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КОМЕНТАРІ • 508

  • @ianlewis9317
    @ianlewis9317 Рік тому +181

    I'm still confused as to how the Infinity even got caught in an ambush in the first place it had Forerunner sensors, shields, and engines. Lasky is shown very competent and even tempered so I find it difficult to believe he just walked face first into a trap.

    • @Thatonepersonyouheard
      @Thatonepersonyouheard 11 місяців тому +46

      The banished had an anti-plot armor gun. If only they could use it more than once

    • @phatdog
      @phatdog 10 місяців тому +10

      He says towards the end that he thinks Infinity was fighting a one of Cortana's Guardian's and was therefore either distracted or injured

    • @devastater97
      @devastater97 10 місяців тому +5

      According to new lore the Banished had stealth vessels stalking the Infinity abd basically knew when and where she would appear. Infinity comes out of slipspace right in the middle of the ambush and is INSTANTLY overwhlemed with two of her escorts going down almost immediately. We don't know what happened to the other 4 frigates escorting the Infinity but its presumed they were either destroyed or retreated before the ring jumped while Infinity crash landed somewhere on the ring.

    • @kilijanek
      @kilijanek 10 місяців тому +5

      @@devastater97 Banished used Forerunner slipspace crystal from the Anodine Spirit (Key-ship). This allowed them not only be ready for ambush, but ambush Infinity with jumping on top of it.

    • @halolasomaster3900
      @halolasomaster3900 9 місяців тому +3

      The Infinity had been running from Cortana for a while and probably low and firepower by the time the Banished ambused them

  • @cplhotpockets
    @cplhotpockets Рік тому +428

    Imma keep it real, i think Infinity's demise was explained basly and done so to rush to the halo ce like feeling of despair abd hopelessness without proper context for how it got to that point

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому +87

      True, they could have at the very least had a mission set on the Infinity right before that opening cutscene fight we got with chief. We hear it take place in the audio logs even. Disappointing stuff.

    • @simply2187
      @simply2187 Рік тому +15

      @@gammacompanymark They planned it, then scrapped it to publish it quicker.

    • @jsamue12
      @jsamue12 Рік тому +6

      @@simply2187 just like they planned to have a finished multiplayer mode

    • @nestorgamer9746
      @nestorgamer9746 Рік тому +5

      ​@@gammacompanymark ironically it would be like escaping the Autumn in C.E. evoking even more that game

    • @Enderguy059
      @Enderguy059 11 місяців тому +1

      Nah. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

  • @lukethomas.125
    @lukethomas.125 Рік тому +139

    15:40 I love your theory on the Infinity destroying that Guardian. It could explain why Infinity's shields might not have been operational and therefore being vulnerable to the Banished Dreadnoughts

  • @TheSlimyServer
    @TheSlimyServer Рік тому +522

    “In FOUR minutes, the Infinity, mankind’s finest achievement, became a memory.” Underrated quote.

    • @BrabyTheCool177
      @BrabyTheCool177 Рік тому +1

      Fr yo

    • @moss8702
      @moss8702 Рік тому +97

      not underrated. Poor writing that made zero sense considering the Infinity was upgrading with Forerunner tech and could take on Covenant capital ships at this point in time.

    • @BrabyTheCool177
      @BrabyTheCool177 Рік тому +8

      @@moss8702 it’s cool tho so who cares

    • @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle
      @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle Рік тому +45

      @@BrabyTheCool177 because it’s literally not cool in the context that it’s being use, it’s not hard to write a cool main bad guy line when you give the bad guy all of the plot armor at the beginning of the game and he destroys everything and everyone 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle
      @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle Рік тому +14

      @@BrabyTheCool177 I guess that’s really an opinion, I just think they could’ve written a cool bad guy quote without crappy writing being the explanation for why it was cool 🫤

  • @JoaoSoares-rs6ec
    @JoaoSoares-rs6ec Рік тому +340

    Until the cannon actually says infinity was destroyed she isn't, she is just missing, we need to remember we never actually saw infinity destroyed

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 Рік тому +46

      My theory is she was forced down on the ring, but I cannot say for sure. A lot was damaged, at least.

    • @JoaoSoares-rs6ec
      @JoaoSoares-rs6ec Рік тому +28

      @@chrissonofpear1384 we know she took heavy damage, that the ring isn't in the same position, what is it the ring was already there our very close to it, that's what we know.

    • @williamalfonso1373
      @williamalfonso1373 Рік тому +37

      further more, we don't even know the whereabouts of captain Lasky. The Wiki says he was escorted to a life boat, which is weird as he would have appeared in the ring as a rallying force or appeared as KIA as a floating corpse.

    • @hunterparke9059
      @hunterparke9059 Рік тому +7

      @@williamalfonso1373what that’s scourged from is the rubicon protocol where a Spartan recounts escorting lasky to a ship.

    • @mk0649
      @mk0649 Рік тому +9

      The Infinity never dies. It only goes Missing In Action.

  • @johnkenley4687
    @johnkenley4687 Рік тому +741

    Of all the ways infinity should have gone down, i don't believe this is how it should have gone. What a shame :/

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому +192

      I agree it was very anticlimactic. It makes sense lore-wise, but I think we should have at least seen the Infinity fight like the Guardian or something, or more of her in the campaign at least.

    • @hartianx1698
      @hartianx1698 Рік тому +61

      @@gammacompanymark Should've had some intro story beats before showing the Banished attacking, such as installing the Weapon on Halo, fighting Prometheans and seeing a Guardian (perhaps the dead one off in the skybox?) having those audio logs of while on the Infinity be cutscenes of what happens before the Banished attacked.

    • @atch4764
      @atch4764 Рік тому +33

      @@hartianx1698 we should have atleast seen the infinity being weakened by something, literally anything, before the banished /killed it

    • @hartianx1698
      @hartianx1698 Рік тому +1

      @@atch4764 Fr

    • @Wimpypumpkin
      @Wimpypumpkin Рік тому +25

      Facts, Most the lore being behind logs in game and reading books killed most of this game.

  • @JohnArceane
    @JohnArceane Рік тому +98

    Once again, an Infinite video is giving me all the vibes of 'put the armament and crew of the Spirit of Fire up against the Banished forces at Zeta Halo for the next campaign.' Hell, I'm not even bent about playing as Red Team necessarily, since we already know 343 is allergic to co-op. I'd love a good build-up game playing as a Spartan survivor like Horvath where you are actually required to upgrade your armor (Horvath's MJOLNIR is essentially inoperable by the end of Rubicon Protocol a few days before Chief is recovered), and the game's climax has you take the fight to the Banished by tearing up another of their Dreadnoughts or three alongside the SOF crew.
    Shit, I should write that video, actually.

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Рік тому

      There might not be a next campaign... but we can hope for one.

  • @selenaautufuga7597
    @selenaautufuga7597 Рік тому +168

    I still find it hilarious how the Banished just straight up rammed three of these things into the Infinity. Just, I am pretty sure that the moment the Infinity came out of slipspace one of them rammed its side and two more followed in the chaos.
    Also... I have been looking at this ship backwards haven't I? I thought the big curved part was the front, but now thinking about it, that is horribly wrong, and I am an idiot.

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому +39

      Nah you're right, the big curved part is the front, its the ram lol.

    • @WolfeSaber9933
      @WolfeSaber9933 Рік тому +8

      Plus, the bow has technology seen in the gravity hammers. And we all know how hard those hit.

    • @gundam2jimmy
      @gundam2jimmy Рік тому +1

      3:54 you can see the engine. So you had it right, curved part is the front.

    • @HwangInhoBooNam
      @HwangInhoBooNam Рік тому +6

      Each of those ships was destroyed in the process at the moment they rammed the Infinity 😂
      That’s why they needed more than one, they knew the ships were gonna be single-use

    • @WolfeSaber9933
      @WolfeSaber9933 Рік тому +3

      @@HwangInhoBooNam That's where the gravity hammer technology comes into play.

  • @robotwithnoname7677
    @robotwithnoname7677 Рік тому +30

    I realized that the book of Rubicon it stated Infinity crashed landed on the planet and Zeta ring teleported into slip space out of nowhere. the bright side is that there is still Huragoks still inside the super carrier and they're known to repair any technology, would that means the Infinity is down not out yet.

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому +15

      Good point, I didnt even consider that!

    • @robotwithnoname7677
      @robotwithnoname7677 Рік тому +4

      @@gammacompanymark also if you look at the ending of Infinite the weapon told chief reinforcements are coming, judging from the time frame the chief was in space for six months and the extra time jump from the harbinger boss fight. the Ship should be finished repairs and commandeered by the few UNSC personnel and Roland has been rebooted back online for service.

    • @rezboifrybread
      @rezboifrybread Рік тому

      Do you know when it said it crashed on the planet? I can only find them saying they don’t know where it is or what happened to it

    • @robotwithnoname7677
      @robotwithnoname7677 Рік тому

      @@rezboifrybread it doesn't say where to be honest but the campaign intro scene showed the Infinity traveling to a distant planet while two Banished ship keep on ramming it and along with the UNSC personnel have not seen a Infinity destroyed wreckage at orbit nor the Ring. it's a good guess to say it crashed landed to the unknown planet surface.

    • @rebelgaming1.5.14
      @rebelgaming1.5.14 Рік тому +4

      ​@@robotwithnoname7677Infinity has survived a crash landing before on Requiem. If any, ANY of her secondary MACs and Coilguns are still online, the Infinity will survive any attempted ground assault. A single surface MAC on Reach was able to stave off an entire Covenant assault force which included a Ket-pattern Battlecruiser, giving time for the Pillar of Autumn to escape. Infinity has 10 of them. 5 on each side. If the ship is still intact, Infinity is going to survive. Even her broken wreckage would prove a formidable opponent. Even completely disabled she has numerous pieces of equipment within that will keep the site safe.

  • @Enderguy059
    @Enderguy059 11 місяців тому +22

    Gbraakon, Lodon, Tiacoro, etc. were different territories on Doisac; the "Ghost of..." dreadnought names are hence named in memoriam of those territories.

    • @royalbluegaming7763
      @royalbluegaming7763 11 місяців тому +6

      I love this. Little hints that Doisac is gone. I always wondered what Ghosts Escahrum was talking about in the first mission

  • @Rick_Eastland
    @Rick_Eastland Рік тому +37

    One thing I really hated with the new story was just how much wasn't explained about how or why you were in the situation you find yourself in Infinite.
    They just expected you to accept what happened and go along with it no questions asked.
    To be clear being in a situation where you don't know everything that happened isn't the issue, it's that they didn't bother with trying to explain why at any point during the story.
    If they explained that the Banished caught the Infinity off guard in a surprise attack, or pounced on it after it was weakened then that would've helped a lot in explaining how the Infinity, Humanity's most advanced ship, was taken down so quickly.
    Sure we see the banished ship ramming the Infinity and causing lots of damage, but we've also seen the Infinity itself survive ramming another ship so the question is how did the banished manage to do that?
    At least your video does a better job than the actual game in explaining possibly how it happened.

    • @Janx14
      @Janx14 Рік тому +4

      Honestly Infinite is far too focused on trying to explain away Cortana (and even then do it poorly) that literally every other plot point just feels like filler.
      Both Escharum and the Habringer are nothing villains who monologue a bit and die. Escharum pointlessly sacrifices his forces despite wanting a 1v1 with chief, which he then holds a hostage during and somehow chief considers him a kindred soul or something. Similarly the Harbinger also seems to be randomly antagonized to chief but also terribly ineffectual, randomly tossing him around instead of misleading him or like i dunno, trying to kill him.
      The Banished themselves seem really weird in motivation, and for being a ragtag mercenary group, serve no one and seem to be able to produce their own custom ships now and take down infinity (despite not being able to take out an old ship with half her crew in HW2).
      There practically isnt a human plot on the ring beyond some audio logs. The forces chief saves have no actual characters. They're just mindless drones.
      But Cortana? Well we got to tease info about her death the whole game, and try to give her some sort of noble sendoff.

    • @ktinga1
      @ktinga1 Рік тому +1

      BuT yOu HaVe To ReAd ThE bOoKs

    • @Janx14
      @Janx14 Рік тому +5

      @@ktinga1 There's not even really books to explain infinite. Heck the books are a mess since 343 keeps course correcting.

    • @proud_emmerian6510
      @proud_emmerian6510 11 місяців тому +2

      Two words: Plot. Armor.

    • @jpatricklloyd7360
      @jpatricklloyd7360 10 місяців тому +1

      Ur right, there should have been another game between Guardians and Infinite. One that showed buildup to the arrival at Zeta Halo and the insertion of the Weapon and cutscenes that showed the Infinity’s million macs and middle pods we never see in action and dropped some Banished hints and small scale encounters with them.

  • @vietnamesenoodle3280
    @vietnamesenoodle3280 Рік тому +36

    Babe wake up, new ship breakdown just dropped

  • @CLNCJD94
    @CLNCJD94 Рік тому +21

    I’ve always thought that the Infinity HAD to have been in a fight against Cortana. It sucks that she was taken out the way that she went, but the thought of a cannibalized Banished Infinity sounds terrifyingly awesome.

    • @joshuaded1052
      @joshuaded1052 10 місяців тому

      Cannibalized? Like going under control and get an upgrade or be taken apart and used as parts

    • @CLNCJD94
      @CLNCJD94 10 місяців тому

      @@joshuaded1052 Honestly, either option sounds crazy.

    • @joshuaded1052
      @joshuaded1052 10 місяців тому

      @@CLNCJD94 yup, I hope it be 1st option so that we have a good chance to bring the infinity back

    • @joshuaded1052
      @joshuaded1052 10 місяців тому

      @@CLNCJD94 but cooler

  • @DiminishedHope
    @DiminishedHope Рік тому +28

    We never fail at our ability to be Brutal.

    • @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle
      @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle Рік тому +4

      Lol, imagine designing a profile around a half-assed faction written by people who didn't even understand halo lore or have any clear direction on how the story should progress...

    • @narrowedblits
      @narrowedblits Рік тому +10

      @@ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle Dogshit take. The Banished has been one of the best ideas Halo has ever had.

    • @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle
      @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle Рік тому

      @@narrowedblits Tell me you don't know anything about pre-343 dogshit halo without saying it...

    • @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle
      @ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle Рік тому

      @@narrowedblits If you have any interest in understanding why they literally could not exist as they do then read the long ass essay I posted lol. It explains what happened to the brutes before 343 took control.

    • @narrowedblits
      @narrowedblits Рік тому +8

      @@ThatOneGuyWhoLostHisHandle The fact that you believe the Brutes remaining as a slave race that goes submissive for the Split Jaws is better than a brutal mercenary organization built for freedom from the Journey's lies is outrageous. You act like it's impossible for a group of pirates who rebelled against the Covenant is impossible when the Heretics in Halo 2 did the exact same thing; only this time it's run and controlled by Brutes rather than Elites. And even then, they explained very clearly that the Banished used the Human-Covenant War to their advantage by conducting raids against Covenant foundries. You act like they got their ships out of thin air when they made comics to go with how they grew; how Atriox expanded his cause and became the big antagonists they are now. You threw all that out the window because you're angry at 343 for merely existing. You're unable to look at anything done right because it wasn't Bungie who did it.

  • @allosaurus_0079
    @allosaurus_0079 Рік тому +26

    it definitely was worth waiting for this you nailed it can t wait to see the next one

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому +3

      Glad you liked it, more stuff's on the way always and forever

  • @kyleleon9301
    @kyleleon9301 Рік тому +30

    Such an amazing channel, hope you continue to blow up in popularity!

  • @Tomahawk1
    @Tomahawk1 Рік тому +12

    Although I'm not a fan of how Infinity went down I can understand why thanks to this video.
    Great work I'll be bingeing your videos now :)

  • @LemanH8r1000
    @LemanH8r1000 7 місяців тому +1

    I think a fallout/elder scrolls type halo game set on Venezia would be awesome! Imagine being able to pick through the covenant races to play as (or just pay as a human if you’re boring.)

  • @pittjedi
    @pittjedi Рік тому +6

    Great breakdown. I have wanted to make a Halo Mega Construx version of this ship. So your video has given me several good views of the ship from different angles that I can now accurately complete the design.

  • @miniaturejayhawk8702
    @miniaturejayhawk8702 Рік тому +8

    From what I am hearing here the dreadnoughts are basically heavily armed and armored colony ships similar to the akkan battlecruiser from sins of a solar empire, just like the spirit of fire.

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому +2

      An apt comparison, yep. For AGGRESSIVE colonization.

  • @jamestheviking983
    @jamestheviking983 Рік тому +1

    Hey, this video was great. I’ve loved the past few I’ve seen from you. I find it pretty odd that UA-cam took so long to put you in my recommendations, but I’m glad it did!

  • @julianjames2899
    @julianjames2899 6 місяців тому

    Man i get a kick out of just how charismatic you are when presenting these videos. Well done!

  • @ambititer6867
    @ambititer6867 Рік тому +14

    It's actually not hard to imagine that the banished could take this ship down. Fights have been won against bigger odds in the halo universe.

  • @A_Humming_Bird
    @A_Humming_Bird Рік тому +8

    Personally, I always hated this bit on the Infinity.. humanities Arc, Flagship of power and technological marvel.. broke to a fucking ramming..
    But her sister is out there somewhere, the UNSC Eternity will come eventually..

    • @RicardoPerez-rz8pu
      @RicardoPerez-rz8pu Рік тому

      Wasn't that ship still being built or have already being scrapped already ?

    • @A_Humming_Bird
      @A_Humming_Bird Рік тому

      @@RicardoPerez-rz8pu the Eternity was almost finished by H4, but after the events of in 4 parts of Eternity had to cannibalized to get infinity back into service. After the war with the of 5 and following up to Infinite.. the Eternity could be finished because she and the infinity were built in a location hidden from most enemies.

    • @rebelgaming1.5.14
      @rebelgaming1.5.14 Рік тому

      ​@@RicardoPerez-rz8puEternity was under construction. In Infinity's 2558 Refit, prefab modules from Eternity were used to return her to service much faster. Considering the Super MACs of Eternity were used to upgrade the Infinity, I have no doubt that the vessel was mostly complete, as all 4 of those MACs are in the uppermost portion of her hull. And if we're following classic shipbuilding rules that would be the last sections to be assembled.

  • @brandonR.E
    @brandonR.E Рік тому +1

    No my new friend.. that was not fucking stupid. That was a solid giggle from me 🎉

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Рік тому +4

    All of that extra manufacturing stuff makes this ship slightly more impressive than I thought.

    • @joshuaded1052
      @joshuaded1052 10 місяців тому

      Yeah I thought it was the standard military battle ship brute fashion but Atroix is different from the other brutes

  • @vincentgregory1470
    @vincentgregory1470 Рік тому

    I'm loving your conversational approach to these breakdowns. Keep it up man!

  • @TheLg01
    @TheLg01 Рік тому +2

    i love the design of the dreadnaught it just fits the banished so well

  • @techypriest7523
    @techypriest7523 Рік тому +69

    Let's all agree: if the Infinity had its cruiser/destroyer escort, it would've ended very differently....

    • @Cobravenom69
      @Cobravenom69 Рік тому +43

      if the banished didnt have plot armor it would have ended very differently.

    • @Nevermore-eq9lx
      @Nevermore-eq9lx Рік тому +22

      I can see the infinity being destroyed. Being overwhelmed is a thing, but in four minutes is just sloppy writing.

    • @Cobravenom69
      @Cobravenom69 Рік тому +14

      @@Nevermore-eq9lx I mean. We see the infinity come out of slipspace ram a giant covie ship then proceed to take on that fleet with no issues. In the H4 campaign we see the infinity with its shields down get ambushed and boarded by another covie fleet aided by the didact using his forerunner ball ship thing and his promethean knights, and again with the chiefs help not only repel the mixed boarders of covies and Prometheans but also beat back the didact and his ball but also take out a few covie ships and force the rest to retreat. The infinity should not have been defeated by the banished. Unless they brought dozens and dozens of ships, sent 10's of thousands of boarders and lost 80% of their fleet before finally overrunning the infinity. That is assuming they are as strong as the covies/Prometheans, but if we look at infinites gameplay and hW2, we see the spirit of fire and its skeleton crew not only survive against the banished and Atriox himself but actually beat him back too, and they are one 30 year old ship filled with a skeleton crew. The banished are way to over hyped in their lethality and competence to wage war. They should not have won that battle. Given all we know about them they wouldnt have, if not for the plot armor.

    • @laurenfazenbaker9777
      @laurenfazenbaker9777 Рік тому +9

      I mean...Spirit of Fire was a moth balled relic colony ship with half a crew, low tech, no shields, no real weaponry and no slip space drive but they spanked Atriox and the Banished, but the Infinity couldn't?
      Make that shit make sense. All the Banished had to do was pull a dreadnought out of their ass and ram the Spirit of Fire according to 343's garbage lore

    • @Cobravenom69
      @Cobravenom69 Рік тому +1

      @@Baldwin-iv445 what are you trying to argue? That one 30 year old human ship can outmaneuver and out power a covie super carrier so somehow it makes sense 4..banished Dreadnoughts can over power the strongest most advanced ship in the UNSC that could take on fleets of covies by itself? And in just 4 minutes? Im not really understanding what your arguing here.

  • @haydnplaysgames
    @haydnplaysgames Рік тому +1

    Strong opening for the video. Good job!

  • @Admiralreeder
    @Admiralreeder Рік тому +14

    I just hate that in the lore the infinity was the most powerful ship ever (aside from forerunner ones), and it went down in four minutes thanks to a ship that was made by a brand new faction pulled out of the hat of 343 industry’s. Plus freaking MONKEYS made the ship. Just stupid to me.

    • @FrostbiteDigital
      @FrostbiteDigital Рік тому

      You know what is stupid? Getting angry over the fact that the Banished are a great faction and one of 343's best ideas to date. Plus freaking MONKEYS are awesome and are shown to be a brutal empire. Just stupid to me

    • @Admiralreeder
      @Admiralreeder Рік тому

      I can agree that the banished are the greatest thing 343 brought to halo. But my point was not that, it was the rushed death of the infinity.

    • @FrostbiteDigital
      @FrostbiteDigital Рік тому

      @@Admiralreeder My guy you literally implied that they're terribly done and came out of the hat of 343 out of nowhere...

    • @Admiralreeder
      @Admiralreeder Рік тому

      Cuz i was mad that it was such a rushed death for the infinity.@@FrostbiteDigital

    • @BigJMC
      @BigJMC 11 місяців тому +2

      I don’t think anyone would consider 4 ships doing a ramming run on the infinity because that would be seen as crazy. Just because a ship is the strongest doesn’t mean it’s going to be the most defensible. There’s a reason the infinity is always seen with escorts and always stay behind lines. Plus 4 minutes makes so much more sense then 20 minutes or so, the banish never play defensive and cautiously like the UNSC and Covenant do, they make bold moves and they do it fast and swiftly.

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain Рік тому +2

    the Banished literally pulled an 40k Imperial Navy Flex.

  • @MrEsphoenix
    @MrEsphoenix 7 місяців тому

    The Infinity got done dirty. It was such an interesting ship, and I feel we didn't see enough of it where it wasn't disabled or in trouble. It is more satisfying to think it managed to go toe to toe with a guardian and win before being jumped by the banished and destroyed, though. The Banished are a great new enemy, but they should never have been able to take out the infinity so easily. Maybe an animated movie or series would be good to fill the gaps between 5 and infinity.

  • @Grimpy970
    @Grimpy970 Рік тому +6

    The ramming tactic would buckle the ship and turn every single occupant to liquid from the gee-forces. This was shown during the fight with mendicant bias shortly after the halo array was fired. If the forerunners couldn't keep their crew from turning to liquid, the banished sure as shit cant.
    They've been buffed with so much plot armor that they literally outshine the forerunners in many ways. Being able to breathe flood spores and even crush infectors in their bare hands makes the concept of the halo rings, and therefore the premise for 'Halo' moot. These characters are so overpowered and poorly written that they undercut the foundation of every single story ever told about 'Halo'.
    I'm sick to death of this minor faction being elevated above all others for literally no reason. 343 killed halo, and I don't think that's something I can ever forgive.
    It would be like if someone decided to make a new lord of the rings trilogy, but having some minor force like the goblins be completely unfazed by sauron or any of the rings of power's many effects. It's hardly honoring the wishes of the last writer, and spits in the faces of anyone who genuinely likes the old story.
    You cannot enjoy the first 3 halo stories while enjoying the last 3. They're diametrically opposed to each-other. The stories told and the logic behind every character's choices are mutually exclusive between the two dev teams. None of the choices or concepts in the first games make any sense because of all the retconning of the last ones. They killed halo, and people are just eating it up. They killed the concept and necessity of the rings and the forerunners sacrifice.
    Brutes are now immune to the flood and somehow smarter than humans, prophets, or even forerunners. Their ships are stronger than the one that killed Mantle's Approach, which means that the brutes could easily take out a forerunner ship as well. By that logic, the brutes should have conquered the galaxy a long time ago.
    It's a load of shit and I'm tired of people acting like it's inspired writing.

  • @doubt3430
    @doubt3430 Рік тому +1

    they chucked dreadnoughts through it
    that is indeed a way to take down a bigger dreadnought

  • @DarthDragon007
    @DarthDragon007 10 місяців тому

    Esharm: I wish I could say it was difficult...
    Me: Yall straight up ambushed the Infinity my dude. Not to mention there was other factors that led to your victory.

  • @shaftoe195
    @shaftoe195 Рік тому +1

    Got it, no longer giants, back to being on the backfoot...

  • @sapphirecoyote4277
    @sapphirecoyote4277 Рік тому +1

    great video guys :)

  • @GallowayJesse
    @GallowayJesse Рік тому +1

    Bungie lore: space combat is 4d chess
    343 lore: RAMMING SPEED

  • @Spendingryan
    @Spendingryan Рік тому

    That transition between we are the giants now, and halo infinite was awesome dude!

  • @henrydimmock2691
    @henrydimmock2691 Рік тому +2

    As depressing as the destruction of the infinity is, it's sister ship the eternity was under construction over earth during the custode's EMP meaning it is theoretically rescuable.

  • @PrincessNeroVT
    @PrincessNeroVT Рік тому

    You are one of my new favorite halo lore channel!

  • @da_riceboy161
    @da_riceboy161 Рік тому +3

    The Banished: *Gagglefucks the Infinity.*
    Also the Banished: *Hyper sweats when the OLDEST UNSC SHIP THERE IS appears.*
    Can someone tell me how that fucking logic works?

    • @user-lc5of7jh5g
      @user-lc5of7jh5g Рік тому

      I think it's because they jumped the infinity

    • @FrostbiteDigital
      @FrostbiteDigital Рік тому

      I can tell how how logic works. It's because you're arguing in bad faith. The Infinity and the Spirit of Fire had two COMPLETELY SEPARATE SITUATIONS HAPPENING. If the roles were reversed the Spirit of Fire would've shared the same fate as the Infinity did

    • @SeraphimGuy
      @SeraphimGuy 4 місяці тому

      Excuse me sir but what is "gagglefuck"

  • @firefax69lol38
    @firefax69lol38 Рік тому +5

    I just dont get this. I get the the covenant were backwards but come on. Youre telling me a race that nuked itself to the stoneage can just suddenly invent a ship that can take down the infinity.

    • @CHRF-55457
      @CHRF-55457 Рік тому

      You basically need to lob a whole ass moon at the Infinity just to cripple it.

    • @firefax69lol38
      @firefax69lol38 Рік тому +2

      @@CHRF-55457 I think what I don't like is that humanity is once again being dominated. I feel like they really could've went for the arms war here. Where we and the banished are pretty much equal and the war is mostly about who can innovate faster. As it stands rn is (Oh hey yeah you one dude save everything again). Which could've worked if we actually got a halo 6 showing how we got fucking obliterated in the created wars.

  • @matt247even
    @matt247even 7 місяців тому

    Nowhere has infinity been confirmed destroyed. She took a beating but until we see confirmation shes gobe .. then shes still alive. Probably stuck on part of the ring waiting for the MasterChief to flip it the right way up so she can get herself back in space

  • @loganh2692
    @loganh2692 Рік тому +2

    Considering the fact that the guardian was crashed on the ring it wouldn’t surprise me to the slightest that the infinity was hurt severely after the fight. So if the banished got the drop on infinity then it would absolutely make sense that it would loose the fight. However if the dreadnought is fast enough then it presents the possibility that the UNSC can’t hit them at long ranges with MAC shots.

  • @hetzer5926
    @hetzer5926 9 місяців тому

    It makes more sense that the banished got lucky and managed to stumble upon a damaged Infinity. Because I don’t see the Infinity going down in just a couple minutes without destroying at least one of those in the process.

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto 3 місяці тому

    7:14 Gorillas can and sometimes do eat meat. Usually nothing bigger than a squirrel.

  • @ruufiss9922
    @ruufiss9922 Рік тому +1

    i kind of wish we got to see the whole fight, like game starts out explaining the plan with "the weapon" to chief and herself from captain lasky or even lord Hood. then boom it all happens and you run through the ship killing banished to help marines and Spartans escape. and then on your way off you head to the hanger where the actual infinite cutscene takes place

  • @Nara.Shikamaru
    @Nara.Shikamaru 11 місяців тому

    RIP, Mark G-313. 🙏🏽🪦

  • @Just-vibin-51
    @Just-vibin-51 Місяць тому

    5:30 ah yes, “it fucking kerspoded”

  • @kaiserblood6880
    @kaiserblood6880 Рік тому +1

    The Spirit of Fire lives on.

  • @jamesvincentdones4292
    @jamesvincentdones4292 11 місяців тому

    The banished Army tour

  • @williamtaylo9151
    @williamtaylo9151 Рік тому

    They were in the universe ever since halo wars two

  • @Duke_of_Petchington
    @Duke_of_Petchington Рік тому +2

    Everything about the infinity’s neutralisation was dumb, I could understand if they’d disable it and it crash lands PoA style in CE, but outright destroying it was pointless (especially when considering that infinity has a sister, which completely nullifies the loss).

    • @DarthDragon007
      @DarthDragon007 10 місяців тому

      A sister which by all accounts should end up actually being superior to Infinity as well. Alot of the tech on the Infinity came from Eternity, meaning that Eternity now has more time to be upgraded even further.

  • @bennuredjedi
    @bennuredjedi Рік тому +6

    Again, another 343 screw up. Why destroy the Infinity in the first place, for shock and awe or desperation!? So Cortana committed suicide (stupid) then the "valuable " asset in the UNSC Navy (which was just introduced in H4 btw) gets flamed in the first minutes of the game, where were all the escorts and other support forces, also what happened to Roland? (The answers have to make sense) and instead of having a true space battle she gets rammed, makes no sense! A space battle that's simultaneous to a land campaign would have been a great opener this could have lead to expansion of the game with dlc (i.e. ODST's deploying to a nearby planet to perform ops alongside FT Osiris or Crimson? There just so much that could have been done right by 343 that wasn't and it showed after the release of the game. Also why in the great galaxies that the Infinity Class didn't have energy projectors as a main armament along with the Series 8 MAC'S but then introduced a Frigate with the Reflex laser? 343 is just outdated for the Halo franchise and if Microsoft don't wake up to realize that then this franchise is done! Come on Mass Effect 4!!!

    • @hartianx1698
      @hartianx1698 Рік тому +2

      Because they were pretty much scrapping everything they did that people complained about in their other Halo games? Hence why they shift all the designs back into the Halo 3 era even for their ships because people just screamed that Humanity not actually being able to put their best foot forwards and develop their technologies for 4 years after Halo 3 and with the help of human sympathetic aliens is apparently too much to handle so they hit the universal reset button twice now to achieve that and of course people then complain that 343i listened to their complaints instead of just barreling ahead despite them on the off chance they might have grown the fuck up and gave attention to the story they were wanting to set up that they then scrapped to appease them? (in the words of the perpetually stuck in 2010s I have seen across youtube and reddit)

  • @kilijanek
    @kilijanek 10 місяців тому

    Mark, my bet is Atriox used slipspace crystal from Anodine Spirit (Key-ship from Halo 3, left on the Ark) to jump on top of Infinity while it has dealt with Cortana. That would lower their battle ready stance and cause them not to expect attack. Then out of nowhere (with Forerunner infused slipspace, skipping sensor range of Infinity) those dreadnoughts appear around Infinity and accelerate for ramming speed. First one rams, deploys troops inside Infinity, then second and third. Infinity is overrun with boarding troops and abandon ship order is issued.

  • @bikernumber7180
    @bikernumber7180 6 місяців тому

    5:14 Sol* We've gotta get that ball rolling eventually ;)

  • @space_artist_4real138
    @space_artist_4real138 Рік тому

    Ah my god the first 2m19s, pure cinematic candy

  • @Bruno-G
    @Bruno-G 9 місяців тому

    She is designed to be fully operational even if 80% of the hull is compromised, just like the pillar of autumn . I do believe she is not "destroyed" but indeed took heavy damage and was forced to crash land on ZH or maybe even managed to slipspace back to earth, somewhere for repairs, which is possible because we only see her bow being destroyed, but the engines could *THEORICALLY* still be in good condition, not enough for a long trip for sure but for a small emergency jump as they did in Halo 5

  • @tehswordninja4915
    @tehswordninja4915 Рік тому +2

    god it would have been so fucking awesome to see these things deploying halo wars 2 style bases and units but nope. cannot believe 343 did the banished so dirty. wheres the blisterback, reaver, marauder, scarb, etc?? infinite had a great opportunity to finally expand the dynamics of halo's vehicle combat while including some bomb ass units from halo wars, and it dropped the ball. oh well
    and to be clear i think this ship type is pretty rad. maybe they were made a bit too quickly for my tastes in the timeline, but the overall idea of a brute version of the spirit of fire is awesome.

  • @talioli1666
    @talioli1666 Рік тому +3

    So lame how they just poorly wrote out the infinity

  • @yugene-lee
    @yugene-lee 7 місяців тому

    If that is a giant gravity hammer on the front, it really is no wonder it absolutely demolished the Infinity's hull

  • @NatorGreen7000
    @NatorGreen7000 Рік тому +1

    love the edit

  • @freddyfrog70
    @freddyfrog70 9 місяців тому

    one of the best things 343 made in their run was the infinity, it was one hell of a ship, especially that cutscene where she comes out of slipspace, rams a CRS light cruiser, ploughing it in half. then immediately picks a fight with an entire covenant fleet.
    And they did this to her. a god damn ship thrown together by orangutans with a god damn monkey wrench, took it out in 4 minutes. aint no way. stop giving atriox plot armour.

  • @xshadowxlegionx
    @xshadowxlegionx Рік тому

    6:33 no shit Genius😂 unless you left heavy shit like this on your daily workout

  • @tssteelx
    @tssteelx 7 місяців тому

    The fighter level in reach is tons of fun.

  • @FBI-ju5no
    @FBI-ju5no Рік тому +1

    Wish there was more info on the Banished navy.
    Would love ship breakdowns on the unique craft.

    • @Lazypackmule
      @Lazypackmule Рік тому

      This is basically the only unique craft, everything else is just covenant hand-me-downs painted red

    • @FBI-ju5no
      @FBI-ju5no Рік тому

      @@Lazypackmule
      The karves, drekars, ect.

    • @Lazypackmule
      @Lazypackmule Рік тому

      @@FBI-ju5no I'll give you the karve, but the drekar is still technically a covenant ship

    • @FBI-ju5no
      @FBI-ju5no Рік тому

      @@Lazypackmule
      One which either wasn't used by the covenant, or the Banished have their own version of, which would be unique.
      I find myself fascinated by the Banished's design choices, so breakdowns on their stuff is pretty exciting to me.

  • @vincentv8991
    @vincentv8991 9 місяців тому

    should of had us fight to save the infinity and lose, give us a flood feeling like halo 1 where the player is invested in the tone of the story

  • @thejuggernautofspades9453
    @thejuggernautofspades9453 7 місяців тому

    The choppers are tractors with guns
    So yes the brutes are omnivores or herbivores

  • @Nick-bk7es
    @Nick-bk7es 10 місяців тому

    Honestly wish they made the Infinity put up more of a fight. actually make it up to the Hype that surrounded it for a long time

  • @barrycabbageM34
    @barrycabbageM34 Рік тому

    I get that they were trying to Mimic the feeling of hopelessness and isolation we got in CE but the supposed destruction of the Infinity is hard to be satisfied with given what is displayed in-game/in-cutscenes, had they shown us the expanded combat abilities of these ships instead of JUST the ramming aspect It might have been more believable.
    I'd also like to note It'd have been VERY cool of the ships were dynamic in the singeplayer.. like if you spend too much time or make enough of a ruckus in a specific area one of the ships would fly over and loiter above, increasing the strength/level of Banished troops in the area while also providing supports like Banshee patrols, Drop Pods, increased reinforcement and the like.

  • @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
    @East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 8 місяців тому

    12:25 The attack would be Zen-Headbutt.

  • @mysteriousstranger5873
    @mysteriousstranger5873 10 місяців тому

    343 *reeeeally* needs to make a ship strategy game. Think about it, each faction now has their own trademark ship weapon. UNSC has the mac guns, which are powerful, dumb fire single shot weapons, covenant has the glassing beams, which are more damaging than the mac guns but need closer range, the guardians/forerunners have an emp blast, and now the brutes have a battering ram. This would also be the perfect chance to let us actually play through the battle of zeta halo and not just tell us about it. (Though it should still wind up in a fps campaign sinner or later)

  • @basedeltazero714
    @basedeltazero714 10 місяців тому

    9:20 If I had to guess, I'd say that's a plasma cannon cluster.

  • @bruhurnub1249
    @bruhurnub1249 10 місяців тому

    Still waiting for Eternity to finish it's construction 🔥

  • @karylledones548
    @karylledones548 9 місяців тому

    if that's the case they will make 3 campaigns story, 1 Master chief campaign 2 the banished campaign 3 the endless campaign

  • @Traven158
    @Traven158 10 місяців тому

    Who would win in a fight:
    The greatest warship of the UNSC Navy, created over the course of decades and using reverse engineered technology from one of the most advanced civilizations to ever exist.
    Or
    The power of monke

  • @kirby7294
    @kirby7294 10 місяців тому

    Nice opening edit

  • @erdervv
    @erdervv Рік тому

    I doubt it's the answer but scindere is an italian word that means to split, divide, or sunder.
    Considering the number, i'd say it's some kind of AA or point defense.

  • @Giddog40
    @Giddog40 Рік тому

    I am still thoroughly unconvinced that the Infinity is down and out just yet

  • @criminalcypher2024
    @criminalcypher2024 Рік тому

    bro halo has some of the best names for ships ive ever heard ngl

  • @mysteriousstranger5873
    @mysteriousstranger5873 10 місяців тому

    It was a huge missed opportunity to fight on the infinity as it went down

  • @tdofducksplays
    @tdofducksplays 10 місяців тому

    I hope that Infinities sister ship that was being built then had its construction halted, was continued but as a true combat ship and not a mixed ship.

  • @blakjewellio1407
    @blakjewellio1407 11 місяців тому

    7:12 I believe I heard somewhere from an official source that the brutes are ursine like bears, at least some of them

  • @phuoctranminhbao1178
    @phuoctranminhbao1178 Рік тому

    2:35 you're god damn right

  • @games_hi
    @games_hi Рік тому +2

    nice

  • @JellyFishghostsman
    @JellyFishghostsman 7 місяців тому

    Metanerdz is a breakdowner of halo

  • @ODSTBUCK1337
    @ODSTBUCK1337 Рік тому

    The only channel that does more ship break downs that I’m aware of is installation 00, they do heavy break downs, they are even building an actual spartan lore armor, so yeah you should check them out

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому +3

      I've been a subscriber of theirs for years lol, they were the primary inspiration for this channel.
      HOWEVER I have done more SHIP breakdowns, even though he's done more general breakdowns of Halo stuff (And his videos are waaaay better than mine).

  • @lankylad8244
    @lankylad8244 Рік тому +3

    Can we standardise our ship lengths in warthog runs?

    • @gammacompanymark
      @gammacompanymark  Рік тому

      That would be hilarious I will credit you for the idea.

  • @gloccry2184
    @gloccry2184 Рік тому +2

    Maybe a breakdown on the UNSC carriers?

  • @ZLAWGER1214
    @ZLAWGER1214 Рік тому

    Infinity to me the way it went down was just so weird it was just a massive and powerful ship I feel it should’ve been extremely weakened before the banished pinned her because that’s the only way she could’ve gone down like the Bizmark went down he died taking many ships with him but the only reason he went down was from a later attack that weaken him so he wasn’t at full power and the reason I use he is because Germans is he with there ships but infinity should’ve gone down in a somewhat similar way instead of being just demolished but it did show that humanity’s prize their best ship tech wish was beaten by some ramming ships sized up ten fold it’s ironic a technological advanced ship and was the best of her time while brutes built a massive battering ram to take her down and it showed that the brutes and banished were a threat and made us feel worthless compared to them it gave us a reason to actually be fear full of the banished

  • @k.s.7045
    @k.s.7045 Рік тому

    Nice job!

  • @IncarnateSable
    @IncarnateSable 10 місяців тому

    343 making the Infinity: This ship is the best ever, it can put a hole in the most powerful Forerunner ship we've ever seen
    Also 343: Monke kill in 4 minute lol

  • @MrHturtle99
    @MrHturtle99 11 місяців тому

    The first mission on halo infinite should have been you defending then escaping the infinity, while trying to save fireteam crimson from halo 4 and a handful of technicians and Marines. Too bad 😢

  • @penitent2401
    @penitent2401 Рік тому

    I think the grav-impact driver is like a mining laser like the one on scarabs

  • @wackswavy4k
    @wackswavy4k Рік тому

    I do agree with the comments that the infinity shouldn't have gone down this way but from the viewpoint of a naval battle the infinity didn't really have a chance. I think it would have been more satisfying narritavely if we actually saw the battle with the guardian (if that is what happened)

  • @Ser_Matticus
    @Ser_Matticus Рік тому

    I almost feel like Atriox saw the Spirit of fire and thought he could do better. Even if these things were designed before the induction to the hegemony

  • @BrabyTheCool177
    @BrabyTheCool177 Рік тому

    7:10 we know that some of em eat humans. Like Ik’novus the devourer

  • @laurenfazenbaker9777
    @laurenfazenbaker9777 Рік тому

    It succeeded.
    Kind of Bollocks how it went down in such anti- climactic fashion, especially since it was supposed to have all this top grade Forerunner tech. Why tf did 343 even bother making the Infinity since it was so useless both as a weapon of war and plot point?
    Infinity rams right through a Covenant cruiser without a scratch like a hot knife through butter, but basic gorillas with low tech ( according to the lore...barely space faring due to the civil war on their planet when found by the Covenant, not even able to go further than their own moons) and speech capabilities manage to reverse engineer Forerunner tech being non Reclaimers, and unable to access anything Forerunner because they don't have the DNA imprint to gain access....they just pulled a ship out of their ass capable of destroying the Infinity in 4 minutes.
    No wonder the latest 343 Halo release bombed so hard. Even in the realm of sci-fi fantasy, that seems like total BS. So much so that 343 knew it and glossed over the events of the Infinity's destruction and left sooo many relevant plot points to the story out because they couldn't logically mortar it together with bullshit.