Apple's First Phone Sucked
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2019
- Apple made a phone in 2005 and they're probably hoping you've forgotten about it. Let's talk about the Apple phone before the iPhone.
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Talking about presentations, remember when Microsoft had to install chrome because edge wouldn’t launch mid presentation
Lol, I remember that so well!
Link me please?
How to you get the song on iTunes I can’t find it
T Series vs Q Series
Link plz.
Steve was a showman. He makes you want something BEFORE he shows it to you.
R.I.P
I really liked the "goodbye Moto" at the end, was a welcome easter egg:)
Go to Hello, Moto.
Yea especially since every year or so Motorola comes out with something that every local fm station will say "it's going to be as popular as the razr!" but it never is
Hát kár érte, nagyon jó telefonokat csináltak (és csinálnak mai napig is) de az emberek inkább már egy Iphone vagy egy Samsung galaxy felé hajlanak. Amúgy nagyon szeretem a videóidat.
I love how you actually buy these products to test them
He earns the money back
Yeah, a piece of history, like the original X-Box, although that simply added hard drives to consoles - which made console gaming faster and allowed for a lot of hacks - as opposed changing to way everyone in the industrialized world lives, on a minute-by-minute basis.
8=======≠≠≠D 💦
I still get goosebumps from the product launch video from 2007. Wow.
That's actually really sad
I get what you mean, for it’s time it was such a cool phone, that with how Steve announced it plus the nostalgia for the time. Don’t listen to everyone calling you sad for being a tech enthusiast.
Same here. I wish Steve Jobs was still alive to clean up some of mess their current CEO.
Same here
buddy guy not really, not if you are a tech enthusiast, or like iphones, or apple, or presentations style, are interested in jobs, and so like watching this channel.
Basically, if you are normal functioning human, with interests. If you are a hater, or a troll, or just someone dumb enough not to understand human nature, then that would be very sad, indeed.
9:11 You know someone's getting fired 😂😂
I worked at Apple in Ireland back in the day. Our Test Engineer showed me the - then unannounced Rokr at a Pub (didn't get stolen there though). I've noticed pretty much instantly, that the left and right audio channels where mixed up - and if I'm not mistaken, it got never fixed.
The Rokr E1 was essentially a E398 with iTunes connectivity. IIRC you can flash the E1’s firmware to E398 and vice versa.
You could. I mention this in the video. :)
Moto slvr had iTunes. I wanted that phone so bad
There was a RAZR model with it as well.
@@snazzy I actually had a SLVR. You know, it was actually not bad. I thought that this video was going to be about it. I'd never heard of the ROKR. It had a microsd card and you could put music on there without plugging it in to the computer... I still mainly used my iPods though for obvious reasons
I always get a strange feeling in my body whenever I watch a video about the announcement of the original iPhone. As if it's something from another life, something from a story, something made up. The way a 'single' product like that somewhat took over an entire planet is absolutely mind-blowing to me. I didn't get my first iPhone until around 2013 (a used 3GS in white, gifted to me at random), but bought my own iPhone 5. It's amazing to me, how they've been able to produce and advertise a product that is - when we're being honest - so generic, yet feels so personal, and almost like a companion. Hat's off.
Very nice video. Informative, on point, interesting, nicely paced and cut. I've been a fan of the channel for years.
I was one of the early adopters of the original iPhone. At the time I had a Sony Ericsson P900. In a way, it had a similar look to the iPhone with it's candybar-like exterior but what it lacked was a coherent touchscreen. The P900 was more of a PDA and had to use a stylus to really touch anything on screen. It also came with an detachable numpad. At the time I thought the P900 was at the top of the phone game...Until I purchased the first iPhone. My God was that a immense change. The iPhone made the P900 feel clunky and slow and just downright unusable. I don't think I've ever felt such a huge shift in technology until I own the iPhone. Till this day I haven't experienced that feeling.
Very interesting look back in time - thanks for making this!
Oh the palm Treo 650. One of my favorite phones to play on as a kid, my grandma had one (she was a realtor who needed the IR blaster) and I played with it constantly.
I remember those ROKR items from the past. I had the ROKR sunglasses. They were awesome and I wish they still made them.
One of apples devices had a removable battery? WHAT?!
Basically every laptop before 2011 too.
Not really Apple, Motorola phone with Apple software.
Snazzy Labs yeah just surprised they put it on a phone at one point considering they started locking down batteries
@@snazzy except the 1st gen 2008 MacBook Air
I had the ROKR E3, it was a fun phone to have even with its shortcomings. And the lights on the sides were, at the time, awesome 😂
Always enjoy a new snazzy video in my feed.
Thank you!!!
Videos like this are a nice break from all the new tech product videos. I’ve been thinking back through apple’s history post-iPod and how things have changed. It’s pretty fascinating and full of nostalgia.
So... While people think of it as "Unjobsian" to partner with other companies, this is not really true. Jobs liked the Sony Vaio laptops so much that he tried to launch OSX in partnership with Sony. Sony also designed other hardware for Apple (the Powerbook 100 comes to mind, though it was released long enough after Jobs left Apple that I doubt it was a glimmer in anyone's eye at the time). Apple also partnered with Canon, HP, and Xerox to provide print engines for the printers they sold under the apple name.
Apple and sony seem somewhat similar, since they both have great design and build quality.
My mom bought me a Motorola ROKR when I was in 7th grade because I begged her for an iPod and I needed a new phone. She worked at SBC which owned Cingular wireless(now AT&T) so she got it for pretty cheap. I loved that phone. Mine had a little mirror under the camera which made selfies better than ever before. The biggest downside was I'd be in class with my phone in my pocket and since there was no lock on the phone, iTunes would open and it could start playing the first song from the first artist in my library, which was a really heavy death metal song. That happened at least 10 times and it was really embarrassing. Aside from that, I loved that phone so much and there's nothing anyone can say that will make me feel otherwise. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
4:57 Could've been another "Shiiizzzzz" from Quinn
i had a motorola e770 back in the days and i always wondered why itunes sees it like an ipod of some sort but without any kind of support, probably there was some code left in it
By the way, there was a version of the RAZR that could hold 100 itunes songs on it. I don’t know anything about it besides that it exists and I have one. It worked fine if i can remember correctly.
Nice "midnight" music in the background. Good choice. Yeah I've been too much on epidemicsounds.
😉
I don't remember the Rockr looking so cheap. What were they thinking? The Razr was so premium feeling.
The LG Chocolate thoooo
Yeah, the thing is the original Razr and the first chocolate both shared a significant weak point: no external storage, which meant they could not really be used as proper music players. Basing the ROCKR on one of those models instead of the shitty one they picked, with the proper software and microSD slot, could have resulted in a, at least, moderately successful product.
LG Chocolate 👌🏻
palm treo 650
1:29 “Look no further than the smartphones that existed before the iphone, and the smartphones that existed after the iphone”
That’s not a very illustrative picture of the smartphone market before the iphone. I bought a Qtek s100 with my savings when I was 13. That phone resembles the form factor and layout of the original iphone and came out two years prior. I’d also say the iphone borrowed a lot of the design language and aesthetic from Sony Ericsson’s t610, even if the form factor is quite different.
There was also MyOrigo MyDevice. MyOrigo even showed the MyDevice to Apple back in 2002. Apple said they were interested in the tech and were researching touchscreen technology for the next generation media player.
MyOrigo was a small Finnish company. They also showed the MyDevice to Nokia but they weren't interested because they already had similar concepts (probably something similar to Nokia 7700?)
a the qtek s100 looks the most similar.
RichRacc
Yes, the form factor and layout of the s100 certainly reminds me of the original iphone. If you pair it with the surface and material choices of the t610, it’s getting close. Also, look at the sides of the iphone 4 and compare it to the sides of the t610. Even the volume buttons are strikingly similar.
You bought a phone... by yourself... at 13? ...Hmm where were your parents? LOL if a child needs to buy a phone at 13 with their own savings --- you might as well move out and never look back. I'm literally astonished right now :O
Andrey Ivanov
What a strange thing to say. I bought a new (and relatively expensive) phone every year back when most people upgraded their phones on a 4 year basis. It’s not like I needed it, so it makes perfect sense that I had to save up for some of these purchases myself. Also, I think it’s a good thing to learn early on how to spend wisely.
I had a ROKR, I liked it at the time. Slow sync typically meant I put my favs on it and left it at that especially with the song limit.
But that was a Motorola, even if it was certified by Apple...
I came across one ages ago. I appreciated it for its place in Apple and Motorola’s history, but ultimately I was very glad I brought home a Matte Black RAZR V3 back in the day. Even the RAZR had its issues, but it was 10x the phone the ROKR E1 was. Unrelated; I also had a PEBL for a short while - it was such a phenomenal design that I’m sure Apple’s iTunes Phone idea would’ve been much better suited to it instead, but it was recalled eventually, so it’s hard to say what would’ve been worse. Wish I’d kept it though!
Wow...I had NEVER heard of this phone before! and I was an apple fanboy supreme back then... I even got the original iPod (yes, the 5GB movable scroll wheel type w/internal Hard disk). Great video!
Ha I had the Motorola Slvr . Same kinda concept but had the button layout from the Razr. I think it was the Gen 2 of the Rokr, as it was still iTunes compatible.
Yep! Sure was. Much better phone than the ROKR
Lol that hello moto -> goodbye moto was a nice touch
In 05-06 I had the Moto SLVR L7. Loved that phone. It was great!
cortana: remind me to get this single when it drops
I HAD THE ROCKER!!!!!!! I LOVED THAT PHONE! although mine was different it was thinner and it didnt have a camera...
Yay! Someone who actually gets to the point of the video! Good job! 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻
I can't find any info about that song you're playing at 8:19, where did you find it?
Edit: Just saw the thing that said it was coming soon, but it's already been over 2 months? Guess you meant "soon™" and not "soon"
My favorite phone from Moto was the rokr e6. Linux os with touch screen
I really loved the Moto Rokr!!!
"goodbye moto"
... i was not ready for that
The ROKR was cool. Dual speakers were awesome. I legit gamed hard on that thing.
There was an iTunes version of the Razr phone. It was the one you used on the Razr shown on your vid.
I have the original Razr phone. I can tell you - apart from the outstanding design, all things that were bad about the Rokr were exactly the same level of bad on Razr, as well. It wasn't actually a very good phone at all. 🙂
My friend loved this phone for some reason even tho I hated it. Also with the iTunes function it wasn't even worth it cuz you could drag music to the phone without iTunes needed.
I actually had the Slvr which was Moto's second attempt. It looked far more the part but still had that damn 100 song limit
That I believe that wasn't the one sold here US. I purchased the att version which was white and was amazingly loud for the time. It also had disco lights 😂. Also for what ever reason I could use a 1gb card and get a little over 100 songs. For the time was a great advancement in the phone area for small and portable.
Where’s the closing music from? Good stuff man.
I’m quite a bit late, but it’s Midnight Vibe by Yomoti.
Steve: well, it's supposed to resume my music right back to where it was
Steve: why did i built this shit
Love SNAZZY LABS... Very informative and the boy knows his tech, even if he cant unscrew a screw.... lol
The ROKR E1 was my first mobile phone. Loved it and still miss the feelings it gave while I walked the streets of my hometown blasting my jams. Crying in 12 pro max😂
If the iPhone 2g on iOS 1.0 could still be activated I would use it as my phone if I found one at a good price, Of corse I will still cary a tablet or some other device around with me for more intensive stuff.
@Asami Kato All networks are going to shut down 2g service very soon like 2020 or something.
the biggest issue with this is the original iphone doesnt have usb of any kind, its firewire only
Motorola E398, the predecessor of Motorola ROKR E1 you are talking about, had musical capabilities - it had an MP3 player.
I would probably agree with you, now, but I LOVED my ROKR back in the day
love the song, its amazing cant wait for it
I really like the way you do videos and your honest opinion. Yes, I had the chance to use that phone and it was incredibly slow even in that time. A real pain in the ass.
One of Apple's terrible mistakes.
By the way, incredible song!, I had to look for the band and now I'm in love!.
Have I told you lately that you have the most beautiful eyes, Snazzy? I’m always mesmerized to see those blue eyes piercing through my soul..
When you want an IPhone but you have cheap parents
Loved to see Foals in your library
I think the Rokr has a bit more muffled but bass richer sound in the line out compared to the lossless version. Similar to Beats.
I remember the Rokr. Fun video which took me down memory lane. I remember watching the announcement of the iPhone, still gives me chills.
Same here, man. Dude did a pretty good job at presenting!!
the base model 16 or 32 gd always been great to store apps music etc...
No, Motorola made a phone, and Apple let them put iTunes in it. Try to at least be within the same galaxy in accuracy.
You're right.
Apple of course approved the device regardless of who made it hence Apple being responsible for it's failure.
@@Mr2pint this guy right here
it would’t have clickbaited us here if he used a normal title also becsuse i already know about this phone. this is one of the reasons why apple designs their own hardware other than the software they even design the packages and try several different ones for each phone. they want to control the whole user experience from a to z because they are tired of putting good software on bad hardware, at least this was true in the very beginning :P now the software is so good that they don’t put top grade hardware under it but even then, it is leaps ahead of what motorola and other phone companies had in mind these years, nowadays it is more about simply wanting a phone that runs iOS but back then it was unique and looked so cool compared to the shallowness of the industry, and even useful because even if it didn’t have an app store it had the best music player around and could go to internet with a very good navigation system for the era, these were the key points. and ofc it was the first capacitarive keyboard that worked like a charm on a little sized phone, i remember having used an old resistive touch phone and damn they sucked
8:21 What The Name Of The Song?
It's in the top right corner of the video... 2 a.m. by Villa Theatre Co.
@@Hectorz111 There's No Song That Name 2am "Coming Soon" You Dumb
1:33 what's up with that last phone ? Is it early AR ? Looks like Google's live view in Google maps.
ha! I totally forgot about this phone!
I found the ROKR kind of snazzy... :p
A friend haved the ROKR in Argentina! The tv ad was weird
I actually had one. It took me forever to figure out how to put music on it.
It needed a very old version of iTunes and it only played AAC. So I actually had to use a windows computer because there I can install any iTunes version I want. I also had the iTunes edition of RAZR.
Still have my Rokr, very loud phone at the time
8:28 This sounds amazing! Looking at their Spotify, these guys definitely deserve some extra attention 👌also, cool video!
Freek van der Heijden what is it
Has this tune ever come out?? It sounded pretty cool.
The Rockr 2 slider looked alot more like the Razr Line of Phones
6:06 Cool easter egg =D
I've been after one of these for my collection.
I'm pretty certain the ones here in the UK were max 100.
5:28 Without music functionality? I had a E398, and it was my first real music phone, was advertised with The Black Eyed Peas. Stereo Speakers with various led lights synchronized with the output? Damn it was sexy. But yeah, fully Java based and had a tons of issues.
Also my first phone with a headphone jack! 2,5mm tho, but hey, at least they tried...
Great video!
I feel it would've been a different story if it had been on the Razor, even if it didn't have amazing speakers, it was a damn nice looking phone
it was slow as fuck tough... going thru menus took ages because everything took a half sec to load, also it was kinda fragile people broke the hinge on those all the time.
it is specially bad compared to a Nokia's at the time which were incredible fast and near indestructible
To me, if they had just used the same body from the V60 plus a bigger landscape screen for watching full-length movies and UA-cam videos downloaded to your Photos library, the ROKR would've had much better publicity.
And yes, the V60T Color had a landscape screen, but it was way too small and had poor resolution. I had one when I was about two years old (shocking but true.)
The song at 8:20 is pure FIRE!
Snazzy mocking an apple product, Samsung ditching the headphone jack?
*THE END IS NIGH*
Funny how I still get goosebumps when I hear the crowd going crazy at the iPhone announcement and how "meh" I feel watching keynotes now.
Snobby labs. I owned ROKR E2 back in the day and it was a great phone.
I miss the first iPhone. Not really the device itself, but the feeling. Discovering new things, new apps and software updates really meant something. It went from „wow, it’s amazing what this thing can do“ to „why can it STILL not do this?“ quickly.
For today’s standards, the phone sucked, the camera was bad, it was really slow, had bad internet, you had to synchronize everything, but it just felt great. What I miss most is the iPod app though. They practically killed the iPod with Apple Music. I once had this meticulously curated library, almost no single songs but full albums and I would sync it to my phone and it would stay this way. Now, iTunes replaces my own files with the wrong version of the song (I have an album where songs are randomly replaced with live versions) and when I tap the wrong button, it gets added to my library and messes everything up.
I actually gave up on my once perfect library years ago. If they can ever bring back the „iPod feeling“ in the days of subscription streaming (that I use myself - nothing wrong with it, it’s just a nightmare to organize), that will be their next revolutionary product. And no, I don‘t want them to curate it for me. I want those rainy Sunday afternoons back, where I would curate my own library and not have iTunes mess it up the next day by replacing all the work I‘ve done.
In that regard, the Motorola phone was better than the current iPhones. It had a true iPod functionality.
Oh, Russian UI)
Теперь я знаю откуда твой ROKR :D
ROCKER* ^__^
The Sony Ericsson W series phones were my go-to music playing phone. Drag-and-drop music management versus the iTunes approach.
I think my favorite phone back in the day before moving over to Android far as offline music playback was the LG900G(GW300 in Europe), as it was drag, and drop your Mp3 files onto it, it was easy to navigate, and loaded up songs quickly from the SD card. Plus I honestly really like the keyboard on it once I got use to using it. It's only limiting factors for me was it's 2G Edge only fro data which was slow AF on the Opera Mini browser for it, and it being hard locked stuck on Net10 minute plans with no unlimited.
@@CommodoreFan64 I didn't have access to the internet on that phone. It was just photos, mp3, computing incoming and outgoing text messages, and waiting for 7pm to make phone calls because Unlimited Nights and Weekends.
excellently researched
Thanks for watching!!
Hey Snazzy, can you make a video about some free mac apps. If you do I have a recommendation, Spectacle a window app. btw this ain't an ad.
I listen to almost all of the artists you do! lots of indie!
As I recall, it was either Moto or the carriers who restricted the capabilities of this thing.
I wasn't even tempted to look at one.
The ROKR was doomed the moment Steve Jobs flubbed the demo. "My music will resume once the phone call ends!" And it didn't do that. He fumbled around for a second, starting the song over, saying he "pressed the wrong button." I remember seeing that live, and thought "this thing is gonna flop."
Plainrock124 just smashed this lol
adews , I thought that I was the only one that watches Plainrock from here 😂
Yes
I watch him too
Andrei Pavel same
Andrei Pavel wrong, I’ve been watching him since he had around 14k subs
Haha I used to own the ROKR and concur it was all hype, thicc boy and sooooooo slow to sync with iTunes. What a throwback.
The first iphone did suck. I was rocking a full-touchscreen smartphone running Symbian, that had native apps, copy-paste, SD-card storage for music, and a 3G HDSP data connection at the time. It wasn't until they released the iPhone 3G that they were finally able to replace this without it being a downgrade.
Don’t forget the App Store on them too.. Apple didn’t invent that.
I actually REALLY like the design at 3:55
That thumbnail 👌
Why can’t I find that single from Villa Theater Co anywhere?
Same
Damn, that thing looks more like my old Motorola C350, nothing like the Razer I got later on.
Didn’t they release an updated razr phone with iTunes support
@Snazzy Labs
It was still a *genius* idea at the time --
even though the *ROKR design* was pretty much a *copy-cater* of the beloved RIM *BlackBerry Pearl.* Remember no other phone had the features iTunes offered (after Napster and RealNetworks were decimated).
Motorola *did try* with the ROKR. At the same time they didn't want to cannibalize their RAZR series flip phones which was a killer in sales.
Also, most would rather *carry* their bar/flip phone, Pearl or RAZR *with* an iPod rather than carry a Moto ROKR with limited iTunes functionality and storage.
I'd have to say that Apple should be at fault to this as they limited the storage capabilities of songs in the ROKR.
At the time, you *can fit* more than 100 songs inside a 1GB SD Card that Moto provides if you use other formats other than Apple's iTunes.
Then again, Apple didn't want to *cannibalize* the sales of their iPod *Nano* series which also (at the time) started with 1 GB storage.
Bruh! Did you forget about the SLVR? My mom had the ROKR. I had the SLVR. The second "iTunes phone". Keypad like a razr. And slimmer then the razr when the razr was folded. I actually still have my original SLVR
Oh. And I didn't a song limit. And mini USB. Just all around better. It didn't light up like the ROKR, but YEAH. Never forget about the slvr
What's the name of the song I search for it and couldn't find it.