@@Judgement_Kazzy I read a really good book about this entire thing, and man you wouldn’t believe how mad Jobs was about this price of junk. Like my man was actually livid about what Motorola did during their partnership, because he expected and pretty much demanded something truly special (like he was known to do), and as you can see here the Motorola phone ain’t it. You can taste even to this day the giddy excitement and passion for the iPhone in that first conference (even tho the first gen iPhone was junk in its own right), which makes hearing him talk about the Motorola even funnier. No passion at all, and even a sarcastic bite if you listen hard enough.
@@LazarNaskov Well, the first iPhone was a much more respectable kind of junk than this. Really more of a "It's a mess because it's the first of its kind, and the tech needs more time to improve" kind of junk.
You can almost see the point where Steve Jobs thought to himself ‘ this shit is the best they could do?’ You know he went straight off stage and told everyone to make the iPhone.
I just hope to /GOD/ some poor intern in the engineering department didn't end up getting drilled for the playback issue on stage. Knowing Jobs, though, that probably happened regardless.
I had this phone and actually really liked it. The 100 song limitation wasn't due to ram or any other hardware limitation. It was a software limitation imposed by Apple so that the phone wouldn't steal as much market share from the ipod.
Sony's non-Playstation tech was a fucking miserable ecosystem in the 90s and 2000s. Proprietary connectors for goddamn EVERYTHING, and rarely shared across devices. >proprietary data/ charging cables, often differing across devices for no good reason >proprietary video output ports (to be fair this was mostly for their UMPCs) >proprietary memory cards (not a connector but worth mentioning)
@@nameunn5479 very very embarrassing, specially if the same companies are also increasing the amount of peripherals just for the same functionality as older models, and specially if they made you buy separate cables.
I remember selling these back in the day. It was trash. Not because it was 2005 but because, at the time, Sony Ericsson were churning out incredible MP3 playing handsets. Even by today's standards, they were great. The W800i was in a completely different league. I got one for an ex girlfriend who messaged me in 2018 to say she had only just retired it :) That little W800i outlived our relationship by over a decade :) On a related note, I recall being told by a Moto sales guy that the 100 songs limitation was actually a deliberate software bork from Apple who didn't want the Moto phone eating too much into shuffle/Nano sales.
Getting iTunes to work properly with this phone was a proper pain in the ass, and when it did it wouldn't do it consistently. I believe I used a 15 year old copy of itunes on Windows 10 for it.
When he said people on UA-cam just plugs it in and it works ... probably 10 months of fixing and finding the correct solution. Then also cutting out the part of how slow it is
That's why I never intend to throw my original iTunes CD that came with my 1st-gen Nano. It may prove useful when dealing with vintage iPods down the line
@@jammer_jammie_jam Okay, I read your comment, gave a chuckle, left the comment, then fully realized just what you said and had to come back as it gave me a good laugh 😂😂😂. Thank you for that.
I forgot how bad screens use to be. I’m happy we are living in the days that we have to genuinely fight over what a humans eye is capable of seeing because we are reaching that point.
@@elesjuan Yeah man, in school I used to hold my phone under the desk and text friends while pretending to work, it would be damn near impossible to do that on a touch screen, I really miss the days of actual buttons
I had this phone and the speakers were BLOWING THE SHIT OUT OF IT! We had real small subwoofers there, so it was mindblowing. I think even iPhone doesn't have that much bass as this little dude. It was the best phone speaker-wise.
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I feel like there needs to be some major change in a physical feature. I don't really see something as major as flip phone to smart phone happening any time soon, unless fingerprint scanners become archaic enough
Maybe a few. Most slab phones are way too forgetable. We'll most likely see nostalgia for specific apps and versions of Android or iOS, rather than nostalgia for the hardware.
It’s just like when RCA launched the 45 and tried to say the LP was rubbish because “everyone listens to singles anyway”. A company desperately trying to justify _less_ maximum runtime is never a good look.
LOL. Why does this suddenly remind me of when Google started rolling out gigabit fiber to my city. Comcast cable started running advertisement campaigns literally saying "nobody needs gigabit internet." Fast forward just a few short years and they too started to offer """GIGABIT""" internet. Sitting here with my 2000mbps up, 2000mbps down fiber to the house internet, that the shitty """gigabit""" internet that comcrap sells ya (which costs more than my 2gbps fiber) gets MAYBE 500-700mbps down and 15mbps up. SHITTY DOCSIS FOR THE LOSE. LOL
It might not have been what they really thought. We've had all manner of nonsense quotes from execs who *have* to defend their product, even if its made a mis-step. Ones that would come to mind would be like Sony trying to say the PS3 6-Axis didn't have rumble/force feedback because it was a "Last generation technology"
I wonder if the 100 song limit was a carrier demand. It's easy to forget that, at least in the US, companies like Verizon used to have the power to dictate terms to the device manufacturers. They would simply refuse to sell your phone if you didn't comply, and since (even now) most people in North America buy phones from their carrier, this meant you really had no market. The carriers used to make a ton of money on walled garden stores (look up the Jamster commercials if you're too young to remember this) and didn't want to make it easy for the end user to put their own stuff on their phones. The excellent book "Losing the Signal" talks about this.
I liked their idea of Moto Z series, where they released base phone with upgraded hardware but you could expand it through expansions. Personally loved True Zoom for it's... optical zoom. Albeit they kept it for themselves so noone else would make other or better expansions....
A mate of mine had the ROKR. The best thing about it was the tight vibration tuning. it just felt futuristic. Even today, you can feel the difference between a high end phone and a cheapy by the way they tune the vibration motor.
Still have my "Japan's first answer to the iPhone", the Sharp IS03 (such a catchy name). Bit dinged up, but still working - the battery holds a charge like it's brand new. The screen even beat out the Retina Display in 2010, at 960 x 640 it looked _sharp._
You're lucky. My iPhone 5's battery went wrong after just 11 months, my iPhone 6S's after 25 months (had to take pictures at Hyper Japan 2018 using my 0.3 megapixel 3DS instead!) and my XS's battery went wrong less than 3 years after I got that phone! If my 14 Pro's battery is still good by mid 2026, I'd be MOST surprised! (In a good way)
@@adultmoshifan87 most smartphone batteries last between 300-500 charges until their charging capacity declines. 3 years is pretty good if it was used everyday. (That's 1095 charges if you plug it everyday! More than twice it's optimal lifetime)
I loved this phone when it was new. There were all kinds of modding communities for it where you could crank up the speakers on the phone. It had great speakers for the time.
Not only the stereo speakers were awesome (I'd bet they still sound better than most modern smartphones), they also had RGB LEDs built-in. It was truly amazing.
Just want to say that I appreciate the commitment to the moto nugg. Over 5 months is a hell of a long time to stick with a video idea, and while it didn't end up working like you wanted, it ended up being a great video. Definitely worth it 👍
One thing you gotta love is the bit where the Motorola article up and if you pause it and read it, it actually says ‘people aren’t gonna want a device that JUST listens to music!’ And I mean he was dead on the money, he just executed it very poorly
Motorola’s decline has been something to watch. I worked next door to a massive Motorola office before covid. I went back for the first time in 2 years and the Motorola office has been completely flattened, wiped off the face of the earth. I know they still work on commercial and business stuff but for the average consumer they simply don’t exist anymore.
They’re still quite present in the phone space, their low to mid end phones are fairly competitive for the price. It’s not a famous brand anymore, but saying they don’t exist for the average consumer is a bit much when Moto smartphones have solid sales.
@@photonicpizza1466 Yup I have one. Moto G Stylus (2021) despite wifi and 4G LTE (when I'm out usually) cutting out from time to time (the latter being resolved by restarting the phone), it's not too bad. I agree with what you said about moto not existing for the avg consumer being a bit much.
Another straight up banger as always. I've always been into vintage and obscure devices and accessories, and your channel helped me further that interest even more!
@@9.5.9.5 dude he's literally called dankpods of course he'd be a fanboy, maybe you should change your attitude and learn to live with the fact that fanboys exist and they'res nothing wrong with it
@@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464 yeah, there's nothing wrong with them existing, the only wrong thing is that they stan the company and don't listen to genuinely good opinions
Hey Dank! It’s me from the Vince Jones concert last night. It was an honour meeting you! Keep uploading bangers and good luck with all your plans for this channel ✌️
@@just_jxrge_8397 I asked if I could, but he isn’t really into taking photos since his face gets spread across the internet, which I respect. I got an autograph tho
Wonder if Lord Pod of Dank will ever cover the Apple Newton at some point. Impressive for its time (still had plenty of issues though) and it’d be interesting to see what he’d have to say about it.
Impressive for it's time if you didn't know about the IBM Simon and immediately lost all it's credibility when US Robotics started selling the Pilot (Aka Franklin Planner) in 96, just about 2 years later. There's Apple for ya
If I still had my old MP120 I'd have totally thrown it over to him. I had a PCMCIA card with a guide for Apple sales employees to understand the Macintosh line.
If you have heard of the Apple Newton, check out Ashens video of the English knock off of it. The Amstrad Penpad, it is genuinely insane how much of an awful knock off it is
I had an e398 at one point. The thing i remember most was the loudspeaker was pretty great. Compared to everything else it was actually loud and sounded like it had a sub in it.
Yep, I had and still have an e398. Probably the phone with the best sounding speakers I've had. Probably still works, though the rubberized parts of the phone started becoming sticky like 2 years ago and I haven't touched it since. Also the charger port functions in only a specific angle so it's hard to charge, battery doesn't hold much either. But I remember I brought it to school in like 2012-2013 and we listened to music on it with some of my friends back then, somehow it worked fine with a 4GB SD card even though it's not supported.
Cell phones peaked at the Razr and no one can convince me otherwise. I don't care how sleek and shiny the next slim box that comes out is, the Razr's design is the pinnacle
I absolutely loved this phone. I begged my parents for this phone back in the day. I specifically remember how long it took to load the music on the phone.
Never knew these existed and also thx for getting me back into iPods I swear because of you I now have 6 iPods, I got the touch guys, the nanos that im scared that they’ll eventually just explode, a mini, really mate thanks
11:49 that's why Steve Jobs basically shit on it at the keynote. The iPhone was well into it's development and he knew he was about to blow all phones out of the water.
Love your vids man Honestly you’re a big inspiration to me. I’ve been watching you since day one. Thank you for supporting me without even knowing you do it.
Oh wow, I played a slightly older version of that worms knockoff game at 8:54 all the time when I was younger. Was loads of fun passing it back and forth with my bro in the car.
I had this phone, still have it! I had the black one though (Motorola E398) and they did a collab with Black Eyed Peas with that model. that's why there were already presaved BEP ringtones on this one. Man, I loved this phone. I felt so cool with this tiny phone. The coolest part was the speakers on the side - they had colorful lights built in. So whenever you played music, or someone texted/called you, it would start to flash those colorful lights around like you were in a disco or something. One of my favorite phones I had back then, so mate dankpods - thank you very much that you made this video. Absolute favorite! 🙌🏻 Greetings from Austria (Australia's ugly cousin), Ellie
I think you might need an older version of iTunes, specifically from this CD, and see if that works cause I've heard that sync is no longer compatible with this phone on later versions.
That "Worms Knockoff" was on the Razr too, I remember my sister and I playing it on long road trips sometimes. Also, you'll find certain versions of iTunes stop supporting devices, even though they say they don't, I still need to run old versions of iTunes to be able to use ipod touches properly
Apple and Motorola (and IBM) worked together back with the first Power Macintoshes, and even managed to make a Mac powerful enough to be classified as a supercomputer by the US Government (which resulted in the Power Mac G4 being banned from sale to certain countries), yet 6 years later they release a phone from last year with only 100 songs and crappy controls. Motorola, what the hell happened?
As someone that loves my PowerPC Macs, god I hate Motorola's phones. They still suck, I'm typing this on a Moto G Play right now that's weaker than an LG V20 from 6 years ago.
The division of Motorola that made the processors was spun-off into a separate company around the same time as the phone came out. You could pretty much make a documentary miniseries of Motorola’s downhill spiral.
Pretty cool seeing some of Motorola's failures, considering I own and use a Motorola as my current phone. Not one the new Razrs but I seriously want one, they are so cool.
@@Minitrucker231 ayo another one 5g ace owner, it's my second motorola though (had a moto e in 2015), that said i really wanted a z2/z3 but my old phone was still working at the time. i like my one 5g ace (128gb, sd card slot, headphone jack, huge battery and not too expensive) but the camera is absolute garbage compared to my old p20 huawei, and the huawei is four years old at this point
@@oliviersavard8676 I'm not too fussed about the camera. Tbh it's a ton better than what I'm used to so it's not a deal breaker for me. I've had two Moto E's, a G7 Play and a G Power (2021). The G7 and the G Power are still being used, the G7 as my iPod of sorts (lol, bit ironic eh?) and the G Power as my OBD2 reader and auxiliary gauges for my car
For itunes sync you need old version of iTunes SW, and maybe Windows PC. Also, they have English in settings menu) I have E398 with firmware from ROKR E1 and with old iTunes on Windows - it works
When it comes to his junk automotive vlogs to tech reviews to humour... Those are the main reasons why I watch this channel... He's a real funny yet motivating guy who appreciates his fans. 🙏
The ROKR was a really good phone. I like how they connected the vibration motor to the audio to vibrate when playing music. Motorola also had a different model that does have this feature, I think it was the V220 I think
I believe the reason why it came out so terribly is because even though Motorola was a big company at the time and made amazing phones, they were going into unknown territory without having little to any experience prior to this. The idea to have music on a phone is genius, but not if it is a detriment to the phone software and hardware itself.
@@drewzero1 exactly. This product was over hyped but underworked. As it is shown in the video, it had major problems like how slow it was, how it would say "no sim" and how it would sometimes brick itself out of nowhere. There is a reason why the ipod nano smashed this thing, with the black spots and all.
I remember when this was brand new. I already then thought it was a failed attempt; I always had the theory that Jobs did that on purpose to weaken Motorola (one of the biggest players in mobile phones back then) in anticipation of the iPhone. Apple had been working on that at this point already, so I thought it kind of fit the narrative, as conspiracy-ish as it may sound.
literally had this phone as a 5 year old back in 2005, i remember it lagged all the time and after a year of usage the sim always would have problems loading up my network lmao, truly the worst phone i had lol
@@Ivannbeats because my family moved and wired phones weren't really popular anymore, no one used em basically so everyone in my family opted to have mobile phones, and so for some reason I got the phone, didn't even view at it as being an iTunes device, I doubt anyone used that in europe back then
I remember the SLVR had iTunes support as well. If I'm not mistaken, that was a L7. I had the L6 when I was growing up and my favorite game was Block Breaker Deluxe, good times.
I had one of these as a kid! It had amazing *stereo* loudspeakers and a really nice cable. The 100 track limit on iTunes was a bummer. I remember that with 100 tracks, it took a lot of time to launch iTunes, and I remember being annoyed that it was so easy to accidentally hit the music button and have to wait for it to load. I really wish you managed to play something over the loudspeakers! Mine came with a pretty fun soccer game and a The Sims-like life simulation, the latter was the first game I played that had this mechanic where it tracks the system time to advance the in-game time, which was a brand new concept at the time for this form factor. Really cool stuff! I actually stopped using it because I bought the iPod Nano, so I guess Motorola's CEO was right haha
Funnily enough, the Razr you showed at the beginning is actually the Razr v3i, which also had iTunes (the i in v3i is for iTunes, if you couldn’t guess) and came out a couple of months after the Rokr.
A mate had the beefier Razr (the V3x I believe it was) that had a selfie camera on the hinge and its regular camera was 2MP vs. the regular V3's VGA one. At the time I wanted one of those but could never find it.
I had one of those back in the day. Aside from the improved sensor it also had a macro mode (via a little physical slider near the selfie cam) that worked surprisingly well, as well as an LED "flash" (it didn't actually flash-you just toggled it on and off in the camera app). Unlike the original RAZR that thing was able to take heaps of abuse, and since it had a microSD card you could take more than 15 photos before you ran out of storage. I don't recall seeing it available through any major carriers in the US (though I know the V3xx was), but I was able to buy an unlocked handset through Newegg.
I used to have one of these, it was the cheapest phone I could find with an external SD card. I used the iTunes feature a few times but gave up because of how bad it was. The crappy non Apple music player on the phone somehow better and supported much more than 100 songs. ITunes also locked you into the USB 1.1 transfer speed, it was literally faster listen to an album than it was the copy it to the phone. I used to take the card out and save music directly to that. Thaks for the walk down memory lane. I'd like to say I was nostalgic for it, but the ROKR really wasn't a good phone. The Walkman phones on the other hand....
In a video from fellow tech UA-camr Snazzy Labs about the Rokr, he said that support for the phone on iTunes was dropped early on, while even the first iPod is still supported in iTunes on Mac Computers. (btw you two should definitely collaborate at some point)
The Nano was my favorite iPod second to the 4-button iPod only (which I modded heavily!). Had rockbox firmware and played Doom on that thing on the way to school. Love both. And only both. Imagine if this phone was the new apple/Motorola flagship Collab? Imagine if it was any good? Imagine where the tech scene would be at right now?
The fact that the preloaded game on there was a Worms knock off is actually mind boggling to me. That’s such a complicated game for just a phone from the early 2000s. I would’ve expected breakout or something
You should check out Sony Ericsson K800 or K850 to see what the higer end of "dumb-phones" were like. The vibrant selection of J2ME games that I downloaded over the 2.5G connection on these through the multiple app stores I had installed predated the apple app store by a long, long while.
I had this phone and loved it!! I left it at a movie theater literally the day before the iPhone launched in 2007. I wasn't planning on getting it but fate intervened and I've been on iPhone since literally day 1.
Revisiting this video and when the footage of Steve Jobs showing the ROKR and being “enthusiastic” about it came up, I was reminded of a quote from the Walter Issacson penned Biography on Jobs (hefty but great read, BTW). “I’m sick of dealing with these stupid companies like Motorola.” -“Papa” Steve Jobs
I had one of these when i was a teenager, i remember being really disappointed cos i ordered the X1, which was the flip version of it, but they sent me the technically better X2 (this phone) and i remember being really disappointed cos i wanted a flippy phone damnit, when you're a teenager. boy was i wrong, as soon as i got used to having decent entertainment in my pocket the desire for a flip phone dropped off, believe i finally replaced it with a HTC hero (the one with the dumb chin on it) that i got off a friend for 20 pounds
I had the motorola E398 and that was a brilliant phone. The side speakers lot up with rgb, it sounded great and came with some pretty decent software to convert songs to mp3
I had the Motorola SLVR (pronounced "sliver") back in 06-07. It was the candy bar phone version of the RAZR. And I specifically bought it because it had iTunes on it. I could tell, way back in 2005, that at some point in time the folks from Cupertino were going to merge phones and iPods. I saw my fellow college students walk around campus with an iPod in one hand and a cell phone in the other. I still have that phone in a box in the basement... somewhere. If I find it I'll ship it to you Mr. Dank Pod.
This phone really tortured DankPods for 5 months before finally accepting the sim card, only to fail spectacularly at everything else it's supposed to do other than running a worms knockoff with shoddy controls. 10/10 nugget
This was the best music Phone I ever owned. This has true stereo speakers in it and if you layed it down on a Table this made sound even in the bass area. And you held it right in Front of your face it had a stereo wideness you couldnt get from even some hifi systems. I liked it a lot!
Whilst the phone itself was ... well shit. Slow, clunky (also, that model 1:15 is not the first in line), barely any memory. It was an innovator. Also, the speakers. The design involved in making the speakers of that phone is... out of this world. It doesn't even need a phone vibrator motor, the speakers were used to vibrate the phone. Technologically speaking, it was the future.
I remember thinking, it would be so cool if you could put on 2 bluetooth earpieces and play music through them both. Little did I know that years later the AirPods would be announced haha!
I like how Steve Jobs was so deadpan on the keynote like "heres something we made i guess"
I'm sure they were already working on the actual iPhone behind the scenes at this time, so he REALLY didn't give a shit.
"the iTunes phone :/"
@@Judgement_Kazzy I read a really good book about this entire thing, and man you wouldn’t believe how mad Jobs was about this price of junk. Like my man was actually livid about what Motorola did during their partnership, because he expected and pretty much demanded something truly special (like he was known to do), and as you can see here the Motorola phone ain’t it. You can taste even to this day the giddy excitement and passion for the iPhone in that first conference (even tho the first gen iPhone was junk in its own right), which makes hearing him talk about the Motorola even funnier. No passion at all, and even a sarcastic bite if you listen hard enough.
if you had knowledge of what was coming next you too would be like "meh" :D
@@LazarNaskov Well, the first iPhone was a much more respectable kind of junk than this. Really more of a "It's a mess because it's the first of its kind, and the tech needs more time to improve" kind of junk.
You can almost see the point where Steve Jobs thought to himself ‘ this shit is the best they could do?’ You know he went straight off stage and told everyone to make the iPhone.
Or, apple intentionally sabotaged this product because their iphone wasnt ready yet
*puts on tin foil hat*
I just hope to /GOD/ some poor intern in the engineering department didn't end up getting drilled for the playback issue on stage.
Knowing Jobs, though, that probably happened regardless.
@@MEATPANTS the development time for a product like the iphone is well longer than a year. Jobs absolutely knew they had the iphone in the works.
I saw absolute seething rage in his face for these few moments
@@Konarcoffee “well it was supposed to resume” was as polite as he could get lmao
I had this phone and actually really liked it. The 100 song limitation wasn't due to ram or any other hardware limitation. It was a software limitation imposed by Apple so that the phone wouldn't steal as much market share from the ipod.
That just feels kinda ridiculous.
@@The_Bird_Bird_Harder Would you expect anything else from Apple?
@@russianspy1234 yeah if you dont put in the right battery the iPhone 15 will boot up into Android
It wouldnt even be modern Android it would be like android 2.2, which means very little/no support
Loved mine too. The output was really bass heavy, it'd walk across the table. Perfect for teenage me.
Man isn't it crazy that some phones had specific charging cables back in the day instead of one standard connector
Yeah i fucking hated that, i'm unable to use several old phones because i lost the damn charger
It sure would be embarrassing if phones still hade proprietary chargers
Sony's non-Playstation tech was a fucking miserable ecosystem in the 90s and 2000s. Proprietary connectors for goddamn EVERYTHING, and rarely shared across devices.
>proprietary data/ charging cables, often differing across devices for no good reason
>proprietary video output ports (to be fair this was mostly for their UMPCs)
>proprietary memory cards (not a connector but worth mentioning)
@@nameunn5479 very very embarrassing, specially if the same companies are also increasing the amount of peripherals just for the same functionality as older models, and specially if they made you buy separate cables.
@@lasarousiimagine if they were forced by the government to change it, so embarrassing
I remember selling these back in the day. It was trash. Not because it was 2005 but because, at the time, Sony Ericsson were churning out incredible MP3 playing handsets. Even by today's standards, they were great. The W800i was in a completely different league. I got one for an ex girlfriend who messaged me in 2018 to say she had only just retired it :) That little W800i outlived our relationship by over a decade :)
On a related note, I recall being told by a Moto sales guy that the 100 songs limitation was actually a deliberate software bork from Apple who didn't want the Moto phone eating too much into shuffle/Nano sales.
Getting iTunes to work properly with this phone was a proper pain in the ass, and when it did it wouldn't do it consistently. I believe I used a 15 year old copy of itunes on Windows 10 for it.
When he said people on UA-cam just plugs it in and it works ... probably 10 months of fixing and finding the correct solution. Then also cutting out the part of how slow it is
@@Liggliluff Yeah, I did that in the shit video I made about the phone
That's why I never intend to throw my original iTunes CD that came with my 1st-gen Nano. It may prove useful when dealing with vintage iPods down the line
@@elfedorausado Id even suggest ripping the contents of the disc and backing it up just in case
You had windows 10 in 2005?
You can tell that Steve Jobs was utterly embarrassed by this phone
He was massively complaining about it before getting up to do the keynote
Can you blame him? It's a phone from the previous year that Apple is now contractually obligated to pretend is a new device.
@@daemonspudguy sounds familiar.
@@jammer_jammie_jam Okay, I read your comment, gave a chuckle, left the comment, then fully realized just what you said and had to come back as it gave me a good laugh 😂😂😂. Thank you for that.
I forgot how bad screens use to be. I’m happy we are living in the days that we have to genuinely fight over what a humans eye is capable of seeing because we are reaching that point.
I legit miss one handed T9 texting that didn't require you to even look at the phone...
@@elesjuan Yeah man, in school I used to hold my phone under the desk and text friends while pretending to work, it would be damn near impossible to do that on a touch screen, I really miss the days of actual buttons
@@notaname8140 it’s really easy to do it on a touch screen?
@@cursedwithlag no
@@saints_row_cat it is
I had this phone and the speakers were BLOWING THE SHIT OUT OF IT! We had real small subwoofers there, so it was mindblowing. I think even iPhone doesn't have that much bass as this little dude. It was the best phone speaker-wise.
E398 best of classic phone. Review is really flat
Absolutely best stereo speakers ever in a Phone. Not to mention these nice disco light. This made some nice spontanious Disco Party that thing
10:43 “this thing is the oldest it’s ever been” that..that’s kinda how time works
🤓 👆
I wonder if modern phones will ever be looked the same way we look at flip phones
Yeah maybe if ar glasses get stupid popular
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I feel like there needs to be some major change in a physical feature. I don't really see something as major as flip phone to smart phone happening any time soon, unless fingerprint scanners become archaic enough
Maybe a few. Most slab phones are way too forgetable. We'll most likely see nostalgia for specific apps and versions of Android or iOS, rather than nostalgia for the hardware.
Eventually
The quote from the Motorola exec asking who listens to 1000 songs when criticising the Nano shows how much they underestimated the market.
TBH I don't really understand that either. I usually cycle through the same 100-200 songs every year
It’s just like when RCA launched the 45 and tried to say the LP was rubbish because “everyone listens to singles anyway”.
A company desperately trying to justify _less_ maximum runtime is never a good look.
LOL. Why does this suddenly remind me of when Google started rolling out gigabit fiber to my city. Comcast cable started running advertisement campaigns literally saying "nobody needs gigabit internet." Fast forward just a few short years and they too started to offer """GIGABIT""" internet. Sitting here with my 2000mbps up, 2000mbps down fiber to the house internet, that the shitty """gigabit""" internet that comcrap sells ya (which costs more than my 2gbps fiber) gets MAYBE 500-700mbps down and 15mbps up. SHITTY DOCSIS FOR THE LOSE. LOL
It might not have been what they really thought. We've had all manner of nonsense quotes from execs who *have* to defend their product, even if its made a mis-step.
Ones that would come to mind would be like Sony trying to say the PS3 6-Axis didn't have rumble/force feedback because it was a "Last generation technology"
I wonder if the 100 song limit was a carrier demand. It's easy to forget that, at least in the US, companies like Verizon used to have the power to dictate terms to the device manufacturers. They would simply refuse to sell your phone if you didn't comply, and since (even now) most people in North America buy phones from their carrier, this meant you really had no market. The carriers used to make a ton of money on walled garden stores (look up the Jamster commercials if you're too young to remember this) and didn't want to make it easy for the end user to put their own stuff on their phones. The excellent book "Losing the Signal" talks about this.
Motorola not only invented mobile phones, but also produced 68000 processors for old Macs and multiple game consoles like the Sega Mega Drive!
Random fact: It was also in radar consoles that the U.S. military uses like the SPA-25G.
Very handy processor in general.
Early and mid 80s ProCo Rat pedals used LM308 chips from Motorola
They also co-designed and -produced the PowerPC G4 for Macs, together with IBM (the Apple, IBM, Motorola [AIM] Alliance).
@@MacPhantom weird you mentioned the g4 but not g3 or g5 lol
I liked their idea of Moto Z series, where they released base phone with upgraded hardware but you could expand it through expansions. Personally loved True Zoom for it's... optical zoom.
Albeit they kept it for themselves so noone else would make other or better expansions....
Here in Brazil the Mini USB type B cable is still to this day called "V3" because of this phone.
A mate of mine had the ROKR. The best thing about it was the tight vibration tuning. it just felt futuristic.
Even today, you can feel the difference between a high end phone and a cheapy by the way they tune the vibration motor.
Still have my "Japan's first answer to the iPhone", the Sharp IS03 (such a catchy name). Bit dinged up, but still working - the battery holds a charge like it's brand new. The screen even beat out the Retina Display in 2010, at 960 x 640 it looked _sharp._
I'm guessing the display was so SHARP it manufactured itself
Badum tsss
You're lucky. My iPhone 5's battery went wrong after just 11 months, my iPhone 6S's after 25 months (had to take pictures at Hyper Japan 2018 using my 0.3 megapixel 3DS instead!) and my XS's battery went wrong less than 3 years after I got that phone! If my 14 Pro's battery is still good by mid 2026, I'd be MOST surprised! (In a good way)
@@adultmoshifan87 most smartphone batteries last between 300-500 charges until their charging capacity declines. 3 years is pretty good if it was used everyday. (That's 1095 charges if you plug it everyday! More than twice it's optimal lifetime)
@@handlemonium i saw what you did there lmao
I loved this phone when it was new. There were all kinds of modding communities for it where you could crank up the speakers on the phone. It had great speakers for the time.
The old days of using those like hex editing programs to change things on Motorola's. I used to "hack" razrs for people in school
I've yet to hear a phone since that has equalled that punchiness to it's bass.
Not only the stereo speakers were awesome (I'd bet they still sound better than most modern smartphones), they also had RGB LEDs built-in. It was truly amazing.
@@pedroemn yeeeeah. Those were the times!
Just want to say that I appreciate the commitment to the moto nugg. Over 5 months is a hell of a long time to stick with a video idea, and while it didn't end up working like you wanted, it ended up being a great video. Definitely worth it 👍
One thing you gotta love is the bit where the Motorola article up and if you pause it and read it, it actually says ‘people aren’t gonna want a device that JUST listens to music!’ And I mean he was dead on the money, he just executed it very poorly
I love how dank always says “Can you believe no one bought this!?” even though someone clearly bought it otherwise he wouldn’t have had it 🤣
Motorola’s decline has been something to watch. I worked next door to a massive Motorola office before covid. I went back for the first time in 2 years and the Motorola office has been completely flattened, wiped off the face of the earth. I know they still work on commercial and business stuff but for the average consumer they simply don’t exist anymore.
They’re still quite present in the phone space, their low to mid end phones are fairly competitive for the price. It’s not a famous brand anymore, but saying they don’t exist for the average consumer is a bit much when Moto smartphones have solid sales.
@@photonicpizza1466 Yup I have one. Moto G Stylus (2021) despite wifi and 4G LTE (when I'm out usually) cutting out from time to time (the latter being resolved by restarting the phone), it's not too bad. I agree with what you said about moto not existing for the avg consumer being a bit much.
@@photonicpizza1466 Motorola phones aren't the same company. Its a spin off bought by google and then sold to lenovo
@@memediatek Funnily enough, it seemed nicer when it belonged to Google. But oh yeah, OF COURSE Google had to sell Motorola.
Here in Latin America they still sell very well. They're even the best selling brand in Argentina.
Another straight up banger as always. I've always been into vintage and obscure devices and accessories, and your channel helped me further that interest even more!
Just wish he would tone down the apple fanboying a bit
@@9.5.9.5 dude he's literally called dankpods of course he'd be a fanboy, maybe you should change your attitude and learn to live with the fact that fanboys exist and they'res nothing wrong with it
@@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464 yeah, there's nothing wrong with them existing, the only wrong thing is that they stan the company and don't listen to genuinely good opinions
Hey Dank! It’s me from the Vince Jones concert last night. It was an honour meeting you! Keep uploading bangers and good luck with all your plans for this channel ✌️
Epic
Please tell me you took a pic
@@just_jxrge_8397 I asked if I could, but he isn’t really into taking photos since his face gets spread across the internet, which I respect. I got an autograph tho
@funli yep
@funli I’ll show you on discord if you want
When I first saw that phone in the thumbnail I said “that phone looks pretty cool.” Turns out it was a pretty cool phone, and nothing more
You can see the keyboard dirt on the screen😂 0:55
Wonder if Lord Pod of Dank will ever cover the Apple Newton at some point.
Impressive for its time (still had plenty of issues though) and it’d be interesting to see what he’d have to say about it.
Impressive for it's time if you didn't know about the IBM Simon and immediately lost all it's credibility when US Robotics started selling the Pilot (Aka Franklin Planner) in 96, just about 2 years later.
There's Apple for ya
If I still had my old MP120 I'd have totally thrown it over to him. I had a PCMCIA card with a guide for Apple sales employees to understand the Macintosh line.
If you have heard of the Apple Newton, check out Ashens video of the English knock off of it. The Amstrad Penpad, it is genuinely insane how much of an awful knock off it is
@Don't Read My Profile Photo go away
@@PixelReaper yes I immediately thought of that video, it's a classic.
I had an e398 at one point. The thing i remember most was the loudspeaker was pretty great. Compared to everything else it was actually loud and sounded like it had a sub in it.
And it might have been stereo.
Yep, I had and still have an e398. Probably the phone with the best sounding speakers I've had. Probably still works, though the rubberized parts of the phone started becoming sticky like 2 years ago and I haven't touched it since. Also the charger port functions in only a specific angle so it's hard to charge, battery doesn't hold much either. But I remember I brought it to school in like 2012-2013 and we listened to music on it with some of my friends back then, somehow it worked fine with a 4GB SD card even though it's not supported.
@@mitko_dsv1999 I had a E398 back then and bought a E1 some years ago. Yes, the rubber parts are very bad now.
had the same phone, great speakers , love that phone
it was the ultimate blast songs out on the bus nugget
Damn did I need this! Crappy day and the green rectangle pushes the anxiety away. Love ya, Danky!
Steve’s reaction:
iTunes phone: “Here’s… uhm, a new phone Motorola made or whatever…
iPod Nano: “Behold! Our thinnest iPod ever!”
Cell phones peaked at the Razr and no one can convince me otherwise. I don't care how sleek and shiny the next slim box that comes out is, the Razr's design is the pinnacle
The only thing Jobs hated more than this was science based medicine
He didn't get the new liver from a chiropractor.
Pancreatic cancer is a guaranteed death sentence. Still to this day.
Ooooooooooo
lmao
Shut up
I absolutely loved this phone. I begged my parents for this phone back in the day. I specifically remember how long it took to load the music on the phone.
Never knew these existed and also thx for getting me back into iPods I swear because of you I now have 6 iPods, I got the touch guys, the nanos that im scared that they’ll eventually just explode, a mini, really mate thanks
11:49 that's why Steve Jobs basically shit on it at the keynote. The iPhone was well into it's development and he knew he was about to blow all phones out of the water.
Turns out that there is a special conector for syncing the Motorola Rockr.
i've been watching dankpods since 2019. i love your content bro. keep it up.
Same the content is 👌
10:35 every long-term fan is just screaming at their phones at this point in unison. *ONE GRIT! 👏🏻 ONE GRIT! 👏🏻*
Love your vids man Honestly you’re a big inspiration to me. I’ve been watching you since day one. Thank you for supporting me without even knowing you do it.
Damn those Bots
@@secretjanus just report them
@@kavensku_baudejas that won't work because they can just make more accounts
Wtf is the second bots name
@@GasStationBird they'll fuck off eventually, just keep kicking them off.
I like how it can hold exactly the entirety of Undertale OST.
*It is perfect.*
Oh wow, I played a slightly older version of that worms knockoff game at 8:54 all the time when I was younger. Was loads of fun passing it back and forth with my bro in the car.
"Frank please listen to me.." had me laughing love the endings of your videos
it's quite funny how the nano was presented in the same keynote, like, it was doomed from the start LOL
I had this phone, still have it! I had the black one though (Motorola E398) and they did a collab with Black Eyed Peas with that model. that's why there were already presaved BEP ringtones on this one. Man, I loved this phone. I felt so cool with this tiny phone. The coolest part was the speakers on the side - they had colorful lights built in. So whenever you played music, or someone texted/called you, it would start to flash those colorful lights around like you were in a disco or something. One of my favorite phones I had back then, so mate dankpods - thank you very much that you made this video. Absolute favorite! 🙌🏻
Greetings from Austria (Australia's ugly cousin), Ellie
I think you might need an older version of iTunes, specifically from this CD, and see if that works cause I've heard that sync is no longer compatible with this phone on later versions.
That "Worms Knockoff" was on the Razr too, I remember my sister and I playing it on long road trips sometimes.
Also, you'll find certain versions of iTunes stop supporting devices, even though they say they don't, I still need to run old versions of iTunes to be able to use ipod touches properly
Apple and Motorola (and IBM) worked together back with the first Power Macintoshes, and even managed to make a Mac powerful enough to be classified as a supercomputer by the US Government (which resulted in the Power Mac G4 being banned from sale to certain countries), yet 6 years later they release a phone from last year with only 100 songs and crappy controls. Motorola, what the hell happened?
When ego, drugs, and apathy come together in a very special way, magic happens. A magic called garbage.
As someone that loves my PowerPC Macs, god I hate Motorola's phones. They still suck, I'm typing this on a Moto G Play right now that's weaker than an LG V20 from 6 years ago.
The division of Motorola that made the processors was spun-off into a separate company around the same time as the phone came out.
You could pretty much make a documentary miniseries of Motorola’s downhill spiral.
I don't think Motorola is the one to blame
Pretty cool seeing some of Motorola's failures, considering I own and use a Motorola as my current phone. Not one the new Razrs but I seriously want one, they are so cool.
@@HadenBlake Moto One 5G Ace user here. It's currently my 8th Motorola phone
@@Minitrucker231 ayo another one 5g ace owner, it's my second motorola though (had a moto e in 2015), that said i really wanted a z2/z3 but my old phone was still working at the time. i like my one 5g ace (128gb, sd card slot, headphone jack, huge battery and not too expensive) but the camera is absolute garbage compared to my old p20 huawei, and the huawei is four years old at this point
@@oliviersavard8676 I'm not too fussed about the camera. Tbh it's a ton better than what I'm used to so it's not a deal breaker for me. I've had two Moto E's, a G7 Play and a G Power (2021). The G7 and the G Power are still being used, the G7 as my iPod of sorts (lol, bit ironic eh?) and the G Power as my OBD2 reader and auxiliary gauges for my car
I got an banana.
How cool is that😎
I know it must be a saying but:
"this thing is the oldest it's ever been"
That's... Literally everything in existence.
Well, most things. Objects which fall through a time warp into the past are exempt!
Benjamin Button??
For itunes sync you need old version of iTunes SW, and maybe Windows PC.
Also, they have English in settings menu)
I have E398 with firmware from ROKR E1 and with old iTunes on Windows - it works
I love the visible “what are we doing with this again…?” expression on Steve Jobs during the ROKR presentation until he pulls out the Nano lol
When it comes to his junk automotive vlogs to tech reviews to humour... Those are the main reasons why I watch this channel... He's a real funny yet motivating guy who appreciates his fans. 🙏
It’s always fun to pause and look at the goofy names
the dopamine rush i get every time i see a new dankpods video is unparalleled
The ROKR was a really good phone. I like how they connected the vibration motor to the audio to vibrate when playing music. Motorola also had a different model that does have this feature, I think it was the V220 I think
sounds like what sonys do
My older sister had this phone and it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen at the time
I believe the reason why it came out so terribly is because even though Motorola was a big company at the time and made amazing phones, they were going into unknown territory without having little to any experience prior to this. The idea to have music on a phone is genius, but not if it is a detriment to the phone software and hardware itself.
It's almost like big companies make the worst stuff!
@@drewzero1 exactly. This product was over hyped but underworked. As it is shown in the video, it had major problems like how slow it was, how it would say "no sim" and how it would sometimes brick itself out of nowhere. There is a reason why the ipod nano smashed this thing, with the black spots and all.
I remember when this was brand new. I already then thought it was a failed attempt; I always had the theory that Jobs did that on purpose to weaken Motorola (one of the biggest players in mobile phones back then) in anticipation of the iPhone. Apple had been working on that at this point already, so I thought it kind of fit the narrative, as conspiracy-ish as it may sound.
literally had this phone as a 5 year old back in 2005, i remember it lagged all the time and after a year of usage the sim always would have problems loading up my network lmao, truly the worst phone i had lol
You remember a phone that you had as a five year old?? I kinda doubt that mate....
@@elesjuan why wouldn't I lmao, I have a good memory, I used it to make calls and texts basically, had no functionality besides that
@@Ivannbeats because my family moved and wired phones weren't really popular anymore, no one used em basically so everyone in my family opted to have mobile phones, and so for some reason I got the phone, didn't even view at it as being an iTunes device, I doubt anyone used that in europe back then
Steve jobs was not interested because at that time the iPhone was already in the design phase.
That 'Are you kidding me?' Is the most serious I've ever heard Wade.
I remember the SLVR had iTunes support as well. If I'm not mistaken, that was a L7. I had the L6 when I was growing up and my favorite game was Block Breaker Deluxe, good times.
Yes, L7 have iTunes in US, in Europe they just put a mp3 player.
Also this series 4LTR have a first phone with eInk display
Yep I had that phone. Absolutely loved it I'm In the UK tho so no iTunes for me. Standard drag n drop.
The Motorola Rocker sounds more like a Lazy Boy that has a phone line built into it IMO
I had one of these as a kid! It had amazing *stereo* loudspeakers and a really nice cable. The 100 track limit on iTunes was a bummer. I remember that with 100 tracks, it took a lot of time to launch iTunes, and I remember being annoyed that it was so easy to accidentally hit the music button and have to wait for it to load. I really wish you managed to play something over the loudspeakers! Mine came with a pretty fun soccer game and a The Sims-like life simulation, the latter was the first game I played that had this mechanic where it tracks the system time to advance the in-game time, which was a brand new concept at the time for this form factor. Really cool stuff! I actually stopped using it because I bought the iPod Nano, so I guess Motorola's CEO was right haha
Funnily enough, the Razr you showed at the beginning is actually the Razr v3i, which also had iTunes (the i in v3i is for iTunes, if you couldn’t guess) and came out a couple of months after the Rokr.
I love how you can find this sentence in every dank pods video, "can you believe no one bought this?"
This guy is the best ngl
He is
love these new phones, can't wait to see the second one
Lmao
I just watched a spam comment get deleted in real time
You can thank me for removing these bots' comments.
A mate had the beefier Razr (the V3x I believe it was) that had a selfie camera on the hinge and its regular camera was 2MP vs. the regular V3's VGA one. At the time I wanted one of those but could never find it.
I had one of those back in the day. Aside from the improved sensor it also had a macro mode (via a little physical slider near the selfie cam) that worked surprisingly well, as well as an LED "flash" (it didn't actually flash-you just toggled it on and off in the camera app). Unlike the original RAZR that thing was able to take heaps of abuse, and since it had a microSD card you could take more than 15 photos before you ran out of storage.
I don't recall seeing it available through any major carriers in the US (though I know the V3xx was), but I was able to buy an unlocked handset through Newegg.
@@Spectere my mate never specified where he got his, but he got it unlocked.
I’ll never understand why they started numbering the RAZR at 3
I used to have one of these, it was the cheapest phone I could find with an external SD card.
I used the iTunes feature a few times but gave up because of how bad it was. The crappy non Apple music player on the phone somehow better and supported much more than 100 songs. ITunes also locked you into the USB 1.1 transfer speed, it was literally faster listen to an album than it was the copy it to the phone. I used to take the card out and save music directly to that.
Thaks for the walk down memory lane. I'd like to say I was nostalgic for it, but the ROKR really wasn't a good phone. The Walkman phones on the other hand....
In a video from fellow tech UA-camr Snazzy Labs about the Rokr, he said that support for the phone on iTunes was dropped early on, while even the first iPod is still supported in iTunes on Mac Computers. (btw you two should definitely collaborate at some point)
Should take a look at the Samsung Juke. I loved that weird swivel open design. felt very sci-fi.
The Nano was my favorite iPod second to the 4-button iPod only (which I modded heavily!). Had rockbox firmware and played Doom on that thing on the way to school. Love both. And only both.
Imagine if this phone was the new apple/Motorola flagship Collab? Imagine if it was any good? Imagine where the tech scene would be at right now?
My dad had one of those, still one of the best phones
(The razor one I meant)
It was my first phone. (In 2012)
Wow, This is my favorite phone of pre-iPhone era! Love it. Incredible sound. Real Bass :)
The fact that the preloaded game on there was a Worms knock off is actually mind boggling to me. That’s such a complicated game for just a phone from the early 2000s. I would’ve expected breakout or something
You should check out Sony Ericsson K800 or K850 to see what the higer end of "dumb-phones" were like.
The vibrant selection of J2ME games that I downloaded over the 2.5G connection on these through the multiple app stores I had installed predated the apple app store by a long, long while.
I was a Sony Ericsson fan as a teen, had like 5 different ones, the walkman ones were sweet
You should definitely do more videos on classic phones. Nokia has some very strange nuggets, especially in their fashion lines.
0:13, that's not a nugget, that's a whole chicken breast
I had this phone and loved it!! I left it at a movie theater literally the day before the iPhone launched in 2007. I wasn't planning on getting it but fate intervened and I've been on iPhone since literally day 1.
Awesome! Apple has been with me since the touch Gen 1 and the 4s
Revisiting this video and when the footage of Steve Jobs showing the ROKR and being “enthusiastic” about it came up, I was reminded of a quote from the Walter Issacson penned Biography on Jobs (hefty but great read, BTW).
“I’m sick of dealing with these stupid companies like Motorola.”
-“Papa” Steve Jobs
I had one of these when i was a teenager, i remember being really disappointed cos i ordered the X1, which was the flip version of it, but they sent me the technically better X2 (this phone) and i remember being really disappointed cos i wanted a flippy phone damnit, when you're a teenager. boy was i wrong, as soon as i got used to having decent entertainment in my pocket the desire for a flip phone dropped off, believe i finally replaced it with a HTC hero (the one with the dumb chin on it) that i got off a friend for 20 pounds
Mr dank. Thank you for you videos, they make me laugh all the time
2:56 So this is where Apple got their modern day business model from.
I had the motorola E398 and that was a brilliant phone. The side speakers lot up with rgb, it sounded great and came with some pretty decent software to convert songs to mp3
Razr always reminded me of Star Trek's Communictors or Tricoders.
I owned one of these back in the day. What a nostalgia trip.
Same here :’)
4:46 Who goes back and edits their post on a random forum NINE AND A HALF YEARS later? Did they wait this long for the phone?? I NEED ANSWERS.
@sendmeadmontelegramtechtan4966 scam
9:36 I think it IS a safe cracker. The second field says "hint".
I had the Motorola SLVR (pronounced "sliver") back in 06-07. It was the candy bar phone version of the RAZR. And I specifically bought it because it had iTunes on it. I could tell, way back in 2005, that at some point in time the folks from Cupertino were going to merge phones and iPods. I saw my fellow college students walk around campus with an iPod in one hand and a cell phone in the other. I still have that phone in a box in the basement... somewhere. If I find it I'll ship it to you Mr. Dank Pod.
This phone really tortured DankPods for 5 months before finally accepting the sim card, only to fail spectacularly at everything else it's supposed to do other than running a worms knockoff with shoddy controls. 10/10 nugget
You should review headphones that came with older luxury cars such as the MayBach
@@Ivannbeats he only needs the headphones not the car
1:05 mate I hate fake PNGs
they are real if you go to the site
ft as
Every once in awhile I click off at the credits without thinking, but then I immediately come back. Don't wanna miss Frank.
This was the best music Phone I ever owned. This has true stereo speakers in it and if you layed it down on a Table this made sound even in the bass area. And you held it right in Front of your face it had a stereo wideness you couldnt get from even some hifi systems. I liked it a lot!
Whilst the phone itself was ... well shit. Slow, clunky (also, that model 1:15 is not the first in line), barely any memory. It was an innovator. Also, the speakers. The design involved in making the speakers of that phone is... out of this world. It doesn't even need a phone vibrator motor, the speakers were used to vibrate the phone. Technologically speaking, it was the future.
7:32 Damn! Who saw that coming??
9:28 : I'm French and Christ, this translation is sooo bad LMAO 🤣🤣
Je me suis dit la même chose 😂🤣
I remember thinking, it would be so cool if you could put on 2 bluetooth earpieces and play music through them both. Little did I know that years later the AirPods would be announced haha!
Highlights of any DankPods video:
1. "Can you believe nobody bought this???"
2. "Come on. Come on. Come on. COME ON!!!"
3. "Arrrrrrrrrrgh, my PKCELL!"
7:32 I had to look at the 1 GRIT to assure it had been five months, it was.
(Not to mention that Crayola piece too.)