Canon EF 85mm f/1.4 IS USM 'L' lens review with samples (Full-frame & APS-C)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Here we go with Canon's latest 85mm lens - this time featuring image stabilization. Can its image quality keep up with the latest competitors, though?
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Been shooting with this lens since it came out and color and overall image quality that it gives is unlike anything I’ve seen. An incredible lens and worth the price.
Full frame or crop?
Full frame 5d mkiv. Focus is more reliable and faster than the 85mm 1.2. The 1.2 is not worth the extra $.
Man, i am considering to buy sigma 85mm art... just read you comment... is it really worth the price? I know 'IS' like diamond thou
@@fullandstarving Yes. I've been fortunate to own many incredible lenses but I've never seen images jump out at me from the back of my camera like those that come from this lens. For me it just has a way of capturing contrast and color the way I've always wished. I shoot with a 5dmkiv.
even for landscape and long exposure photography? also 5 years later, do you still use this lens? would you recommend it now for someone who's starting?
My absolute go-to lens on my 5D Mark IV for pretty much everything. Love it.
That’s one hell of a combo 🍻
Can't wait for you to get an EOS RP or a used EOS R. Really want to see your results with the RF lenses. As a side note, I think the slightly lesser sharpness in this lens is why the new RF 85s do not come with IS.
From nitpicking on your video..I haven't used this lens personally and I may find it plenty sharp for my use.
True to some extent, though the tamron 85mm f1.8 is noticeably sharper than the canon in comparative tests even with IS and even with the canon stopped down.
Haven’t had a chance to see this yet - but so glad you’ve done this Chris. This one’s on my bucket list, I reckon.
Sharpness isn't everything; none of your clients will notice. Atleast this thing nails down focus every time. Sigma's focus inconsistency made me get rid of the art glass. The canon sure is A LOT faster aswell + IS.. much more practical.
That's what I have experienced with the Sigma.
It really is the sharpest lens I've owned but... only impressive if you can make it practical.
The weight destroyed the sharpness in slower shutter shots in low-light portrait, unless I use tripods.
My client yawned, tired of waiting me prepared and repeating the same shots due to AF issues.
Did you calibrate the lens with the dock?
@@Johanreyfoto I did. Even tried to combine it with Canon's micro-adjustment.
It makes zero consistency through viewfinder, but always nailed using DPAF in Live View. Exactly what Christhoper explained in a separate video about the 85mm Sigma.
If I were using EOS R, I might still love the Sigmas.
I have the original Sigma 85 1.4 [Pre-Art series]. Sharpest lens I have, but as you say, that focus would only work when it wanted to.
Pity.
@@stans5270 If you use sensor based AF, you might find it focused more often. That is, unless you gone mirrorless, you have to shoot using the back screen on DSLR.
But the reason we shoot through viewfinder is to make it less prone to camera shake. If the lens so heavy, in critical light situation you might have to use tripod everytime which is not practical to do generic shots.
i’ve never clicked on a video so fast
I have plenty of old "forgotten" lenses which are actual still pretty amazing : ) makes me want to go and make some videos about them too
One of the best Canon L lens .. I get once and very satisfied with it
The Auto Focusing System on IS USM Lenses is Bar None Super Quick.
Hello Chris. I havent watch your videos for a while. Makesme glad to hear that classic piano music in the background. Only thing missing is the brickwall test. Good video. 🙂
Chris I’m sure you’re excited for the 7 new XP Samyang lenses that are going to be released. The 10mm f/3.5 XP was announced a few days ago.
Yup, very excited :-)
It would be nice to see a review of this on the new RF system cameras.
I agree. I use it on my R6 and R8 and it is crispy!!
after the new samyang 85 1.4 AF for canon you can do an 85 showdown!!!
Yes! I really wish to see 85mm IS vs non-IS 85mm on in-camera stabilisation of A7R II and how it compares.
I sold my Samyang 85mm F1.4 AF after 3 months. The AF wasn't good and barely got focus correct. Trying to calibrate it in camera did NOTHING, and there wasn't any other ways to calibrate it at the time. So the Samyang one was sharp, but AF was bad.
I for instance sold nearly all my AF lenses and I only use Laowa 12mm f2.8, Voigtlander 40mm f1.4 with macro on/off leica adapter and Samyang 85mm XP f1.2
With sony cameras manual focus is so easy..
Well, Samyang is not weather sealed :)
I've been waiting for tous video for a while, thanks !
Thank you Christ, I've been waiting this review for quite a while.
I think I will switch to this from the Sigma Art soon. I've impractical experience with that 'amazing' lens.
How do you rate this compared to the old 1.2l?
Christopher. I think you have the best voice on UA-cam. Have you done any audiobook narration or other commercial voice work?
Nope, hehe
Can’t decide if I should get this one or the older f/1.2 brother. Dang!
This one
Time to sit back and relax
Thanks for the review Chris, I've seen that Samyang XP 35mm f1.2 is finally available so I hope You will get to review it soon. Also I don't know if You've seen but Samyang announced another XP lens, 10mm f3.5 😁
I know nikon uses lens corrections built into their cameras. I think when you put the Canon lens on the Sony, you got to see how much these automatic in-camera lens corrections perform. I know my Nikon D700 can correct a fair bit distortion and color fringing automatically though it isn't perfect when you're using vintage glass, it's still useful. Good to see Canon seems to do this too.
Christopher, I've used this lens and the Sigma 85/1.4 Art on the Canon 5Ds and I have to admit that The sigma is that slightly Sharper, although I only Ever really stop down to a maximum of 3.5 as its my Main Portrait lens in the Studio
I sold the sigma for the canon
and now sold the Canon and Got the Sigma back
thank you for all the Videos you Produce, You are an indispensable Reviewer anI i always suggest & link your videos when people ask me about Camera equipment!
All the best!
In connection with the 5DSR my dream team for a year.
Thanks again for an honest review! Good work.
If you could rent a few 85mm lenses and do a comparison I think we'd all like one.
I will one day - the problem is that new ones keep coming out!
I will sometimes pair this lens with the 35/1.4 ii or 24/1.4 but when shooting during larger venue, I transition to 50/1.2 and 135/2 combo instead.
I hope when you make a review of lens later please tell us about the year of the lens made as well.
As your subscriber i want to suggest couple thing that you can considering it has to be done or not..
1. can you provide the file of test chart you do in some gdrive or dropbox? Since its hard to see in detail at my 5inch android
2. Can you ( in next videos) tell something about lens color rendering? I know it sometimes very subjective but atleast we got the starting point..like me, i always like and try some of canon L lense color rendering (1740, 70200, 2470, 24105) more than sigma 1835 f1.8 IN TERM OF COLOR RENDERING
I suggest you to do this since sometimes i got "cheated" ( not from your reviews ☺) as everybody always talk about SHARP SHARP AND SHARP , nobody mention about color reproduction and i may be a good idea for you to do as differetiator from another yutub reviewer
And last, since english is not my primary language, sorry for anything wrong and hope you got what my point is 🙏🙏
It's the contrast level that you probably care. The one that makes your shots popped, and color feel natural. Still great in harsh daylight like Indonesia.
This prime will sharper than any of your mentioned Canon zoom. Even the 50 f/1.8 does.
I think the f1.2 version is a tiny bit more contrasty, but not sharper than this one.
I agree. Color rendering is more important than sharpness.
@@kikipratama1 bener2 indonesia negara besar..udah make bahasa inggris ehh masi ketemunya org indonesia jg 🤣🤣
Iya omm..dulu saya punya sigma 18-35 ama 1740..untuk ketajeman ama bukaan emang sigma menang jauh TAPI urusan warna saya masi lebih suka 1740nya..gitu jg dgn nikon 35mm VS 2870..kalo tajemnya jg imbang cuman tone warnanya saya jauh lebih suka 2870nya
@@milikitaworkshop1540 Habisnya udah jarang ketemu pengguna Canon, hehe...
Tapi beneran sih. Kalau dibanding Sigma ART, sebenernya Canon L gak pernah tajem sebanding. Tapi daya kontras dan tangkapan detilnya bagus. Jadi seolah ilusi kalau lensa Canon berasa tajem.
Lensa Sigma ART juga banyak yang berat. Sering kedapetan yang AFnya suka meleset kalau motret lewat viewfinder, apalagi DSLR baru. Motret lewat LCD yang ber-DPAF bisa akurat, tapi jadi susah stabil.
Sayang juga punya lensa tajam kalau motretnya goyang atau gak praktis. Gak produktif.
Holy molly, Canon finally made a wide-aperture L lens with IS! Weird thing L lenses perform better on FF than APS-C bodies though.
Manh nguyen duc well they are designed for full frame
Why is it weird that a lens designed for full frame works better on full frame...?
@@AcidTripwire Well other FF lenses enjoy center sweet spot that spares them from corner softness and vignetting.
@@TonymanCS Partly true, the center of the lens is where the best glass is, but the only advantage of putting a full frame lens on a crop camera is that you can get 1.6x closer to your
subject in a way that is less destructive than cropping in post, and you don't have to worry about vignetting or corner distortion, as you said. When you only use a small portion of glass from the center of the lens, that glass is not capable of producing enough resolution to match the high pixel density of the sensor. Full frame lenses are simply not as sharp when used on a crop camera and never will be unless there is some miracle breakthrough in lens engineering. Only using the center of the lens will also highlight any imperfections in the glass and make them more obvious.
@@AcidTripwire Very well explained, thx!
Awesome lens, and great review. Greetings from Brazil.
Mais uma lente pra minha lista de lentes que eu queria mas que são caras por demais!
hi Chris thanks for making the great videos ,and for making them easy to understand. could you recommend a budget wide angle lens for a full frame ,new to full frame so it would be great for some advise.
Thanks for the honest review, Christopher, as always. In terms of image quality and autofocus accuracy, how do you think the 85 f/1.4 compare to the 85mm f/1.8?
The f/1.4 lens is better on both counts
@@christopherfrost thank you. How about the chromatic aberration?
@@christopherfrost thank you! What do you think of the new Tamron 85mm f1.8 Di VC USD compared to the Canon 85 f1.4 and the Canon 85 f1.8?
Hello Chris, Can you do a video on the AF version of samyang 85 f1.4 for canon please. It would be good competitor for this lens, just lacking the IS and in much lesser price. Thanks....
hi sir. I really want to see you review canon 70 200mm f2.8l is jam mark III. I hope you will do it soon.🙂🙂🙂
WOW! canon did great Job with this awesome Lens!
Thank you
Bro, can you please suggest one top best lense for portrait photography and candid videography.?
Hi chris, nice review. Which do you prefer, canon 85mm f1.4L or sigma 85mm art? Hows the AF compared to each other
I /slightly/ preferred the Canon - I like IS
Samyang 85mm f1.4 FE af is out. What a value compere to Canon version. Please Christopher. Do the test and compare!!!!
Nothing will be sharp when you’re out of focus. Accurate and fast AF outweighs nuances in image sharpness for me.
There were still at the time, af lenses with accurate autofocus yet sharper image quality. It's really only with the RF 85mm f1.2 that canon finally caught up and exceeded the competition, though at a crazy price.
I Chris just wondering what camera you using now I'm upgrading from a t6s 2 something
Hi there. Are you going to review Canon's RF lenses? Thanks.
One day, yes. I'm waiting to see what high resolution camera they're bringing to the table first
nice review but you missed out on showing IS performance of this lens as you usually show for other lenses in your videos
I did show it.
Do you have plans to review Samyang's latest 2 XP lenses? also looks like 2 Sony lenses are coming according to their teaser.
Why it behave differently between mirrorless and dslr?
In 6d there is no purple fringing right? But when it adapted to a7r BAAM the fringing shown up.
Bear in mind that the Sony sensor is far, far higher resolution - and so it picks up optical defects far more easily
Hey Chris! What would you choose? This one or Samyang AF 85mm f1.4 RF?
For a RP...
Might as well save a fortune and get the Samyang, IMO, unless you desperately want image stabilization
Christopher Frost Photography so IQ and rendering are comparable?
@@Francisfphoto_ The Canon lens should be a little sharper. Take a look at my review of it
6d still kicking butt ehhhh
impressive results
Have you considered including light transmission / T-values in your reviews?
Not really. It's tricky to measure, and I don't want my videos to be too long, and most of the time the T-value is only a little darker than the f-value.
I'm hoping you get to do a review of the new sigma 70-200
One day, yes
Is it worth it buying the Canon EF 50mm f/1.2 L USM in 2020
Hmm, I don't think it was really worth buying when it first came out
About weight.. If you want full frame and professional level equipment, you have to be strong. There are excellent micro four thirds and APS-C cameras that offer professional level build quality at half the weight. If you're a budding photographer and you want full frame with professional glass then you're going to have to carry that weight. There are better full frame options if you need to take your gear traveling but you'll have to use slower lenses. Rant over. I love a heavy body and lens. I weigh 70kg and can carry 20kg of gear for over four hours on foot through Bangkok. My secret: a gym membership. Professional equipment should never be criticized for weight unless it is unnecessary weight of course like the metal body Sigma 105mm Art. No need for complete metal bodies anyways especially in 35 degree heat.
Can you do a review of Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 IS STM MACRO plz
I already have
Portrait lens like this doesn't need the extra sharpness.
For $1600 it does. Especially when the Sigma is $600 less and beats it...
@@CriticalTechReviews But... the IS makes sense. I think I will trade my Sigma version with this one soon.
The Sigma's heavy, if it's not stabilized and AF'ed unreliably... no ammount of sharpness will matter.
In low light portrait shots, I believe this can make difference.
It also doesn't need a ton of purple fringing... for $1600 this lens is rather dissapointing imho.
@@kikipratama1 of course. I do agree that this lens is a better all-rounder for those situations in all likelihood. However, the higher creature comforts don't excuse the poor quality optics, especially not at this price.
@@TheBobes Well... at least it's Canon's (always expensive). You only buy for a name, especially as a first party and for a 'guaranteed' use.
I won't meet fringing for my type of shots so... I think people that shoots with bright, reflective scene will matter it most. Can't comment about that though...
Will you be reviewing the Sony 135mm 1.8?
Hopefully :-)
Can this work on a Crop Sensor Camera such as Canon 60D ?
Yes. 60D has the EF mount as well.
I just checked your photo in Samyang 85 f/1.4 FE Lens gallery, when are we going to see review of it
Be patient :-)
Hi Chris - have you been testing the Samyang 85mm 1.4 AF FE lens?
One of the images looks familiar here www.sonyalpharumors.com/samyang-85mm-f-1-4-fe-autofocus-lens-officially-announced/
I did a little beta testing for them - a review may come out soon :-)
@@christopherfrost very much looking forward to that :)
L lens and that much chromatic aberration?
why dont you add amazon or other shop affiliate links to buy those lenses? You would make some extra €€, and its fine by us all.
I have a Patreon - if ever people want to contribute then they're really welcome :-)
If you are staying with the EF mount, save your money and buy Sigma.
2:45 you said "f8" but in the bottom left corner it says f4
OH NOOOOO!!!!
I don't understand when sigma art is always mentioned how sharp it is but hard to compare when sigma is not weather sealed. I would use sigma art all the time if it was weather sealed. Without that one can think about having it on a pro. camera body and getting caught in the rain could ruin the lense and camera body too.
sigma art is weather sealed, what are you talking about mate
It is weather sealed, though probably not to the same degree as the canon. However there was another option at the time which was sharper, had IS, extensive and possibly better build quality and weather sealing, almost as good weather sealing and bokeh but slightly darker aperture. That was the tamron 85mm f1.8, sadly overlooked by many photographers due to having f1.8 instead of f1.4. The tamron was also MUCH cheaper.
wow!
I think it a little unfair to blame a Canon lens for purple fringing when you're using a Sony Camera with an adapter. Who's to say it's not the Sony and adapter causing the issue? It should be tested on a 5DS or DS-R for high MP tests, and then if still having fringing issues, so be it. I'll even accede the sharpness to the Art lens, but I can't agree with an adapted camera when doing a critical test.
..Joe
Because a tube of air does not make lens defects.
@@TheMetalButcher
No, but it can extend or shorten the focal point, which can alter the lengths of the glass to the sensor.
Got another idea?
..Joe
Joe, you are incorrect. The adaptor contains nothing but air. It does not affect image quality at all. As for 'extend or shorten the focal point', well, that's what focusing is for.
@@christopherfrost
No, if the focal plane is required to be (for example) exactly 2.3 mm from the sensor, and the adapter is 2.35, all the AF in the world is not going to correct the resultant chromatic aberration. I'm an astronomer- we see this problem all the time in telescopes when trying to adapt different visual backs. Incorrectly distanced backs will make a perfect apochromatic refractor telescope go all aberrant. Same principle- the back mirror (or the first lens of the eyepiece) is not the exact distance needed from the focal point, so it starts to separate the light waves into red, green and blue.
..Joe
@@aceflibble You're assuming there that the adaptor isn't flocked properly (my one is) - and also, the difference in individual sensor microlenses that you describe is only really going to affect vignetting levels on very wide angle lenses. You're also assuming that the adaptor is slightly the wrong size - even the cheaper ones are precision manufactured to be correct.
Sharpness alone does not equate to image quality... if you can't focus your lens reliable, that will affect image quality, so will unreasonable compression, color, rendering, etc.. Sigma started producing huge well-corrected lenses at the expense of everything else... character, AF, rendering.
After seeing this, everybody will go for sigma
Can u review the Sony alpha7R lll?
I don't do camera reviews I'm afraid
Any particular reason
???
@@Yoheshwar9886 Time and money.
@@Yoheshwar9886 !!!
maybe not use a Canon lens on a Sony camera when doing a review
Your sample headshots are usually not well-edited for brightness/contrast. They are often yellowish; would be great if you can correct this. For portrait lenses review, please show more sample shots of the human face as some photographers prefer a lens that is not brutally sharp (eg, in the 1980s, the Nikon 105 f2.5 lens is very desirable for taking pleasant headshots).
Memo to Chris :The boss says you really should not be coveting stuff.
Is the new RF 85mm going to make this EF 85 look like a obsolete blurry turd like the RF 50mm did to the EF?
Not quite - this EF 85mm f/1.4 is actually still very sharp whereas the EF 50mm f/1.2 was always unimpressive technically
@@christopherfrost I'm curious about the defocus smoothing version though
WOW! You mean the stabilization Sony had for the last 2 years in their even cheap cameras... Got it.
using in a sony is not a fair test
Why?
I agree you can't test canon lens with sony adaptor and Sony camera
@@dariuszpodolski3107Other lenses fared pretty well when adapted, the canon lens is just no that greate technuically. And actually, I think it is all the more fair today since we have the R5 with 45 mp insted of 42mp with the sony, which means that imperfections will be all the more highlighted. Better to be disappointed at first and save 1600$ for a better lens rather than ignore the warnings and regret it later.
give me one lens..👏
What is it with Indian people on UA-cam asking me to send them free stuff at the moment. Do you think I own all this equipment, and that I can afford to just give it away?
Good, bud overpriced lens, 1559€... :-(
Give it to me as a gift, brother
Wow 2lb I could imagine how heavy on 1d body
FYI... There is someone who has outright stolen your review and has published it on UA-cam with a link to buy the product. If you didn't give permission, you might want to check this out: ua-cam.com/video/4KpXRqIzYgk/v-deo.html&index=7&list=WL
Thanks for letting me know, I'll be in touch with UA-cam about them :-)
First !!! Dammit!!
This review cannot be further from the real-world usage of the lens. Nobody cares in real life about vignetting or sharpness in the corners. If you shot people you WANT dark fuzzy corners. Often you have to shoot with a distorted lens to make them less fat. Women are now used to 28mm from the iPhone they are not comfortable with pictures made with 85mm or 135mm lens.
In real life you will have 2-3x times more sharp pictures with Canon, then Sigma. Because you will get much, much more successful pictures thanks to the IS, better and faster autofocus. That is what counts on this lens and in real life. Not corner at f8.
Handheld video on both full frame and crop are a huge advantage of this lens and only this lens when it comes to short telephoto and large aperture.
You cannot ignore focus precision, mention speed in one sentence and bokeh in just a few of them. You have to change your methodology. People that watch your videos would think sharpness is the most important thing on the lens. And that is not the case.
Sharpness is just one thing that I've covered in this review - if you watch it properly you'll see that I cover all aspects of the lenses performance. If you're not interested in sharpness, just skip past that particular test.
Third
4th
Sony colors also look pretty "Sony" .. Canon is much better
Your review is so irritating.... Same examples.. 🙄😡
What else should he shoot???
Canon fails again
I hardly view it as a failure. Just because the Sigma equivalent is very slightly sharper...