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I wonder if they have any blacksmith friends, and try to recreate a functional version of these strip mall weapons, similar to the "Cory Builds" videos. That would be a series I would follow.
In defense of the Batman knife, I like to carry a pocket knife with two blades. I would never use both at once, but I like having one blade to abuse opening packages and prying crap, and one to keep nice and sharp. That specific knife is still bulky and dumb, but the existence of two blades in one folding knife is very reasonable.
Our ancestors carried multiblade knives for bushcrafting, skinning etc on long hunts in the pioneer days & double bladed daggers were a thing in 16th-19th century India. You can still buy tourist replicas today actually but they are not meant to be used.
You call opening packages abusing a knife? Lmao. I get what you're saying and you're right. But really for most people it's more like one blade can be used for cutting thin wire and ACTUALLY doing minor abuse. The other end would be for regular opening tasks. Unless you need a brand new Razer sharp blade at all times. But keeping a blade and not even cutting packages with it is basically pointless. Better yet.. Carry a self defense fixed blade and a folder for rough cuts so your SD blade stays sharp. Throw in a multi tool, handgun, small flashlight, lighter, and you're good for almost every situation.
@@Sheridantank Opening packages probably doesn't really count as abuse, but I really hate it when a blade gets gunked up with glue from cutting tape. I know it's easy enough to clean off, but it's sort of a pet peeve thing.
I get what you're saying but I don't think that's as unusual as you think. Pretty much every Swiss Army knife has more than 1 blade, even the smallest one has 1 blade and scissors, which I would count as a blade.
The Wolverine claws remind me of an Indian (from-India) weapon called a _bagh nakh_ (literally "tiger's claw"), where the claws are on the palm side of the weapon instead of the knuckle side, kind of cupped in your fingers. Rather than punching, they're used to make open-handed swiping attacks like an actual tiger's claw.
Japan has a similar one- the shuko AKA tekagi-shuko. Supposedly it was a tool for climbing used by ninja and sometimes was used as an improvised weapon.
when going through culinary school we had multiple sets of "claws" that we used when dealing with ice blocks, one specifically we used at the end of the day to destroy the sculptures, and it looked a hell of a lot like those wolverene claws, just, without the skulls and crap, they worked rather well for destroying those sculptures. and it was loads of fun to do. before anyone asks, we were legally required to break up the ice sculptures into chunks no larger than golf balls, so that people couldnt come steal them, and do serious damage with them, if we didn't, and someone did, WE would have been responsible for the damages.
@@chaos_omega IKR, its some insanity, for sure, but, just imagine the headlines, "ice swan destroys car, and causes massive pileup on US 1, 4 dead and dozens injured." like.....even if we wouldn't be held legally responsible, we would have known it was one of our sculptures, so we would have been morally obligated to report that to the cops, and give them the security footage, and then our school would be in the news, for bad stuff, which would give the school a bad name, even though the school and the students didn't have anything to do with it... its better all around to avoid all that, be it a legal requirement or not....IMO anyway.
Tell me more? Has this happened before? How big are your sculptures usually I just can't understand how an ice sculpture is considered dangerous when I could cause some serious damage with a steel chair
@@brandonfoley7519 yeah man, these things start out as multi hundred pound SOLID blocks of ice, the size of a older child (about 4 feet tall) and at the end of the process, most of the height, and loads of the weight remains, its just distributed differently, and shaped to look like a swan, or whatever., even at the end of the day when they have melted considerably, they STILL weigh more than 50-75 pounds, thats the weight of MULTIPLE concrete cinder blocks, that much weight, dropping 20+ feet off of an overpass would do serious damage to any vehicle it hits, and could very well kill anyone inside said vehicle, not to mention the pileup that the random wreck would cause due to the traffic all going about the same speed, crammed together, and not having time to react, put all that together and you elevate it from one life lost to many lost and potentially hundreds injured. single rocks smaller than a cinder block have cause events of a similar nature, and people have also done it with cinder blocks, spare tires, microwaves, all it takes is something heavy, falling from a height enough that it builds up speed in the fall, and pretty much no matter what it is, it could cause some serious damage. and that is the reason that many overpasses have a large fence over the top of them, to prevent not only people jumping, but also people dropping things off.
There were double bladed daggers in history as well as multiblade knives. Also the wolverine claw does have a net disadvantage in having 3 even length claws. It distributes the force across larger surface area meaning it will wreck its cutting/stabbing potential. A better idea would be the Indian push dagger.
1. The tekkogaki was a farming tool, sharpened to scratch and tear at armour, with the tips, but moreso kept flat horizontally to use that distribution as an advantage to swat away samurai blades.
@@Jorvalt the advantage here is that you have 3 blades to block other bladed weapons with the back of your hand or to catch the sword and break it off. (think batman begins) this was an actual thing taken advantage of with weapons like the sword breaker dagger or the tekko kagi. it's just that the guy in the video has no idea
The hook on the Kopesh is not for striking, its was used for hooking and yanking away shields or weapons. Although you can rotate it around a head and get some interesting hit points using its shape.
That Kopesh looking sword, it's a pizza cutter. The other end is also supposed to have something on it to keep your hands safe. Then you use it like those pizza cutters that make a pizza look like it's made from slices taken from different pizzas.
It's the hook for redirecting weapons the moon looking part on the hilt was XD ironically eye gougers the bladed part well what blades do and yes the hand area is for punching and if your good enough drive the hook down to the side coming back with the blade then driving the moon to your possibly dazed and now heavily injured enemy your welcome
Another plus side to the Legally Distinct Batarang (TM) is the same philosophy behind 2 sided axes for woodsmen .... One "main" side is used and abused, the secondary "reserve" side is honed to a sharper angle for fine woodworkin You could have a "who gives a shit slash 'em and get away/screwdriver" *and* an "emergency surgery scalpel sharp" side all in the same knife Please ignore that Swiss Army Knives already exist And that I (TM)'d a thing I already said was legally distinct
For those wolverine esque claws there is an actual real life equivalent! (Sort of) They're called Bagh nakhs which roughly translates to "Fist-Load" or "Tiger's claw", a pair of rings go over your index and pinkie finger, the claws on the inside of your hard, the curve following your fingers, they were most famously used by various assassin's who loaded them with poisons, however they were often used by certain Sikh groups as a weapon that could be easily hidden in their turbans, and women of these groups were encouraged to carry them while traveling in dangerous areas for self protection, there were also certain forms of wrestling that used them and these when properly sharpened were brutally effective, especially when targets at areas like the neck, arm pits, inner thighs and gut, which combined with certain Indian martial arts makes them very effective weapons!
In all reality I’m waiting for Jason to find that one shop that sells shields and like semi legitimate sharp video game swords that we have all seen but never bought and always wondered how they stay open cause no one ever buys anything there
Why is no one talking about how golden the line about the "Things Remembered Spear" is? Weapons with phrases like "Greatest Stepdad Ever" engraved in them is straight out of Discworld.
See these sorts of things at my local mall all the time and always think to myself: "Who would ever buy one of those?" Of course you guys do and I love watching you rag on them for entire episodes. 🤣 Keep 'em coming!
I actually have a few things from the set this sword is from. The sheath is a few mm thicker aluminum than a soda can, dropped it on a stair a few feet off the ground and it bent. There is a dagger that matches it though, which is about 50% thicker than the sword and has been kind of a go-to pocket knife when I don't have anything else nearby.
If it's anything like the version of that sword I once had. The blade is attached in the handle just below the "guard" and it's not even a good solid connection. It snapped off and the blade came flying out of the handle lol. Not even a full pin.
It's overly exaggerated but it is the form of an actual bladed weapon that was used for real. Kind of disappointing to see an "expert" pick it up and describe it as it it's not the most real and effective thing he's used yet. Makes me question your expert. Yup. just got to the point where he's claiming real steel swords don't flex smh. Someone sit this dude down and have him watch some forged in fire, so maybe it'll at leas sound like he knows what he's talking about.
it's supposed to be a 3rd of a average human size scale... the handle is supposed to be the length of her fore arm and held by the back of the arm to prevent stabing herself
Re: the Batman knife... He says that he's never seen anything like that as a historical weapon. But it's actually very similar to a Haladie. And there is another name for it as well (outside of Sudan) but I can't remember it at the moment. So there is actually a historical precedent for fighting with a 2-bladed dagger/knife like that.
@@GameTimeWhy I was also surprised that when they asked it the claws had a historical precedent he didn't mention either the bagh nakh or shuko. His focus is European, so it's not entirely unexpected but there's clear historical precedent for a clawlike weapon.
@@dangerszewski9816 yeah I understand his focus is European but that he doesn't seem to know anything about other cultural weapons is strange. Like even playing dnd or a lot of video games introduces us to different weapons that are used by other cultures.
The claws are at least based on actual ancient weapons from India which had 3 bladed claws and single short sword like blade "gloves". But India kind of took the cake for strange ancient weapons such as the belt sword (flexible sword) or the jointed sword or segmented one. The problem with the mall ninja version is that it doesn't actually match an effective design with too much space, wrong angles and poor support. The Kopesh hook, not that mall ninja one, but real ones were for hooking or locking enemy spears, weapons or to pull shields. Done on the backswing rather than rotate the blade itself, though they could have, I suppose, not really too much direct writing about Kopesh's use in the historic period of use in Egypt. We just kind of have to interpret the drawings on tombs and various artworks of the era.
If you swing hard enough, all those weapons can be effective! I know cause I watched all the movies with swords in it. Especially the ones with the people in silver armor.
IDC, i want 10 of them finger blades, made into a set of two gauntlets, like actual gauntlets, with mail and leather glove bits to protect your palms. don't care if its not really functional, it would look cool as hell.
Great video, as always, can't wait for the next one!!! As a note, the kopesh was designed specifically to counter the Roman sword and shield combo (or at least that's the common story), so the "hook" on the back of the blade (which is way over pronounced in that design) would have been used to pull the edge of their shield to create an opening and/or throw their opponent off balance. I'm not sure about the validity of any of this, but did think it was worth noting considering his comment that he wasn't familiar with the weapon... I'm sure someone knows more and will add/correct.
I'm pretty sure the khopesh predates the Roman gladius/scutum combo. Though, tall shields like that were in use for quite a while in the ancient world, so it need not be Romans it was designed for. I'm pretty sure the Romans adapted it from another culture, like they did with so many things!
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The Haladie is a double-edged dagger from ancient Syria and India, consisting of two curved blades, each approximately 8.5 inches (22 cm) in length, attached to a single hilt. Tekko Kagi were historical claw weapons from Japan. Th hook on the Khopesh isn't for attacks its for pulling obstructions out of the way of your attack.
@@GameTimeWhy I mean, I think they only called him a "swordsmith" or maybe bladesmith. That just means he makes at least 1 kind if blade or sword. Not really that he knows anything about them other than their construction. No historical or functional use knowledge required. If he was just judging construction from a practical point of view it would be one thing, but almost anyone can do that without any real experience.
There is actually historical precedent for the wolverine claw thing. The Neko-Te, meaning cat hand was used by actual ninja, They were mostly used as a climbing tool for getting over castle walls but I imagine they could be used for self defense in a pinch.
Been watching a lot of forged in fire, and there is a historical precedent for a couple of stuff. Like the double bladed batman knife looks similar to a thing called Deer Horn Knives. Then the skull claw thing is similar to a Katar and such. Then yeah, Khopesh blade, just poorly made and Anthony admitted he didn't know much about them. Then again last sword similar to a number of swords but poorly made.
That first claw thing is basically an oversized thread cutter ring, so potentially more highly specialized tool than weapon. Armoring just one finger seems to be a really weird flex, like showing your status by letting your fingernails grow ridiculously long to demonstrate just how little you have to do for yourself.
"Give me your attack roll" lol. You guys should invite Anthony when you do your D&D campaign. And maybe those guys from the Beerists, they seem like nerds
when I saw there was a hole in the middle of the sword hilt I immediately saw the image of Brian holding it in front of his face saying, "sword of dragons give me sight Beyond sight Beyond sight"
The first mall ninja weapon in this video *could* work if the blade was on the tip of the reaver claw rather than as the worlds' weirdest brass knuckle.
That kopesh is actually decently useful. Other than the poky but back at you and the balance, which can be fixed by a real smith making it, the hooked point can easily control people and weapons
@@axelskull I feel like you could make them useful without making them into a typical knife/sword. Like the wolverine claws, change the handle shape so it fits better, make the blades a bit thicker/sturdier, change the blade shape a bit to make it better for stabbing/slashing that sort of thing.
Yes! came here to suggest the same thing. He says it's comfortable, get someone who knows what they're doing to hole out the handle and add in a real blade. See if you can make that one useful.
10:09 There actually *is* historical precedent for that style of claw weapon, although it's pretty niche; the tekko-kagi are a modified form of tekko, which were threshing tools weaponized by Japanese ninja. Tekko-kagi were improvised weapons, and how effective they would have been is definitely up for debate, but they did exist! Feels outside of Anthony's port of call though, which is understandable.
So about the kopesh, they were built and used more similarly to axes than swords despite how they look. Bronze weapons were built to be fairly thick and durable since bronze was more malleable than steel, thus will bend more easily, though while still being basically completely useable if it does. This made bronze more or less unusuable as a sword material. The mall kopesh is still obviously not good, but it seems worse than it is because it looks unlike how it should be used
I'd like to point out a fact. The reason why we have never favored multiple bladed weapons in the past is due to the entire concept and the reason why you would use a knife or sword in a battle. You use a bladed weapon to slip past body armor in-between the seams. Also the knife or sword is ideally used to Peirce the torso in an attempt to stab the heart of your opponent. Multiple bladed would increase the chance that a rib will catch one of those blades and prevent a mortal wound. Also your blade might get imbedded on the bone leaving you defenseless and vulnerable to attack.
@@anon9469 the wound inflicted may be larger, more area that would be vulnerable to stab and the entire torso would be subject to slash type wounds/attack. All around a greater risk of sustaining fatal wounds. I really am unsure what I was unclear about. What I was hinting at was the reason why we don't see these gimmicks on historical weapons is because of the unreliability of the concepts as well as practical application failures. Try to lop an enemy's head off with 3 parallel blades? Fat chance. That would take 3x if not 3x squared amount of energy ie psi/Pascal's to achieve the same outcome or blade depth. Yes it very rarely was a one swing and done, you hit vertebrae more often than not.
@@jacobcoughlin2408 Please do the same yourself. I suggest one on how to properly spell and punctuate in English. Also, on a chaotic battlefield, it's almost impossible to get the level of fine control needed to push a blade between armor. Weapons designed for that - which, by the way, aren't just "any bladed weapon" - are designed for use on a knight in full plate who'd fallen off his horse and couldn't get up.
@@anon9469 hey bud, sorry for being brash I was having a rough day. You are right. The misspelling and punctuation is due to either stupid talk to text or the damned thumb typing. I don't usually comment on my phone because of the limitations. But pc was down due to MBR corruption. Anyway I was actually thinking about modern light infantry body armor and medium short to short swords, the damned bent backwards they use in the middle east still, in the context of my yesterday rant. Hopefully that clears things up. Also because of the chatbots that are just acting like me and you (supposedly the A.I. eventually get bored... I'm not 100% sure that we are at that level yet... Sceptical a bit) and just browsing the Internet, youtube and like bunches of pages simultaneously. We kinda do that but way less effective I'd suppose. Hey I have to apologize because typing helps me organize my thoughts and it never really matters what I type as long as my fingers are moving.. anyway have a good day. Well try waking up tomorrow and out loud the first thing you said was "today is going to be a good day!" Try it. I have a theory. We could do a Simon says game going on... Hmmm edit I'm totally too stoned at the moment this might get deleted
First claw one would be good in addition to gauntlets while holding a sword, more so less bladed more piercing, like going sword to sword and then being able to stab from like pressure of only 3 inches away would be sick utility
Lol. The klingon Bet'leth talk was funny to hear. it's the Kopesh looking blade. the back point, or bottle opener as they call it, was meant for catching on the back swing, similar to how a Nordic bearded axe was meant to catch and toss shields out of the way.
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In defense of that Batman knife: There is historical use of weapons like that! The Haladie for example is similar in concept en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haladie The Vajra-Mushti is more like a knuckleduster, but still some of those had actual blades like this Batman knife en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajra-mushti Also some Karambit has dual blades instead of one blade and one ring
The kopesh was intended for the removal of the limbs and to cut through leather and the occasional small piece of copper or bronze. if the one that you had was sharp enough you probably would have gone straight through the dummy. the blade was used something like a Saber and that used inertia as the primary reason for the cutting action. they did have an occasional hook that was used to move people or to drag someone when needed in combat but not often.
In defense of the Reaver’s claw, you’d WANT them in reverse, and built into a gauntlet rather than individual fingers. Better for backhands and punches than an actual replacement for a dagger. As for historical precedent, the Japanese Shinobi used Shuko, which were like a claw/brass knuckle hybrid weapon, used for combat and occasionally as a climbing aid. They were two metal rings bound by a strip of leather, but have evolved into a single ring connected to a adjustable wrist strap.
You guys really have outdone yourselves. I have never seen shittier mall ninja weapons than these. They are amazing! I am not sure I could stop laughing long enough to pay the cashier if I had to buy them for this video.
They have had the double blades in history before, but it takes training to use properly. The kopesh is a slicing/ chopping weapon ment to take off limbs.
I find it useful to remember that any “melee” weapon has to have the *structural integrity* to withstand/dissipate the ENTIRETY of the wielder’s Force Generated (plus/times leverage, centripetal force, etc). I prefer (significantly) overengineered due to my learned intolerance of catastrophic failure causing user injury… but that’s just my take.
At 6:55 seconds the historical precedence for a double blade knife can be found in China with the Deer Horn Knives... not saying it worked well, just that it was used in war.
On that first Reaver claw thing, the swordsman is WRONG! There ARE ring knives! They can be found in the Lake Turkana region of Africa- many have sideways blades, but some (there is one in particular on page 22 of DK's "Arms and Armour" Eyewitness book) are in-line with the finger like this one. Edit-add: Okay, apparently this'll be for a lot of them. Historical precedent for the two-sided dagger- there's a LOT. Fakir's horns, also the Haladie, which was featured on Forged in Fire, coming from India. The Wolverine claws, historically, could be linked, as they say, to Katars of various kinds, but also the 'tiger claw' Bagh Nakh, though that's a much shorter, palm-held weapon. Takti-cool Khopesh... Why. _Why?_ And of course the Sword-Shaped-Object. Which is some sort of unholy combination of tulwar, katana, and grosse messer?
Also the knifes of turkana aren't anything at all like the ring knife here. They are completely different in the way they are worn and the direction and blade is used. They share as many similarities as any katana and a urumi...both are held in the hand....thats it. So saying they're no historical president with the ring knife as it is here is accurate.
The bat knife can actually be used with Filipino martial arts kali style, the knife itself can be modified by users to have blades at both ends but again its to taste and prefered style of fighting, granted the top blade tends to be shorter than the top.
Interesting review. Thanks for putting this video together that helps educate with facts the reality of flimsy fantasy weaponry by giving pointers towards actual weapon mechanics and towards what is actually functional vs what is not 😎👍
Technically, there is a form of small buckler with daggers on ether end. However, that's like applying katana logic to a large kitchen meat cleaver. : /
the batman knife looks okey, just the bat handle's comfort is scary the kopesh hook is too wide to catch the oponents weapons, but it's a lot better than any previous stuff still utter cheap hanger stuff
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Apparently there were daggers like the Batman one. They were from India.
Do you guys not know how to use bladed weapons or knowledge of the how they are used historically or in modern times ?
There actually was a three claw weapon called the iron Claw. It was used in Asia and certain Europwan countries
I wonder if they have any blacksmith friends, and try to recreate a functional version of these strip mall weapons, similar to the "Cory Builds" videos. That would be a series I would follow.
that works would fit this to a T
Great idea
Where’s Alec Steele when you need him?!
Chris from Fearghall Blades? (the episode where they made a blade out of a farriers rasp)
Two that I'm aware of from previous videos. But most of these aren't functional ideas for forgable functional weapons
In defense of the Batman knife, I like to carry a pocket knife with two blades. I would never use both at once, but I like having one blade to abuse opening packages and prying crap, and one to keep nice and sharp. That specific knife is still bulky and dumb, but the existence of two blades in one folding knife is very reasonable.
Our ancestors carried multiblade knives for bushcrafting, skinning etc on long hunts in the pioneer days & double bladed daggers were a thing in 16th-19th century India. You can still buy tourist replicas today actually but they are not meant to be used.
You call opening packages abusing a knife? Lmao.
I get what you're saying and you're right. But really for most people it's more like one blade can be used for cutting thin wire and ACTUALLY doing minor abuse. The other end would be for regular opening tasks.
Unless you need a brand new Razer sharp blade at all times. But keeping a blade and not even cutting packages with it is basically pointless.
Better yet.. Carry a self defense fixed blade and a folder for rough cuts so your SD blade stays sharp. Throw in a multi tool, handgun, small flashlight, lighter, and you're good for almost every situation.
@@Sheridantank Opening packages probably doesn't really count as abuse, but I really hate it when a blade gets gunked up with glue from cutting tape. I know it's easy enough to clean off, but it's sort of a pet peeve thing.
Hunter buck knives and the spay skinner or razor knives have a main normal buck blade and another specialty blade
I get what you're saying but I don't think that's as unusual as you think. Pretty much every Swiss Army knife has more than 1 blade, even the smallest one has 1 blade and scissors, which I would count as a blade.
The Wolverine claws remind me of an Indian (from-India) weapon called a _bagh nakh_ (literally "tiger's claw"), where the claws are on the palm side of the weapon instead of the knuckle side, kind of cupped in your fingers. Rather than punching, they're used to make open-handed swiping attacks like an actual tiger's claw.
Japan has a similar one- the shuko AKA tekagi-shuko. Supposedly it was a tool for climbing used by ninja and sometimes was used as an improvised weapon.
@@chaos_omega the Japanese had actual claw weapons called tekko-kagi with the blades on the knuckle side.
I might be late to this video but I like how everyone's saying the Tiger Claw and I'm like that reminds me of Shredder from TMNT
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when going through culinary school we had multiple sets of "claws" that we used when dealing with ice blocks, one specifically we used at the end of the day to destroy the sculptures, and it looked a hell of a lot like those wolverene claws, just, without the skulls and crap, they worked rather well for destroying those sculptures. and it was loads of fun to do.
before anyone asks, we were legally required to break up the ice sculptures into chunks no larger than golf balls, so that people couldnt come steal them, and do serious damage with them, if we didn't, and someone did, WE would have been responsible for the damages.
I like how you would have been responsible for what some idiot decided to do all on their own... Just love how that works. Awesome.
@@chaos_omega IKR, its some insanity, for sure, but, just imagine the headlines, "ice swan destroys car, and causes massive pileup on US 1, 4 dead and dozens injured."
like.....even if we wouldn't be held legally responsible, we would have known it was one of our sculptures, so we would have been morally obligated to report that to the cops, and give them the security footage, and then our school would be in the news, for bad stuff, which would give the school a bad name, even though the school and the students didn't have anything to do with it...
its better all around to avoid all that, be it a legal requirement or not....IMO anyway.
@@stapuft theres only one thing missig from that headline, 'Florida man-...'
Tell me more?
Has this happened before?
How big are your sculptures usually
I just can't understand how an ice sculpture is considered dangerous when I could cause some serious damage with a steel chair
@@brandonfoley7519 yeah man, these things start out as multi hundred pound SOLID blocks of ice, the size of a older child (about 4 feet tall) and at the end of the process, most of the height, and loads of the weight remains, its just distributed differently, and shaped to look like a swan, or whatever., even at the end of the day when they have melted considerably, they STILL weigh more than 50-75 pounds, thats the weight of MULTIPLE concrete cinder blocks, that much weight, dropping 20+ feet off of an overpass would do serious damage to any vehicle it hits, and could very well kill anyone inside said vehicle, not to mention the pileup that the random wreck would cause due to the traffic all going about the same speed, crammed together, and not having time to react, put all that together and you elevate it from one life lost to many lost and potentially hundreds injured.
single rocks smaller than a cinder block have cause events of a similar nature, and people have also done it with cinder blocks, spare tires, microwaves, all it takes is something heavy, falling from a height enough that it builds up speed in the fall, and pretty much no matter what it is, it could cause some serious damage. and that is the reason that many overpasses have a large fence over the top of them, to prevent not only people jumping, but also people dropping things off.
There is a historical precedent for the double ended knife; the haladie, a weapon of ancient Syria and India
I said the same. India tended to have a lot of the oddball weapons, huh?
@@zeekeno823 Absolutely. I love stuff like the katar, patta, madu and bagh nakh
I said the same, but for got its name.
Also the deer horn knife or Crescent moon knife. although they are a bit different.
@@SirJakeriePippin Well, those are Chinese. But, they are in no short supply of bizarre weapons either! Hook swords, for example. Weird, but cool.
There were double bladed daggers in history as well as multiblade knives. Also the wolverine claw does have a net disadvantage in having 3 even length claws. It distributes the force across larger surface area meaning it will wreck its cutting/stabbing potential. A better idea would be the Indian push dagger.
multibladed weapons like that's only advantage is that it is a pain to stitch those wounds together
1. The tekkogaki was a farming tool, sharpened to scratch and tear at armour, with the tips, but moreso kept flat horizontally to use that distribution as an advantage to swat away samurai blades.
Distributing the force is in most cases not an advantage. You're going to get deeper wounds using a single blade as opposed to 2 or 3 simultaneously.
@@Jorvalt the advantage here is that you have 3 blades to block other bladed weapons with the back of your hand or to catch the sword and break it off. (think batman begins) this was an actual thing taken advantage of with weapons like the sword breaker dagger or the tekko kagi. it's just that the guy in the video has no idea
I feel, with the claws, it could be a decent weapon if the claws were fullt straight and with a false functional edge in the back, like a speartip
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Bro same! Best vids they make
Awesome! That's great to hear and yes we definitely have more coming.
The hook on the Kopesh is not for striking, its was used for hooking and yanking away shields or weapons. Although you can rotate it around a head and get some interesting hit points using its shape.
That Kopesh looking sword, it's a pizza cutter. The other end is also supposed to have something on it to keep your hands safe. Then you use it like those pizza cutters that make a pizza look like it's made from slices taken from different pizzas.
So... A mezzaluna? Ideal for mincing herbs and other stuff
It's the hook for redirecting weapons the moon looking part on the hilt was XD ironically eye gougers the bladed part well what blades do and yes the hand area is for punching and if your good enough drive the hook down to the side coming back with the blade then driving the moon to your possibly dazed and now heavily injured enemy your welcome
it is the sword of Diana (from League of Legends.)
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Another plus side to the Legally Distinct Batarang (TM) is the same philosophy behind 2 sided axes for woodsmen .... One "main" side is used and abused, the secondary "reserve" side is honed to a sharper angle for fine woodworkin
You could have a "who gives a shit slash 'em and get away/screwdriver" *and* an "emergency surgery scalpel sharp" side all in the same knife
Please ignore that Swiss Army Knives already exist
And that I (TM)'d a thing I already said was legally distinct
For those wolverine esque claws there is an actual real life equivalent! (Sort of)
They're called Bagh nakhs which roughly translates to "Fist-Load" or "Tiger's claw", a pair of rings go over your index and pinkie finger, the claws on the inside of your hard, the curve following your fingers, they were most famously used by various assassin's who loaded them with poisons, however they were often used by certain Sikh groups as a weapon that could be easily hidden in their turbans, and women of these groups were encouraged to carry them while traveling in dangerous areas for self protection, there were also certain forms of wrestling that used them and these when properly sharpened were brutally effective, especially when targets at areas like the neck, arm pits, inner thighs and gut, which combined with certain Indian martial arts makes them very effective weapons!
Also tekko kagi
In all reality I’m waiting for Jason to find that one shop that sells shields and like semi legitimate sharp video game swords that we have all seen but never bought and always wondered how they stay open cause no one ever buys anything there
because it's probably a front for your local 'phet dealer... if they're anything like the ones that used to be around where I lived.
I worked in a nerd merch store in germany called elbenwald, sold a giant game of thrones or LOTR sword every 1-2 weeks
Why is no one talking about how golden the line about the "Things Remembered Spear" is? Weapons with phrases like "Greatest Stepdad Ever" engraved in them is straight out of Discworld.
I'm amazed there was no mention of ThunderCats when looking at the dragon sword. Clearly it's supposed to be like the Eye Of Omens.
See these sorts of things at my local mall all the time and always think to myself: "Who would ever buy one of those?" Of course you guys do and I love watching you rag on them for entire episodes. 🤣 Keep 'em coming!
Forget the mall ninja, I prefer the plaza paladin
What about the "Food Court Cleric"??
or the drugstore druid
Bed, Bard and Beyond?
Sam's club samurai
Red tag rogue
As someone who works at Spencers, they nailed the aesthetic, but I wish it was as exciting as this.
The sheath for that sword seems easily a better weapon than the sword itself.
Yes!
Finally somebody wrote that!
That was my thought as well. Basically one solid piece, it would make a decent baton as far as I can tell.
I actually have a few things from the set this sword is from. The sheath is a few mm thicker aluminum than a soda can, dropped it on a stair a few feet off the ground and it bent. There is a dagger that matches it though, which is about 50% thicker than the sword and has been kind of a go-to pocket knife when I don't have anything else nearby.
If it's anything like the version of that sword I once had. The blade is attached in the handle just below the "guard" and it's not even a good solid connection. It snapped off and the blade came flying out of the handle lol. Not even a full pin.
My brother has one of those, its heavy as shit. You could easily kill someone with it.
That weird curved sword/Kopesh looking thing reminds me a lot of the sword used by Diana from League of Legends, probably a low quality replica?
It's a painfully bad and down scaled replica yes
It's overly exaggerated but it is the form of an actual bladed weapon that was used for real. Kind of disappointing to see an "expert" pick it up and describe it as it it's not the most real and effective thing he's used yet. Makes me question your expert. Yup. just got to the point where he's claiming real steel swords don't flex smh. Someone sit this dude down and have him watch some forged in fire, so maybe it'll at leas sound like he knows what he's talking about.
it's supposed to be a 3rd of a average human size scale... the handle is supposed to be the length of her fore arm and held by the back of the arm to prevent stabing herself
@@chrisdobbs9155 Homie you have no idea what you are talking about. Knew that the moment I saw you bring up "Forged in FIre" lmao
Re: the Batman knife... He says that he's never seen anything like that as a historical weapon. But it's actually very similar to a Haladie. And there is another name for it as well (outside of Sudan) but I can't remember it at the moment. So there is actually a historical precedent for fighting with a 2-bladed dagger/knife like that.
Yeah I was surprised that a "weapons expert" would not know that.
@@GameTimeWhy I was also surprised that when they asked it the claws had a historical precedent he didn't mention either the bagh nakh or shuko. His focus is European, so it's not entirely unexpected but there's clear historical precedent for a clawlike weapon.
@@dangerszewski9816 yeah I understand his focus is European but that he doesn't seem to know anything about other cultural weapons is strange. Like even playing dnd or a lot of video games introduces us to different weapons that are used by other cultures.
Or the Lujiaodāo (deer horn knives)
@@GameTimeWhy weapons expert as in how to use them....a swordsman, not an historian
so 2 sided knives actually were used in india. they were called haladie, although the blades weren't curved in the same direction like the batblade
Deer horn knives were double sided and indeed curved forward.
the hooked end of the Egyptian sword was ment for hooking shields to create a opening in combat
The claws are at least based on actual ancient weapons from India which had 3 bladed claws and single short sword like blade "gloves". But India kind of took the cake for strange ancient weapons such as the belt sword (flexible sword) or the jointed sword or segmented one. The problem with the mall ninja version is that it doesn't actually match an effective design with too much space, wrong angles and poor support.
The Kopesh hook, not that mall ninja one, but real ones were for hooking or locking enemy spears, weapons or to pull shields. Done on the backswing rather than rotate the blade itself, though they could have, I suppose, not really too much direct writing about Kopesh's use in the historic period of use in Egypt. We just kind of have to interpret the drawings on tombs and various artworks of the era.
Well there's also the tekko kagi which were claw like weapons fashioned from horseshoes in japan.
The khopesh thing looks like someone cut a bad tattoo out of sheet metal.
If you swing hard enough, all those weapons can be effective! I know cause I watched all the movies with swords in it. Especially the ones with the people in silver armor.
Anything is a hammer if you try hard enough.
i sincerely hope this is episode 2 of many, because everything about this is awesome
IDC, i want 10 of them finger blades, made into a set of two gauntlets, like actual gauntlets, with mail and leather glove bits to protect your palms. don't care if its not really functional, it would look cool as hell.
"Sword of Omens give me sight beyond sight!"
Great video, as always, can't wait for the next one!!!
As a note, the kopesh was designed specifically to counter the Roman sword and shield combo (or at least that's the common story), so the "hook" on the back of the blade (which is way over pronounced in that design) would have been used to pull the edge of their shield to create an opening and/or throw their opponent off balance. I'm not sure about the validity of any of this, but did think it was worth noting considering his comment that he wasn't familiar with the weapon... I'm sure someone knows more and will add/correct.
I'm pretty sure the khopesh predates the Roman gladius/scutum combo. Though, tall shields like that were in use for quite a while in the ancient world, so it need not be Romans it was designed for. I'm pretty sure the Romans adapted it from another culture, like they did with so many things!
The kopesh is close to a thousand years predating the Roman empire
I understand. Hopefully the fight made those dippin' dots worth it.
I love how concerning Anthony gets holding the batarang as if some secret blade is gonna jump out and get em
so the claw type weapon (3rd in vid) there is an Eastern counterpart called Kama-Tora (Bladed tiger) and its entire style its based around slashes
which also inspired the tekko style weapons to incorporate claws, hence the tekko-kagi
Anthony is my favorite honorary MR member
Dude....
This is the video I didn't know I needed.
Easy sub!! You guys rock!!
Excellent broadcaster voice on the man in the go to hell hat too, btw.
Also, Bad Dudes is still the GOAT.
2:40 It's not just a razor, the point on the fingertip helps when picking your nose, too!
Lost it when they pulled the Batman bat'leth 😆
Y’all need to try the rouges tattoo style:stick and pokes
Yup that's on the list of episodes we want to do.
Actual Cory Cranfill! Let's go!
The Haladie is a double-edged dagger from ancient Syria and India, consisting of two curved blades, each approximately 8.5 inches (22 cm) in length, attached to a single hilt.
Tekko Kagi were historical claw weapons from Japan.
Th hook on the Khopesh isn't for attacks its for pulling obstructions out of the way of your attack.
I'm surprised how little the "expert" knows. maybe he's hyper specialized.
@@GameTimeWhy I mean, I think they only called him a "swordsmith" or maybe bladesmith. That just means he makes at least 1 kind if blade or sword. Not really that he knows anything about them other than their construction. No historical or functional use knowledge required.
If he was just judging construction from a practical point of view it would be one thing, but almost anyone can do that without any real experience.
I love these ninja weapons videos
There is actually historical precedent for the wolverine claw thing. The Neko-Te, meaning cat hand was used by actual ninja, They were mostly used as a climbing tool for getting over castle walls but I imagine they could be used for self defense in a pinch.
Haven't seen y'all in my feed for a while glad to see yalls
Really happy to see Anthony back. You guys should do more European martial arts with those guys.
I love this series.
Been watching a lot of forged in fire, and there is a historical precedent for a couple of stuff. Like the double bladed batman knife looks similar to a thing called Deer Horn Knives. Then the skull claw thing is similar to a Katar and such. Then yeah, Khopesh blade, just poorly made and Anthony admitted he didn't know much about them. Then again last sword similar to a number of swords but poorly made.
That first claw thing is basically an oversized thread cutter ring, so potentially more highly specialized tool than weapon. Armoring just one finger seems to be a really weird flex, like showing your status by letting your fingernails grow ridiculously long to demonstrate just how little you have to do for yourself.
the two edge knife one is actually real and pretty common from asia to Africa because with a knife you can to a back swing afterwards
Brian looks like he is going to go back to spikes!
for the khopesh the rear point is for pulling not pushing
I’d like this even more if they spent 30mins making modifications and sharpening these.
"Give me your attack roll" lol. You guys should invite Anthony when you do your D&D campaign. And maybe those guys from the Beerists, they seem like nerds
-$10 +$5 is not like getting paid... it's like spending $5 🤔
when I saw there was a hole in the middle of the sword hilt I immediately saw the image of Brian holding it in front of his face saying, "sword of dragons give me sight Beyond sight Beyond sight"
That was a R or L handed pocket knife, for a low key princess bride knife fight.
The first mall ninja weapon in this video *could* work if the blade was on the tip of the reaver claw rather than as the worlds' weirdest brass knuckle.
That kopesh is actually decently useful. Other than the poky but back at you and the balance, which can be fixed by a real smith making it, the hooked point can easily control people and weapons
There was a weapon from India that was basically similar to the Batman knife.
The Khopesh... if it had another handle in place of the "inside blade point", it'd make a kinda neat "decorative-ish" pizza cutter.....
I'd love to see a sequel series where you guys try to improve the designs of the mall weapons to make them useful
the answer to everything is make it a normal knife/sword
@@axelskull I feel like you could make them useful without making them into a typical knife/sword. Like the wolverine claws, change the handle shape so it fits better, make the blades a bit thicker/sturdier, change the blade shape a bit to make it better for stabbing/slashing that sort of thing.
In defense of the batman knife there's actually a historical precedent for something similar in india
And the japanese Tekko Kagi for the claws
The finger thing somewhat resembles what a Qing Dynasty noble woman would wear as decoration.
The Khopesh looks like it is styled after League of Legends' Diana, Scorn of the Moon.
Loved playing Bad Dudes as a kid!
I would love for one of these videos they throw in a zombies tools survival blade
That 3-hot-topic thing looks like a highly exaggerated gut-hook knife
Now make the mall dragon sword into an actual sword
Yes! came here to suggest the same thing. He says it's comfortable, get someone who knows what they're doing to hole out the handle and add in a real blade. See if you can make that one useful.
Given his explanations, it looks like if you just remade the same sword out of actual metal, it’d be really good.
10:09 There actually *is* historical precedent for that style of claw weapon, although it's pretty niche; the tekko-kagi are a modified form of tekko, which were threshing tools weaponized by Japanese ninja. Tekko-kagi were improvised weapons, and how effective they would have been is definitely up for debate, but they did exist! Feels outside of Anthony's port of call though, which is understandable.
These look like weapons you’d buy in Dragon Quest
So about the kopesh, they were built and used more similarly to axes than swords despite how they look. Bronze weapons were built to be fairly thick and durable since bronze was more malleable than steel, thus will bend more easily, though while still being basically completely useable if it does. This made bronze more or less unusuable as a sword material. The mall kopesh is still obviously not good, but it seems worse than it is because it looks unlike how it should be used
I'd like to point out a fact. The reason why we have never favored multiple bladed weapons in the past is due to the entire concept and the reason why you would use a knife or sword in a battle. You use a bladed weapon to slip past body armor in-between the seams. Also the knife or sword is ideally used to Peirce the torso in an attempt to stab the heart of your opponent. Multiple bladed would increase the chance that a rib will catch one of those blades and prevent a mortal wound. Also your blade might get imbedded on the bone leaving you defenseless and vulnerable to attack.
And how does that apply to people who are wearing no-to-minimal armor?
@@anon9469 the wound inflicted may be larger, more area that would be vulnerable to stab and the entire torso would be subject to slash type wounds/attack. All around a greater risk of sustaining fatal wounds. I really am unsure what I was unclear about.
What I was hinting at was the reason why we don't see these gimmicks on historical weapons is because of the unreliability of the concepts as well as practical application failures. Try to lop an enemy's head off with 3 parallel blades? Fat chance. That would take 3x if not 3x squared amount of energy ie psi/Pascal's to achieve the same outcome or blade depth. Yes it very rarely was a one swing and done, you hit vertebrae more often than not.
getting tired of these one sentence responses because obviously they haven't put much thought behind the question or rebuttal.
Read a book
@@jacobcoughlin2408 Please do the same yourself. I suggest one on how to properly spell and punctuate in English.
Also, on a chaotic battlefield, it's almost impossible to get the level of fine control needed to push a blade between armor. Weapons designed for that - which, by the way, aren't just "any bladed weapon" - are designed for use on a knight in full plate who'd fallen off his horse and couldn't get up.
@@anon9469 hey bud, sorry for being brash I was having a rough day. You are right. The misspelling and punctuation is due to either stupid talk to text or the damned thumb typing. I don't usually comment on my phone because of the limitations. But pc was down due to MBR corruption. Anyway I was actually thinking about modern light infantry body armor and medium short to short swords, the damned bent backwards they use in the middle east still, in the context of my yesterday rant. Hopefully that clears things up. Also because of the chatbots that are just acting like me and you (supposedly the A.I. eventually get bored... I'm not 100% sure that we are at that level yet... Sceptical a bit) and just browsing the Internet, youtube and like bunches of pages simultaneously. We kinda do that but way less effective I'd suppose. Hey I have to apologize because typing helps me organize my thoughts and it never really matters what I type as long as my fingers are moving.. anyway have a good day. Well try waking up tomorrow and out loud the first thing you said was "today is going to be a good day!" Try it. I have a theory. We could do a Simon says game going on... Hmmm edit I'm totally too stoned at the moment this might get deleted
The dragon sword is giving me fencing foil vibes in its flexibility
...Right until your attempt at fencing is foiled by the thing snapping.
First claw one would be good in addition to gauntlets while holding a sword, more so less bladed more piercing, like going sword to sword and then being able to stab from like pressure of only 3 inches away would be sick utility
Lol. The klingon Bet'leth talk was funny to hear. it's the Kopesh looking blade. the back point, or bottle opener as they call it, was meant for catching on the back swing, similar to how a Nordic bearded axe was meant to catch and toss shields out of the way.
We need a feature-length version that includes hiding out in the Sears to make modifications before confronting Kyle.
Easter eggs: John Dagger 2 movie poster, and motivational quote at the B&BW - "When life gives you two stabby ends, make them one big stabby end." - Seamus MacLaymore
I'd love an episode of getting all these trashy mall weapons and seeing who can construct the best working weapon from them
John Dagger and Keith Spear never did settle the “one pointy end” vs. “two pointy ends” debate did they?
_please_ do the pedal kart jousting episode that sounds incredible
In defense of that Batman knife:
There is historical use of weapons like that!
The Haladie for example is similar in concept en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haladie
The Vajra-Mushti is more like a knuckleduster, but still some of those had actual blades like this Batman knife en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajra-mushti
Also some Karambit has dual blades instead of one blade and one ring
Second weapon vaguely reminds me of the Vajra
The kopesh was intended for the removal of the limbs and to cut through leather and the occasional small piece of copper or bronze. if the one that you had was sharp enough you probably would have gone straight through the dummy. the blade was used something like a Saber and that used inertia as the primary reason for the cutting action. they did have an occasional hook that was used to move people or to drag someone when needed in combat but not often.
In defense of the Reaver’s claw, you’d WANT them in reverse, and built into a gauntlet rather than individual fingers. Better for backhands and punches than an actual replacement for a dagger.
As for historical precedent, the Japanese Shinobi used Shuko, which were like a claw/brass knuckle hybrid weapon, used for combat and occasionally as a climbing aid. They were two metal rings bound by a strip of leather, but have evolved into a single ring connected to a adjustable wrist strap.
The Sad part is I own both the sword and wolverene claws, the best part though is I got them as gifts so...
You guys really have outdone yourselves. I have never seen shittier mall ninja weapons than these. They are amazing! I am not sure I could stop laughing long enough to pay the cashier if I had to buy them for this video.
I feel like I've come full circle. The first mall weapon episode was my first Modern Rogue video.
Thus is my first vid I've watched from them.
Now an IMPROVING mall ninja weapons!?
They have had the double blades in history before, but it takes training to use properly. The kopesh is a slicing/ chopping weapon ment to take off limbs.
Holy shit, Anthony went from fit to SWOLE
Actually used the skeleton claws on a watermelon once......hurt the absolute hell out of my wrists. Stabbing was fine but slashing was god awful!
Wolverine is Called “jærven” in Danish.
Phonetically, Jaerwen is the closest I can get :)
I find it useful to remember that any “melee” weapon has to have the *structural integrity* to withstand/dissipate the ENTIRETY of the wielder’s Force Generated (plus/times leverage, centripetal force, etc).
I prefer (significantly) overengineered due to my learned intolerance of catastrophic failure causing user injury… but that’s just my take.
At 6:55 seconds the historical precedence for a double blade knife can be found in China with the Deer Horn Knives... not saying it worked well, just that it was used in war.
10:24 -- Yeah, Murphy, some viking is going to get the skulls of four squirrels to put on his gauntlet. Very Scary.
The finger claw is vaguely similar to a kerambit
A Kerambit blade jammed in the least effective holder possible.
On that first Reaver claw thing, the swordsman is WRONG! There ARE ring knives! They can be found in the Lake Turkana region of Africa- many have sideways blades, but some (there is one in particular on page 22 of DK's "Arms and Armour" Eyewitness book) are in-line with the finger like this one.
Edit-add: Okay, apparently this'll be for a lot of them.
Historical precedent for the two-sided dagger- there's a LOT. Fakir's horns, also the Haladie, which was featured on Forged in Fire, coming from India.
The Wolverine claws, historically, could be linked, as they say, to Katars of various kinds, but also the 'tiger claw' Bagh Nakh, though that's a much shorter, palm-held weapon.
Takti-cool Khopesh... Why. _Why?_
And of course the Sword-Shaped-Object. Which is some sort of unholy combination of tulwar, katana, and grosse messer?
The wolverine claws are more like tekko kagi than katars.
Also swordsman....not historian. He's an expert weapon handler...he merely knows how to use them.
Also the knifes of turkana aren't anything at all like the ring knife here. They are completely different in the way they are worn and the direction and blade is used. They share as many similarities as any katana and a urumi...both are held in the hand....thats it. So saying they're no historical president with the ring knife as it is here is accurate.
Also sword shaped object. I assume your logic was a tulwar handle, it has a clip point like a katana......how did you get Grosse Messer exactly?
The bat knife can actually be used with Filipino martial arts kali style, the knife itself can be modified by users to have blades at both ends but again its to taste and prefered style of fighting, granted the top blade tends to be shorter than the top.
I wish you guys would bring anyone other that a European specialist because a lot of these “weapons” pull inspiration from Asia
He's a fencer not a historian
Interesting review. Thanks for putting this video together that helps educate with facts the reality of flimsy fantasy weaponry by giving pointers towards actual weapon mechanics and towards what is actually functional vs what is not 😎👍
Technically, there is a form of small buckler with daggers on ether end. However, that's like applying katana logic to a large kitchen meat cleaver. : /
the batman knife looks okey, just the bat handle's comfort is scary
the kopesh hook is too wide to catch the oponents weapons, but it's a lot better than any previous stuff still utter cheap hanger stuff
There is an actual use for something similar to the finger blade: opening boxes in a warehouse