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Jason's a nice fella but charging +$1800 for a CFS program really raises ethical concerns, given the financial and physical challenges of the target audience,potentially excluding those who need the program the most.... Really not ok
The reason I say this are four fold. 1. Any other medical treatment has an efficacy rate, yet in almost all brain retraining cases I can think of this is not shown. There is a spurious suggestion it's below 20 percent. 2. I do not understand the price tag associated with the treatment as the overhead costs are far lower than medical research that has governance, trails, labor and material costs etc etc. 3. In reality the main point isn't even the high price. Everybody would pay the price if, and it's a big if, it had a good efficacy rate and there wasn't an opportunity cost associated with doing the program. People have only so much money to treat themselves and it is important to pick the method that works before you run out of money for an effective treatment. Hence why fair pricing and statistical efficacy for an individual's case is so important and crucially fair for the patient. 4. In another scenario if someone said. We can't scientifically define the problem, there is no solid scientific evidence there is a problem. We can't categorically say everyone has the same problem here. We have no effective solution for the problem. But if you pay a large sum of money we can retrain you to think differently about the problem, but I don't have any statistics or hard evidence to show it works. I think most people would ask if you were a religious person, because you sure would have a lot of blind faith.
How do you hike 9 hours after 6 weeks when for 11 years you barely did anything? Don’t you need training for that? Don’t your muscles and feet die without training? 😂😅
I went from walking 30 minutes a day for 9 months + before I did retraining, then within 2 weeks I climbed a small mountain and within 8 weeks I was fully better. I know that sounds unusual and yes my muscles and joints had big adjustments to make lol, but it is possible, with brain retraining, deep relaxation, confidence, self compassion, really supporting and assisting your body's natural healing ability, it is amazing what can happen. The timeframe is not that important but it does show what can happen even after a decade or more of CFS.
@@ICanThrive I do believe it, as a sidenote though: I think people with severe trauma/unprocessed emotions or negative self belief should ALSO do some kind of traumawork or CBT. You can stuff it away with brain retraining but I think it's more effective to do BOTH for the long run.
I did the Lightning Process about six years ago. I had had cfs for 20 years by then and was occasionally able to walk fifteen minutes and then bang, down I went again and again😬within a couple of weeks after the LP course I was walking up to 7ks at a time, three times a week, totally mind blowing, so much so I had to stop as I went at it too hard and too fast and it caused me great anxiety as I was sooo desperate ( surprise surprise 😬) so I believe it does work BUT you need to be ready and in the right mindset and of course do it with compassion and kindness to yourself 🥳
@@nolamayer4101 and like I said, if you have severe trauma or surpressed emotions it's like rowing against the stream. It's possible but you make it yourself much easier if you combine it with trauma processing, journalspeak, inner child work etc. IF you need it.
Different courses work for different people. Choose the course that resonates for you. I’m staying out of the discussion as to whether Raelan and Jason should be charging less, but I will say there are cheaper and very comprehensive programs out there like the Gupta Program and also Jan Rothney’s book. I’m only saying this, because I know how desperate people can get and there’s so much choice out there now it can be overwhelming. Choose wisely people!
@@JacquiQ$2500 isn’t much? I’ve saved that and more by researching for myself on my illness. Not one person out there has come close to the information I have gained and used. I’m still trying new things out that are also helping.
I wanted to add same bad feedback as others re his program. Close relative joined his program while ago and its very disappointed. It's wayyyy overpriced for the amount of content and support. It's really basic. U can watch all His videos in 24h no bother. His 1to1 calls is all the same, repeated call every time ,which dosnt including anything new or really work on the issue. I'd say the most cost shud b abt 400/500 def not 2500! He dosnt put himself into it. He recored few vid years ago and that it. My relative got allot more help for the fraction of that cost from other program providers. Highly NOT recommended!
I concur. Very disappointed in what is offered for the price. Especially disappointed with the supposedly FB support group that he doesn't pay much attention to. (His words not mine) No point asking for support when it doesn't get posted for 3 or 4 days. I wish I hadn't thrown all my money away or I would be doing the Re-Origin program for half the price which I didn't find out about till much later.
Thank you Raelan for another great interview and wonderful introduction! I really enjoyed sharing this empowering information and I hope everyone enjoys it!!
Yea, this guy. This man wanted to charge me $2000 to go on his 'brain retraining' program. After a back and forth over email and a video call, I still had questions as this is a lot of money for someone who is chronically ill, as you well know. He replied, "I don't have any more time to convince you to join my program".. basically.. take it or leave it. That was the end of that. Disgusting the way a lot of these so called practitioners with absolutely no qualifications pray on the weak and the sick.
I was fortunate enough to have the support I needed so I can afford and looking back it was my mindset I had letting the limit of cost affect my decision towards my health as it is 100% worth my full recovery! I am Super grateful
While we might hope for free services, it's unrealistic to expect professionals to work without compensation. Everyone deserves fair compensation for their hard work and expertise. Otherwise we would be expecting all health professionals emts, nurses, doctors to charge for free.
Can somebody at least reveal one of those mysterious "braintraining-exercises" that they offer on those programs, so as to get a good impression whether those recovery programs are really worth it?
Hello, I shared a free in depth video about brain retraining in a previous interview with Raelan here: ua-cam.com/video/zYG9vmbK31M/v-deo.htmlsi=omgJd6m8gW6joNRS
The key strategies are meditation, journaling and a deep dive into what mind patterns create stress in your life. This varies from person to person so there's value on coaching if within your budget. Main difference between courses & online info is that those are in order and have specific testimonies or things that worked for other ME/CFS patients
Hi there. Brain retraing is simple techniques, collected into one session (people who do it, often call it a round, because DNRS calls it like this). What we aim to achieve is to 1. Stop unhelpful thoughts 2. Elevate mood 3. Visualize health or something nice and positive 1. This is a stop technique. You basically can just say stop whenever you catch an unhelpful thought about symptoms, a doubt about recovery, ruminating thought which is unhelpful to your state. 2. Smiling is a great way to elevate your mood. Or any other way. Dancing. 3. Visualisation - you can imagine running in nature or anything else that you associate with health. Do these sessions as often as you can during the day. You can do either short or long sessions. Doesn't matter. The more of them you do, the quicker you will see the results. Hope this helps!
Just love Jason, such a kind compassionate person. If Jason can go from the absolute depths of despair and questioning if he wants to be here, to fully healed we can too! Keep moving forward people 🥰
I Only want to say, what a wonderfull person , Gentle speaks about serios things. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU. I already feel that i can be healthy and its a very Good feeling GUN from Sweden
Jason - I had a consultation with you about a year ago and was super skeptical of the brain retraining, so if you see this, I apologize! it just wasn't the right time for me and I wasn't bought in. I'm sure it has happened to you many times, but I want to thank you for everything you do!
Thanks so much for sharing, John. 🙏 This is such an important topic - brain retraining is an amazing tool, but not necessarily the first step in the recovery process.
Thank you for this interview! I love Jason’s videos and this one is so incredibly helpful. You’re both such amazing people for putting all of this information out there, thank you ❤
I spent most of my money on supplements, massage tools, e bike,. The desperation is real but over years you do improve. Im still battling at 7 years still awful system but getting out more. I too want to get over the finish line and know whats its like to get up and feel good with refreshing sleep. Its been so long...
❤❤ very inspiring how powerful thinking and speaking differently can improve our health so much. Thanks for posting! I am up to about 80% in my recovery and I am wondering what types of work people get into after they are 100%? Have you seen patterns of people choosing less stressful work or does the brain retraining mean you can go out and do anything that speaks to your heart? Would love a video on this focusing on what jobs folks have and how their relationship to the work changed!
I have M.E cfs and my husband thinks its so awful to charge people money when they have the knowledge of how to get better. I am so grateful for all the videos of recovery stories as I went through absolute hell for years as so many sufferers do.
Your husband should read an introductory economics book. I recommend "Economics in One Lesson," but I'm sure any will disabuse him of that profoundly ignorant position.
Unfortunately after paying thousands of dollars for his program I had to learn so much more about this illness to get out. His program is way overpriced 😢. Thanks to sooooo many other tools I’m mostly recovered now.
$2500 I was quoted and in a strange delayed kind of reveal :/ seems like his work can be helpful but was discouraged by the stress-inducing sales tactics..
Sadly you are not the only one. Who appears to have paid a huge amount of money to do a program that didn't quite get you over the finish line. Glad to hear that you are doing well now.
I figured out that the type of retraining matters very significantly, focusing on what makes the biggest difference for you, adaptation and customization can be very important for best results!
Were you ever told you had mold illness? I have toxins but I have these same symptoms and I’m working to detox but my levels are 1/2 what they were last year and I haven’t seen much improvement. Anxiety and panic are the worst.
@@Eliokd both really. I had Candida overgrowth from mold exposure but some don’t get Cándida from it and get other issues. The mold is just the tipping point for the nervous system is my opinion and probably not the root cause of the issue.
@kaylaberry7983 I think the best way to heal is to get away from the mold first and regulate your nervous system back so you can detox. That's how i see people are doing it
@@Eliokd not completely yet and I have gliotoxin which is what it produces. The meds for it are strong and my nervous system acts up when I take them but I eat coconut oil and try to keep sugar and simple carbs out of my diet as much as I can. My ent is AMAZING and scopes my sinuses every 3 months to see if I have any so we can get it before it causes worse issues.
While we might hope for free services, it's unrealistic to expect professionals to work without compensation. Everyone deserves fair compensation for their hard work and expertise. Otherwise we would be expecting all health professionals emts, nurses, doctors to charge for free.
@Karmak87wilkjeu No one is saying it should be free. People are saying it's over priced for a course that has not much science currently backing it, and a man with no qualifications.
👉 ✅ Come join me in my new course! 🧠 Brain Retraining 101: For ME/CFS and Long Covid Recovery. Enroll now: raelan-agle-s-school1.teachable.com/p/brain_retraining_101
Jason's a nice fella but charging +$1800 for a CFS program really raises ethical concerns, given the financial and physical challenges of the target audience,potentially excluding those who need the program the most.... Really not ok
Estrogen has a huge impact on these symptoms
Why has Jason been on this channel 3 times just advertising his program. Disappointed.
to put more unkind comments in the world just tells the world what you are focusing on
The reason I say this are four fold.
1. Any other medical treatment has an efficacy rate, yet in almost all brain retraining cases I can think of this is not shown. There is a spurious suggestion it's below 20 percent.
2. I do not understand the price tag associated with the treatment as the overhead costs are far lower than medical research that has governance, trails, labor and material costs etc etc.
3. In reality the main point isn't even the high price. Everybody would pay the price if, and it's a big if, it had a good efficacy rate and there wasn't an opportunity cost associated with doing the program. People have only so much money to treat themselves and it is important to pick the method that works before you run out of money for an effective treatment. Hence why fair pricing and statistical efficacy for an individual's case is so important and crucially fair for the patient.
4. In another scenario if someone said. We can't scientifically define the problem, there is no solid scientific evidence there is a problem. We can't categorically say everyone has the same problem here. We have no effective solution for the problem. But if you pay a large sum of money we can retrain you to think differently about the problem, but I don't have any statistics or hard evidence to show it works. I think most people would ask if you were a religious person, because you sure would have a lot of blind faith.
@@Karmak87wilkjeuyou just created an account today on UA-cam and are defending him a lot. Just odd.
How do you hike 9 hours after 6 weeks when for 11 years you barely did anything? Don’t you need training for that? Don’t your muscles and feet die without training? 😂😅
I went from walking 30 minutes a day for 9 months + before I did retraining, then within 2 weeks I climbed a small mountain and within 8 weeks I was fully better. I know that sounds unusual and yes my muscles and joints had big adjustments to make lol, but it is possible, with brain retraining, deep relaxation, confidence, self compassion, really supporting and assisting your body's natural healing ability, it is amazing what can happen. The timeframe is not that important but it does show what can happen even after a decade or more of CFS.
@@ICanThrive I do believe it, as a sidenote though: I think people with severe trauma/unprocessed emotions or negative self belief should ALSO do some kind of traumawork or CBT. You can stuff it away with brain retraining but I think it's more effective to do BOTH for the long run.
I did the Lightning Process about six years ago. I had had cfs for 20 years by then and was occasionally able to walk fifteen minutes and then bang, down I went again and again😬within a couple of weeks after the LP course I was walking up to 7ks at a time, three times a week, totally mind blowing, so much so I had to stop as I went at it too hard and too fast and it caused me great anxiety as I was sooo desperate ( surprise surprise 😬) so I believe it does work BUT you need to be ready and in the right mindset and of course do it with compassion and kindness to yourself 🥳
@@nolamayer4101 and like I said, if you have severe trauma or surpressed emotions it's like rowing against the stream. It's possible but you make it yourself much easier if you combine it with trauma processing, journalspeak, inner child work etc. IF you need it.
@@nolamayer4101 and now you are 100%?
Different courses work for different people. Choose the course that resonates for you. I’m staying out of the discussion as to whether Raelan and Jason should be charging less, but I will say there are cheaper and very comprehensive programs out there like the Gupta Program and also Jan Rothney’s book. I’m only saying this, because I know how desperate people can get and there’s so much choice out there now it can be overwhelming. Choose wisely people!
Thank you, JoLevi! ❤ Much appreciated 🙏
His fees are no more expensive than others that offer similar and raelan is not charging very much really for her course in the scheme of things.
@@JacquiQ$2500 isn’t much? I’ve saved that and more by researching for myself on my illness. Not one person out there has come close to the information I have gained and used. I’m still trying new things out that are also helping.
@@Dionysus_Athena$2500 is for Jason's program? Where does it come from? I'm genuinely asking as there's no info on his website
I wanted to add same bad feedback as others re his program. Close relative joined his program while ago and its very disappointed. It's wayyyy overpriced for the amount of content and support. It's really basic. U can watch all His videos in 24h no bother. His 1to1 calls is all the same, repeated call every time ,which dosnt including anything new or really work on the issue. I'd say the most cost shud b abt 400/500 def not 2500! He dosnt put himself into it. He recored few vid years ago and that it. My relative got allot more help for the fraction of that cost from other program providers.
Highly NOT recommended!
I concur. Very disappointed in what is offered for the price. Especially disappointed with the supposedly FB support group that he doesn't pay much attention to. (His words not mine) No point asking for support when it doesn't get posted for 3 or 4 days. I wish I hadn't thrown all my money away or I would be doing the Re-Origin program for half the price which I didn't find out about till much later.
Thank you Raelan for another great interview and wonderful introduction! I really enjoyed sharing this empowering information and I hope everyone enjoys it!!
My pleasure! ❤️❤️❤️
Sad to see that everything become a business instead of really helping people.
Yea, this guy. This man wanted to charge me $2000 to go on his 'brain retraining' program. After a back and forth over email and a video call, I still had questions as this is a lot of money for someone who is chronically ill, as you well know. He replied, "I don't have any more time to convince you to join my program".. basically.. take it or leave it. That was the end of that. Disgusting the way a lot of these so called practitioners with absolutely no qualifications pray on the weak and the sick.
I spoke to him a while back and was surprised when he told me his fees. It put me right off to be honest.
On one hand they say "I want to help people" when they should say "I want to help rich people"... The fees are disgusting. @@peachesmcgee4795
That's crazy! There are many other coaches and program thankfully
I was fortunate enough to have the support I needed so I can afford and looking back it was my mindset I had letting the limit of cost affect my decision towards my health as it is 100% worth my full recovery! I am Super grateful
While we might hope for free services, it's unrealistic to expect professionals to work without compensation. Everyone deserves fair compensation for their hard work and expertise. Otherwise we would be expecting all health professionals emts, nurses, doctors to charge for free.
Jason was very pushy. I'm in sales myself and I felt very uncomfortable with his outdated sales tactics.
Can somebody at least reveal one of those mysterious "braintraining-exercises" that they offer on those programs, so as to get a good impression whether those recovery programs are really worth it?
Hello, I shared a free in depth video about brain retraining in a previous interview with Raelan here: ua-cam.com/video/zYG9vmbK31M/v-deo.htmlsi=omgJd6m8gW6joNRS
The key strategies are meditation, journaling and a deep dive into what mind patterns create stress in your life. This varies from person to person so there's value on coaching if within your budget.
Main difference between courses & online info is that those are in order and have specific testimonies or things that worked for other ME/CFS patients
Hi there. Brain retraing is simple techniques, collected into one session (people who do it, often call it a round, because DNRS calls it like this).
What we aim to achieve is to
1. Stop unhelpful thoughts
2. Elevate mood
3. Visualize health or something nice and positive
1. This is a stop technique. You basically can just say stop whenever you catch an unhelpful thought about symptoms, a doubt about recovery, ruminating thought which is unhelpful to your state.
2. Smiling is a great way to elevate your mood. Or any other way. Dancing.
3. Visualisation - you can imagine running in nature or anything else that you associate with health.
Do these sessions as often as you can during the day. You can do either short or long sessions. Doesn't matter.
The more of them you do, the quicker you will see the results.
Hope this helps!
@@forisma sounds like the Gupta program.
@@ultrafeel-tv This is based on Gupta program indeed. I find that these 3 things are essential for brain retraining rounds.
Just love Jason, such a kind compassionate person. If Jason can go from the absolute depths of despair and questioning if he wants to be here, to fully healed we can too! Keep moving forward people 🥰
Thank you both so much, you wonderful people😊. Your kindness and generosity is so inspiring.
Thanks so much, Domsterman! 🌟
You are totally welcome, great to hear you enjoyed this and have fun implementing these strategies!!
Thank you both for giving us encouragement that healing is absolutely possible ❤
I Only want to say, what a wonderfull person , Gentle speaks about serios things. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU.
I already feel that i can be healthy and its a very Good feeling
GUN from Sweden
Jason - I had a consultation with you about a year ago and was super skeptical of the brain retraining, so if you see this, I apologize! it just wasn't the right time for me and I wasn't bought in. I'm sure it has happened to you many times, but I want to thank you for everything you do!
Thanks so much for sharing, John. 🙏 This is such an important topic - brain retraining is an amazing tool, but not necessarily the first step in the recovery process.
@@RaelanAgle very true! and now i'm in the position where other people get angry with me when I try and point out brain retraining as an option..
Thank you for this interview! I love Jason’s videos and this one is so incredibly helpful. You’re both such amazing people for putting all of this information out there, thank you ❤
Brilliant jason, thank you that was so helpful❤
So great, thank you Jason for sharing that info with us !
I spent most of my money on supplements, massage tools, e bike,. The desperation is real but over years you do improve. Im still battling at 7 years still awful system but getting out more. I too want to get over the finish line and know whats its like to get up and feel good with refreshing sleep. Its been so long...
❤❤ very inspiring how powerful thinking and speaking differently can improve our health so much. Thanks for posting!
I am up to about 80% in my recovery and I am wondering what types of work people get into after they are 100%? Have you seen patterns of people choosing less stressful work or does the brain retraining mean you can go out and do anything that speaks to your heart? Would love a video on this focusing on what jobs folks have and how their relationship to the work changed!
Great information, thank you!
Very inspiring, thank you both for your time 😊
I have M.E cfs and my husband thinks its so awful to charge people money when they have the knowledge of how to get better. I am so grateful for all the videos of recovery stories as I went through absolute hell for years as so many sufferers do.
Stay strong and immerse yourself in recovery stories, Esther ❤️ You can do this! ❤️❤️❤️
Your husband should read an introductory economics book. I recommend "Economics in One Lesson," but I'm sure any will disabuse him of that profoundly ignorant position.
Unfortunately after paying thousands of dollars for his program I had to learn so much more about this illness to get out. His program is way overpriced 😢. Thanks to sooooo many other tools I’m mostly recovered now.
Thousands!!?? Oh my...
$2500 I was quoted and in a strange delayed kind of reveal :/ seems like his work can be helpful but was discouraged by the stress-inducing sales tactics..
What helped you heal if you don't mind?
@conquerchronicillness what were some other tools you found vital to your healing?
Sadly you are not the only one. Who appears to have paid a huge amount of money to do a program that didn't quite get you over the finish line. Glad to hear that you are doing well now.
Thank you!
So helpful! Took many notes. Thank you so much. ☺️
THANK YOU 🌹
You are welcome!!! ❤
CAN ONE HEAL FROM EMF SENSITIVITY?
Yeah I've been doing brain training for 6 months and I'm not better yet.
I figured out that the type of retraining matters very significantly, focusing on what makes the biggest difference for you, adaptation and customization can be very important for best results!
Were you ever told you had mold illness? I have toxins but I have these same symptoms and I’m working to detox but my levels are 1/2 what they were last year and I haven’t seen much improvement. Anxiety and panic are the worst.
Candida overgrowth u mean or mold exposure?
@@Eliokd both really. I had Candida overgrowth from mold exposure but some don’t get Cándida from it and get other issues. The mold is just the tipping point for the nervous system is my opinion and probably not the root cause of the issue.
@@kaylaberry7983 where you able to clear the candida overgrowth?
@kaylaberry7983 I think the best way to heal is to get away from the mold first and regulate your nervous system back so you can detox. That's how i see people are doing it
@@Eliokd not completely yet and I have gliotoxin which is what it produces. The meds for it are strong and my nervous system acts up when I take them but I eat coconut oil and try to keep sugar and simple carbs out of my diet as much as I can. My ent is AMAZING and scopes my sinuses every 3 months to see if I have any so we can get it before it causes worse issues.
Wow, this young man has such a privileged story. Disgusting to compare it to many of us. And trying to exploit vulnerable people for money.
While we might hope for free services, it's unrealistic to expect professionals to work without compensation. Everyone deserves fair compensation for their hard work and expertise. Otherwise we would be expecting all health professionals emts, nurses, doctors to charge for free.
@Karmak87wilkjeu No one is saying it should be free. People are saying it's over priced for a course that has not much science currently backing it, and a man with no qualifications.
@@akashajones6079 Definitely way over priced for what is offered.