MMBN6 Missable Reward that Softlocks Your Game | MegaMan Battle Network Legacy Collection
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2024
- What if I told you there was a softlock in the MegaMan Battle Network Legacy Collection that was caused by giving us exactly what we wanted? And, while it doesn’t prevent you from completing the story, it does stop you from finishing the post-game. At the time of recording, it hasn’t been patched out. But in the meantime, this video will guide you through everything you need to know about this glitch.
********IMPORTANT UPDATE: The Django3 Softlock has been patched!***************
However, it's important to note that the update will only apply to those who HAVE NOT fought the last Virus Battler yet. Those who already received the rewards (specifically the final one) will still need to connect with another game to fix the softlock.
Those that set their updates to manual will also need to check that this update was applied.
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IMPORTANT UPDATE: The Django3 Softlock has been patched!
However, it's important to note that the update will only apply to those who HAVE NOT fought the last Virus Battler yet. Those who already received the rewards (specifically the final one) will still need to connect with another game to fix the softlock.
Those that set their updates to manual will also need to check that this update was applied.
Full Patch Notes here: www.capcom-games.com/megaman/exe/en-uk/topics/update/
There's also the Anubis chip softlock. A certain Request sidequest requires you to use the program advance Poison Pharaoh, which requires the Anubis chip as a component. However, to get an Anubis chip, you need to enter an endgame area that, also, requires Mega Chip Complete. This includes Protoman SP, which you can only get by fighting the Protoman SP boss, that only unlocks if you complete a certain amount of requests (not all, but most). Problem is, BN6 requests can't be cancelled once started, and you can't have more than 1 request going at a time. So if you start that PA request before you can fight Protoman SP, you're locked out of completing it. In the EN version of the game, this has a solution: the BugFrag Trader. Anubis is one of the possible drops from it, so all you need to do is grind Frags and hope. It's the same in the JP version, but there's one, teeny, tiny issue: the BugFrag trader is *deep* in the endgame area, BEHIND the Mega Complete door. This doesn't happen in the EN version because most of the endgame area was trimmed out, so the BugFrag trader was moved to a more early accessible location.
This lock fortunately doesn't happen in the collection thanks to a patch card that specifically references to be used in case this happens. It gives you all of the Protoman chips.
What are the chips needed to initiate that P.A
@@Yusei255 2 Poison Seeds and 1 Anubis. You can get the Poison Seeds from a BugFrag Shop in Sky Area, but the Anubis is deep in the endgame like I said.
@@Ningflingslinger The chip code for poison seed you need is P. Anubis's chip code was changed to P in BN6.
@@tylermercado1445 Yeah, BugFrag Shop sells Poison Seed P. You can even buy the other from the Chip Order system after that and save the BugFrags for something else.
As someone who went straight for BN6 so I can attempt to actually complete the postgame this time, very glad I stumbled upon your video. Saved me a big headache later
Good thing I started with one, now if I can reach six before forgetting this.
3:10 WindRack is a staple in competitive folders, so those who ate trying to climb the ranked ladder might need it.
I'd prefer to climb the ranked ladder of BN2 using the P.A that consists of.
Wnd*
Fan*
Gateman G for an instant delete.
BN5 and onwards the Online is nothing more then a dark chip infested Shitstorm of a mess.
Bn6 is actually the only battle network game the community deems as competitively viable bn5 and below are the "shitstorm of a mess" youre referring too
- Chains Life aura 2
- Geaddon3
- poison paraoh
@@HyperLucid MMBN3: *_laughs in FolderBack_*
@@WackoMcGoosethat’s a good one 😂
This information was very well documented but I must make a correction.
The Boktai content wasn't cut from BN6 just due to the game not coming out in the US. It was cut because the English script was vastly larger than the Japanese and the old GBA cart simply could not fit the extra areas in the game. BN6 itself was already pushing it just for the Japanese release, and the much larger English script absolutely pushed it over the edge. The Boktai thing was just the reason why that in particular was cut. Something had to be cut, so it was the Boktai content as it was deemed unnecessary.
That's the myth, at least.
Considering that later the community was able to restore the cut content and make it into an English ROM, I'm not sure if I believe into it
@@RadiativeChester ROM files for emulation can be much larger than the actual storage capacity of an old GBA cartridge, and even flashing them onto modern GBA flash carts doesn't exactly show the truth since those can be made with much higher storage limits as well. The average capacity of GBA carts was 32 megabytes at the time (64 for the video carts like those old GBA carts you'd watch cartoon episodes recorded on, guessing they had a different model for those carts cuz only needed video playback and not much interaction on buttons)
@@Zolanark point taken. I believe the modified ROM does fit a 16MB cartridge like the original BN6 but recent compression methods are much better compared to that time
10/10 Recreation - groundbreaking and inspiring! Thanks for the heads up :)
If you’re softlocked and need a partner to trade/compare, feel free to use this comment section as a trade board. Name your console (Switch, PS4/5, Steam) in your post to find a partner faster. Let’s help each other out
@@pokelogikx the problem is finding matches online is pretty hard, cuz most players are still grinding PvE. We’ll have to wait for now and hopefully an update rolls out soon that has a fix for this issue
Plus a lot of players are playing each game in order so it will be a while before players reach 6
@@111IronSyde what’s the discord
Can i buy every chip from Tab if i compared libraries with someone who got every chip in the game?
Actually it doesn't soft lock you.
Change the language to JP from the main menu, then clear the battle again, you'll get Django3 instead if suoer Vulcan.
Highly recommend playing the first three encounters in English then the last two in Japanese.
which language is japanese? I could mistake for Chinese or Korean. I'm on steam.
@@raulrojas9253 日本語
I hope I remember this when I finish 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, and get to the end of 6. lmfao
thank you king I remember seeing a forum post about this the other day, trading was the suggestion and it was wholesome. Thank you for spreading the word
4, 4, 4 lol
You made my day
Man, thanks for the heads up on this. I'm glad there are a few easy solutions even if it's too late, but very good to know in advance!
Thank you for this, I’m definitely nowhere near even touching BN6 right now but this will definitely stick in my mind for later.
Well, they fixed this! They are either listening or have dedicated people working on the updates.
THANK YOU! I was planning on playing the MNBN series for the first time with no guides or any prior knowledge, but UA-cam recommended this vid and boy am I glad I haven't started yet. And thanks for minimal spoilers!
You're welcome! Hope you enjoy the MMBN series, it's amazing how much it still holds up 20 years later!
Much appreciated!! So cool to see the cut content restored
dang, this collection was almost perfect.
Compared to how lazy the X collections were put together, I’m so happy overall
@@hubhikarilives Putting in X3(SNES NA) is not lazy.
Giving us Double Team DM instead of the GBA versions would've made it perfect.
Same with Operation Shooting Star instead of base BN1.
I'm so glad I decided to play this in chronological order. Thanks!
RIP. I was so confused when I spent HOURS getting the damn rare viruses, winning against all 5 virus battles, AND GETTING A VULCAN...really bummed that I cannot get the Django SP chip which means I cannot finish the damn "self research" side quest either. Hopefully it gets fixed!
Wish I knew this before I played through 6. Was so excited to play through I flew through and didn’t noticed that it was a softlocked and locked out my first play through. It really sucks trying to ask someone to share chip data with me. No one really wants to
I completed the virus battler in Japanese just to get the gun del sol so that I can complete the mega chips library to get to the graveyard area to get the poison pharaoh chip to finish the jobs. Funny enough, right after I got all the chips, I shared my library to help others out and I got matched with 2 people who also had 100% of the chips lol
Can you help me compare
@@kei3330 yeah are you on switch?
@@markr7083 im on ps4 😭
As someone who has played both versions of BN6, EN and JP, they really do feel like different games to a certain degree.
For dudes with extremely high luck, you can also get Django V3 in a yellow mistery data from the underground maps...
I thought about mentioning the yellow mystery data, but couldn't confirm its location. Thank you! But yeah, the odds of finding it and getting Django3 are lower than finding a full-odds Shiny Pokemon in Emerald. Extreme luck is needed for sure
I completely steamrolled through Network 6 to get into PVP. Great...
Luckily, playing PVP will give you Crosspoints to fuel the Boktai Trader. You'll just have to go without a few chips for a while (unless you trade)
Very useful info! I just finished the first game and had no idea this even existed.
Oh wow, that's interesting and I hope they fix it. I really do. Then again Capcom doesn't use to fix issues with collections though
Sent in a ticket to Capcom USA and finally got the following response:
...
Hello,
Thank you for contacting CAPCOM USA Customer Support. We have confirmed an issue wherein the Django 3 chip cannot be earned when playing the game in languages other than Japanese. We apologize for the inconvenience caused by the issue. Please note that we are planning to address this issue in a future update.
Best Regards,
CAPCOM USA Customer Support
Are they actually doing anything? Who knows? But I did my part!
django 3 can be acquired from the crossover chip trader, and it's a rare drop, so ye big pain
Having never played BN6, this sure will be helpful! Thanks.
GREAT VIDEO!
Glad I saw this before getting anywhere near the BN6 postgame
Calling this a Softlock is a bit inaccurate because a Solflock can generally be fixed by Resetting or Rebooting a game or Console. I would have called this a bricked or corrupted save.
Not really. A softlock is just what the name implies - a situation or circumstance in which the game is technically playable, but you cannot make any progress, be it immediately or after x point in the future.
In this case, you're effectively locked out of the postgame content because you need Django 3 in your library for that, meaning that unless you find it, your progress is stumped even though you can actually play like normal. I.e. a bonafide softlock.
Corrupted saves aren't nearly comparable, because you can't even _play_ those in the first place.
I decided to start the Legacy Collection from the start of the series all over again so I haven't gotten back to 6 yet, but I definitely would have fallen for this. It may be side-content, but I have videos on my channel that are over a decade old of me completing each of the Virus Machine challenges, and I most certainly would have done it again when I got back to it. I do find it interesting how oversights like this can lead to unintended consequences down the line, but at least there's a workaround for it. Hopefully it does get patched before more people fall victim to it.
Is it even possible to patch a GBA or DS game?
@@doopness785 Not really back then, but it's possible now. This wasn't an issue that existed in the original version of BN6, it's only in the Legacy Collection which is on modern consoles, so it should be easy for Capcom to update it.
I wonder why this issue is only present in the collection versions.
@@doopness785 To sum it up, the English version of Battle Network 6 had certain things changed from the Japanese version, one of which being the rewards from a minigame. The Legacy Collection uses the Japanese version of the game as a base, but will still give the rewards that were changed in the English version. This leads to a situation where a certain battle chip becomes impossible to obtain without trading with another player. This was likely an oversight by the developers who wanted to include content that was removed from the GBA versions, but forgot about what was changed to accommodate it.
I'm glad I knew of the Django softlock, I partially softlocked myself from quests by doing the Self Research quest. Spent 4 something hours getting all mega chips and then collection virus' for the battler. Once Django was last I smiled and said "Not today, Satan"
Good thing I’m on BN2, doing the whole beat the story first and then 100% the same game before moving to the next one rather than speedrun each series’ story making it to BN6 and possibly miss this. Thanks for the heads up 👍
Thanks for the heads up, very much appreciated. Hopefully Capcom is aware and fixes this issue soon!
Have only reached game 5, playing team colonel, but this info is nuts
Unrelated we need a Boktai Legacy collection. Or maybe a Taiyou Collection
I would love that
How'd they handle the sunlight stuff?
@@ZenoDLCthey could do what the reproduction carts and roms do and use a button combo to raise and lower the Sunlight.
@@ZenoDLC good question. Maybe just do it by syncing with the weather in the area.
Thank you so much, I started playing 6 as the first game in the collection to get my save file up to date for online battles and seeing this video I will keep this stuck to my head when I reach the post game
I had the misfortune of "softlocking" myself. Thankfully I managed to get it with the crossover points I had from pvp
Add me please so we can get cross over points together
Ps4 / Riku_Majesty
will forever be mad that boktai 3 never made it to the states
While less then ideal, you CAN start up the other version of BN6 and get the chip that way if you really have no one else to trade with. Yeah you won't be able to finish it in the first version, but at least you can finish it in one of them for achivements.
Got caught by this too. Luckly there's been a few kind folks around the various Twitch streams willing to lend a hand.
Hi, earlier you sent me a reply that you are willing to help me but for some reason can't see your actual post, so I'm answering here. Yes I would very much appreciate it your help!
Great video man I’m impressed
Also sidenote chip trader does indeed give chips not listed in your library from the undernet I believe. Even special chips
Nice vid. I never played BN6. Time to find out
Switch version here. Really wish I'd found this earlier. Django 3 is the only mega chip I'm missing. Any trade help would be greatly appreciated. I've been just a bit soured (not a lot, but still a bit) by the fact that I won't be able to complete my mega folder, and thus my desired build (due to the Graveyard 2 door lock), because of this.
GOAT status, thank you!
Very important video. Hopefully this can get patched.
This was actually a good heads up for me.
I got soft locked day 1 going through the BBS requests to get all HP and Reg ups then had to hunt every freaking standard and mega chip. Almost completed the virus battler in English and would have been stuck further. Such a stupid thing to not fix this or warn the player not to use the patch card until completing the standard and mega library. All they had to do was give Anubis P as part of the Chaud patch card.
Can you also cover the soft lock with event quests?
There is an event quest where somone needs to see the poison pharaoh program advance, but the only poison seed battle chip is behind the same aforementioned megachip door.
The problem? Protomans version number is dependent on basegame sidequest completion. Since you can't cancel a request, you need to get lucky with the 10 chip trader for protoman EX and lucky with graveyard area gold mystery data or trading for Protoman SP.
This happened to me in a run in the complete patch version of the GBA game.
There's a Patch Card to get all the ProtoMan chips. It even recommends you to do this before you do the quest
I plan to cover it as well. I want to play through BN6 again to verify another quirk that I heard about before I do. In the meantime, yep, the Patch Card for the event quest tells you how to prevent that softlock
@@gaiaphoenixmedia oh wow! I was unaware of that patch card! Glad it's included
So switch to JP for this side quest . Weird the rewards change just by switching languages.
Nice i watched this after soft locking myself and have no one to compare files with😭😭
Same im trapped
If anyone has django 3 and can help us that would be much appreciated. I am on ps4 gregar
If any of y’all are on steam I pulled it from the boktai point trader
@@credorn4590 I would need this i also have steam. Any chance you could help me?
I have seen a PVP build that uses both +500HP (green) parts, so maybe grabbing the only 2nd copy of that is good idea.
There's a glitch where Lan apears in cyberworld idk how but it happened to me in MMBN 4. I'm gonna try to figure out how i did it then i'l upload a vid if i ever get it.
Wow, that means you can't get the platinum trophy in MMBN Legacy Vol 2 if you don't switch the language to Japanese before doing the Virus Battles because of this oversight. I hope Capcom puts out a patch for this volume to fix this. :(
Very helpful video!
Nice, thanks bro
There’s also a Patch Card that gives the three Django chips, if I remember right
There’s a Django Patch Card that gives stats and abilities, but unfortunately not one that gives the chips. I wish there was
So I just need to set mmbn6 language to japanese when fighting the 5th virus battler to avoid the softlock?
Supposedly theres also a chance that u cant unlock protoman FZ in english as well
The Anubis Softlock (which locked out Protoman FZ) is addressed in the Legacy Collection, but getting the softlock mentioned in this video would also lock out the Protoman FZ fight
Thanks for this!
Nooo I just updated like 2 days ago & they patched it I was planning on getting 2 Windracks Lol.
If anyone can share me their mega library folder on switch (im on the switch), i would be very thankful. Im stuck with the Anubis request that i accepted blindly.
Wait, so you can get the first English reward, then switch to get the rest of them? Cause I'm going to be honest, AirSpin1 isn't a great reward and I seem to remember them needing to be beat in order anyways.
Flawless recreation XD
To be fair with a few ways to get around it it isnt entirely a softlock until the service goes down.
Doesn't the Otenko Crossover Point trader give a chance to get Django 3?
Thanks for the warning!
There is a soft lock in the English fan translation of the jp gba game too. It’s really annoying
2:06 to skip the fluff
There was an update that states in the notes to "fix getting a different reward for beating this in japanese, english, or chinese" does that mean we're locked out of the unique reward for good?
It fixed the issue mentioned in this video. We'll get the correct reward now as long as our devices (Switch / PS / Steam) have the update loaded. The only reasons the update wouldn't be applied is if players set their updates to manual or if they already received the "wrong" rewards before the update
@gaiaphoenixmedia shit. So essentially its impossible to get the exclusive japanese reward now?
Nope, exact opposite. The rewards are now set to the Japanese rewards in all languages of the Legacy Collection, effectively fixing the glitch
@@gaiaphoenixmedia oh thats rad! Thanks for the speedy responses
Good to know, thanks!
Play One Step from Eden
How about the Z-saber chip in Megaman EXE 4, is it available??
Yep, via a Patch Card and via Number Trader with the code: 72794137
Aww man there was a Boktai 3!?!
Well shame baktai 3 never made it to states, i loved the second game
No Django3 for me... 😢 Can anyone help me out? I have steam. ❤
Someone has never went to the Central Chip Trader and went to the bottom of the list the vary first time he's available. I see why the dislikes are hidden now lol.
Can I switch back and forth for the different fights? For example can I switch to English for the one fight to get a second windrack then switch back to Japanese for Django?
Yes. You can change between the languages as you deem fit. All you need to do is be on Japanese while you're doing the gold MrProg battle to get Django3 and avoid the softlock. If you don't care about the other Japanese rewards you can just do them all on English.
Shoulda clarified quickly that this is for mmbn6 but neat video
Added it to the title
Do you have to avoid the entire quest, or only the one battle that drops Django3?
Can't get online due to playing on Switch and refusing to pay for Nintendo's online services. I already used the free trial, so online is not possible. Local is not possible either because I don't know anyone else who owns a Switch. This has not been patched over 2 months later. I refuse to believe that this bug would take multiple months to fix, so my impression is that Capcom just isn't going to fix it. With how quickly this game sold out, this should be a priority for Capcom, but clearly, it isn't.
What if you purchase the chip from Tab would you be okay then?
It's not the same chip. There's Django1, Django2 and Django3 in BN6. The 3rd one can only be obtained via Virus Battle and from the crossover trader.
@@elquiltro92 okie cool thank you very much wasnt sure exactly
@@elquiltro92 and if you compare library's with someone else that has it you can use the chip orderer.
is there also a protoman FZ softlock? i only heard rumors about it, but I'm not taking any chances.
Technically yes, but it’s been addressed in the Legacy Collection. The JP GBA games had something called the Anubis Softlock that prevented you from completing a Help Quest needed to unlock Protoman FZ. The Patch Card that adds the quest to the Legacy Collection explicitly tells you how to fix it.
But ironically, that softlock affects the same door as the softlock mentioned in this video. So basically, this softlock would also prevent you from finishing the quest (And, I just realized, would stop you from getting a total of 6 title marks instead of 4 - 5 of which are needed to fight the SP final boss). If the softlock mentioned in the video is avoided, then you’ll also avoid the Protoman FZ Anubis Softlock
There’s also a quirk with EN Legacy Collection that stops Protoman from becoming Protoman SP, since the unlock requirements are different in the EN and JP versions. People are still researching it but the fix for that is to complete the 25 default help quests and switch the language to Japanese, then interact with the help quest desk again
@@gaiaphoenixmedia what are the 6 title marks.
plus don't you need to also beat all bosses with an S rank to unlock Hub style.
forget which BN game that was.
Is there any reason you SHOULD get the double english reward instead of a jp reward? (obviously not including django)
EDIT: Oh wow you even took the initiative to pre-emptively answer this question, YOU ROCK!
Underground can be exploited from the bugfrag trader as well dis that before too
I haven’t found evidence that the Django series is obtainable from the BugFrag Trader, but that may be possible for players without online access. Sadly, even if it is, the chances are statistically low that Django3 will drop from it since its list has most of the chips in the game. For players with online access, Boktai Trader and multiplayer trading/comparing are much faster
@@gaiaphoenixmedia you can also get Django from the crossover machine where you spend the coins obtained from winning ranked battles.
Odds are a little low.
trading would probably be the way to go since there is a discord bot made that will give any chip or program you want
Didn’t they actually add a Patch Card to give you a Django3 chip? I swear I remember hearing that.
At the moment, there's no Patch Card that gives Django's battle chips. There is a Django Patch Card, but it gives abilities (while it's equipped) instead of items
@@gaiaphoenixmedia I don’t have the game to confirm but I did hear something about some way to get it in the US version without switching to the JP version or getting access to a library with it… but I can’t confirm without the game.
Anyone have django3 that wants to do a library comparison I’m on switch
I do, on switch. Let me know when your ready.
Hello! Can anyone help me out with Anubis P? I’m soft locked unfortunately.. I’m on Steam, available almost anytime really but I am PST time zone. Please any help is appreciated!
Thank you for the video
Stupid question but... do you have to have the game in japanese from the moment you get the card until you get the final reward or JUST during the fights?
Honestly that's a good question. I recommend saving in front of the Virus Battler Mr. Progs and changing the language before taking each challenge and keeping it in Japanese until the reward is given. The actual reward is tied to the text itself, but it's a good idea to do it beforehand so you don't accidentally forget
Aside from playing online, and the crossover points, is there any other way to get Django 3 in English? Or do I have to switch to Japanese just to make sure I get it?
if you play alone only wink wink just that way is possibly
Thank you!
im also lil confused so we switch lang to avoid getting that Django3 card for the last reward and get supr vulc instead
You switch language [to japanese] to avoid getting SuprVulc, and get Django 3 instead.
@@TWLSpark ya i saw diff vid i figured it out thanks
Sick video man, glad to know this b4 hand, but while we are here does anyone know what megachips i need to open the graveyard door? I can't really seem to find a good guide online. Thx in advance
All Mega Chips are needed to open it. You can get them through fighting bosses, but Django and Roll’s chips are found elsewhere since they’re not fightable
@Gaia Phoenix Media gotcha bro boss grind starts now
So do you have to switch languages starting with the first virus buster side quest or or switch languages just at the fifth side quest?
The fifth Virus Battler challenge is the only one that softlocks the game if you get the wrong reward. The others give an unintended reward if you play the English version, but it won't halt progress
@@gaiaphoenixmedia Right, so save before the fifth challenge, change the language to Japanese, challenge it and change back after claiming the reward. Got it.
Can you do this on the switch because I’m pretty sure you can’t change languages on Switch version….
Yep, it's in the settings before you boot up each game
Ok but what game does this track play in and when specifically. I think it’s a Bass theme or something in some off shoot game
RockMan.Exe 4.5 Boss Theme. It was a JP only release and wasn’t part of the collection since its gameplay is completely different
Thank you
Still doesn't make sense when is that battle int he game?
The side quest can begin as early as Chapter 3, but the fifth battle in the side quest isn't accessible until close to the end of the story. You can start it by talking to a Navi in Class 1-2's computer (I believe it's the blackboard)
I just need to unlock Django3 for my mega library. Anyone willing to compare?