ENTP Subtypes (Wildcard/Loose screw/Troublemaker/Tactician)
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2019
- Let me know if this ENTP subtype video makes sense to you and which of these ENTP subtypes you relate to the most!
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True Entps read this comment while watching the video.
Youandi Hoefman haha yaass 🙌
How did you know
.....does everyone not do that? Weird...
Lol
Lol
1:52 Extroverted Troublemaker
3:00 Perceiving Wildcard
5:43 Intutive Loose screw
8:58 Thinking Tactician
Thanks you just made my life four times easier
@@squarrot9355 uP
I love you!
I think an entp can be all different types you described depending on maturity and development. entps are all about ethics not morals. Thank you Erik.
Screw morals
I thought the same thing. I see all of different subtypes pop through from time to time, but the intuitive/perceiving subtypes set the rules. I learned long ago to reel in the carefree, careless extravert because he always got physically hurt and made crazy risks. The thinking subtype will come out occasionally if someone is abusing or taking advantage of another person or misleading others. He will find six ways from Sunday to put that person or persons in their place and is the antihero. My intuitive and perceiving functions play very well with each other and both of Erik's descriptions describe me fairly well. When I'm around people the intuitive function is predominant, while when I'm alone and brainstorming I use a lot of my perceiving function.
In a perfect world I could get so much done if I had a team of people from other the other types working with me. Someone to keep me on track, someone to implement the endless ideas, someone to ....
Whats the exact difference between ethics and morals? (English aint my native language LMAO)
@@squarrot9355 screw arbitrary rules and morals
@@rorschachsjournal2084 YEA
These aren't really subtypes, rather moods (in the short term) and phases (in the lomg term)! I'm all of those, more or less, at different moments or in response to different situations
ENTPs and ESTPs both have an extremely low boredom threshold, I'm pretty sure that these are just moods and phases for you both...
Yeah, you just like to bounce around like balls of energy, nothing is ever going to be stagnant and static around the EPs.
Watch at 11:08
I mean sure, that's why it's declared in the beginning that every ENTP is similar, but have differences. Think of this like when learning the functions, you see yourself a little in all of them, but which one's do you lead with and actually utilize?
These definitely are temperaments for sure, but which is your dominant? I understand all 4, and see myself there many times, but it's only bits and pieces as opposed to the one that truly spoke to me as though it's my day to day.
Yeah 100- entp
Entp here. Spot on. Especially with the sleeping. My wife always ask why I'm up I said I can sleep when I'm dead right now I need answers.
So much. Another entp, and fr, who needs to sleep? I mean 4/5h per night is good, I have more things to do, even if it's only seat and think. Right?
Pressing like at 3am
@@CatGee lol sleep tight
I’m an ENTP with social anxiety and man is it a weird interaction with the personality type
Ditto here but it causes me a lot of problems when I am around ignorant cruel ppl
When you are strong on P and an S types get mad at you: "You know I can't actually read your mind right?"
From like an adult ENTP, Ive always been kind of frustrated by the thought of starting so many things but never having anything to show for it. Im almost jealous of ENTJs that way.
Same
Me too
@@micohabit workhorse
Yep, this is all 100 percent me. Exuberant, constantly switching between obscure hobbies, frustrated with social rituals to the point where I feel like a sociopath who doesn't care about grandma, and consistently making intuitive leaps so I can get to the next thing.
57 year old enfp female, 8 year old granddaughter, we are peas and carrots. She is a loose screw, she is a little rude, very imaginative, very intelligent. Her dad is nuts! He is estj, her mom is my daughter, infp. They are oppisites and she is caught in the middle. I see her struggles with these two parents. I am a soft place she lands! So, go see grandma!😂😂😂
so true, one type is going to have differences even if you're the same MBTI type
“I know I’m an ENTP, but these all kind of sound like me... 9mins.... Oh... there I am.” I’ve never heard this subtype breakdown before but you nailed it. Thank you for all the great videos!
as another ENTP i'd be scared of you irl
Yup I also was thinking at first being more close-minded like if something does not apply= everything else of that "subtype" does not apply, cos I was alr zoning out
N than I rewinded n found somethings he said relatable
I find being the loose screw the most relatable
I'm glad I've finally found a type that matches everything lool! I feel like I've been all 4 of them at some point in my life. I'm working on taming "loose screw" at the moment, but I think that, as you gain maturity, you become a more balanced individual and you can work well with all 4 subtypes without having to deal with all the weaknesses of each.
I guess I’m the perceiving type. I’m very good at reading people. I have so many backup plans. I type people all the time and get it right. I’m VERY wise and come up with my most wise ideas during debates not before or after. I also am ridiculously messy and disorganized. I’m very irresponsible and absent minded. Procrastinating is my strength.
Edit: I suppose I am kinda the intuitive type too, I'm just DEFINITELY not the extroverted type. I am WAYYYY to hesitant, cautious, and in my head. My Enneagram is 5w6 so I would say I'm an ENTP that is almost INTP. The thing is that I like people, I get lonely easily, and I actually feel really energized from social get togethers and parties. I'm just the guy on the edges of the party talking to all of the introverts/ambiverts that are hopefully also intuitive. I rarely become the center of the party unless it is clear that no one else will do it. I will become the entertainment if no one else wants to be the entertainment.
I'm intuitive corkscrew. I don't even live on earth in the present moment. Im not even future or past oriented. I literally live in my head in learning land.
Bro you're not wise if you go around talking about how wise you are (no offense)
@@aidanokeeffe7928 That is the paradox. Can anyone claim humility if it is prideful to do so? The only person who has a right to say they are humble can't even really say it without being judged as being prideful. We all know the joke, "I am SOOO humble, I am more humble than anyone else here" haha. IDK if you are religious, but that is one thing Jesus did. He declared that he was the Messiah in Luke 4...basically calling himself God despite the fact that he was clearly and visually a man.
You are probably right, I'm probably a lot less wise than I think. However, I would not say that just because someone says they are wise means that they are not wise. Although someone is declaring "I am the most humble person in the world"...which is (in a sense) what Jesus declared, seems to be a very prideful sentence; That doesn't change the fact that it is still true.
Your argument for me NOT being wise: "you are not wise if you claim to be wise" is a fallacy of self-referential inconsistency/Incoherence. If I declare that I am wise than there is no way I could be wise. However, this is not true. The problem is that I can't say you are wrong because you are using a fallacy. That would also be a fallacy. That would be an example of a fallacy fallacy. haha sounds fake, but it is real.
anyway...I like to think that I am wise, but that might be totally wrong. One thing is for sure...I'm not humble. haha
Spot on the thinking type. I barely remember that I have a family, I think its a subconscious defense so I don't become disappointed with them. I rarely play the social game, but when I do go for flawless victory. The elation I feel from being on top is exhilarating! During my development I learned to take everyone's feelings into consideration but my true motivation for that is that I don't shoot myself in the foot later. Basically apply a little brakes on the douchebaggery and be patient.
"This type can be interested in how seahorses mate." As soon as that was said I paused the video and quickly looked it up, curiosity taking over me and that's how I realized I was the intuitive type lmao. But bruh spot on. I want to understand everything which is pretty overwhelming I must say and it makes me really frustrated as well because I obviously can't do so many things at once even though I desperately want to agh. Also while I'm more dominant intuitively, I relate with all the other subtypes at certain levels too, especially the perceiving wild card.
it's intresting watching The switch between sub-parts/perspectives and some of the small micro expressions that go with it.
I always wondered why I had so many sleepless nights ahaha. So hard to just turn off my brain. Trying to the think about sleepy things and than my brain goes in 5 Different directions 😂usually just fall asleep but overthinkin my brain and just passing out
I’m such an entp. It’s so fun to hear it from someone else’s POV
Great video. And I like how you say yump rather than jump
You get us very very well Eric! I'm surprised! Thank you so much about that! :=) I'm a female ENTP with quite of a strong FE but also my NE has been going literally craazy lately that it even makes me tired. 😅 I'm so super curious about everything and I come up with at least 5 different ideas to do, I m do confused, lol, I want to do everything and as fast as possible. I have 0 patience, and I Can't stand people who talk slowly so thank you so much for being fast and full of content!
so spot on with the perceiving wildcard description
Oh jeeez I see traits in me of literally everything you said! Lol. It's like someone knows me so well. But most of all I definitely think I'm the intuitive type. I'm do curious about everything, life is full of possibilities, I wanna go places, meet people from all kinds of breeds, my head is so so full of ideas but I'm insanely chaotic and not organised. My Si is indeed very blind and I hate routines and practical stuff and details, they are so boring and many times a waste of time because the world is so interesting to waste time with chores.
The thing I least correlated with was not being able to sleep because of planning things. If I plan it is in such a long term that it doesn't sound like a plan but a path, direction. However I cannot sleep because I always think about abstract things from the meaning of life to how a fork originated.
My brother is an ENTP and I’m ENFP. It’s funny how we’re both so similar and yet so different in so many ways. What I notice is that we get along very well but the people we get along with are very different. My older sisters an ESFP and they hate each other’s guts while I love her. Funny how that happens.
That was interesting. Thank you!:)
Wildcard mostly :), but I also relate to the intuitive. Not so much to the other two, which actually makes sense if I think about the percentages on my mbti test results: N is extreme, P is obvious. T and E are just above 50% usually
Same :) N is 90%, P is also 77%, E is around 65% and T is as low as 54%
Thank you! I needed this! (Wow I've never been first before)
We recignized many points in our life, and had a discussion with a friend over this video as a newly discovering MBTI INTP friend, Taking them On the CPT journey already as well, and hopefully will be Taking the Transendential cognitive function route. I/We have found it to be exceptionally fun to be able to switch into a new personality framework
“Development and type”, key idea, it all depends, cannot choose just one type, good thinking Eric
I'm an ENTP thinking subtype. It was strange because I fit as ENTP, also the tests demonstrate it, but I get to finish things with extreme willpower, it's difficult for me because I'm ENTP hahaha, but finally I do, even getting the necessary help from the correct persons. Also I'm very logical since I can remember (2 years old) but still very dreamy, as I'm primarily an ENTP haha. So now I understand why, thank you. (Sorry my English, I'm Spanish)
Cool, I liked this video very easy to understand and relate to (or not). While none of these resonated completely out of the four I'm firmly in the loose screw subcategory, so much so the others might as well have been different types altogether, so maybe it's interesting to say a little bit about that from my own experiences.
The troublemaker - "not seeing and owing up to mistakes", that seems completely foreign to me. I always do, I always want to analyse it and I'm usually the first one to spot it, and a bit embarrassed when I'm not.
The wildcard - "they might say X and then they don't". There's a truth to that but that's more a matter of circumstance then a choice. When I (ultimately) decide to X with someone else that's a very firm X and reality really has to make an effort to change that. If I am undecided I am as such beforehand.
The Tactician - "having no regards for others", that is just wild to me and sounds like an immature intp who hasn't developed their third function at all. Which is sad indeed, listening to your Fe is the prime means with which an entp will gove meaning to their life. Someone else said something on this point that really stuck with me, "if you don't know what to do go find someone to do something for".
And then the Loose screw - curiosity definitely rules my world and you described it perfectly. Yet there's this one thing you said ... "They cut corners". While it's true I might drop something (or put it on the backburner) even quicker then I got interested in it, when I'm in it I'm in it. "Can't you do something for 80%" a friend of mine asked a while back and he even posited that as a challenge. But no, and I can't imagine doing anything I'm invested in while (consciously) cutting corners. Though I guess it's hard to tell when you are creating something neat or MacGyvering a monstrosity wjen your skills aren't up for the job..... Ok maybe I cut corners .... Most probably .... But only because I'm usually most invested in things I am learning at the same time and within the confines of that process I'm giving it my all. So I wouldn't say we cut corners but are a bit oblivious to our shortcommings.... Which is actually something I talk about at work a lot, we need to guard eachothers blind spots ... Which I guess is hard for others to do when an entp is satisfying their curiosity, so we probably end up cutting corners without knowing let alone intending it.
This was a cool video and as I was typing I started thinking about the things you said a bit differently. Nicely done 😊
Perceiving Wildcard for sure :p
Today I was observing a kid at the bakery and noticed he had placed his phone on the counter. I was worried he might forget it there. I got distracted for a while and next thing I notice - the boy is gone but the phone is still on the counter. Thankfully he realised it in no time and came running back in to get his phone.
Seahorse mating is unbelievably cool.
Well, I feel like I made of pieces now. T and N, I am pretty thankful for Universe I have T - the only reason I have done anything at all I planned.
I have been all four at various points in life. Mostly tactician in recent years
Loose screw sounds like me
Im loose screw then 😉
good description!
(but I finished!!!! six full and long educations, each took years, one six, another seven, the shortest still one year.)
Chris D. Cheers to you-- i related to all them but the N most. It feels like a curse sometimes to be so self-aware that its hard to categorize yourself bc our Si stores can be so full of info that can prove pretty much any example of a contrarian sentiment. Aka one second we think "i am this" then three seconds later "but wait i also am this bc of that time..."
Derek Townsley true :-))) but Id say my Si is rather empty and with no Fi theres not much identity but then lots of NeFe flexibility etc etc and then Ni ignoring, then you can think you can be anything.
I can definitely identify with the wild card and loose screw entp the most. I’m honestly really struggling. I can’t decide what to do with my life. I’m scared for my future and my family depends on me supporting them but I never find any job fulfilling for more than a few months, then it become the most irritating, redundant, repetitive crap that I dread waking up to every morning. Also paperwork is nauseating and I’d rather hang myself for one minute at a time until someone finds me and I have to explain that I’m hanging myself in protest to paperwork.
U might try taking a vocational aptitude test like strong interest inventory and then discuss w a career counselor. If u have college degree and live near your alma mater they usually have this help free to alum. Also I would suggest u look up o*net website. Learn how to use it bec it’s very very powerful and then once u have better idea of your best used attributes, cross reference those in onet It may surprise u to find other occupations that may align better or at least align w things u r most interested in
I'm the intuitive entp, don't worry I've learnt what i haven't learnt and i know what yet to expect from what i don't know about what i haven't learnt.
Also intuitive ENTP here, hi :) and as I was reading this, trying to figure it out analyze it my brain was hurting. As a good ENTP I haven't given up on it though, it's difficult to fully grasp so that makes it interesting! You mind teaser 😜 lol
I think I'm a loose screw. LMAOOOO as soon as I saw that was one of the options, I was like - yeah. That's me.
Everybody writes about "I am like this", "I am the epidemy of that" or the absolute classic "We ENTPs are" but nobody is asking:
How does an ENTP with strong fe looks like, how someone with developed si?
Moments like that let me struggling with the idea that most of the cyber ENTPs are not fake or wrong typed. To many blind believing, to little healthy questioning.
I definitely fall more under Thinking and Wildcard and I use alot of the wildcard stuff to help the thinking stuff. Some of your examples were dead on right as I work in sales and am definitely more on the selfish side but I'd like to point out that it's not that I "can't see or take responsibility" for my gains that take away from others because I definitely am aware of the fact of it when it happens and I process it with a level of guilt. I definitely choose to keep doing it and I'm not going to try and explain it in a way that still makes me a good person, but rather I just wanted to point out that we do know what we're doing and do feel some guilt for it... just not enough guilt to stop
Mmm I love you. Knowledge is power. You get that.
Regards,
An intuitive ENTP
We’re all the four but I think there is some more than others. For me it’s like : extroverted troublemaker 1, thinking tactician and perceiving wildcard 2 and intuitive loose screw at the end
Yeah me and my friend are ENTP’s who are very similar but also very different in how we view life
I feel as though I'm all 3 (excluding Wildcard) by different amounts and in different situations. Sometimes when I was watching I was just confused about it all. I can work on projects deep into the night for weeks, then abandon it without fully testing it. However, I'm not the sales type at all, I despise those types.
I've bounced between all of them.. I remember having full years of being a tactician then a complete loose screw. Im still loose screw lol
Seems I can fall into every subtype to a degree and maybe especially the intuitive and thinking one...
I’ve decided I’m an intuitive loose screw But I really want to do the things
i relied on my Ti so much when i was in my teenage years, because i was so uncomfortable with the way people percieved my more eccentric and wild behaviors, to the point i thought i was an intp fot the longest time. it was quite a miserable time, i was very uncomfortable with the way i interacted with people and how my desire for change was unfulfilled. i assume it came from my developing Fe wanting to fit in and the general discomfort of going through puberty. now i resemble my childhood self much more, i learned how to stop caring about other people's feelings when they interfere with my own sense of self
I think it's more likely that there is one or two of these subtypes that ENTPs will not identify with, than than them identifying with one over the others that's how I feel
The 5 people that disliked for some reason: 🤡🤡🤡🤡
i think i am half tactician and half loose screw. that makes me lunatic tactician or tactical madman.
I feel like im a combination of all of these types 🤣🤣 , its really hard to think of one subtype.
i’m definitely the wildcard and loose screw
Same lol
Spiralling out...lol- perciever 1 step a head true wildcard+ loose screw curious🖐
I am definitely a wildcard, you will never know what im about to do, and to be honest i dont know myself, i just get a idea and i stick to it, if it doesnt involve work or study.
Very interesting! Nicely explained. I know an extroverted and perceiving entp.
I have a question.. How did you find you're an infj?
Tactician and wildcard subtypes fit me best, but I can’t pick one of there other, the other two don’t describe me at all.
I'm all subtypes :O I do all those things!
Lmaooo I scored highest in perception and intuition and I’m definitely a wild card with some loose screws. I know a few of the a moral thinking types. I was always so jealous since I can never finish anything. But compromising ones morals to get ahead would mean I couldn’t use morals as a grounds to win arguments on the internet without lying to myself. Lmao
Like- thelastone (tactician) REALLY called me out- LIKE I FEEL BAD SOMETIMES SKIPPING PARTIES AND BEING LIKE "um, i know your emotional(ly vulnerable[?]) but got things to do, sorry-" ADFSGHAJH
So.... when analyzing where I fall on the spectrum for each Myers Briggs parameter, I land at about 90% on the E-N-T-and P poles. When I hear these traits described, I have a strong “Yes! That’s exactly what I am and those traits make me awesome!” response. So much so, that I find it almost hard to imagine somebody being content if they are Introverted, or Sensing, or Feeling [Maybe not those who are Judging, because that would be a really useful trait that might actually help me get something done every once in a while]. Lol
Is it natural for people across all types to have this sort of “of course that’s how people should be” response when viewing their types? I see a lot of pride in the ENTP community for our typing and wanted to know if that is a unique characteristic of this type (Because we’re all cocky little pricks) or if that is something that all types experience?
That's nice if it doesn't go too far (about as much as being aggressively proud of one's nation, or one's gender). I feel similar about my type INTJ, better than all opposite traits, except that INFJ is nicer!
Enfp is the nicer version of us
Agressively passive agressive for the win
Having been around MBTI for 40 yrs I think, in general that NT and NF types find MBTI more interesting whereas SJ and SP find it boring, uninteresting, or r just plain scared bec it describes their taking in of information so accurately. Sensors r a lot more cognizant of detail around them and Ns are much more holistic and global in their thinking.
I would say I don't really want to change because I'm not easily manipulated and I'm entertaining to most people.
I think we ENTPS and INTJS are somewhat more proud of ourselves and unique traits as other types might have been. I have no single idea why but this is my personal observation as I'm getting older I find myself observing people and how they react or feel much more than I did before. I also think INFJs are nicer than we are, I would say they are the most amazing and unique type with strong ideals since they combine the good sides of us ENTPs and INTJs mostly but also with lots of empathy for other people and a developed eq which we are probably lacking a little bit.
I am definitely the thinking tactician:P
Some of what you said was a bit off IMO. Finding out I was an ENTP at 18 has given me a lot over my lifetime. We r extremely ethical unless we were taught otherwise. And believe me we get sick of people. For me it’s the constant stupidity and the total lack of curiousness of so many. The sales example, I think it’s off a bit. I am sure there r those that r guilty of that but really what u stated sounds more like an SP not an NT. We just don’t tolerate idiots well and believe me we have to put up with a lot of jealously, envy, intolerance and outright hate of us. We can’t help that r brains r fast and seek patterns. And u definitely r right about reading people. I can do that at a level that people r amazed at but I find it fairly easy bec ppl give themselves away all the time w their behavior and motivations
I fit all four depending on the day or situation
That's pretty much all of the ENTP's inner personas
I'm all of these combined
I'm probably Wildcard ENTP subtype.
I honestly cannot really 100% relate to any of them.
I like to make subtypes of mbti types with enneagram.
For example there are important differences between ENTP 8w7 and ENTP 3w4 and so on.
mostly Perceiving for sure
Although I can relate to all of them I do feel I’m more of the Wildcard. But I’m wondering if these are all just stages that some might get stuck in.. hmm..
I knew there was a way to categorize people's behavior took some test and here I am feeling stupid
i have been all of these types. i go through phases. but probably my default is perceiving. even dead tired, sick, and limping along i'll still finish a person's sentence for them. i don't know who is more annoyed...me or the person that got rushed along.
Sure AF see myself as a loose screw!
heh!
70% Wildcard 30% Loose screw for me
I’ve got too many projects unfinished 😅
I’m not sure which subs I belong to though...I could jump from intuitions to tactic and to wildcard..Hmm..🤔
I was each type in different moments of my life ☠️😭
Except for extroverted troublemaker I am all three of those.
-Entp
Hm.. so I'm definitely the extraverted ENTP, but for that title, I'm surprisingly introverted, time I spend socializing is time I don't spend working on my projects
Me an entp with God complex watching this like. What can I learn and take advantage of so I can be more persuasive and get more comfortable and benefits from it?
I'm an Introverted ENTP it's weird. (but I like to socialize online)
Im definitely the loose screw type 😂🤭
Im all of those things
_ENTP subtypes:_
NeTi
NeFe
TiSi
FeSi
i hate my personality. none of these sound good. i’ve been all of those
Haha 😭
hah i feel you, im all of the above, im an ENTP-A, at this point i embrace chaos, I am the Mistress of Mayhem. everything is a matter of perspective though, i can see what you mean with the negatives, but i strongly disagree. Enjoy the ride and start working with and not against yourself, and then it might get easier
How do you explain then that I have done the myers test and had ENFP result once and ENTP twice? You really sure there is no overlap. How are you so sure of this? I'm not disagreeing but you but why do people so firmly into categories?
Considering their cognitive functions’ stack as well as temperament... yeah, there pretty damn different
@@SerafRhayn What you mean Seraf ?
@@jimmajamma2006 there are 8 cognitive functions and each type has them in a different order (top 4 being the most relevant). The articles below explains them best.
ENTP: www.psychologyjunkie.com/2018/07/08/entp-personality-profile-an-in-depth-look-at-the-visionary/
ENFP: www.psychologyjunkie.com/2018/04/09/getting-to-know-the-enfp/
is it possible to be more then 1?
From now on call me PNET
i am the 4 of them???
Instantly Googling how does seahorses mate..
I think I'm a loosescrew, any advice on procrastination? lol
I found a book many, many years ago called "How to Gain Control of Your Time and Your Life." It was on time management, and probably could have been written in five pages. it was basically about making to-do lists. Anyway, it was the only self-help book that actually really helped. It clarified my understanding of my own use of time to the point that it became really difficult to procrastinate, because I was so aware of when I was doing it. It also helped me clarify my priorities. You could probably find a used copy for a dollar on Abebooks.
At parties, I like to do this Fe thing with gelatin, it always cracks everyone up.
As an ENTP I don't claim tacticians
I want what you’re on
carl jung
Which are you Erik?
I'm a Entp Enneagram 4, and a Christian.
In my opinion, just because you value something doesn't mean you dis-value its opposite. Just because I selfishly guard my time doesn't mean that I don't 'care' about yours. It simply means that based on the current context (I'm a 'P'), my time has been placed at a higher priority. This will probably still bother the 'F' person. lol
Oh it absolutly will 😂😂
ENTP here as well, and I can't belive I never thought through this logical framework yet 😂
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