If you think this is cool…you’ll love the video with Sterling Marlins 1995 Daytona 500 winning car! (Side note if anyone has some Brodix 867 Pontiac heads they’d sell…email us 😂) Stapletonautoworks.com
A-1 Performance warehouse in Monmouth Illinois has two sets for sale. Saw them listed on eBay for $750 for a set with 2.125 inch dia intake valves and 1.60 exhausts and the other set was $500 but I didn’t look into the specifics on that set other than looking at the pics. The pics of the cheaper set looked like the chamber’s were pretty oxidized but that’s really no big deal. If you end up getting either set of those heads, look into getting the matching intake to go with them. Been down that road myself with 18 degree small block heads. The 18 degree stuff I use has a raised runner and different bolt pattern than factory 23 deg sbc stuff and the flange and bolt holes are also different angles than factory. If you want a setup that can really flow some air, I mean serious velocity with good volumes they’re the way to go. Had to hop back to the message to say I made it to the end, nice collection of exhaust parts. About the Penzoil, I’ve just always had good luck with it in my flat tappet engines since my first sbc. Been so many years since I looked up the specs on their oils but I do remember reading about the zinc content in theirs which is the reason I still use it for flat tappet stuff. Oils without the lubricity and imbedment of that zinc kill lifters in no time followed by the cam very shortly after.
A set of those heads with Titanium valves ran about $20,000 in the early 1990's. I was an apprentice from 18-21 in a race engine shop from 1990 - 1993 and we did high end class exploitation for guys running short tracks. 5/8-3/4 mile short tracks. We ran zero gap rings and only the top ring sets with short compression height pistons and the longest rods we could put in the engine.
I would love to sit around for some of their stories , the shop tour video really shows their progression in Nascar . The #4 Kodak car is such an Icon of the times when nascar was at its peak . I miss those days but I remember them like it was yesterday. You and Logan are the dynamic duo keeping the history alive , thanks guys.
@@ryanbrown4336 agreed. But it seems like back then. We didn’t see the inside of the shops that much. It was all a mystery. Unless u saw them on an episode of “Inside Winston Cup Racing” on a Sunday Morning on TNN. But it still showed very little. Maybe the cars sitting all lined up. So all this is New and Amazing. Finally getting some questions answered!!😂
I don't know that we can fully appreciate the amount of knowledge these McClure videos have given us. The engineering, R/D and testing that these guys did/do is absolutely incredible. These videos are priceless 🙏🏻
The simplicity of the engine, but the extreme attention to detail makes this so fascinating. Throwing money at it doesn’t always work, and the nascar rules really made the fab guys think about every aspect to grab any HP they can. Tuning and fab work is such a joy to do.
You don’t get the inside information without a lot of effort to get it and you deserve a lot of credit for the effort. We get to enjoy the history so thank you.
That was an epic amount of work on those heads and intake. One of my buddies was crew chief for a touring car team in the 80’s. He told me they had a turbo heat shield that was designed so that you could remove the turbo without removing the heat shield as the scrutineers would put seals on the bolts before the race weekend. So once it was sealed they would then swap out the turbo for a larger one and race. Well one weekend they win and the car get pulled in for inspection. They are in the inspection building knowing that they have an illegal turbo but it’s getting late so the scrutineers tell them they will inspect first thing before they race again on Sunday. My buddy is stood at the back of the shop by a window which he casually yawns stretches out his arms and unhooks. The scrutineers usher everyone out and secure the building for the night. Once dark my buddy and another mechanic sneak back and climb in through the window and proceed to swap that turbo back to stock and leave. The next day the scrutineers are looking the engine over knowing something isn’t right but find nothing so the car gets released lol doesn’t matter what the firm of racing everyone is doing something to gain that advantage without getting caught lol
I don’t get to watch all of your videos, start to finish, but everything I’ve seen that you produce is AMAZING! Thank you for sharing your passion with all of us!
Unbelievable History. I Love watching this kind of Technical stuff. Thank You for these Videos. These Gentlemen & the Knowledge they have is Unbelievable
I made it to the end. Man, I just love this kind of stuff. My Godfather raced small time Street Stocks and Midgets in the 80s, 90s, & 00s, and I could just listen to stories from him and his crew chief forever.
Now we are talking. All those secrets of speed that hopefully get done on the Monte Carlo. Those intakes are so interesting looking. This is the stuff I can dive into. I love the mechanical side of racing. You guys made my morning
It's so hard to fathom, the endless hours of welding, grinding, and porting just in the top end. Wow! Thanks for bringing us all along on this journey, true car guys appreciate it. God Bless.
I'm 71 years old my dad an auto marine repair shop and business I've been a motor head my entire life and nascar fan since 1967 nhra fan since 1968 Jungle jim and David Pearson were my first favorites then Earnhardt then Dale Jr Martin Truex because I grew up around and with his dad and uncle what im getting at is im an old guy and you and your beautiful girl friend have old souls I have a grandson born in 96 so im impressed with your passion I enjoy your work and want to give you a big THANK YOU its not every day a person can make their passion their job !!!
It looks like the center chamber is a plenum. If you'll notice, the outer diameter of the centre bore interferes with the four outer bores of the intake tracts. The carb would sit above the divider, allowing each runner to share the center bore as an additional volume to their runners. What you have, here, is a carb space below the carb flange! Now that is ingenius.
Silky, EXACTLY. The center bore acts like a combination Venturi “collector” and funnels air downward, making the engine inhale and “breathe” deeply. It was genius…and so were the engineers who perfected it.
I think the space between the carb. and inside the intake was a restriction. He said the closer you could get the center plug to the Carburetor the better. That's why they came up w/ways to fill that void. Air flows faster in a solid tube then 1 w/a big void . A smoother path for air will flow more air .
I continue to love your true NASCAR historic videos. Maybe one day NASCAR will return to the roots that made them successful. I moved to NC in 1988, and my memories are great. North Wilkesboro was my absolutely favorite track.
I was huge Ernie Irvan fan and first race I got to go see he crashed minutes before arriving at Michigan … I remember all the merch trailers were shut down and everyone thought he was dead. This MMM series of videos is quite the treat ! Thanks for sharing 👍👊
Everyone used to get so pissed at Nascar for knowing teams had an advantage & not doing more to find it. These guys did just enough to disguise their advantages and it's absolutely hilarious to see & hear more about it thanks to you and Dale Jr. I'm just glad Nascar record books are set in stone & they aren't throwing a fit about the stories that have come out in public the last 4 or 5 years.
this is great for history . my first race was the 1962 daytona firecracker 250 . .. i love this , and this story needs to be preserved . thanks for the work
I was an Ernie Irving fan. I love the back stories and the we never cheated stories. Thanks again for doing this. I hope this Interview opens other doors.
Ernie was always a favorite of mine , it kinda hurt the way he exited Morgan McClure . I understand about bettering yourself but don't ruin a team owners chance of winning a championship just to get out of team.
hearing/seeing all the tricks and ins/outs of cheating or getting a competitive advantage on those old cars is insane. More content like this is needed!
Wow that was probably the most eye opening video I’ve seen on UA-cam. Thank you both and the Morgan-McClure crew. DW was my Oprah, after he retired I latched on to Mark Martin. I ran Mobil super that was in the 80-90s because that was the only oil that didn’t turn colors in my sbc. When synthetic oil became more prevalent I ran Mobil 1. Now I run Brad-Penn in my hotrod and European oil in my VWs. Thanks again.
As an Australian/Kiwi living just down the road in Greenville SC I love this stuff. They’re such unassuming good old boys that liked to build cool stuff. So cool that you’re sharing it with us before it’s all gone.
I ran across your channel a few weeks ago. Totally love these videos of how NASCAR used to be. I was. South Carolina state trooper for 25 years and worked Darlington races for 15 years. I remember the different sound that the #4 had in ‘91. Keep up the good work.
Y'all do some serious interviews. I stopped watching nascar several years ago but it was a family tradition I participated in for the first 30+ years of my life. I love the content.
I love this stuff. I used to work with SRT to develop intake manifolds for the MOPAR prostock engines. I love engine history and all the small tips and tricks these guys did to make horsepower.
Mitchell you and Logan do an excellent job. I'm 99% sure that I've watched every one of your videos on both channels all the way through no matter what it's about. I'm definitely an OG on here my friend you guys are killing it.
I've been Building and Modding engine since the late 60"s and learned from a local that used to help on some different NASCAR Teams cars. He made it clear that the heads and intake are more important than the pistons or block. He taught me how to weld heads and then he'd mill them to different angles like these guys did...once he just milled the head on the intake side more to build more compression and that helped his drag Camaro gain 2 seconds with just that...He did that kind of experimental stuff all the time and would make one change at a time then do one more change...some failed so he'd build another head up to the failing point and then try a different trick. HE had more in his head than about any other engine builder I ever knew and I'm 74 now. To answer your OIL QUESTION; I've tried several brands and found it all depends on the engine size and how it's going to be raced. I found EDGE works best for my 97 K1500 and MOTUL 7100 works amazing in my BMW. I did use Pennzoil in a VW Buggy a while back but I sold that toy...that was the only thing that used Pennzoil tho for me..Pennzoil used to have a pretty bad REPUTATION when they used Paraffin Wax for a while. Boy it helped old and tired engine for a while but they would build up sludge from blow-by in short order tho. I think engine builders experiment with different oils like they do different parts. It is an ongoing experiment for me and once I find a slight advantage with one brand and viscosity then I keep that for THAT ENGINE. It usually shows up in the 1/4 mile engine more so that other forms. It can just come down to less vibration with one oil over another....there's nothing wrong with staying with one oil tho....I love taking the time to find something just a TAD-BETTER tho...just like tweaking each valve to fit the head..........I'm sure you get that. Oil is just that LAST little TWEAK for this Ol' Engine builder...LOL It's all in the MINOOTE LITTLE DETAILS when it comes to one engine over another with all the identical parts...any builder will understand that being identical doesn't mean they're the same, same by any means. BTW. I enjoy your channel but get so busy with life that I forget to watch every week...don't take that offensive tho. Ya gotta remember, I'm 74yrs old and not into the internet as much as the younger generation...LOL
Great story. And that, to this day, "heads and intake" being more important, seems to be lost on many. Especially the current 20's kids. They'd rather spend $10-15k to let someone else make their power for them, instead of learning.
@@donaldgminski8621 I know GROWN MEN that do the same thing. I may have about $7,775 in the Carburated Engine & Trans I built for my '97 C1500 long bed that STILL beats my buddies Mustang with an Injected PERFORMANCE $29K Engine & a $5,700 Trans he bought just to "Now I'm gonna Smoke your Truck". I'm pretty sure that His equipment MAY technically be able to beat mine but he and his crew just run and run and run it without EVER checking anything but the fluids. I don't think they know how to do anything to it or May just be they're all TOO intimidated to touch anything. HE is actually my BEST friend but he wants to do HIS CAR HIS WAY and doesn't let me give them Any Advice,,,I can Dig-IT! WE just have AWESOME LAUGHS with all of this and never let it get too serious or RUN our lives...After-All, We're only here for a little while so may just as well have Good-Klean fun with it all...RIGHT-ON? Have a Great Day and keep the Dirty Side Down Donald Gminski. Signed, A new Friend, "Auto Doc"
Amazing. I remember following the car magazines talking about restrictor plates and feeling anger since it obviously seriously cut power and I was all about making MORE power! Thanks for the chance to hear from the guys fighting for power!
I love what y’all do!! Please keep it up. This history that you are sharing with us is peak of NASCAR to me. It was the best time for drivers and also the very best for the self made engineers behind the scenes. Thanks again.
I love this type stuff! Just found your channel a couple months ago and went back to the beginning and have watched most of the videos. I'm a AutoCAD drafter by trade and love motorsports engineering and all the nuances. I'm a big Indycar guy too and would love for you to do some videos on all the craziness in open wheel engineering. My favorite story is the Mercedes Benz badged Illmor pushrod engine they designed for the 1994 Indy 500. The story behind that whole development, design, drive is nuts!
I made it till the end ,Morgan McClure built some bada$$ rides ! I love to see the ingenious ideas these men did to create an advantage. There's some much to learn from these great creative minds and I'm thankful that you are picking their brains and sharing the tidbits they are willing to share, to me these guys are the magic of racing .
I’ve been waiting for this video since you teased it. I love old nascar engine tech. Please do more vintage engine stuff. Interview engine builders, hunt down the engines and parts, get in depth with the tricks and secrets. Thank you.
This is great. I was always a huge Ford fan but I always cheered for the Morgan McClure guys because they were located so close to me. Good stuff!! Thank you!!
Was in for the whole thing. Dad drove Cale Yarborough’s hauler a couple of times in the early 90’s. Richard Perry’s Busch team hauler as well once or twice. I believe Bob Johnson was the crew chief. Dad had a friend from our home town that invited him to help drive on the west coast trips.
We always watch your videos to the end Mitchell. Wouldn't have it any other way. Man, just imagine the amount of work that went into those cylinder heads and intake - as this was (more than likely) done completely by hand, without the benefit of CNC machining, computational fluid dynamics, and all the other modern technology available today.
This could have been longer. Very fascinating to see the engineering involved with just the engines. I was very young when that car took Daytona. So cool to see some of the inner working. Thanks!!
Came back for this video. I've been looking for crate engines for so long bur I fear I'll have to build it myself. Seeing these parts and build history is very inspiring
It is so cool to go back and see the extremes that these very ingenious people could do and create and run on the ragged edge of the rule book. Awesome stuff keep up the good work.
i love the engine parts, and tech and i absolutely love the loose rule interpretations that they had to figure out to run in the front. please more engine/cylinder head stuff with the guys who worked on them
That was an awesome look into some old school NASCAR tech! I had no idea they used Pontiac cylinder heads on that race car. Thanks for letting us see all these great encounters you and Logan experience. 🏁
It's definitely interesting. I think all the GM teams used the Chevrolet small block, but each division had their own heads. I knew about the Pontiac heads, didn't know about the Buick heads. I'd imagine Oldsmobile had their own also. I also didn't know you were allowed to run Pontiac heads in a Chevrolet bodied car. Neat insight for sure.
@@skittlecar1 they were no more Pontiac heads than the man on the moon lol. Trust me they only had the word Pontiac cast into them. HVH aka HI Velocity Heads was Joe Patel. He prepared the vast majority of cylinder heads for almost all of the GM teams. The restrictor plate could be over come to a large extent by getting the Cowell air ( at the base of the windshield shaped right) air pan would feed the carburetor & at 180 mph it could be worth 90 hp.
It's great to be able to see those heads and intake you just have to appreciate the hours and the discussions and the failures and the excitement that was involved in developing that stuff it reminds me of old school drag racing and all the little tricks and things you did and it's like one guy once said each one of those tricks don't really amount to a lot but all together does or can make a difference and that's why you do it. Those heads and manifold are off the wall.
All I can say is go time for you two lucky people to see and feel racing history like you do… great great great vids of history that without you and the better half show all of us… just very lucky to be there for stuff no one else has went to the limits with showing the untouchable past… wonderful!!!!
I love hearing the things they would do to gain any little edge that they could get over the rest of the teams. Y'all do an outstanding job with this channel & the history of racing! Thanks for all the hard work!
Thanks for sharing a restrictor manifold. I have always wanted to see the inside of one of those. The oddity of the design of the baffle is really interesting. The center tube is totally unexpected. I would have thought the holes would have a large entrance radius.
Glad you made this It's hard to imagine how much work was put in to the parts just to get more horsepower and do it in a way that the inspection doesn't notice!! That takes skills
I absolutely love learning about the true history of not only Nascar, but racing as well. I have always looked for horsepower in unconventional ways in all of my "stock" street cars. I thoroughly enjoy working on cats even though life has never led me in that direction. I would love to take a trip and maybe get to do a walk through of your garage, the same as you did here. Love the content and secrets that you have been digging to find! Keep up the hard work. God bless!
Another great video! All of us old school fans are very fortunate you guys had the foresight and willingness to pick up everything and move across country to try to do this stuff. I’m sure it was scary but it has worked out great for us and I hope it has for you as well. I hope Nascar and people in the industry appreciate it as much as I do. Thanks again!
Excellent video! Was out of town but am watching this now, sure do appreciate the historical value of the contents here, and I'm on it today! Thank you & Logan for all you do. 😎👍
These videos are like the racing version of that Hubble deep field photo: if you point a camera at a random area of seemingly blank space and zoom in enough, you'll see almost infinite interesting stuff, I'm not working on cars myself or anything so I never thought I'd enjoy myself this much looking at a cylinder head and intake manifold for that long. I'd love to see this kind of up close look at some of the 60s and 70s cars too, teams were getting away with some wild stuff back then!
Used to love driving by the Morgan-McClure shops along I-81 on the way to Bristol back in the 90's - it was obvious for several years they were doing something different and effective with their engine program along with some great driving by Ernie and Sterling. Thanks for this, lot's of answers to questions I asked myself years ago...
This was VERY interesting. The NASCAR guys did some incredibly clever stuff back in the day. They still do. What they figured out without the tech aids we have now is amazing. There are so many little things the one would never think about. Like a drive shaft driven oil pump back at the differential to circulate the diff oil through it's own cooler. The oil would get so hot the seals would fail... I'm a new sub now. Well done.
Good stuff! It make one wonder how much legendary stuff is being lost as these guys age. It's inevitable that these gentlemen and the others like them will pass and the stories and the history of the remarkable things they did will be lost with them. It's deep in the weeds of Nascar history and minutiae and I love it. I watched the races and followed the series closely then. Thanks for bringing it back to life.
I appreciate all these videos. I have worked in the NASCAR since 05 and love seeing this stuff from the cars that I grew up watching. Sure is different from the junk we have now.
@armorgeddon you can't fix problems in designs. The quality control on 95% is out of your hands. The only thing you can change are shims and slugs. No one got in this sport for that. You got into Nascar to always strive to make a better mousetrap. I know a dozen guys that left before and after this car. It was at the biggest team in the sport. They left because you don't do anything at the track anymore. Practice is a joke now.
I really haven't been a NASCAR fan since the early 80's, but just the historical factor in these videos is pretty riveting there Mitchell. Keep up the great videos, and let's see where this brings us.
These are great videos, keep it up! Love the Harry Gant monte sound, those cars were bad to the bone, it’s hard to imagine the work that went into those engines with todays CNC tech, thanks for sharing, and thanks for your appreciation for the roots of the sport.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, best youtube channel hands down. Amazing videos every single time. Thank you guys for the content and keep kicking ass.
i used to love NASCAR in the 90s!!! i was born in 88 and my sunday was always me glued to the couch and watching the race no matter which track they were at. I still remember watching the daytona 500 at home seeing Dale hit that wall and keeping MW out front for the win. wasnt until a couple hours later after my father getting home and telling me that he ended up passing front his wreck. after that idk what happen but i slowly drifted away from NASCAR racing. still have love for it and would love to get back into it!!! i love what you do on your channel here and is amazing to see and learn all this unknow stuff to the regular race fan lol. love the content bro keep it up!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing this and basically preserving history by picking all of these old school guys heads. Speed TV wishes they could have gotten an interview with all of these guys and the stories they tell. What you are covering is NASCAR when it was good. I was born in 85 so I did not get to catch much of it but up until it dropped Winston as the sponsor my dad took me all over the southeast to races and it is the most fond memories I have of my dad. It has become too technical and computer driven these days and the days of a stock car are gone sadly. I would have just loved to be in a shop, even just as a fly on the wall, on a wednesday evening drinking a few beers and working to get a car ready for the weekend and listening to all of these old school guys trying to get as close to illegal as they could without going over the line lol. They sure knew how to stretch that rule book or either hide the stuff so good if it was illegal that the officials never noticed. This was truly the good ol days
This channel is absolutely awesome! huge NASCAR fan for over 40 years. I love the tech stuff! Keep it up and I look forward to getting merchandise and seeing the rest of your videos! WELL DONE!!!!
I wrenched on an ARCA team in the late 90’s through the 00’s, James Hylton helped us quite a bit and we returned the favor (if nothing else, we were young, exuberant and most importantly free labor😅). Especially in the early days, James always had racing buddies who’d come out of the woodwork for the race weekends. Those old dudes had endless racin’ stories, about out smarting the NASCAR or ARCA officials. Those two remind so much of James and his friends, brings back a ton of memories.
Can't say it enough, guys. Thank you so much for doing this. There is genuinely not enough of this content around. We are nearing the days where some really great history and stories could get lost forever. If it weren't for you two, there are definitely some significant things that may have never been known outside of a small inner circle. Thanks for bringing us along.
If you think this is cool…you’ll love the video with Sterling Marlins 1995 Daytona 500 winning car! (Side note if anyone has some Brodix 867 Pontiac heads they’d sell…email us 😂)
Stapletonautoworks.com
Ha. I love the history of cars how they ran and how they raced.
Would High Compression 327 heads with Sodium filled valves work?
Frr I was already like man he needs some poniac heads in the when I was watching the vid😂 sure it helps the sound with the valve angle and all
A-1 Performance warehouse in Monmouth Illinois has two sets for sale. Saw them listed on eBay for $750 for a set with 2.125 inch dia intake valves and 1.60 exhausts and the other set was $500 but I didn’t look into the specifics on that set other than looking at the pics. The pics of the cheaper set looked like the chamber’s were pretty oxidized but that’s really no big deal. If you end up getting either set of those heads, look into getting the matching intake to go with them. Been down that road myself with 18 degree small block heads. The 18 degree stuff I use has a raised runner and different bolt pattern than factory 23 deg sbc stuff and the flange and bolt holes are also different angles than factory. If you want a setup that can really flow some air, I mean serious velocity with good volumes they’re the way to go.
Had to hop back to the message to say I made it to the end, nice collection of exhaust parts. About the Penzoil, I’ve just always had good luck with it in my flat tappet engines since my first sbc. Been so many years since I looked up the specs on their oils but I do remember reading about the zinc content in theirs which is the reason I still use it for flat tappet stuff. Oils without the lubricity and imbedment of that zinc kill lifters in no time followed by the cam very shortly after.
A set of those heads with Titanium valves ran about $20,000 in the early 1990's. I was an apprentice from 18-21 in a race engine shop from 1990 - 1993 and we did high end class exploitation for guys running short tracks. 5/8-3/4 mile short tracks.
We ran zero gap rings and only the top ring sets with short compression height pistons and the longest rods we could put in the engine.
More of this type of content is needed, men like these are not going to be around forever so their stories need to be heard. Keep up the good work.
The storys these guys could tell!!!!! Id sit for hours just to learn from them!!!!!
They need to go to DEI and find out what they found for them plate cars in 2000
100% this is great
Absolutely
I agree completely!! I've been eating up this content!!!
I’m still amazed how this history is just sitting out there. It’s great that you get to these guys before they’re gone. These stories are amazing
You two getting to sit with these legends and hearing their stories firsthand is absolutely priceless.
Thank you Steve!!
Makes me Jealous!😜😜
Hell ya agree.
Your comment about putting that in the trophy room just so you can see it all the time. Agree.
And so the Logan’s car is blue…..
I would love to sit around for some of their stories , the shop tour video really shows their progression in Nascar . The #4 Kodak car is such an Icon of the times when nascar was at its peak . I miss those days but I remember them like it was yesterday. You and Logan are the dynamic duo keeping the history alive , thanks guys.
@@ryanbrown4336 agreed. But it seems like back then. We didn’t see the inside of the shops that much. It was all a mystery. Unless u saw them on an episode of “Inside Winston Cup Racing” on a Sunday Morning on TNN. But it still showed very little. Maybe the cars sitting all lined up. So all this is New and Amazing. Finally getting some questions answered!!😂
I don't know that we can fully appreciate the amount of knowledge these McClure videos have given us.
The engineering, R/D and testing that these guys did/do is absolutely incredible.
These videos are priceless 🙏🏻
You guys really love sophistry.
Want the truth, come back and look at my comment from two weeks ago.
Amazing job Larry and Crew 💪👏
Absolutely love hearing the "old timers" tell their stories of stretching the rules.
We do too!
The simplicity of the engine, but the extreme attention to detail makes this so fascinating. Throwing money at it doesn’t always work, and the nascar rules really made the fab guys think about every aspect to grab any HP they can.
Tuning and fab work is such a joy to do.
I’m glad to see that you have access to all of these great racing legends and that you can share portions with us, great content always
thanks man we are glad you're here for it!
You don’t get the inside information without a lot of effort to get it and you deserve a lot of credit for the effort. We get to enjoy the history so thank you.
That was an epic amount of work on those heads and intake. One of my buddies was crew chief for a touring car team in the 80’s. He told me they had a turbo heat shield that was designed so that you could remove the turbo without removing the heat shield as the scrutineers would put seals on the bolts before the race weekend. So once it was sealed they would then swap out the turbo for a larger one and race. Well one weekend they win and the car get pulled in for inspection. They are in the inspection building knowing that they have an illegal turbo but it’s getting late so the scrutineers tell them they will inspect first thing before they race again on Sunday. My buddy is stood at the back of the shop by a window which he casually yawns stretches out his arms and unhooks. The scrutineers usher everyone out and secure the building for the night. Once dark my buddy and another mechanic sneak back and climb in through the window and proceed to swap that turbo back to stock and leave. The next day the scrutineers are looking the engine over knowing something isn’t right but find nothing so the car gets released lol doesn’t matter what the firm of racing everyone is doing something to gain that advantage without getting caught lol
Just like with breaking the law, it ain't illegal to break the rules, it's illegal to get CAUGHT breaking them
I don’t get to watch all of your videos, start to finish, but everything I’ve seen that you produce is AMAZING! Thank you for sharing your passion with all of us!
thank you so much! We appreciate those contributions greatly
Good to see younger people enjoying the real history of NASCAR keep up the good work
Thank you for this!! This is the history of nascar that needs to be shown!!! All the "mechanical innovations" that happened!
Unbelievable History. I Love watching this kind of Technical stuff. Thank You for these Videos. These Gentlemen & the Knowledge they have is Unbelievable
I made it to the end. Man, I just love this kind of stuff. My Godfather raced small time Street Stocks and Midgets in the 80s, 90s, & 00s, and I could just listen to stories from him and his crew chief forever.
Now we are talking. All those secrets of speed that hopefully get done on the Monte Carlo. Those intakes are so interesting looking. This is the stuff I can dive into. I love the mechanical side of racing. You guys made my morning
I want to find some of those Brodix Pontiac heads 👀
Those Brodix heads are so awesome. My dad has them for his 69’ GTO and he said they are like gold to find and he loves them.
Thanks youngens , love what you do. I've been a huge racing fan for over 60 years and yes I'm in the 70's yr old
Thank you sir!!
It's so hard to fathom, the endless hours of welding, grinding, and porting just in the top end. Wow! Thanks for bringing us all along on this journey, true car guys appreciate it. God Bless.
I'm 71 years old my dad an auto marine repair shop and business I've been a motor head my entire life and nascar fan since 1967 nhra fan since 1968 Jungle jim and David Pearson were my first favorites then Earnhardt then Dale Jr Martin Truex because I grew up around and with his dad and uncle what im getting at is im an old guy and you and your beautiful girl friend have old souls I have a grandson born in 96 so im impressed with your passion I enjoy your work and want to give you a big THANK YOU its not every day a person can make their passion their job !!!
It looks like the center chamber is a plenum. If you'll notice, the outer diameter of the centre bore interferes with the four outer bores of the intake tracts. The carb would sit above the divider, allowing each runner to share the center bore as an additional volume to their runners. What you have, here, is a carb space below the carb flange! Now that is ingenius.
Awesome analysis 🤘🤘 I was thinking something like that too. It truly is genius. These guy's are legends, with their motor builds
Silky, EXACTLY. The center bore acts like a combination Venturi “collector” and funnels air downward, making the engine inhale and “breathe” deeply. It was genius…and so were the engineers who perfected it.
I think the space between the carb. and inside the intake was a restriction. He said the closer you could get the center plug to the Carburetor the better. That's why they came up w/ways to fill that void. Air flows faster in a solid tube then 1 w/a big void . A smoother path for air will flow more air .
@@pat36a Wow.
How does that spring in the center work?
I continue to love your true NASCAR historic videos. Maybe one day NASCAR will return to the roots that made them successful. I moved to NC in 1988, and my memories are great. North Wilkesboro was my absolutely favorite track.
I certainly appreciate the amount of work the went into those heads and intake.
I was huge Ernie Irvan fan and first race I got to go see he crashed minutes before arriving at Michigan … I remember all the merch trailers were shut down and everyone thought he was dead. This MMM series of videos is quite the treat ! Thanks for sharing 👍👊
Everyone used to get so pissed at Nascar for knowing teams had an advantage & not doing more to find it. These guys did just enough to disguise their advantages and it's absolutely hilarious to see & hear more about it thanks to you and Dale Jr. I'm just glad Nascar record books are set in stone & they aren't throwing a fit about the stories that have come out in public the last 4 or 5 years.
Thanks not walrus man!
this is great for history . my first race was the 1962 daytona firecracker 250 . .. i love this , and this story needs to be preserved . thanks for the work
This time period was the beginning of the end for the racing I grew up doing and watching. Glad to see the McClures are doing well!
This is so cool.
This was the peak of me being a nascar fan. I was 10. That win made me a swerving ervin fan.
Seing that stuff up close is awesome!!
I love going back and watching these videos!! I learn something every time!! So much information!!
I'm so glad 💪🏻
History should not be forgotten. I love it and to me it’s a great way to not repeat it!
I was an Ernie Irving fan. I love the back stories and the we never cheated stories. Thanks again for doing this. I hope this Interview opens other doors.
Ernie was always a favorite of mine , it kinda hurt the way he exited Morgan McClure . I understand about bettering yourself but don't ruin a team owners chance of winning a championship just to get out of team.
hearing/seeing all the tricks and ins/outs of cheating or getting a competitive advantage on those old cars is insane. More content like this is needed!
Wow that was probably the most eye opening video I’ve seen on UA-cam. Thank you both and the Morgan-McClure crew. DW was my Oprah, after he retired I latched on to Mark Martin. I ran Mobil super that was in the 80-90s because that was the only oil that didn’t turn colors in my sbc. When synthetic oil became more prevalent I ran Mobil 1. Now I run Brad-Penn in my hotrod and European oil in my VWs. Thanks again.
As an Australian/Kiwi living just down the road in Greenville SC I love this stuff. They’re such unassuming good old boys that liked to build cool stuff. So cool that you’re sharing it with us before it’s all gone.
I ran across your channel a few weeks ago. Totally love these videos of how NASCAR used to be. I was. South Carolina state trooper for 25 years and worked Darlington races for 15 years. I remember the different sound that the #4 had in ‘91. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man!! We are glad you’re here
Y'all do some serious interviews. I stopped watching nascar several years ago but it was a family tradition I participated in for the first 30+ years of my life. I love the content.
Thanks man!!
Made it man. Crazy someone born in 1996 has so much content on pre-birth NASCAR era material. But it doesn't matter. Rock on. Escalade sounds badass!
Those heads and intake sure is cool love to see history like that.
I love this stuff. I used to work with SRT to develop intake manifolds for the MOPAR prostock engines. I love engine history and all the small tips and tricks these guys did to make horsepower.
Mitchell you and Logan do an excellent job. I'm 99% sure that I've watched every one of your videos on both channels all the way through no matter what it's about. I'm definitely an OG on here my friend you guys are killing it.
thanks man
I've been Building and Modding engine since the late 60"s and learned from a local that used to help on some different NASCAR Teams cars. He made it clear that the heads and intake are more important than the pistons or block. He taught me how to weld heads and then he'd mill them to different angles like these guys did...once he just milled the head on the intake side more to build more compression and that helped his drag Camaro gain 2 seconds with just that...He did that kind of experimental stuff all the time and would make one change at a time then do one more change...some failed so he'd build another head up to the failing point and then try a different trick. HE had more in his head than about any other engine builder I ever knew and I'm 74 now.
To answer your OIL QUESTION; I've tried several brands and found it all depends on the engine size and how it's going to be raced. I found EDGE works best for my 97 K1500 and MOTUL 7100 works amazing in my BMW. I did use Pennzoil in a VW Buggy a while back but I sold that toy...that was the only thing that used Pennzoil tho for me..Pennzoil used to have a pretty bad REPUTATION when they used Paraffin Wax for a while. Boy it helped old and tired engine for a while but they would build up sludge from blow-by in short order tho.
I think engine builders experiment with different oils like they do different parts. It is an ongoing experiment for me and once I find a slight advantage with one brand and viscosity then I keep that for THAT ENGINE. It usually shows up in the 1/4 mile engine more so that other forms. It can just come down to less vibration with one oil over another....there's nothing wrong with staying with one oil tho....I love taking the time to find something just a TAD-BETTER tho...just like tweaking each valve to fit the head..........I'm sure you get that. Oil is just that LAST little TWEAK for this Ol' Engine builder...LOL
It's all in the MINOOTE LITTLE DETAILS when it comes to one engine over another with all the identical parts...any builder will understand that being identical doesn't mean they're the same, same by any means.
BTW. I enjoy your channel but get so busy with life that I forget to watch every week...don't take that offensive tho. Ya gotta remember, I'm 74yrs old and not into the internet as much as the younger generation...LOL
Great story.
And that, to this day, "heads and intake" being more important, seems to be lost on many. Especially the current 20's kids. They'd rather spend $10-15k to let someone else make their power for them, instead of learning.
@@donaldgminski8621 I know GROWN MEN that do the same thing.
I may have about $7,775 in the Carburated Engine & Trans I built for my '97 C1500 long bed that STILL beats my buddies Mustang with an Injected PERFORMANCE $29K Engine & a $5,700 Trans he bought just to "Now I'm gonna Smoke your Truck".
I'm pretty sure that His equipment MAY technically be able to beat mine but he and his crew just run and run and run it without EVER checking anything but the fluids. I don't think they know how to do anything to it or May just be they're all TOO intimidated to touch anything.
HE is actually my BEST friend but he wants to do HIS CAR HIS WAY and doesn't let me give them Any Advice,,,I can Dig-IT!
WE just have AWESOME LAUGHS with all of this and never let it get too serious or RUN our lives...After-All, We're only here for a little while so may just as well have Good-Klean fun with it all...RIGHT-ON?
Have a Great Day and keep the Dirty Side Down Donald Gminski.
Signed, A new Friend, "Auto Doc"
Made it to the end. Best NASCAR content on UA-cam. Super cool to see a channel uncovering all of this history.
Your videos are fascinating. I could listen to Larry’s stories all day. Keep ‘em coming.
I've seen every 4 car Daytona victory live. Really cool to see stories behind historical nascar races and wins. Those dudes had it figured out!
Amazing. I remember following the car magazines talking about restrictor plates and feeling anger since it obviously seriously cut power and I was all about making MORE power! Thanks for the chance to hear from the guys fighting for power!
Loved the videos of these guys!! I was a #4 car fan and saw all the Daytona wins!! That was the real NASCAR!!
I love what y’all do!! Please keep it up. This history that you are sharing with us is peak of NASCAR to me. It was the best time for drivers and also the very best for the self made engineers behind the scenes. Thanks again.
i love any thing engine science, the valve angle, exhaust science, builds, experimentation
I love this type stuff! Just found your channel a couple months ago and went back to the beginning and have watched most of the videos. I'm a AutoCAD drafter by trade and love motorsports engineering and all the nuances. I'm a big Indycar guy too and would love for you to do some videos on all the craziness in open wheel engineering. My favorite story is the Mercedes Benz badged Illmor pushrod engine they designed for the 1994 Indy 500. The story behind that whole development, design, drive is nuts!
Thanks man we’re glad you’re here!!
I made it till the end ,Morgan McClure built some bada$$ rides ! I love to see the ingenious ideas these men did to create an advantage. There's some much to learn from these great creative minds and I'm thankful that you are picking their brains and sharing the tidbits they are willing to share, to me these guys are the magic of racing .
I’ve been waiting for this video since you teased it. I love old nascar engine tech. Please do more vintage engine stuff. Interview engine builders, hunt down the engines and parts, get in depth with the tricks and secrets. Thank you.
Wow, it’s exciting to just see the historical parts, and listening to the stories told by legends!!! No One has ever done what you two have filmed.
I'm blown away with what these guys did to that top end. I came to your channel for the drag racing, stayed for the Nascar history and knowledge.
This is great. I was always a huge Ford fan but I always cheered for the Morgan McClure guys because they were located so close to me. Good stuff!! Thank you!!
Was in for the whole thing. Dad drove Cale Yarborough’s hauler a couple of times in the early 90’s. Richard Perry’s Busch team hauler as well once or twice. I believe Bob Johnson was the crew chief. Dad had a friend from our home town that invited him to help drive on the west coast trips.
J.E. Beard who they mention doing the intake was my fiancés brother. He could build some engines for sure!
We always watch your videos to the end Mitchell. Wouldn't have it any other way. Man, just imagine the amount of work that went into those cylinder heads and intake - as this was (more than likely) done completely by hand, without the benefit of CNC machining, computational fluid dynamics, and all the other modern technology available today.
This could have been longer. Very fascinating to see the engineering involved with just the engines. I was very young when that car took Daytona. So cool to see some of the inner working. Thanks!!
Came back for this video. I've been looking for crate engines for so long bur I fear I'll have to build it myself. Seeing these parts and build history is very inspiring
Thanks man!! Find a good machine shop and someone with experience to help you
It is so cool to go back and see the extremes that these very ingenious people could do and create and run on the ragged edge of the rule book. Awesome stuff keep up the good work.
So cool to see those parts up close and to hear what they did to make them a dominating set. Thanks for taking the time to video it and share it.
i love the engine parts, and tech and i absolutely love the loose rule interpretations that they had to figure out to run in the front. please more engine/cylinder head stuff with the guys who worked on them
That was an awesome look into some old school NASCAR tech! I had no idea they used Pontiac cylinder heads on that race car. Thanks for letting us see all these great encounters you and Logan experience. 🏁
It's definitely interesting. I think all the GM teams used the Chevrolet small block, but each division had their own heads. I knew about the Pontiac heads, didn't know about the Buick heads. I'd imagine Oldsmobile had their own also. I also didn't know you were allowed to run Pontiac heads in a Chevrolet bodied car. Neat insight for sure.
@@skittlecar1 they were no more Pontiac heads than the man on the moon lol. Trust me they only had the word Pontiac cast into them. HVH aka HI Velocity Heads was Joe Patel. He prepared the vast majority of cylinder heads for almost all of the GM teams. The restrictor plate could be over come to a large extent by getting the Cowell air ( at the base of the windshield shaped right) air pan would feed the carburetor & at 180 mph it could be worth 90 hp.
Very cool video. I remember all the rumors and stories about this team, their cars and engines but it is so neat to get it from them. Thanks
It's great to be able to see those heads and intake you just have to appreciate the hours and the discussions and the failures and the excitement that was involved in developing that stuff it reminds me of old school drag racing and all the little tricks and things you did and it's like one guy once said each one of those tricks don't really amount to a lot but all together does or can make a difference and that's why you do it. Those heads and manifold are off the wall.
Of course I watched until the end:) Great documentation of an amazing group of engineers!
Very cool stuff seems like yesterday when I was watching Ernie Irving win the Daytona 500 definitely fun times
I was a huge Ernie fan, those plate races were insane! Thanks for the content!!
All I can say is go time for you two lucky people to see and feel racing history like you do… great great great vids of history that without you and the better half show all of us… just very lucky to be there for stuff no one else has went to the limits with showing the untouchable past… wonderful!!!!
This was really cool learning about the older nascar ENGINES liked it a lot
I love hearing the things they would do to gain any little edge that they could get over the rest of the teams. Y'all do an outstanding job with this channel & the history of racing! Thanks for all the hard work!
Thanks for sharing a restrictor manifold. I have always wanted to see the inside of one of those. The oddity of the design of the baffle is really interesting. The center tube is totally unexpected. I would have thought the holes would have a large entrance radius.
Keep the these old racing legends relevant. Keep up the great work
Your doing a great job of keeping the history of NASCAR, I really like the back stories and behind the scenes details.
Glad you made this
It's hard to imagine how much work was put in to the parts just to get more horsepower and do it in a way that the inspection doesn't notice!! That takes skills
Wow dude, insane insight to Nascar history!
I absolutely love learning about the true history of not only Nascar, but racing as well. I have always looked for horsepower in unconventional ways in all of my "stock" street cars. I thoroughly enjoy working on cats even though life has never led me in that direction. I would love to take a trip and maybe get to do a walk through of your garage, the same as you did here. Love the content and secrets that you have been digging to find! Keep up the hard work. God bless!
Another great video! All of us old school fans are very fortunate you guys had the foresight and willingness to pick up everything and move across country to try to do this stuff. I’m sure it was scary but it has worked out great for us and I hope it has for you as well. I hope Nascar and people in the industry appreciate it as much as I do. Thanks again!
Thanks man. Almost a year now since we got here!
Excellent video! Was out of town but am watching this now, sure do appreciate the historical value of the contents here, and I'm on it today! Thank you & Logan for all you do. 😎👍
This was so informative. Thank you for taking the time to show the background of the real NASCAR.
These videos are like the racing version of that Hubble deep field photo: if you point a camera at a random area of seemingly blank space and zoom in enough, you'll see almost infinite interesting stuff, I'm not working on cars myself or anything so I never thought I'd enjoy myself this much looking at a cylinder head and intake manifold for that long. I'd love to see this kind of up close look at some of the 60s and 70s cars too, teams were getting away with some wild stuff back then!
That’s a great comparison 😂 thanks man!
Used to love driving by the Morgan-McClure shops along I-81 on the way to Bristol back in the 90's - it was obvious for several years they were doing something different and effective with their engine program along with some great driving by Ernie and Sterling. Thanks for this, lot's of answers to questions I asked myself years ago...
Thanks man we are so glad you’re here!
Hell yeah Brother!! We undeniably miss out on all the best years in NASCAR history! Which is why this kinda content really clicks with me!!
This was VERY interesting. The NASCAR guys did some incredibly clever stuff back in the day. They still do. What they figured out without the tech aids we have now is amazing. There are so many little things the one would never think about. Like a drive shaft driven oil pump back at the differential to circulate the diff oil through it's own cooler. The oil would get so hot the seals would fail... I'm a new sub now. Well done.
Good stuff! It make one wonder how much legendary stuff is being lost as these guys age. It's inevitable that these gentlemen and the others like them will pass and the stories and the history of the remarkable things they did will be lost with them. It's deep in the weeds of Nascar history and minutiae and I love it. I watched the races and followed the series closely then. Thanks for bringing it back to life.
also, get some microphones on the guests! I'd hate to miss some nugget after I turned down the volume because your voice is booming over the video.
I appreciate all these videos. I have worked in the NASCAR since 05 and love seeing this stuff from the cars that I grew up watching. Sure is different from the junk we have now.
I'm curious, why do you think what you have now is junk?
@armorgeddon you can't fix problems in designs. The quality control on 95% is out of your hands. The only thing you can change are shims and slugs. No one got in this sport for that. You got into Nascar to always strive to make a better mousetrap. I know a dozen guys that left before and after this car. It was at the biggest team in the sport. They left because you don't do anything at the track anymore. Practice is a joke now.
I really haven't been a NASCAR fan since the early 80's, but just the historical factor in these videos is pretty riveting there Mitchell.
Keep up the great videos, and let's see where this brings us.
These are great videos, keep it up! Love the Harry Gant monte sound, those cars were bad to the bone, it’s hard to imagine the work that went into those engines with todays CNC tech, thanks for sharing, and thanks for your appreciation for the roots of the sport.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, best youtube channel hands down. Amazing videos every single time. Thank you guys for the content and keep kicking ass.
Always love these videos. This was why Nascar was great in those years. Always a treat 2 see Logan 2. Keep up the great work.
i used to love NASCAR in the 90s!!! i was born in 88 and my sunday was always me glued to the couch and watching the race no matter which track they were at. I still remember watching the daytona 500 at home seeing Dale hit that wall and keeping MW out front for the win. wasnt until a couple hours later after my father getting home and telling me that he ended up passing front his wreck. after that idk what happen but i slowly drifted away from NASCAR racing. still have love for it and would love to get back into it!!!
i love what you do on your channel here and is amazing to see and learn all this unknow stuff to the regular race fan lol. love the content bro keep it up!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing this and basically preserving history by picking all of these old school guys heads. Speed TV wishes they could have gotten an interview with all of these guys and the stories they tell. What you are covering is NASCAR when it was good. I was born in 85 so I did not get to catch much of it but up until it dropped Winston as the sponsor my dad took me all over the southeast to races and it is the most fond memories I have of my dad. It has become too technical and computer driven these days and the days of a stock car are gone sadly. I would have just loved to be in a shop, even just as a fly on the wall, on a wednesday evening drinking a few beers and working to get a car ready for the weekend and listening to all of these old school guys trying to get as close to illegal as they could without going over the line lol. They sure knew how to stretch that rule book or either hide the stuff so good if it was illegal that the officials never noticed. This was truly the good ol days
This channel is absolutely awesome! huge NASCAR fan for over 40 years. I love the tech stuff! Keep it up and I look forward to getting merchandise and seeing the rest of your videos! WELL DONE!!!!
Thank you Shane!!
Cool to see all that went into building the full intake on restrictor race engine
That was really interesting not only the history of the heads and intake but the tricks they did to get more power
I wrenched on an ARCA team in the late 90’s through the 00’s, James Hylton helped us quite a bit and we returned the favor (if nothing else, we were young, exuberant and most importantly free labor😅). Especially in the early days, James always had racing buddies who’d come out of the woodwork for the race weekends. Those old dudes had endless racin’ stories, about out smarting the NASCAR or ARCA officials. Those two remind so much of James and his friends, brings back a ton of memories.
Learned quite a bit about the restrictor plates. Good onfo
You guys do an amazing job of finding the most interesting people, stories, cars, and locations. And you ask the best questions. Well done!
Really enjoy these videos… thats what made Nascar interesting for me… all the different r&d stuff the teams put into the cars and engines…
Can't say it enough, guys. Thank you so much for doing this. There is genuinely not enough of this content around. We are nearing the days where some really great history and stories could get lost forever. If it weren't for you two, there are definitely some significant things that may have never been known outside of a small inner circle. Thanks for bringing us along.
Thank you Steven! Glad you enjoyed it!
Made it to the end. Love this content! Like you, I have learned so much history about the best days of Nascar.
Can't wait to see the new headrs for the Monte. Awesome look at the heads and intake off the #4 car. I had no idea they were Pontiac heads.