I recently got the tko c 12.7 and it is amazing. It has improved my game already. Everything feels so good coming off the face, it has made pickleball even more fun for me. I was coming from a 14mm prism flash so I was worried I would have issues controlling it but it feels even better than the flash.
Another great content and review Dustin of the Bantams TKO-C/CX, I will be leaning towards the TKO-CX 14.3mm version, so many power paddles to choose from the power paddles I have so far is the Hudef Viva Pro Gen 3, Mark Kinetic, Versix Vector XL and Pickleball Apes Pro Line Energy
When you mention high levels or low levels of “pop“ I’m pretty sure I know what you mean. But could you explain how it’s advantageous to some or potentially disadvantages to others.
Thanks for the video! I have the Pursuit Pro EX 6.0, but the grip circumference at 4-3/8 is too large for me. I wish I would have chosen the Pro1 instead which have 4-1/4 grips.
I'm currently demoing a Paddletek Bantam TKO-C 14.3mm. The elongated paddle shape is new for me. I typically play with a wide body paddle. I can't decide if I like the TKO-C enough to buy it.
Great video it's good to see the Engage Pursuit getting more love because the ball feel on this paddle is so awesome that once played with, I don't enjoy other gen 2 paddles anymore. The dwell time adds to control with its power.
@joshuapickett1234 Engage Pursuit Pro MX 6.0, 16mm for me, at least it took very little time to adjust to this paddle, and my drives are far better than any other paddle I've used. It doesn't have the highest pop, but it gives both power and control in exchange. You will love the contact feel.
@joshuapickett1234 because I got to demo it, and reviews of the pro 1 at the time said they were very similar. The Pro 1 was marketed as more power, but most reviews suggested slightly less power in exchange for lower swing weight. Both are very similar, but I knew from the demo that I enjoyed the thicker handle of the MX 6.0, and they did away with that on the pro 1. I also like a heavier swing weight mine with some added lead is at 126.
I put 6 grams on each side on the bottom of the paddle throat up to just below, where most people add weight, which is at 4 & 8 on a clock. My weight is more like 5 & 7 this doesn't add too much to the swing weight but increases the stability, sweet spot, and control with slightly more power from the swing weight. I think a pro 1 would have a smaller sweet spot at the top because of the shape difference. To feel similar to mine. I believe it would need 3 additional grams on each side at 4 and 6, but it won't regain the missing surface area.
How would you compare the feel and characteristics of the Pursuit Pro 1 6.0 versus the Pro MX and a J2K? I really enjoy the feel of the MX but I tend to hit closer to the head of the paddle, however it feels like there is a dead spot outside of the center of the paddle.
Thank you, I hope it's helpful! The owner should get the production level models in in the next couple days, but up until now they literally had only one production model, which I was using as my main, but I shipped it out for John Kew to evaluate for the comparison he is putting out sometime this week, so I haven't had it for a little bit, haha. I'll be very curious to see how the production models compare! Its been one of the more poppy Kevlar paddles I've played with, and was one of the first few 14mm kevlars to be released and was very stable for a 14mm Paddle. It was super manuverable, and I really liked the flex I felt in the handle on attacks and harder shots. My only curiosity in the future will be if it's going to have too much pop in colder weather or when using duras in non-hot weather or something, but especially when it's hot outside or using heavier balls it felt great to me.
I love how Paddletek has you all convinced that it's paddles last longer because they probably won't delaminate. Their paddles were notorious for having edge guards separate from the paddles. These new models may have the same issues over time. Time will tell. Still worth $300.00 plus?
I've been playing with the gearbox paddle for a few months now, and I would say it has a big learning curve for hitting drop shots. If you are playing against people who hit fast and hard returns, dropping will be difficult - so typically I drive first, wait for the weaker return so I can get in a more consistent drop shot with this paddle. Because of the "exponential" power as described in the video, it's important to loosen the grip and put less swing behind the shot based on the power of the return given to you. Love the paddle, great power, hard to master.
I think that's reasonable... it could make an argument for a #5 or #4 spot, depending on preference, but I dont think you can beat the value of the Viva pro gen 3 (price, warranty, return policy, etc) and I think the Mark One is a bit more versatile. But I could see an argument made to have the J2H in one of those spots, based on other perspectives!
I recently got the tko c 12.7 and it is amazing. It has improved my game already. Everything feels so good coming off the face, it has made pickleball even more fun for me. I was coming from a 14mm prism flash so I was worried I would have issues controlling it but it feels even better than the flash.
Another great content and review Dustin of the Bantams TKO-C/CX, I will be leaning towards the TKO-CX 14.3mm version, so many power paddles to choose from the power paddles I have so far is the Hudef Viva Pro Gen 3, Mark Kinetic, Versix Vector XL and Pickleball Apes Pro Line Energy
I friggin LOVE my TKO-CX. It feels and sounds so good. The ball goes so hard. Tons of spin.
When you mention high levels or low levels of “pop“ I’m pretty sure I know what you mean. But could you explain how it’s advantageous to some or potentially disadvantages to others.
Thanks for the video! I have the Pursuit Pro EX 6.0, but the grip circumference at 4-3/8 is too large for me. I wish I would have chosen the Pro1 instead which have 4-1/4 grips.
Yeah the grips are thicker on those models.. one reason why I prefer the Pro1 as well!
Why is the music so ominous lol am I about to be explained an unsolved mystery? Informative video though!
lol! I was thinkgin Friday the 13th music
Doktors Curse
Try the paddle Tellez uses, the Lotto Ultima Pro 14mm, for power and pop it will blow all these away. Now for control, well……and it is loud.
Great review! Would the J7K been around 6 or 7 on this list?
Thank you. Great videos
We need a video on the new release of the Joola MOD TA-15s!
Got the tko-c 14.7. Love it great paddle.
@cindydarling6315
I'm currently demoing that exact Paddletek. Is the paddle over the top loud, in your opinion?
@@AnnMittno I don’t notice it being overly loud at all.
Thanks for the great review!
no problem at all, thanks for the support!
Good stuff. Thank you!
I'm currently demoing a Paddletek Bantam TKO-C 14.3mm. The elongated paddle shape is new for me. I typically play with a wide body paddle. I can't decide if I like the TKO-C enough to buy it.
Great Vid, Sir!!
Thank you very much!!
Great video it's good to see the Engage Pursuit getting more love because the ball feel on this paddle is so awesome that once played with, I don't enjoy other gen 2 paddles anymore. The dwell time adds to control with its power.
@@waynekurtz660 do you play with the 16 mm or 13 mm?
@joshuapickett1234 Engage Pursuit Pro MX 6.0, 16mm for me, at least it took very little time to adjust to this paddle, and my drives are far better than any other paddle I've used. It doesn't have the highest pop, but it gives both power and control in exchange. You will love the contact feel.
@@waynekurtz660 nice, why do you use that one over the new pro 1?
@joshuapickett1234 because I got to demo it, and reviews of the pro 1 at the time said they were very similar. The Pro 1 was marketed as more power, but most reviews suggested slightly less power in exchange for lower swing weight. Both are very similar, but I knew from the demo that I enjoyed the thicker handle of the MX 6.0, and they did away with that on the pro 1. I also like a heavier swing weight mine with some added lead is at 126.
I put 6 grams on each side on the bottom of the paddle throat up to just below, where most people add weight, which is at 4 & 8 on a clock. My weight is more like 5 & 7 this doesn't add too much to the swing weight but increases the stability, sweet spot, and control with slightly more power from the swing weight. I think a pro 1 would have a smaller sweet spot at the top because of the shape difference. To feel similar to mine. I believe it would need 3 additional grams on each side at 4 and 6, but it won't regain the missing surface area.
How would you compare the feel and characteristics of the Pursuit Pro 1 6.0 versus the Pro MX and a J2K? I really enjoy the feel of the MX but I tend to hit closer to the head of the paddle, however it feels like there is a dead spot outside of the center of the paddle.
Awesome video as usual man. Is the Ethos Dunamis still your #1 go to right now? If so, just curious why and what you love about it?
Thank you, I hope it's helpful! The owner should get the production level models in in the next couple days, but up until now they literally had only one production model, which I was using as my main, but I shipped it out for John Kew to evaluate for the comparison he is putting out sometime this week, so I haven't had it for a little bit, haha. I'll be very curious to see how the production models compare! Its been one of the more poppy Kevlar paddles I've played with, and was one of the first few 14mm kevlars to be released and was very stable for a 14mm Paddle. It was super manuverable, and I really liked the flex I felt in the handle on attacks and harder shots. My only curiosity in the future will be if it's going to have too much pop in colder weather or when using duras in non-hot weather or something, but especially when it's hot outside or using heavier balls it felt great to me.
@@PickleballMedicine thank you for the insight! I love crisp paddles and paddles that feature flex technology so should be right up my alley!
I love how Paddletek has you all convinced that it's paddles last longer because they probably won't delaminate. Their paddles were notorious for having edge guards separate from the paddles. These new models may have the same issues over time. Time will tell. Still worth $300.00 plus?
Which model is similar to Engaged Pursuit EX Pro?
You forgot to mention the TKO-CX models have the metal beads in there that are guaranteed to come loose. Major design flaw
Do you have a website or link to your database information by chance?
What is covered under the "life time warrantee"? Will it cover grit weardown? Or only delamination?
Grit wear down is not covered only design flaws
Do you know the spin RPM for the Bantam paddles?
Sure do! Check them out in the database here:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wrkGO13uq69fhBG3Ga9EdEdESb2NYV1v9Q5i44xiIqg/edit?usp=drivesdk
Any update on the discount code for the Engage Pursuit Pro1 6.0
Yes, the code in the video is still good for 20% off.
Muller Coves
Is gearbox good for dropshot?
I've been playing with the gearbox paddle for a few months now, and I would say it has a big learning curve for hitting drop shots. If you are playing against people who hit fast and hard returns, dropping will be difficult - so typically I drive first, wait for the weaker return so I can get in a more consistent drop shot with this paddle. Because of the "exponential" power as described in the video, it's important to loosen the grip and put less swing behind the shot based on the power of the return given to you. Love the paddle, great power, hard to master.
J2H probably should be on that list IMHO
I think that's reasonable... it could make an argument for a #5 or #4 spot, depending on preference, but I dont think you can beat the value of the Viva pro gen 3 (price, warranty, return policy, etc) and I think the Mark One is a bit more versatile. But I could see an argument made to have the J2H in one of those spots, based on other perspectives!
This is the weirdest background music; it’s like being in a really bad acid trip. Horrible choice