@@PickleballStudioI did wanna mention too, edge guards also make a paddle “stockier” so there’s more air resistance. So even with the same balance point, weight, etc etc an edgeless paddle should still swing faster than an edged paddle.
Thanks for the shoutout of our X4 Gold Kevlar! We appreciate all that you do to grow the sport of pickleball and all of the hard work you put in to educate your audience. Kudos.
Great pod guys. I’ve been maining Thompson UNI with a ton of success. You’re spot on about the softer feel than the twill. The low swing weight allowed me to load it up with lead tape and the performance jumps like crazy. I highly recommend weighting it up and giving it another shot. Quick point about the grip. This was my complaint too. I was able to take the original grip off pretty easily and throw a new one on. Also, interesting flow into the discussion on edgeless paddles. The weight of the urethane “edge” makes the sweet spot bigger than any other edgeless paddle I’ve hit
Been using tungsten for a while. I asked the guy at the tennis store, "What's the difference between tungsten and lead?" He said "Tungsten isn't TOXIC." LOL. You sold me, bro.
I like the semi-western in tennis for your forehand but it makes for a junk backhand. Switch your grips at the baseline where you have time and go continental at the net.
I agree with you that Edgeless paddles usually are not as good for most players as ones with an Edge Guard. The Selkirk Luxx (Epic Shape especially) though is an exception as it's pretty stable and has a good sweet spot. With lead/tungsten tape the Selkirk Luxx Epic is one of the best control paddles and very stable.
- forehand to backhand grip change from the baseline should be automatic … if you hit sw forehand, change to cont before hitting backhand. - more extreme grips like sw came about in tennis because of higher bounces that had to be hit in higher strike zone and more out in front because of increased pace in modern tennis. Plastic ball tends to bounce low, which lends itself to cont and eastern forehand grip. A couple of places where you have higher strike zone in pickleball is volley serve and swinging volleys in transition zone. That said, I think it would be a hard case to make that any rec player needed to hit any fh with anything beyond eastern grip. Even on volley serve, strike zone below naval isn’t a high strike zone in tennis terms. Also … a sw serve will get you double pickled. Too soon? 😁 - one thing good for a player (say right hander for this point) that hits a cont fh and a two handed backhand is no required right hand grip change. Cont/eastern (right hand continental, left hand left hand forehand eastern) is one of the more common two handed backhand grips. Steve appears to not be into paddle nerd talk. 🤣
I switched to semi Western grip and it's been a game changer for drives and drive drops, for hybrid style thirds. After changing my grip 3 months ago it feels really foreign to play with a continental grip
I enjoyed the podcast and made it to the kitchen. I have hit my drives with a continental and semi-eastern grip. I need to try out the eastern and semi-western grip to see how much movement/dip that I can get on my drives. I would like to see your video against Travis, Aizec. Aizec, you know that a decathlon is ten events, so Travis and you still need six more sports to do. On your 50th podcast, I would like to see Chris and Will playing a singles match. Chris has to play with a Z5 and Will has to play with a wooden paddle. Have a wonderful week.
Our Cheetah Predion E20 edgeless paddle has a massive sweet spot, similar to the Selkirk LUXX Invikta. But, it is 30% less expensive and .5 ounces heavier. Plus, we provide 3 protective edge strips, so your paddle remains pretty.
Chris … About that “swing slower under control”: I would put it this way. If you ever played against good two handed backhand tennis players, good hard drives matching pace was the norm. But the one that always stood out was the one who could take pace off and hit a sharp dipping crosscourt. Turns out that control/touch shot with a lot of left hand touch is a much higher skill shot than the standard drive. A drill I used learning the tennis two handed backhand (2hbh) with a ball machine was hitting controlled touch cross court trying to land ball near sideline but inside service line. You can’t hit that shot unless you have mastered a lot of 2hbh basics, including being able to vary left arm/hand action. I already had a good looking 2hbh drive (good ball machine 2hbh, you find out that’s not always the same as match ready). This was one of the best drills (ball machine, practice partner better for most things) I did to improve my 2hbh. For example, I found this drill infinitely better than the common drill of hitting left handed forehands. I think in pickleball doubles where that 2hbh left hand control/touch helps the most in 2hbh cross court topspin 3rd shot drop. That shot is all control and touch, but with spin. To me, one handed backhand 3rd shot drops make more sense if not using spin. Post a link to that tennis video if you still have it … and I will watch.
Don't forget about the Prodrive Encounter or the new Veloz paddles very good edgeless paddles, the prodrive is only 1 mph slower than the gearbox power pro per John Kews metrics. Also the new Gearbox ultimate huge sweetspot for edgeless paddle. Chris also try putting the lead tape in three different places on the handle, if you put it in the butt verses middle verses top of handle it changes the balance point differenetly.
I've been playing around with semi-western on serves and it's been a lot of fun! Also, I agree with your take on the balance point discussion even though I haven't tried a slyce cap yet...😂 And finally, the 0.5g tungsten from PE is amazing. I have it double layered on part of my paddle (for the perfect balance) and it looks sooo clean
Pickleball Effect makes some tape specifically for thinner paddles and I've had it on my edgeless DBD Infinity from the start. It's thicker and way more durable than electrical tape. Great stuff. I haven't had a problem with the edge chipping or anything. Plus... that adds a little weight around the edge for stability. I also added a little lead tape. I have no issues with the DBD Infinity sweet spot with this setup. The spin is great too. But I wish it had more power. I really have to kill the ball on smashes and baseline drives to get the velocity I'm looking for, and even then it kinda feels like if falls short in that regard. Love the paddle otherwise though. Love it around the net.
Forcing the semi western and honestly it's really fun! Weak spots are when the opponent hits low. I have a 2 handed back hand which helps but Im trying to block and counter with the tomahawk. Pretty hard I end up defaulting to 2 handed.
Preference and bias are not the same. While a Preference can increase or influence to the point of bias. Bias is often more extreme and discriminatory its important to realize how a Preference will impact opinions but, every reviewer has a Preference they will usually share that doesn't make them biased. Financial motivation can cause a bias.
Chris, why the concern of how fast or slow a paddle “feels” when adding weight to the handle? As you said it’s perception. I’d be curious if you tested 2 paddles, one with a weighted up handle and faster “feeling” balance by recording both and looking frame by frame on how quick you actually swing it. Can a paddle feel fast and actually lower your response time even though swing weights are virtually the same?
Yes, but many return badly. Short returns that bounce a little high give server great opportunity to move forward and attack service returners before they get to kitchen line.
@@JimAssalone the serve return already has an advantage with the person at the kitchen line I think a good serve can be a good way to earn an equalizer. It’s also a situation of high risk high reward
. BIG paddle give away for the 100. I like my THOMPSON UNI. Solid feel at impact. US Labor & materials of the THOMPSON accounts for the high cost. 4.5 hrs to put one together. Mass produced in China with low quality materials, at 2 bucs and hour, of course they're cheaper. That grip had to go for sure. Good points on edgeless vs Not. Before foam edge injecting, guards were coming loose all the time. Get STEVE some meals worms to chase around.
You should make a video like your thousands of back hand videos. Get a lesson on the western semi western grip drive then do a 1000+ video. It may be something you add to your repertoire but would be so funny and fun to watch.
@@VincentK_22yup. Mine was $30 CAD. I got one last March but for the same reason as Chris, to help me flex more at the knees. I have been too upright for longer than Chris though as I'm 66! The added benefit is it makes it easier to split step as the elastics or springs pull your feet higher off the ground. Watch any seniors(or super seniors like me) and you'll see how little we split step.
Gentlemen another great content and podcast, I hold my grip semi western is just muscle memory lol when I used to play alot of tennis, another trainer merchandise if it can be applied to pickleball is for tennis is called the pro_strap
I know this is off topic, but my Ruby is running out of spin. I am interested in the Mach 1 Forza for its spin potential. Would it be a good replacement for the Ruby? I have a tennis background and I hit heavy topspin and slice ground strokes.
100th episode should have a Chris vs Will singles tournament segment for bragging rights until each subsequent 50th or 100th episode. Have a trophy with a "W" or "C" badge added each time and the trophy displayed somewhere in the background on your UA-cam vids. Fans will appreciate the IYKYK tidbit.
58:26 My dominant knee is always so close to touching the ground when using semi western or western grip on forehands. Super demanding grip when it comes to footwork!
Just go to a underground throw for the serve then. That way, nobody can put any speed on it. I feel like pickle ball has looking for issues when there is none, rather than just addressing the one issue which is basic paddle requirements and regulation
Yay. Flick Weight for the win. Thanks for the shout-out Chris. The more we talk to people the more it seems that simplicity in thinking about this stuff is helpful - example: Adding overgrip alone is a small shift Overgrip + Hesacore Overgrip + 1/2oz of buttcap weight etc etc... But definitely interesting that your blind tests show similar results to ours thus far.
Currently playing the M2F 14mm with some tape. Looking for something fast in the hands, with some more power and pop preferably a hybrid shape. Recommendations welcomed :)
So sometimes I'll watch chess pros and their podcasts. Every now and then they'll conduct a lie detector test on one another, asking really entertaining questions that are obviously fun, but also give the audience a closer look at who you are, which is one of the best parts of this podcast. Whether the lie detector tests are legitimate or not, it's still really cool to see. Might be a fun way for some new content for #episode100
How hot can a ~55mph serve be? James Ignatowich is serving rockets on a fucking Selkirk, the paddles aren't the problem. The game is just evolving to a point where people who are more athletic are playing.
This! If the serve is fast and deep, there's not enough time to react to a bad bounce. It's rarely a problem with an X40 (or Core Impact). The other ball I see often is the Selkirk S1, and returns with that against big servers are frustrating.
Serves should be a weapon. They're already limited by how fast a pickleball can go, nerfing serve is dumb. It's an overlooked part of the game right now for those who have ignored improving their serve for far too long
@pickleballstudio De weaponize the serve. But what happens when the return of serve comes back fast. Should we now complain that the return of serve is coming back too fast.
3:55 Yes please let us serve overhand in pickleball 😂 I bet the non-tennis folks’ minds will be blown the first time they see a kick serve. Then they’ll really have something to complain about.
Adding lead or tungsten to the perimeter of an edgeless paddle can result in wider perimeter weight distribution than with an edgeguard because all of the added weight is beyond the dimensions of the paddle. The edgeguard is within the dimension of the paddle face, which means its weight is not as far out as weight added to the outside of an edgeless paddle.
If the handle is too fat or not made right, there’s no way I will buy that paddle because I change my grip from Continental to eastern with one hand on the fly and it’s a handle isn’t made right it’s hard to do and hard to find the sweet spot of my grip
so if they force you to hit the serve not as deep, the return of serve will be CRUSHED way more often. the fix is either with the paddles, or the ball. it's not that hard.
Edgeless paddles should be delisted, I don't think they are taking the sport in the direction we want it to go. It's not the way the originators wanted the game to be played. It was meant to be played with wooden paddles and an original whiffleball. Somebody is going to get hurt with an edgeless paddle because of the smaller sweet spot ..... the control is just not there. This will be the end of pickleball.
Its amazing that the PPA is constantly trying to make the pro level game suited more for their typical old rich entitled demographic that just likes to spend hours dinking back and forth. The future of the sport is going to be dominated by ex-tennis players who will make the game faster and more entertaining to watch rather than watching molasses AKA dink battles
No Chris, “we”have not been complaining about paddles being too hot. On the courts I play on there are a couple weak @$$ whiners that would rather complain than build skill…….. but they are a very very small minority. The same types that don’t want anything to be allowed that makes the sport too difficult for them, want to cap power, spin, serves. They need a separate set of rules where serves are off a tee and you can request a do over if you lose a point. This game really is becoming the joke no-players have always said it was.
A rule that requires adding an arbitrary service line to the literally thousands of existing courts around the world would be horrendous. That is how you hamstring and kickstart the demise of the country’s fastest growing sport.
@@padflash honestly that’s even worse. Imagine aspiring to get better at a sport that’s played with different rules than what you watch on TV. It would destroy the scene.
biggest con of edgeless paddle is you can't scratch your leg with the edgeguard
...The second I read this comment I could literally feel the sensation of what you were describing with edge vs edgeless. 😂 Holy crap haha
On the bright side, you get a cleaner slap on your partners @55
@@PickleballStudioI did wanna mention too, edge guards also make a paddle “stockier” so there’s more air resistance. So even with the same balance point, weight, etc etc an edgeless paddle should still swing faster than an edged paddle.
I like the idea of the extra line because players need more lines to call since there are so good at it (said nobody ever).
Thanks for the shoutout of our X4 Gold Kevlar! We appreciate all that you do to grow the sport of pickleball and all of the hard work you put in to educate your audience. Kudos.
Great pod guys. I’ve been maining Thompson UNI with a ton of success. You’re spot on about the softer feel than the twill. The low swing weight allowed me to load it up with lead tape and the performance jumps like crazy. I highly recommend weighting it up and giving it another shot.
Quick point about the grip. This was my complaint too. I was able to take the original grip off pretty easily and throw a new one on.
Also, interesting flow into the discussion on edgeless paddles. The weight of the urethane “edge” makes the sweet spot bigger than any other edgeless paddle I’ve hit
What grip did you put on instead?
Been using tungsten for a while. I asked the guy at the tennis store, "What's the difference between tungsten and lead?" He said "Tungsten isn't TOXIC." LOL. You sold me, bro.
I like the semi-western in tennis for your forehand but it makes for a junk backhand. Switch your grips at the baseline where you have time and go continental at the net.
9:19 "All these Pickles are just Bananas" You should put that on a shirt 🤣
Maybe memes could splice Gwen Stefani at the end of the statement
I agree with you that Edgeless paddles usually are not as good for most players as ones with an Edge Guard. The Selkirk Luxx (Epic Shape especially) though is an exception as it's pretty stable and has a good sweet spot. With lead/tungsten tape the Selkirk Luxx Epic is one of the best control paddles and very stable.
- forehand to backhand grip change from the baseline should be automatic … if you hit sw forehand, change to cont before hitting backhand.
- more extreme grips like sw came about in tennis because of higher bounces that had to be hit in higher strike zone and more out in front because of increased pace in modern tennis. Plastic ball tends to bounce low, which lends itself to cont and eastern forehand grip. A couple of places where you have higher strike zone in pickleball is volley serve and swinging volleys in transition zone. That said, I think it would be a hard case to make that any rec player needed to hit any fh with anything beyond eastern grip. Even on volley serve, strike zone below naval isn’t a high strike zone in tennis terms. Also … a sw serve will get you double pickled. Too soon? 😁
- one thing good for a player (say right hander for this point) that hits a cont fh and a two handed backhand is no required right hand grip change. Cont/eastern (right hand continental, left hand left hand forehand eastern) is one of the more common two handed backhand grips.
Steve appears to not be into paddle nerd talk. 🤣
Have you guys demoed the new CRBN trufoam?
I switched to semi Western grip and it's been a game changer for drives and drive drops, for hybrid style thirds. After changing my grip 3 months ago it feels really foreign to play with a continental grip
I enjoyed the podcast and made it to the kitchen. I have hit my drives with a continental and semi-eastern grip. I need to try out the eastern and semi-western grip to see how much movement/dip that I can get on my drives. I would like to see your video against Travis, Aizec. Aizec, you know that a decathlon is ten events, so Travis and you still need six more sports to do. On your 50th podcast, I would like to see Chris and Will playing a singles match. Chris has to play with a Z5 and Will has to play with a wooden paddle. Have a wonderful week.
Our Cheetah Predion E20 edgeless paddle has a massive sweet spot, similar to the Selkirk LUXX Invikta. But, it is 30% less expensive and .5 ounces heavier. Plus, we provide 3 protective edge strips, so your paddle remains pretty.
Chris …
About that “swing slower under control”:
I would put it this way. If you ever played against good two handed backhand tennis players, good hard drives matching pace was the norm. But the one that always stood out was the one who could take pace off and hit a sharp dipping crosscourt. Turns out that control/touch shot with a lot of left hand touch is a much higher skill shot than the standard drive.
A drill I used learning the tennis two handed backhand (2hbh) with a ball machine was hitting controlled touch cross court trying to land ball near sideline but inside service line. You can’t hit that shot unless you have mastered a lot of 2hbh basics, including being able to vary left arm/hand action. I already had a good looking 2hbh drive (good ball machine 2hbh, you find out that’s not always the same as match ready). This was one of the best drills (ball machine, practice partner better for most things) I did to improve my 2hbh. For example, I found this drill infinitely better than the common drill of hitting left handed forehands.
I think in pickleball doubles where that 2hbh left hand control/touch helps the most in 2hbh cross court topspin 3rd shot drop. That shot is all control and touch, but with spin. To me, one handed backhand 3rd shot drops make more sense if not using spin.
Post a link to that tennis video if you still have it … and I will watch.
For us one timers, one advantage of edgeless is they are easier on our tennis elbows. I switched to the 6.0 infinity and it really makes a difference.
Simple solution, change the ball from x40 to something reasonable. Indoor style speed wise....
Don't forget about the Prodrive Encounter or the new Veloz paddles very good edgeless paddles, the prodrive is only 1 mph slower than the gearbox power pro per John Kews metrics. Also the new Gearbox ultimate huge sweetspot for edgeless paddle. Chris also try putting the lead tape in three different places on the handle, if you put it in the butt verses middle verses top of handle it changes the balance point differenetly.
I've been playing around with semi-western on serves and it's been a lot of fun!
Also, I agree with your take on the balance point discussion even though I haven't tried a slyce cap yet...😂
And finally, the 0.5g tungsten from PE is amazing. I have it double layered on part of my paddle (for the perfect balance) and it looks sooo clean
Pickleball Effect makes some tape specifically for thinner paddles and I've had it on my edgeless DBD Infinity from the start. It's thicker and way more durable than electrical tape. Great stuff. I haven't had a problem with the edge chipping or anything. Plus... that adds a little weight around the edge for stability. I also added a little lead tape.
I have no issues with the DBD Infinity sweet spot with this setup. The spin is great too. But I wish it had more power. I really have to kill the ball on smashes and baseline drives to get the velocity I'm looking for, and even then it kinda feels like if falls short in that regard.
Love the paddle otherwise though. Love it around the net.
The 4th wide body was the Spartus Apollo
Forcing the semi western and honestly it's really fun! Weak spots are when the opponent hits low. I have a 2 handed back hand which helps but Im trying to block and counter with the tomahawk. Pretty hard I end up defaulting to 2 handed.
Both Aizec and Chris forgetting about the spartus apollo in the widebody lineup, feels bad man.
Ha! That’s what it was. Can’t believe I forgot that.
you should have any paddle you're talking about right there to hold and see
I think you nailed Aizec on why he likes and doesn't like paddles. It takes time to take your preferences out of your comments. :)
Have you guys already tried putting a paddle with a ton of weight near the butt cap in the swing weight tester? I’ve always been curious.
I agree, make an adjustment to the paddles.
Make an adjustment to the ball.
Make an adjustment to my DUPR.
@@HughMungus8 😂
@@brianhansen106 make an adjustment to my bank account, so I can buy more paddles
The edgeless paddle I tried was HUDEF HD6.8. It's made of carbon fiber and Kevlar.
In your Jelly Bean review, please do a direct comparison with the Prism Flash. They always get brought up together.
Chris nailed it at the end. Gotta be able to remove your biases from a review. Chris does that extremely well. Aizec will get there.
Preference and bias are not the same. While a Preference can increase or influence to the point of bias. Bias is often more extreme and discriminatory its important to realize how a Preference will impact opinions but, every reviewer has a Preference they will usually share that doesn't make them biased. Financial motivation can cause a bias.
LOL
Chris, why the concern of how fast or slow a paddle “feels” when adding weight to the handle? As you said it’s perception. I’d be curious if you tested 2 paddles, one with a weighted up handle and faster “feeling” balance by recording both and looking frame by frame on how quick you actually swing it. Can a paddle feel fast and actually lower your response time even though swing weights are virtually the same?
could you please provide another Melin discount code soon? Thank you
What paddle were you using here?
De-weaponizing the serve only weaponizes the return. I really don’t see the issue, hardly anyone misses serve returns .
Yes, but many return badly. Short returns that bounce a little high give server great opportunity to move forward and attack service returners before they get to kitchen line.
@@JimAssalone the serve return already has an advantage with the person at the kitchen line I think a good serve can be a good way to earn an equalizer. It’s also a situation of high risk high reward
Can you talk about the affect of some thicker edge guards on swing weight and sweet spot
Big fan, we gotta get some games for content, that’s be insane 🙌🏽
. BIG paddle give away for the 100.
I like my THOMPSON UNI. Solid feel at impact. US Labor & materials of the THOMPSON accounts for the high cost. 4.5 hrs to put one together. Mass produced in China with low quality materials, at 2 bucs and hour, of course they're cheaper. That grip had to go for sure.
Good points on edgeless vs Not. Before foam edge injecting, guards were coming loose all the time.
Get STEVE some meals worms to chase around.
100th anniversary? Play Pickleball with a pickle from the kitchen line volleying back and forth.
I have a tendency to bring my static weight up and then add More tape to get my balance to between +12 - +14
You should make a video like your thousands of back hand videos. Get a lesson on the western semi western grip drive then do a 1000+ video. It may be something you add to your repertoire but would be so funny and fun to watch.
You should have named your pet Joola for the way he sticks to your shirt
The gravity belt is just a jumping trainer that basketball players use all the time to increase jump strength... you're being fooled Chris
And it is only $30 on Amazon
@@VincentK_22yup. Mine was $30 CAD. I got one last March but for the same reason as Chris, to help me flex more at the knees. I have been too upright for longer than Chris though as I'm 66! The added benefit is it makes it easier to split step as the elastics or springs pull your feet higher off the ground. Watch any seniors(or super seniors like me) and you'll see how little we split step.
Thank you for bringing the dragon 🐉 back 🎉
Gentlemen another great content and podcast, I hold my grip semi western is just muscle memory lol when I used to play alot of tennis, another trainer merchandise if it can be applied to pickleball is for tennis is called the pro_strap
For the 100th episode you should play a game of doubles where all 4 players have to use those wooden monarch starter paddles
I wanna see a bowling video now
100 podcast episode segment. . . Pros v. Joes rematch: Chris using a Z5 and Will playing with the Bigwood with both your faces on the paddle.
Felt really bad for Quang until seeing how he did in doubles lol. GO QUANG
I know this is off topic, but my Ruby is running out of spin. I am interested in the Mach 1 Forza for its spin potential. Would it be a good replacement for the Ruby? I have a tennis background and I hit heavy topspin and slice ground strokes.
Melin hat discount coming again soon ?
100th episode should have a Chris vs Will singles tournament segment for bragging rights until each subsequent 50th or 100th episode. Have a trophy with a "W" or "C" badge added each time and the trophy displayed somewhere in the background on your UA-cam vids. Fans will appreciate the IYKYK tidbit.
58:26 My dominant knee is always so close to touching the ground when using semi western or western grip on forehands. Super demanding grip when it comes to footwork!
Any updates on Spartus Olympus guys?
Just go to a underground throw for the serve then. That way, nobody can put any speed on it.
I feel like pickle ball has looking for issues when there is none, rather than just addressing the one issue which is basic paddle requirements and regulation
Ripping my tungsten tape would drive me absolutely nuts. Scissors all the way lol
Make episode 100 a livestream! Get a bunch of questions (Q&A) and do small events in the stream
Yay. Flick Weight for the win. Thanks for the shout-out Chris.
The more we talk to people the more it seems that simplicity in thinking about this stuff is helpful - example:
Adding overgrip alone is a small shift
Overgrip + Hesacore
Overgrip + 1/2oz of buttcap weight etc etc...
But definitely interesting that your blind tests show similar results to ours thus far.
What about the Slyce cap?
So what's the consensus on high performance paddles at reasonable price? Vatism prism? 11six24 YSF?
Currently playing the M2F 14mm with some tape. Looking for something fast in the hands, with some more power and pop preferably a hybrid shape. Recommendations welcomed :)
Golf is proposing a change in the ball that pros can use to reduce drives by 5%
So sometimes I'll watch chess pros and their podcasts. Every now and then they'll conduct a lie detector test on one another, asking really entertaining questions that are obviously fun, but also give the audience a closer look at who you are, which is one of the best parts of this podcast. Whether the lie detector tests are legitimate or not, it's still really cool to see. Might be a fun way for some new content for #episode100
100 bloopers on the 100th episode
100th episode idea: Fight to the death, winner becomes the podcast host.
How hot can a ~55mph serve be?
James Ignatowich is serving rockets on a fucking Selkirk, the paddles aren't the problem. The game is just evolving to a point where people who are more athletic are playing.
You guys should add an edge guard to edge less paddles and re test against itself
CarbonPickle Pro vs Selkirk Luxx review.
@pickleballstudio pls release a review of the triple j pickleball Judah
What's the limit of added weight that helps with power , no consideration to swingweight
I think weights and balances are also going to be dependent on the strength of the player.
I cut off the Thompson grip 😂 not meant to be removed lol
The fix is the ball, fix the balllllllllll….
This! If the serve is fast and deep, there's not enough time to react to a bad bounce. It's rarely a problem with an X40 (or Core Impact). The other ball I see often is the Selkirk S1, and returns with that against big servers are frustrating.
Serves should be a weapon. They're already limited by how fast a pickleball can go, nerfing serve is dumb. It's an overlooked part of the game right now for those who have ignored improving their serve for far too long
Enhance pickleball has 3g tungsten tape that you can slap on there btws. Problem solved mate👍
@pickleballstudio
De weaponize the serve. But what happens when the return of serve comes back fast. Should we now complain that the return of serve is coming back too fast.
Where is Will these days??? Watched this podcast after a while and was surprised to see someone else instead of WILL
I got easiest solution for the serve... it must bounce in the kitchen on the opposite/diagonal side of the server. Problem Solved.
what's up guys
Those pickle lines are the most confusing thing I've ever seen. I'd hate to play tennis on that court
Pro pickleball with all the rules changing all the time is pussifing the game.
Drop serve master race
Pickleball Game to 100 pts for 100th episode
Give away 100 paddles for the 100th episode. All of the paddles that you have accumulated over the years…they don’t have to be brand new :)
3:55 Yes please let us serve overhand in pickleball 😂 I bet the non-tennis folks’ minds will be blown the first time they see a kick serve. Then they’ll really have something to complain about.
My rotator cuff(from tennis) say no.
Adding lead or tungsten to the perimeter of an edgeless paddle can result in wider perimeter weight distribution than with an edgeguard because all of the added weight is beyond the dimensions of the paddle. The edgeguard is within the dimension of the paddle face, which means its weight is not as far out as weight added to the outside of an edgeless paddle.
That eerie looking creature on the table. I dare Chris to pick it up and put on his shoulder
If the handle is too fat or not made right, there’s no way I will buy that paddle because I change my grip from Continental to eastern with one hand on the fly and it’s a handle isn’t made right it’s hard to do and hard to find the sweet spot of my grip
so if they force you to hit the serve not as deep, the return of serve will be CRUSHED way more often.
the fix is either with the paddles, or the ball. it's not that hard.
Well Frd was using an illegal paddle!
Steve!!!!!!!
the root cause of a deep serve is not a powerful paddle.
no, bad idea for the second baseline
So much bias. Edgeless paddles have better sweet spots compared to gen 1 paddles. Gen 1 paddles die so hard ouside of the sweet spot
Edgeless paddles should be delisted, I don't think they are taking the sport in the direction we want it to go. It's not the way the originators wanted the game to be played. It was meant to be played with wooden paddles and an original whiffleball. Somebody is going to get hurt with an edgeless paddle because of the smaller sweet spot ..... the control is just not there. This will be the end of pickleball.
Its amazing that the PPA is constantly trying to make the pro level game suited more for their typical old rich entitled demographic that just likes to spend hours dinking back and forth. The future of the sport is going to be dominated by ex-tennis players who will make the game faster and more entertaining to watch rather than watching molasses AKA dink battles
But every racquet sport weaponizes the serve. People who says serves are just to start the game don't understand the game
One more line on the court has to be the dumbest idea ever. Even for the pros.
No Chris, “we”have not been complaining about paddles being too hot. On the courts I play on there are a couple weak @$$ whiners that would rather complain than build skill…….. but they are a very very small minority. The same types that don’t want anything to be allowed that makes the sport too difficult for them, want to cap power, spin, serves. They need a separate set of rules where serves are off a tee and you can request a do over if you lose a point. This game really is becoming the joke no-players have always said it was.
good luck swinging a heavy paddle for more than an hour.
A rule that requires adding an arbitrary service line to the literally thousands of existing courts around the world would be horrendous. That is how you hamstring and kickstart the demise of the country’s fastest growing sport.
I don't think this is intended to be a permanent rule change, just PPA pros.
@@padflash honestly that’s even worse. Imagine aspiring to get better at a sport that’s played with different rules than what you watch on TV. It would destroy the scene.
and the Jelly bean isn't impressive. sending mine back. it feels cheap.