Not only do most women not listen to their husbands but back in the day wives didn’t ask too many questions and or interrogate their husbands out of respect.
worst DA questions ever - why not hammer away at a group of adults floating past kids lying on a shore line bleeding to death. Why not ask her what she said to the 3 pp in her group when they came back from the attack? Who the hell doesn't say what the hell happened over there ?
At one point one of the kids were asked if you were scared why didn’t you leave,same applies to the attacker, if he was scared leave,no one was stopping him from doing so. In fact they told him to leave
The teenagers were taunting him. Why? At that point, he should have moved away when outnumbered. Going crazy and stabbing people was the dumbest thing he could have done. Now an entire community and many families destroyed.
I still think this whole situation is terribly tragic,,, that being said he was slapped and pushed down in water and if that was my grandfather or my dad, I think I would of wanted for him to protect himself…I don’t think any one of the stab wounds was intentional and I do think he was just wielding the knife wildly around him because a very large group of people who were surrounding and attacking him…self defense…all day!!!!
Prosecution seemed frustrated with the interview. Apparently he thought she'd answer things differently. She didn't seem interested in helping his case.. shocking.
This would have never happened if He had never charged at the teens to begin with. He knew he had a knife and was not scared hit one girl and stabbed the other before the boys start pushing him away and slap him . He is guilty of pre meditated murder when he began DISEMBOWELLING folks with great expertise and un noticed. Period this is every ones nightmare. The kids where telling him to leave he didnt so they resolved to insults then because clearly they sensed this man is dangerous and acting weird assulting the boys first when a strange big crazy eyed man approached them and grabbed at them . Creep knew he had a weapon and wanted a fight not listening ever to the teens yelling for him to leave 1st so they tried insults to get him too leave. This creep is not innocent or acting inself defense!!!
Yes yes yes why so many people can’t get simple facts straight. This guy shouldn’t have done what he did!! Anyone can say anything doesn’t mean you can stab or gut them!
"Crazy eyed man approached them and grabbed them" Right. Not awkward, tense man who recently had a quadruple bypass and feels vulnerable anyway? Not seeing fear in them crazy eyes are you? No - he's crazy. In a country stacked with guns, no one could imagine lethal force ever being used! So, sensibly, they just mock him. They take his snorkel and throw it. Then, lie that he was peeping at little girls, he's a 'raper' and cackle like hyenas as he turns away, only to find he's blocked by more nasty kids who can't handle their beer. When exactly did he hit the girl? Looks like she was was touching him and he pushed her away, eventually. Have you ever had THIRTEEN drunk morons surround you, screaming so you can't think, calling you a paedophile? Touching you? Knocking you into water? If he saw an escape route, you think they wouldn't follow? Looks like they were in fact following. He's gesturing to friends. He is clearly hypervigilant (or 'crazy eyed'). Have you ever felt so separated from friends, ambushed, screamed over? Had to deal with multiple angry people who are all picking a different fight? Your adrenaline takes over. It's almost beyond your control if you genuinely fear for life and he did, clearly. If someone is stabbed in the belly and they pull back suddenly (the first strike, after being THROTTLED was clearly accidental) the guts are likely to follow. The fact the blows are low suggest defensive to me. It's a tragedy, extremely sad someone died. The dynamics of mobs are very powerful and people should know more about the hysteria and diffused responsibility. Miu is not guilty. People need to stop being spiteful aggressive ringpieces
Horrible, tragic incident. Miu obviously should have announced what he was doing, but the rest is on the awful, toxic group madness. He clearly feared for his life, and im not surprised. Extremely sad a boy died. I urge people to learn about the mentality found in mobs, in-groups & out-groups, persecution games and diffused responsibility
He could have said “get back I have a knife.” Anything!!! He could have told police that from the get go. Instead of lying about the entire thing trying to blame the knifes on the kids.
@@CKing-388 could have. Maybe. I don't think you've been in a tunnel vision panic mode if you can argue that How about they stopped jumping him? Accusing him of things that frequently enough lead to beatings? Stopped following and harassing him and screaming like jackals?
Miu knew he was putting self in a position where a group of teens might attack him, he seemed bold, because he had a knife, they're telling him to go away, and calling him names meant nothing to him.
This Prosecutor is not perpared at all... needs paper... then markers. He's a State Prosecutor? 1st trail? He could learn from a good attorney like Mr. Nelson.
Nicholas is out of luck with his Lawyer. Allthe kids were Monsters and should be accountable as well. Tragedy could have been aappropriately. Drunk River Monsters would have acted appropiately.
She’s testifying in a court of law and in an unenviable position thanks to her ex husband. So would you like her to maybe make some jokes or make sh*t up like so many others in this case ?
@@18618madeinamerica She looks/acts disinterested & pissed she is there.. she doesn't seem to knw much about her husband ie: What kind of engineer he is🤔 She came off as though she didn't want to be at the river to begin with; but yet pic of group shows her "animated" Doesn't have a clue what where her husband was doing at any given time🤔 But knws he only had 2 beers?? js😎
I can’t believe so many are siding with him. He got smacked with an open hand after assaulting a woman. He left without a mark on him and he walked away when he was ready to without resistance. He left them with their guts pouring out their bodies , slashed and bleeding. He is a monster!!
Exactly how do 5 people end up stabbed and 1 young kid looses his life and he ends up without a scratch on him?! And the young kids are the ones that attacked him? They might have been loud but were the ones attacked! He knows what he did because when they put him in the police car his comment was “I heard someone got stabbed and they looked like me”! So lying from the beginning!
@@terrie6738and did you hear them ALL tell him to turn around and leave several times and then aggravated the whole situation by hitting one of the females then that’s when the guys said no you don’t hit a girl and tried to keep him down that’s when he disemboweled the man??
he’s a lunatic he came out of it unscathed he might of been bullied which is horrendous in itself and he might’ve had a few smacks, but that just does not justify him flailing around with a knife and stabbing everybody he’s a violent lunatic and he wants locking up
To anyone defending Miu the psychopath, you need to watch his testimony, the victims testimonies, the video they filmed of him instigating & punching the young girl first. Facts, he was looking at them underwater w his goggles on Mius friends told him NOT to approach the young kids as they'd think he was a pedophile His friends said NOT to look for their phone as they had insurance & didn't care Miu checked his pocket to ensure he had his knife PRIOR to approaching them (he planned to do harm prior to approaching them Miu ran up to their tube's grabbing their legs & rope The teens yelled at him several times telling him to get away, to leave them alone to go go go Miu had MANY opportunities to leave but stated he DIDNT Mius friends told Miu to leave them alone but he still didn't It was ONLY AFTER Miu approached the 2 teen girls hovering over them, they told him to leave telling him he's a predator that he initiated the fight by PUNCHING the girl in the face & throwing her back It was ONLY AFTER Miu started it that the girls guy friends pushed Miu back & punched him (Mind you Miu already pulled his knife out holding it at his side PRIOR to punching the girl in the face AND Miu had a SMIRK as he held his knife) When Miu stabbed AJ, he held the knife blade up and "gutted" him from intestines up to diaphragm He said he would have gotten more if he could have to have more "bellies up". Miu LIED about the entire event to his friends, wife, police who arrested him & to investigators. He said he heard kids yelling & kids being kids. He said he didn't see anyone hurt (as the psycho floated past the destruction he caused causally as if nothing happened) Before police arrested him. He'd put on a long sleeve shirt, sunglasses and hat to disguise himself trying to walk past the first cop he saw. NOT ONCE did Miu state he was Assaulted, that he was fearful or fighting for his life until he realized they had a video of the entire event. Prior to that he LIED stating the kids had knives & they threatened him with it. All a LIE. Then Miu said that he took the kids hand that was holding the knife and used the kids hand to stab the kid. All a LIE. His entire testimony he "couldn't remember ANYTHING" except his feelings of annoyance claiming he wasn't angry. His lies are so preposterous it's disgustingly laughable. The guy is a straight up psychopath & should have gotten 2nd degree murder. I don't believe he planned to do that necessarily PRIOR to going to Apple river, but per the facts of the case, it shows he intended to do significant damage or kill them prior to his approaching them (again checking his pocket to ensure he had his knife). Another thing as he approached the kids initially, he put his goggles in his mouth to have his hands free to grab the kids. Miu instigated this entire thing & Assaulted them first. He's a ticking time bomb. The police found a MACHETE in his vehicle...Mius own wife testified he carries it with him "in the case of a road rage incident" For anyone who is naive or uniformed of these cluster b sociopathic psychopathic personalities I highly recommend you research & study it and listen to every interview & video of this case so you will not become of victim of his type. They are nothing but hateful, vindictive, offensive, manipulative, spiteful dangerous individuals who feel ENTITLED to punish anyone who they feel offended by. Any normal person would simply walk away from any conflict escalating whatsoever. He gutted FIVE kids who told him to leave them alone numerous times. He should have gotten life in prison without parole. Please watch every video before making uniformed assumptions. I admit I too thought the kids started it & felt bad for him UNTIL I watched every video & interview. I then was disgusted by him. He is a walking evil being. I 💯 believe he lost weight to appear this feeble old man playing poor me victim (typical) of the real perpetrators. Notice how none of the real victims acted this way?! Not ONCE was he remorseful for the damage and death he caused UNTIL immediately prior to sentencing. Miu deserves to rot a long life in prison, I hope he never is released.
Well you’re in denial. Guessing you’re around these kids ages, hence why you’re on their side? Have you actually watched the full video? How much abuse is one supposed to go through until self defence comes into play? Who knows whether or not one of the teenagers also had a knife? Nic was outnumbered by 6 young men and 4 young women. What planet are you living on …
@@WHI73LIONright and they were so scared that they got right up on him to cursed and yelled at him. The most aggressive ones weren’t even part of the original group but came over because they heard the yelling.
The defense opened the door wide when he asked the killer’s wife if he was ever known to be violent! How about asking the wife if SHE was ever hit by the killer? Who wants to bet he has? But the prosecution let it close slowly, softly, with barely a whisper.
The man would not be a killer if it Was not for idiots messing with the wrong guy. That group of idiots thought they had a victim and that person ended up poking them back. One of them won the darwin award.
The more of this trial I watch the more I'm convinced this Nicolae is a Russian mobster and they prosecutor is intentionally throwing the trial because he's had threats made against him. Nobody can be this bad of a prosecutor for real. How does the guy even have a job. He's a total snooze fest besides.
I was starting to think the same because of the old-country blade technique. Someone responded to your comment saying that he came to the US when he was 15. Did his family land in inner-city Detroit or Oakland, California? He's using a particular technique with that blade: Keeping the knife low and away from the victim's/antagonist's view and using a swift abdomen-to-sternum underhand technique. This is not the blade-use of a novice. Also, look at the comments under the other videos. You see crazy support for this guy. I don't know. Did the good people of Minnesota already decide these kids were no good because they were doing weed on the river?
@@Cletus_the_ElderHis friends said that he is good with tools and a little bit of a handy man. He immigrated to the US with his family as political refugees and settled in Minnesota. He went to Dakota for school to get his degree as a mechanical engineer. His friends told him to bring that knife along to cut ropes that tie the tubes, but eventually he used this knife to kill someone.
@@Cletus_the_Elder That's another reason I thought he might be in the mob - the people sticking up for him. I'm sorry, but if every smart-mouth teen was stabbed for being cocky, we wouldn't have very many teenagers left. "He feared for his life." He was with a bunch of other people. If they thought he was in serious danger, why didn't they come to help him?
If this lady doesn’t remember anything, and the transcripts don’t recall her recollection then she is a waste of witness time! Clearly she doesn’t want to say what she saw!! GUILTY!!!!
Question is what would any 50+ year old man would have done in this situation. If kids are jarring at you, calling you fat, a pedophile or whatever, how do you react if outnumbered? If it were me I'd probably say, "yeah yeah all you kids will look like me in 40 years. enjoy your tubing. if you were older id offer you beer. take care. " Diffuse the situation, play nice , be joking and friendly despite insults, and give them space. That seems to be the best way to avoid this scenario
For your information he stated drama with them FIRST. he ran up to them and literally put his hands on their tubes to stop their progress. Then when he was snorkeling he said he was looking for little girls. That pissed the group off. That's when they called him a pedaphile and raper. He also was told by a few ladies to go somewhere, they didn't want trouble and then proceeded to punch the blonde in the side of her face when she tried to walk away. That fired the group up even more. Yall need to get all your facts before you start this bleeding heart bs in reference to the stabber/murderer.
@@tranquility9325The kids were out of line and they could have walked away as well. This didn't have to go the way it did. So many ways out by both parties but none were taken. Very sad situation.
Peter…..Nick approached the “kids” + never spoke! He appeared creepy + weird….ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS WALK AWAY…..+ go back to his group! And if he did nothing would have happened! Period!
Or option 2, they could have called authorities. Instead of antagonizing potentially dangerous individuals. Searching for little girls with snorkle gear? Seems like a smart ass response.
I wonder if this couple got divorced just to protect their financials so they can keep as much of their money as they can. Also, I hope the families of teenagers do file a civil suit 2.5 M each for each child that was stabbed & assaulted and 25M for the murder victim's family
You know your husband was over there and you know someone got hurt but didn’t ask your husband a single question about what happened. WTF!! Plus her husband got attacked which she saw.
Ok here it is. Nik approached the kids and made a smartass comment when one of the snot-nosed kids (in his mind) asked him what he was doing. His smart ass comment was that he was looking for little girls. From that snarkiness came the boys specific heckling of him, calling him a pedophile. Why else would they have picked that particular insult? Nik fidgets with his knife on the way over to the boys, making sure he had it with him. He was preparing for a fight. Dare I say, he was aching for a fight. He was enjoying the back and forth with the kids, and then the adults, smiling and smirking. When it changed from teenage heckling to adult confrontation, he got mad. I interject here, he had ample time and opportunity to do the mature thing, step back and leave. He had no business there. Instead, he disliked being confronted by adults and embarrassed by the heckling, and he lashed out and punched the blonde. THAT is what got the fight started. Nice to know that those modern young men knew, traditionally, it was very wrong for a man to punch a woman. He knew it, everyone knew it. He should have expected repercussions for that act. He should have made a quick exit. But instead he told himself that those people weren't going to scare him or boss him around. After all, he had his knife. And when he saw the reaction to him punching a woman, he brought out his knife and surreptitiously opened it, getting it ready for action. He was going to show them who was boss. And then he just lost it as the unarmed boys and young men overwhelmed him. He stabbed, and then gutted everyone near him. He had "consciousness of guilt" throwing away the knife, and acting oblivious with law enforcement. He said he was even fearful of the police. Because he KNEW what he did was wrong, and he didn't want to be held accountable. He actually wanted to get away killing one and injuring the others. That is the height of arrogance, the trait he exhibited from the very first moment he approached the teens. This need to dominate must have been growing in him for a long time. HE IS SO VERY GUILTY. I hope the judge doesn't reward him with concurrent sentences. He killed and injured consecutively ... he should serve his punishment consecutively. I rest my case.
You know he in fact never said anything about little girls? That's been established. Nicolae Miu has been treated terribly. They were disgusting and continue to lie
Really????? Is Ms Sandi stoned or what???? She acts like she is on another planet. She is trying to escape reality. If I had done what Mui did to those young people, I would not be able to sit through this trial. He was the "adult" in that situation and should have said, "No problems" and turned and waded away, instead of engaging with a bunch of teenagers. He approached a crowd of young strangers and when they told him to go, he should have gone.
I agree with this but at the same time, once you are hit and shoved in the water, you are technically allowed to defend yourself and the only people he stabbed that day were approaching/attacking/touching him right after he was or during he was being hit!
It’s like going on a roller coaster in slow motion. This case is gripping, horrifying and full of jaw-dropping testimony and there’s no passion, no organization. I don’t know what would happen if there was no video. Are they inexperienced or what?!?
@@susieannei5641what would have happened is they’d have lied him into prison for life for defending himself. The video’s the only good thing that came from that drunk and drug induced mob.
This prosecutor is the pits. He's woefully unprepared, is asking witless questions, and seemingly has no idea what he's doing. He seems to be looking to rely on emotions. His interrogation of the wife isn't about facts. It's about emotion. He wants to use her to prove that Nick is a violent, easily provoked man. I think she's holding on quite well.
One weapon, 4 people stabbed, 1 punch/slap and one death at the scene. Alcohol didn't disembowel that boy who laid in the water with his bowels exposed on his stomach.
Kids need to understand that they can't be disrespectful like these kids were or they will find themselves in similar positions. People are not going to put up with blatant disrespect and anyone thinking they should is a simp and a half. Maybe kids should be taught not to taunt adults like that and they won't have to get corrected by strangers. Unfortunately, such corrections can be severe. None of this would have happened if those kids had not bullied that man. But some people don't think they'll get spanked for being a jerk if there's a lot of jerks around them. They feel empowered enough to eff around. They picked the wrong one and found out. The sudden change in their tones -from sheer delight in their jovial taunts - to terrified horror should be used to remind people how cause and effect works when you forget to not be a jerk. Never underestimate how far people will go to correct disrespectful people. Some people will go to extremes to teach bullies a lesson. Remember that, kids.
@Ida_Dunne_Moore sorry pushed twice and slapped once. He had the knife out before anyone touched him. When he was standing up from the 2nd push, the girl now 20 feet away is bleeding. Then he stabbed jean short guy for trying to break it up. He is not the innocent one all. The jury agreed he was the aggressor and 2 even wanted a higher penalty.
@@drewgoodman9014 They had taunted, called him a paedophile, followed, mobbed and surrounded him and he knew what was coming. Anyone would. Those young idiots are all responsible to varying degrees
Interesting that on Nic's peeps videos they spoke a little english But in court today would not even say yes or no in english. Instead, they expect our tax dollars to hire people to speak translate for them. Maybe they should have done a little homework on USA laws, rules, language and consequences of actions. She realizes he doesn't care about his consequences in another country.
I would imagine that it is preferred by the courts if people speak the language that will get the most clear answers. What do you mean by "...they should have done a little homework on USA laws, rules, languages...". Because we don't have an official language. Language access laws have been in place since 1964 with the civil rights act and then confirmed multiples times in subsequent courts.
@@BooyagasWife Well McFly the USA Citizenship test does indeed test for english.!! USA Is indeed ENGLISH-- lmao- more than likely They aren't even citizens but no doubt many languages spoken here.dah- Us Law-abiding citizens have had enough!! Deport their sorry arses. Stop Wasting our Tax dollars on criminals !!
Also they all saying kids where rude respect elders. Well you actually gotta earn respect. The way an older bigger crazed eyed man charges at them ,stops their float and grabs at them . ARE THESE ACTS OF A SO CALLED RESPECTFUL ADULT NEEDING SUPPOSEDLY HELP LOOKING FOR A PHONE ???? LOOKS LIKE HE WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR A FIGHT BECAUSE HE DIDNT EVER USE HIS WORDS TOO DEESCALATE ANYTHING BUT KILLED A TEEN AND STABBED 5 FOLKS IN NO TIME. NOT JUST STABBED BUT DISEMBOWELLING THEM!!
This is the most confusing part for me,what is the excuse for Mui rushing to them.Theory 1,Mui was just working hard to navigate up stream to retrieve phone in that location.Second theory he was being creepy. Would love to know what Mui said during Cockfields vid when Cockfields said “ what did he say “?
Even "peaceful" people can act violent if pushed to that point or if they're intoxicated... He had plenty of time to leave. I don't believe that she didn't see anything when people who were passing by and weren't as close as their group could hear the boys and went to help. He never said a single word during the altercation and the videos prove that. There's a second video from another witness that shows the larger scope of it. He is the one that approached, he is the one that threw the first hit, he is the one that lunged, he is the one that had tons of opening to run off but chose to keep stabbing people, even when his friends were present. He's a murderer. Plain and simple. This is not self defense. He needs to face the consequences.
He could have left at anytime, the only reason it escalated is because he wouldn’t leave. He threw his snorkel in the water and charged at guys sitting in their tubes. The ease with which he killed and stabbed these people I don’t think this is the first time he has killed. His group didn’t even stop to check in with police while passing by and he put on a disguise . He knew he was wrong.
He could have left true, but the kids escalated. Did you not watch the video where he gets pushed in the water, slapped in the face, hands around his neck? And that is OK?
it's called strategy, a defense. Every side needs to bring out all their cards. The kids will be portrayed as nice kids too by other witnesses, but they were very aggressive and not very nice before the physical confrontation and stabbings. Nicer people would have had an uneventful happy day on the river, whether young or old.
I would have never been picked as a juror. I can't wrap my head around stabbing 5 ppl. Maybe jabbing at 1 as a gesture while you back away to leave, but 5 and the level of damage- I can't justify no matter how "good" the defense attempts to paint a picture.
Her (ex) husband is being tried for murder... What do you expect her to be like. She's probably pissed and sad and feels like her life was just stolen from her.
If he’s innocent, I would expect her to be more forthcoming with information. How are you gonna think your husband is in trouble but have no clue about any details before or after. How are you just going to “float away” after there is a big commotion and not ask questions or stay to find out if the kids get in trouble. Everything is “I don’t know”, “I can’t remember”…blah blah blah. BS! Maybe her life wouldn’t feel so stolen from her if her husband could control his temper and not stab people for sport. 🤷🏽♀️
@@bonnenaturel6688 I was replying to the first person to reply to my comment. They said “she feels like her life was just stolen from her” If one thing this traumatic happened with your spouse, you wouldn’t talk it about it at length over the course of 2 years? You wouldn’t talk about all the details that led them to be in trial for murder? If you witnessed this first hand, in part or in full, you wouldn’t have vivid memories for the day? I’m not buying it. She is keeping her lips sealed because she thinks it’s helping her now ex husband.
So was he acting like he was all alone. Why wasn't anyone with him. I feel dumb bcuz I didn't see anyone with him for that whole time. So aunesto probably should have been there with the man who stabbed all those people, 5 people. As they are watching him back n forth with these kids, just standing there, duh. Maybe nic needs some help!°
Hat on or off omg sunglasses on sunny day. Friend asked him to bring knife something for cutting. Rope calling her to stand really was not useful. That was unless.
She is trying to excuse herself of all the details. She doesn’t want to associate herself with the events that took place that day. Not sure if it’s because of the trauma of it all or if she is just a heartless person.
She will be judged for this false account for eternity. Her allegiance to this man rather than the truth will haunt her until her eyes open in the presence of God Himself... She will then account for these lies.
I think she’ll tell the truth if he goes to prison. If you have a husband who is that calm after violence, would you really want to antagonise him? The divorce as soon as he’s safely locked away speaks volumes.
That's the effing pot calling the kettle black every one of those punks lied through their teeth high and drunk with adults their. Wanna run with the big dogs don't cry when you get schooled!
You all internet warriors think these people should always speak the truth and forget about emotions and loyalty. If my wife, ex-wife or kid committed a crime, I will always take their side and never help the prosecution.
Ernesto lost his phone and Nicolae went to find it and Ernesto didn't even help Nicolae find his own phone and where was Ernesto when the mob was attacking Nicolae.
Drunk young men and women started the entire event at / in the Apple River that day. Mr Miu was on his own, well behaved, minding his own business, not disturbing anyone and looking for something with his goggles in shallow water. It was totally unnecessary to be confronted by drunk youths, who also unnecessarily started horrible name-calling and harrassment of Mr Miu. Soon gradually joined by equally drunk youths, the harassment continued and escalated. Mr Miu did not bring a knife on that day, planning or hoping to injure, or kill, someone. It apears that the sport "tubing" requires knives for cutting ropes, etc. Like other people, Mr Miu was in possession of a knife for that purpose. Mr Miu was a single person, being confronted and aggrevated by a group of very loud drunk people, also having knives in their possession. It was, however, wrong swinging the knife, injuring people. On the other hand, If the drunk youth minded their own business and left Mr Miu alone to enjoy his day at the river, the entire horrible event would certainly have been avoided !!!!!!!!!!
Maybe they didnt want to touch random peoples blood. Maybe it's not their responsibility. Maybe they were shocked and trying to process what happened. Maybe others were already trying to help the injured. Maybe they were afraid that if they approached they would get called pedophiles and rapists.
This is a crock of bs. These drunk punks surround some man pushing him down, ganging up calling names and hitting him so he defends himself and you put him on trial?? What kind of justice is this? Bullsheet!
Self defense all day long. They taunted him, surrounded him, attacked him. He walked away from the teens who surrounded him. Another group came to meet him screaming at him. They put their hands on him. He used his left hand to get them off him. They attacked him. He responded in fear for his life. I feel bad for this family. He had a right to defend himself. All the other witnesses have lied and said he puched her with his right hand which had a knife in it. Its impossible for him to have punched her. They are trying to cover up a beat down of an old man who had a knife.
They can't cover it up, it's all on video. We all know what instigated the situation. It is as plain as day. He may be guilty of manslaughter by law, but let the trial figure that out. I can tell you that this man wanted no part of the aggressive hoodlums and tried to walk away and ignore, but they baited him until it got physical. It's too bad he had a knife. however, there was no guarantee that group wouldn't have severely injured him or killed him depending on how violent their emotions were in whatever condition they were in.
What! He disemboweled a 17 year old, murdered another 17 year old stabbed 3 other people and punched a woman in the face. THEN he did everything to try and lie and conceal that fact. GUILTY. Murderer.
@@davida1977 "I can tell you that this man wanted no part of the aggressive hoodlums and tried to walk away and ignore" huh?? We must not be seeing the same video. He started the whole interaction by grabbing their inner tubes and he had multiple opportunities to walk away.
@@drewc771 yes, it is unclear why he was by the innertubes. I didn't see any video before that, as to how those parties met together. We know that the man went to search for a phone. I don't think he went down the river searching for groups of teens or searching to collect some innertubes. This is what we will learn from the trial and what crime and punishment he will get according to the law. And later in the video you can see the man making some distance between them as the group size increased. Why did the knife come out? He didn't bring it out to flatten innertubes. He got pushed into the water against a group 13-1. Even if he didn't have a knife and just pushed back, it wouldnt have ended well. Definitely was not premeditated, and the teens behavior certainly led to the confrontation unfortunately.
did the prosecutor present just how many times a person should be hit before they are in fear of the attacks? I've actually known someone who killed a man nics age with one punch. he wasn't in court and prison for nearly a decade as the victim after that death either... he also had to take responsibility to get parole.
Genuine question. Did this woman agree to testify and then see that video during the course of this trial and regret her decision? That’s the vibe I get.
She's an evasive liar for her ex husband, but I'm glad she got away from him. How safe was she with the machete he had hidden in his truck? She escaped this mad man, probably saved her life in the long run.
i hope that she can spend the rest of her life out from under him and blossoming in some way. surround herself with healthy people. create a self for herself.
The attorney that's talking with Sondra Miu at the start of this video needs to brush up on his bedside manners lol. Just because these witnesses are made to be there doesn't mean they should be spoken to abruptly and talked down to. Same with when Anthony Carlsons father was on the stand he was spoken to very abruptly and spoken down to as well. It's not right there's a way to get their point across without trying to make someone feel stupid.
why would they have to float the way they just came from? They lost the phone up river, Nic walked back to find it....then they had to paddle back and pass the area the phone dropped?
First where my husband is I am when people come up to my husband we don’t know I’m right there any woman starts yelling at my husband I’m in front of him and i handle it! And I’m 41!! This would never of happened if she was with her husband helping him I don’t know other peoples marriages but my husband wouldn’t let me go that far in the water with out him an I wouldn’t let him!!
@@rominahorn427she's on trial for him murdering a kid... What should she look like?? Pretty sure the divorce is to protect their money in case of a lawsuit after this trial.
She's definitely lying for him, but just in general, she doesn't want to be associated with the the case. I do feel bad for her, she's trying to protect him, but she's also realized her own life is disintegrating at a rapid rate. They had to sell their house for the lawyer's fees. She's 100 on her own now ...whatever they have in the bank, or house is used up. Remember, she isn't working any longer, either.
I'm just a few moments into the video where they're showing the whole group out on the river together and it stands in such juxtaposition to what transpires later. I (as I'm sure many who will read this) have floated rivers throughout my whole life. While I've seen confrontations on the river, it's always been a couple drunkards and over fairly quickly. Those days are sunny, happy, fund days surrounded by friends. It's so easy to find new people on the river to laugh with, share a story and have a beer that it makes this all the more tragic. I don't know much about the story yet but my assumption is that alcohol played a part (excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong). I stopped drinking at the beginning of 2023 but I bartend in the summers and people often say "that must be hard to bartend and not drink" but it's not at all. It so often brings out the worst in people, turns and friendly person into a nasty aggressive one or just a stammering, stumbling, fool. Anyway, it's trite but what a total waste of multiple lives over something so stupid and avoidable.
I have one question why are they not getting the stab wound victims or the water and to the hospital? I get they are in the river idc take a float a boat a canoe something to get them out of there and that dirty water. I’d be like get me to the hospital now. I need to read up on this how have I not heard about this.
We don't know of they're unnecessary questions, they can be very important to the case. When a witness just continues to claim to not remembering so many things, it might give the appearance of many questions being unnecessary.
His wife surely is suffering greatly, but tell the truth, do not defend actions that led to death and serious injuries. Follow a decent moral compass. So many lives ruined in minutes.
What you have here is a dynamic between two generations. Mr. Muse generation says just do no harm don’t instigate problems don’t be mouthy and then you got this other group this young punk ass group who wants to think that there are the center of the universe and that they can say and do whatever the heck they want because you know they’re so dang important on they’ve got cell phones and content is everything and we’re gonna show this guy because we’re so dang hot and cool and neat. We’ve got six packs and, a bag of chips. I think the wrong persons are on trial. Mr. fat man football player who’s so scared you know because he waste nearly 300 pounds and he’s an athlete. I can see why he would be scared of 57-year-old man who had open-heart surgery. He’s the ringleader he’s the one that started the whole thing. He’s the one that is the mastermind behind the whole thing without his actions never happened. He should be on trial.
After you see the video and hear about the alcohol consumption you may change your mind about who is at fault here. After sseing and hearing testimony I think this is justified self defence.
She is a horrendous witness, and this prosecutor is horrendous at getting information out of her. Did none of them prepare for this testimony??? Jeezus Im watching this after the verdict, thankfully, and thank god there was video proof of what actually happened because she did NOT help their case!
Are you a Russian mobster ? These poor kids didn't deserve to die for being mouthy. This jerk needs to go back to Russia, and you defending him murdering kids is gross. What is wrong with you? Their life is changed forever and somebody lost their child! In what civilized world is this what these kids deserved or anybody would've even expected? He isn't even injured!! They're dead and stabbed! Equal force is all the law allows, and you might would know that if the prosecutor was even halfway decent at his job.
@@lilg2300I would say he didn't. The Carlson group did. They rushed over and confronted him after he had moved away from the boys. If six or seven drunk angry people run over and get in your face while another six tend cheer in the backgriund yelling at them to do something "for the greater good" I think anyone would freak out. I certainly would never have pulled a knife but I certainly would be freaking out and in defense mode.
Ms Miu should stand behind her husband, and be proud of him for defending himself against overwhelming odds. This is the kind of man she can count on to protect her should the need ever arise.
@@Diane-nu7ro Only on paper, ma'am. It is simply a strategic move to protect their assets from the plethora of lawsuits that are certain to materialize when he is found not guilty. She will get everything in the "divorce", and Mr Miu won't have a dime. And as the old saying goes, the "victims" won't be able to squeeze blood from a turnip! 😎
@@jcnix71 makes sense to protect the assets. I didn't find her testimony hurt him. I found her quite credible, not scripted. Not sure why she is on the Prosecutors side? Must have missed something.
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Mrs Miu is remarkably incurious. She isn’t even sure what kind of engineer her ex-husband is. This doesn’t make sense.
She seems like a scripto "pill head" to me.
bro women don't listen to thier husbands lol. as long as the checks roll in.
Not only do most women not listen to their husbands but back in the day wives didn’t ask too many questions and or interrogate their husbands out of respect.
My Wife of 21 years does not know exactly what i do either - Its normal.
she sounds like a damn idiot
worst DA questions ever - why not hammer away at a group of adults floating past
kids lying on a shore line bleeding to death. Why not ask her what she said to the 3 pp in her group when they came back from the attack? Who the hell doesn't say what the hell happened over there ?
Our nation is getting more stupid every day. It's just a fact.
At one point one of the kids were asked if you were scared why didn’t you leave,same applies to the attacker, if he was scared leave,no one was stopping him from doing so. In fact they told him to leave
bossypant drunks
Another utuber said that the kids blocked his retreat from the situation .
@bencefra111 "told him to leave". Under what authority? He had the same right to be there as everybody else.
@@steve8803 your right he can stay, but he doesn’t have a right to stab someone for ridiculing him
@@bencefra111 he does have that right when they attack him.
Her attitude stinks.
Right she acts loke He was not even there
Were there any yells for help recorded on the video? He never yelled for help.
I dont understand how any teens not charged with assault and illegally drinking in public and underage.
Prosecutorial discretion + elections + wanting a conviction = understand.
The teenagers were taunting him. Why? At that point, he should have moved away when outnumbered. Going crazy and stabbing people was the dumbest thing he could have done. Now an entire community and many families destroyed.
She has a good memory of previous events with Miu but cannot remember anything about tubing. I'm not picking on her. PTSD
WHO bought the kids alcohol? 🍺
@@sunset6010Yes. A lot of folks at fault here all the way around.
I still think this whole situation is terribly tragic,,, that being said he was slapped and pushed down in water and if that was my grandfather or my dad, I think I would of wanted for him to protect himself…I don’t think any one of the stab wounds was intentional and I do think he was just wielding the knife wildly around him because a very large group of people who were surrounding and attacking him…self defense…all day!!!!
Amen
But if it was your teenager, you'd think differently.
@@jazzycat312 But if you are a non bias third party, like me, you'd thing the guy has every right to defend himself against 13 people.
@steve8803 why didn't he leave?
@@jazzycat312 the same reason nobody else left.
Prosecution seemed frustrated with the interview. Apparently he thought she'd answer things differently. She didn't seem interested in helping his case.. shocking.
Or maybe she was lying and covering his monster husband.
I can’t believe his so called “friends “ didn’t try to help him
one came over - Ariel
They didn’t want to stop again to look for the phone. Miu wanted to. They had just stopped for lunch. No one asked Miu to go look for that phone.
Ernesto supposedly lost his shoes on his way over there but had to stop and couldn’t go any further. Not much makes sense in this.
This ex wife is lying through her teeth. Why did she divorce him?,????
What do think professor ? could it be after he stabbed several young people 🤔 one fatally !
To protect their money most likely
To prevent them being sued civilly - she admitted whilst giving evidence she still loves him.
She divorced him because he stabbed her in the shower.
If he was so mean to her then why did she still hangout with him?
This would have never happened if He had never charged at the teens to begin with. He knew he had a knife and was not scared hit one girl and stabbed the other before the boys start pushing him away and slap him . He is guilty of pre meditated murder when he began DISEMBOWELLING folks with great expertise and un noticed.
Period this is every ones nightmare.
The kids where telling him to leave he didnt so they resolved to insults then because clearly they sensed this man is dangerous and acting weird assulting the boys first when a strange big crazy eyed man approached them and grabbed at them .
Creep knew he had a weapon and wanted a fight not listening ever to the teens yelling for him to leave 1st so they tried insults to get him too leave.
This creep is not innocent or acting inself defense!!!
Yes yes yes why so many people can’t get simple facts straight. This guy shouldn’t have done what he did!! Anyone can say anything doesn’t mean you can stab or gut them!
"Crazy eyed man approached them and grabbed them"
Right. Not awkward, tense man who recently had a quadruple bypass and feels vulnerable anyway? Not seeing fear in them crazy eyes are you?
No - he's crazy. In a country stacked with guns, no one could imagine lethal force ever being used!
So, sensibly, they just mock him. They take his snorkel and throw it. Then, lie that he was peeping at little girls, he's a 'raper' and cackle like hyenas as he turns away, only to find he's blocked by more nasty kids who can't handle their beer.
When exactly did he hit the girl? Looks like she was was touching him and he pushed her away, eventually. Have you ever had THIRTEEN drunk morons surround you, screaming so you can't think, calling you a paedophile? Touching you? Knocking you into water?
If he saw an escape route, you think they wouldn't follow? Looks like they were in fact following.
He's gesturing to friends. He is clearly hypervigilant (or 'crazy eyed').
Have you ever felt so separated from friends, ambushed, screamed over? Had to deal with multiple angry people who are all picking a different fight? Your adrenaline takes over. It's almost beyond your control if you genuinely fear for life and he did, clearly.
If someone is stabbed in the belly and they pull back suddenly (the first strike, after being THROTTLED was clearly accidental) the guts are likely to follow. The fact the blows are low suggest defensive to me.
It's a tragedy, extremely sad someone died. The dynamics of mobs are very powerful and people should know more about the hysteria and diffused responsibility.
Miu is not guilty. People need to stop being spiteful aggressive ringpieces
@@Ida_Dunne_Moore he killed someone..intentionally or not- someone died becuz
he pulled out a knife..he looks nuts
AMEN
@@Ida_Dunne_MooreYou're going to Hell. You know that, don't you?
Horrible, tragic incident.
Miu obviously should have announced what he was doing, but the rest is on the awful, toxic group madness. He clearly feared for his life, and im not surprised.
Extremely sad a boy died. I urge people to learn about the mentality found in mobs, in-groups & out-groups, persecution games and diffused responsibility
Absolutely agree 100% in what you posted… beyond tragic😔😔🙏
He could have said “get back I have a knife.” Anything!!! He could have told police that from the get go. Instead of lying about the entire thing trying to blame the knifes on the kids.
@@CKing-388 could have. Maybe. I don't think you've been in a tunnel vision panic mode if you can argue that
How about they stopped jumping him? Accusing him of things that frequently enough lead to beatings? Stopped following and harassing him and screaming like jackals?
Miu knew he was putting self in a position where a group of teens might attack him, he seemed bold, because he had a knife, they're telling him to go away, and calling him names meant nothing to him.
This Prosecutor is not perpared at all... needs paper... then markers.
He's a State Prosecutor? 1st trail?
He could learn from a good attorney like Mr. Nelson.
Nicholas is out of luck with his Lawyer. Allthe kids were Monsters and should be accountable as well. Tragedy could have been aappropriately. Drunk River Monsters would have acted appropiately.
100% with you….
Paint drying on the wall has more personality than this woman🙄
She’s testifying in a court of law and in an unenviable position thanks to her ex husband. So would you like her to maybe make some jokes or make sh*t up like so many others in this case ?
@@18618madeinamerica
She looks/acts disinterested & pissed she is there.. she doesn't seem to knw much about her husband ie: What kind of engineer he is🤔
She came off as though she didn't want to be at the river to begin with; but yet pic of group shows her "animated"
Doesn't have a clue what where her husband was doing at any given time🤔 But knws he only had 2 beers??
js😎
😂😂😂
@Pokee5713 I am sure she is really sad that you weren't entertained by her.
Nic was after that green card I see
I can’t believe so many are siding with him. He got smacked with an open hand after assaulting a woman. He left without a mark on him and he walked away when he was ready to without resistance. He left them with their guts pouring out their bodies , slashed and bleeding. He is a monster!!
You didn’t watch the video of all those young men attacking him, did you?
Exactly how do 5 people end up stabbed and 1 young kid looses his life and he ends up without a scratch on him?! And the young kids are the ones that attacked him? They might have been loud but were the ones attacked! He knows what he did because when they put him in the police car his comment was “I heard someone got stabbed and they looked like me”! So lying from the beginning!
@@terrie6738and did you hear them ALL tell him to turn around and leave several times and then aggravated the whole situation by hitting one of the females then that’s when the guys said no you don’t hit a girl and tried to keep him down that’s when he disemboweled the man??
He's the only one that used lethal force
he’s a lunatic he came out of it unscathed he might of been bullied which is horrendous in itself and he might’ve had a few smacks, but that just does not justify him flailing around with a knife and stabbing everybody he’s a violent lunatic and he wants locking up
To anyone defending Miu the psychopath, you need to watch his testimony, the victims testimonies, the video they filmed of him instigating & punching the young girl first.
Facts, he was looking at them underwater w his goggles on
Mius friends told him NOT to approach the young kids as they'd think he was a pedophile
His friends said NOT to look for their phone as they had insurance & didn't care
Miu checked his pocket to ensure he had his knife PRIOR to approaching them (he planned to do harm prior to approaching them
Miu ran up to their tube's grabbing their legs & rope
The teens yelled at him several times telling him to get away, to leave them alone to go go go
Miu had MANY opportunities to leave but stated he DIDNT
Mius friends told Miu to leave them alone but he still didn't
It was ONLY AFTER Miu approached the 2 teen girls hovering over them, they told him to leave telling him he's a predator that he initiated the fight by PUNCHING the girl in the face & throwing her back
It was ONLY AFTER Miu started it that the girls guy friends pushed Miu back & punched him
(Mind you Miu already pulled his knife out holding it at his side PRIOR to punching the girl in the face AND Miu had a SMIRK as he held his knife)
When Miu stabbed AJ, he held the knife blade up and "gutted" him from intestines up to diaphragm
He said he would have gotten more if he could have to have more "bellies up".
Miu LIED about the entire event to his friends, wife, police who arrested him & to investigators. He said he heard kids yelling & kids being kids. He said he didn't see anyone hurt (as the psycho floated past the destruction he caused causally as if nothing happened)
Before police arrested him. He'd put on a long sleeve shirt, sunglasses and hat to disguise himself trying to walk past the first cop he saw.
NOT ONCE did Miu state he was Assaulted, that he was fearful or fighting for his life until he realized they had a video of the entire event. Prior to that he LIED stating the kids had knives & they threatened him with it. All a LIE. Then Miu said that he took the kids hand that was holding the knife and used the kids hand to stab the kid. All a LIE. His entire testimony he "couldn't remember ANYTHING" except his feelings of annoyance claiming he wasn't angry. His lies are so preposterous it's disgustingly laughable.
The guy is a straight up psychopath & should have gotten 2nd degree murder. I don't believe he planned to do that necessarily PRIOR to going to Apple river, but per the facts of the case, it shows he intended to do significant damage or kill them prior to his approaching them (again checking his pocket to ensure he had his knife). Another thing as he approached the kids initially, he put his goggles in his mouth to have his hands free to grab the kids. Miu instigated this entire thing & Assaulted them first. He's a ticking time bomb.
The police found a MACHETE in his vehicle...Mius own wife testified he carries it with him "in the case of a road rage incident"
For anyone who is naive or uniformed of these cluster b sociopathic psychopathic personalities I highly recommend you research & study it and listen to every interview & video of this case so you will not become of victim of his type.
They are nothing but hateful, vindictive, offensive, manipulative, spiteful dangerous individuals who feel ENTITLED to punish anyone who they feel offended by. Any normal person would simply walk away from any conflict escalating whatsoever. He gutted FIVE kids who told him to leave them alone numerous times.
He should have gotten life in prison without parole. Please watch every video before making uniformed assumptions. I admit I too thought the kids started it & felt bad for him UNTIL I watched every video & interview. I then was disgusted by him. He is a walking evil being. I 💯 believe he lost weight to appear this feeble old man playing poor me victim (typical) of the real perpetrators. Notice how none of the real victims acted this way?! Not ONCE was he remorseful for the damage and death he caused UNTIL immediately prior to sentencing. Miu deserves to rot a long life in prison, I hope he never is released.
Jessica - very interesting analysis !!
Well you’re in denial. Guessing you’re around these kids ages, hence why you’re on their side? Have you actually watched the full video? How much abuse is one supposed to go through until self defence comes into play? Who knows whether or not one of the teenagers also had a knife? Nic was outnumbered by 6 young men and 4 young women. What planet are you living on …
@@WHI73LIONright and they were so scared that they got right up on him to cursed and yelled at him. The most aggressive ones weren’t even part of the original group but came over because they heard the yelling.
I guess it's who you relate most to: the guy who stabs people then lies about it or young people having fun with their friends
The defense opened the door wide when he asked the killer’s wife if he was ever known to be violent!
How about asking the wife if SHE was ever hit by the killer? Who wants to bet he has?
But the prosecution let it close slowly, softly, with barely a whisper.
Pretty low brow to make completely unsubstantiated claims like this.
There is a reason he wasn't we the group their is a reason they divorced
Defending yourself does not make you a killer get your facts straight
The man would not be a killer if it Was not for idiots messing with the wrong guy. That group of idiots thought they had a victim and that person ended up poking them back. One of them won the darwin award.
Agree. He looks crazy.
Everyone is crazy
Yes but that doesn't excuse knifing people
Perfect Comment!!!!
The more of this trial I watch the more I'm convinced this Nicolae is a Russian mobster and they prosecutor is intentionally throwing the trial because he's had threats made against him. Nobody can be this bad of a prosecutor for real. How does the guy even have a job. He's a total snooze fest besides.
He is a mechanical engineer. He was born in Romania and came to the US with his family when he was 15.
Well maybe he thinks those punks had it coming, which they did!
I was starting to think the same because of the old-country blade technique. Someone responded to your comment saying that he came to the US when he was 15. Did his family land in inner-city Detroit or Oakland, California? He's using a particular technique with that blade: Keeping the knife low and away from the victim's/antagonist's view and using a swift abdomen-to-sternum underhand technique. This is not the blade-use of a novice.
Also, look at the comments under the other videos. You see crazy support for this guy. I don't know. Did the good people of Minnesota already decide these kids were no good because they were doing weed on the river?
@@Cletus_the_ElderHis friends said that he is good with tools and a little bit of a handy man. He immigrated to the US with his family as political refugees and settled in Minnesota. He went to Dakota for school to get his degree as a mechanical engineer. His friends told him to bring that knife along to cut ropes that tie the tubes, but eventually he used this knife to kill someone.
@@Cletus_the_Elder That's another reason I thought he might be in the mob - the people sticking up for him. I'm sorry, but if every smart-mouth teen was stabbed for being cocky, we wouldn't have very many teenagers left. "He feared for his life." He was with a bunch of other people. If they thought he was in serious danger, why didn't they come to help him?
25 minutes in and it's clear she doesn't care he killed or hurt anyone
If this lady doesn’t remember anything, and the transcripts don’t recall her recollection then she is a waste of witness time! Clearly she doesn’t want to say what she saw!! GUILTY!!!!
And what would she be guilty of?
Question is what would any 50+ year old man would have done in this situation. If kids are jarring at you, calling you fat, a pedophile or whatever, how do you react if outnumbered? If it were me I'd probably say, "yeah yeah all you kids will look like me in 40 years. enjoy your tubing. if you were older id offer you beer. take care. " Diffuse the situation, play nice , be joking and friendly despite insults, and give them space. That seems to be the best way to avoid this scenario
Right O!
not disembowel people?
For your information he stated drama with them FIRST. he ran up to them and literally put his hands on their tubes to stop their progress.
Then when he was snorkeling he said he was looking for little girls. That pissed the group off. That's when they called him a pedaphile and raper.
He also was told by a few ladies to go somewhere, they didn't want trouble and then proceeded to punch the blonde in the side of her face when she tried to walk away.
That fired the group up even more.
Yall need to get all your facts before you start this bleeding heart bs in reference to the stabber/murderer.
@@raduvalentin8648exactly
@@tranquility9325The kids were out of line and they could have walked away as well. This didn't have to go the way it did. So many ways out by both parties but none were taken. Very sad situation.
Peter…..Nick approached the “kids” + never spoke! He appeared creepy + weird….ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS WALK AWAY…..+ go back to his group! And if he did nothing would have happened! Period!
Or option 2, they could have called authorities. Instead of antagonizing potentially dangerous individuals. Searching for little girls with snorkle gear? Seems like a smart ass response.
The river is public space, he have every right to be there
Just as much as they could have WALKED AWAY from what they testified to as a creepy weird guy who terrified them.
@@Zhana808 but they didn’t approach Nick! He came to them + touched their tubes! Why would THEY need to walk away? Huh????
@@Buttercup203 he stopped the tubes from going on.
I wonder if this couple got divorced just to protect their financials so they can keep as much of their money as they can. Also, I hope the families of teenagers do file a civil suit 2.5 M each for each child that was stabbed & assaulted and 25M for the murder victim's family
@Annie497 he was found guilty on all charges
I hope he gets sued for everything he has. This man never should walk free
It's all fun and games till somebody has their Intestines in their hands.
You know your husband was over there and you know someone got hurt but didn’t ask your husband a single question about what happened. WTF!! Plus her husband got attacked which she saw.
It sounds like she may have been coached to answer questions a certain way. And it sounds like that happened on both sides.
Ok here it is. Nik approached the kids and made a smartass comment when one of the snot-nosed kids (in his mind) asked him what he was doing. His smart ass comment was that he was looking for little girls. From that snarkiness came the boys specific heckling of him, calling him a pedophile. Why else would they have picked that particular insult? Nik fidgets with his knife on the way over to the boys, making sure he had it with him. He was preparing for a fight. Dare I say, he was aching for a fight. He was enjoying the back and forth with the kids, and then the adults, smiling and smirking. When it changed from teenage heckling to adult confrontation, he got mad. I interject here, he had ample time and opportunity to do the mature thing, step back and leave. He had no business there. Instead, he disliked being confronted by adults and embarrassed by the heckling, and he lashed out and punched the blonde. THAT is what got the fight started. Nice to know that those modern young men knew, traditionally, it was very wrong for a man to punch a woman. He knew it, everyone knew it. He should have expected repercussions for that act. He should have made a quick exit. But instead he told himself that those people weren't going to scare him or boss him around. After all, he had his knife. And when he saw the reaction to him punching a woman, he brought out his knife and surreptitiously opened it, getting it ready for action. He was going to show them who was boss. And then he just lost it as the unarmed boys and young men overwhelmed him. He stabbed, and then gutted everyone near him. He had "consciousness of guilt" throwing away the knife, and acting oblivious with law enforcement. He said he was even fearful of the police. Because he KNEW what he did was wrong, and he didn't want to be held accountable. He actually wanted to get away killing one and injuring the others. That is the height of arrogance, the trait he exhibited from the very first moment he approached the teens. This need to dominate must have been growing in him for a long time. HE IS SO VERY GUILTY. I hope the judge doesn't reward him with concurrent sentences. He killed and injured consecutively ... he should serve his punishment consecutively. I rest my case.
You know he in fact never said anything about little girls? That's been established.
Nicolae Miu has been treated terribly. They were disgusting and continue to lie
Notice when she said Nic is a very peaceful person she follows by shaking her head no
Notice that context matters and this means sth else
Really????? Is Ms Sandi stoned or what???? She acts like she is on another planet. She is trying to escape reality. If I had done what Mui did to those young people, I would not be able to sit through this trial. He was the "adult" in that situation and should have said, "No problems" and turned and waded away, instead of engaging with a bunch of teenagers. He approached a crowd of young strangers and when they told him to go, he should have gone.
It says X wife.
I agree with this but at the same time, once you are hit and shoved in the water, you are technically allowed to defend yourself and the only people he stabbed that day were approaching/attacking/touching him right after he was or during he was being hit!
Obviously those 2 females were INTOXICATED ADULTS- AJ and Dante BOTH ADULTS. Sorry you don’t like that
Lol , No. child better walk away from adult.
@@angelagazzo4800they only divorced for financial reasons in case he is sued
She gave her husband a Glock for Valentine’s Day. Her “peaceful” husband. She’s full of it.
Owning a gun doesn't mean you are violent. What a dumb statement.
@@ethanbill9224 most peaceful gift you can give, lol
@@nancydrew5606 how many gun owners do you know personally?
@@ethanbill9224 I was married to a gun enthusiast for 15 yrs., my second husband was shot in the back by his brother . So, enough.
@@nancydrew5606 I'm sorry that happened. I hope your husband is OK.
Prosecutor is hopeless
It’s like going on a roller coaster in slow motion.
This case is gripping, horrifying and full of jaw-dropping testimony and there’s no passion, no organization.
I don’t know what would happen if there was no video.
Are they inexperienced or what?!?
@@susieannei5641what would have happened is they’d have lied him into prison for life for defending himself. The video’s the only good thing that came from that drunk and drug induced mob.
@@Zhana808 except it was used to convict him, sadly
The Stabber Miu is so screwed it ain't funny. Mark my words
Useless witness
Wait , This is his ex wife now ?
This prosecutor is the pits. He's woefully unprepared, is asking witless questions, and seemingly has no idea what he's doing. He seems to be looking to rely on emotions. His interrogation of the wife isn't about facts. It's about emotion. He wants to use her to prove that Nick is a violent, easily provoked man. I think she's holding on quite well.
Parents you need to do a better job of raising your teenagers look at all the misery that they caused.
One weapon, 4 people stabbed, 1 punch/slap and
one death at the scene.
Alcohol didn't disembowel that boy who laid in the water with his bowels exposed on his stomach.
@@brendafainsbert4236are you serious, a lot more happened. Watch the video. 💯 self defence.
Kids need to arm themselves to make sure this never happens again
America is so gross now.
Kids need to understand that they can't be disrespectful like these kids were or they will find themselves in similar positions. People are not going to put up with blatant disrespect and anyone thinking they should is a simp and a half.
Maybe kids should be taught not to taunt adults like that and they won't have to get corrected by strangers. Unfortunately, such corrections can be severe.
None of this would have happened if those kids had not bullied that man. But some people don't think they'll get spanked for being a jerk if there's a lot of jerks around them. They feel empowered enough to eff around. They picked the wrong one and found out.
The sudden change in their tones -from sheer delight in their jovial taunts - to terrified horror should be used to remind people how cause and effect works when you forget to not be a jerk. Never underestimate how far people will go to correct disrespectful people. Some people will go to extremes to teach bullies a lesson.
Remember that, kids.
If someone pushes you, how many people are you allowed to stab?
Oh, they just pushed him?
Why do the jackal-supporters have to consistently ignore the horrendous behaviour and assaults they perpetrated?
@Ida_Dunne_Moore sorry pushed twice and slapped once. He had the knife out before anyone touched him. When he was standing up from the 2nd push, the girl now 20 feet away is bleeding. Then he stabbed jean short guy for trying to break it up. He is not the innocent one all. The jury agreed he was the aggressor and 2 even wanted a higher penalty.
@@drewgoodman9014 They had taunted, called him a paedophile, followed, mobbed and surrounded him and he knew what was coming. Anyone would.
Those young idiots are all responsible to varying degrees
Interesting that on Nic's peeps videos they spoke a little english But in court today would not even say yes or no in english. Instead, they expect our tax dollars to hire people to speak translate for them. Maybe they should have done a little homework on USA laws, rules, language and consequences of actions. She realizes he doesn't care about his consequences in another country.
I would imagine that it is preferred by the courts if people speak the language that will get the most clear answers.
What do you mean by "...they should have done a little homework on USA laws, rules, languages...". Because we don't have an official language. Language access laws have been in place since 1964 with the civil rights act and then confirmed multiples times in subsequent courts.
@@BooyagasWife Well McFly the USA Citizenship test does indeed test for english.!! USA Is indeed ENGLISH-- lmao- more than likely They aren't even citizens but no doubt many languages spoken here.dah- Us Law-abiding citizens have had enough!! Deport their sorry arses. Stop Wasting our Tax dollars on criminals !!
@@BooyagasWife Go back to africa if you dont speak english loser
@@BooyagasWife he was pretty knowledgable about communist countries. thank god we dont live in one and get to see this mayhem play out on youtube!
@@Handicaponsundays They came looking for the American dream and they got it LOL we all put up with punk kids but that's no excuse for death
Also they all saying kids where rude respect elders. Well you actually gotta earn respect.
The way an older bigger crazed eyed man charges at them ,stops their float and grabs at them .
ARE THESE ACTS OF A SO CALLED RESPECTFUL ADULT NEEDING SUPPOSEDLY HELP LOOKING FOR A PHONE ????
LOOKS LIKE HE WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR A FIGHT BECAUSE HE DIDNT EVER USE HIS WORDS TOO DEESCALATE ANYTHING BUT KILLED A TEEN AND STABBED 5 FOLKS IN NO TIME.
NOT JUST STABBED BUT DISEMBOWELLING THEM!!
This is the most confusing part for me,what is the excuse for Mui rushing to them.Theory 1,Mui was just working hard to navigate up stream to retrieve phone in that location.Second theory he was being creepy.
Would love to know what Mui said during Cockfields vid when Cockfields said “ what did he say “?
@@angelapyle7301 he said he thought he saw a kid w/the phone he was looking for &
i guess that's why he ran up.
Even "peaceful" people can act violent if pushed to that point or if they're intoxicated... He had plenty of time to leave. I don't believe that she didn't see anything when people who were passing by and weren't as close as their group could hear the boys and went to help. He never said a single word during the altercation and the videos prove that. There's a second video from another witness that shows the larger scope of it. He is the one that approached, he is the one that threw the first hit, he is the one that lunged, he is the one that had tons of opening to run off but chose to keep stabbing people, even when his friends were present. He's a murderer. Plain and simple. This is not self defense. He needs to face the consequences.
he must have ask if they FOUND a phone--it's why he came running.
Is that what you are, "peaceful?" Don't hurt anyone, psycho.
Oh? And where is the video that shows something completely different?
Something seems really off with both Sondra and Nicolae…..
He could have left at anytime, the only reason it escalated is because he wouldn’t leave. He threw his snorkel in the water and charged at guys sitting in their tubes. The ease with which he killed and stabbed these people I don’t think this is the first time he has killed. His group didn’t even stop to check in with police while passing by and he put on a disguise . He knew he was wrong.
He could have left true, but the kids escalated. Did you not watch the video where he gets pushed in the water, slapped in the face, hands around his neck? And that is OK?
@@bonnenaturel6688believe me there is not one thing I have missed. Nic admitted to it during his testimony on the stand
Acting like he didn’t stab 5 people. Painting him as a weak man.
You act like a drunken mob didn't attack him.
it's called strategy, a defense. Every side needs to bring out all their cards. The kids will be portrayed as nice kids too by other witnesses, but they were very aggressive and not very nice before the physical confrontation and stabbings. Nicer people would have had an uneventful happy day on the river, whether young or old.
Acting like he wasn't attacked by an angry mob of much younger drink people while being cheered on by another drunk mob.
@@trevorrasmussen204 Aaron in college now? Which one does he go to? I'll make sure to send you his entrails Trevor.
I would have never been picked as a juror. I can't wrap my head around stabbing 5 ppl. Maybe jabbing at 1 as a gesture while you back away to leave, but 5 and the level of damage- I can't justify no matter how "good" the defense attempts to paint a picture.
Thinks the most oblivious woman on the planet.
Her (ex) husband is being tried for murder... What do you expect her to be like. She's probably pissed and sad and feels like her life was just stolen from her.
If he’s innocent, I would expect her to be more forthcoming with information. How are you gonna think your husband is in trouble but have no clue about any details before or after. How are you just going to “float away” after there is a big commotion and not ask questions or stay to find out if the kids get in trouble.
Everything is “I don’t know”, “I can’t remember”…blah blah blah. BS!
Maybe her life wouldn’t feel so stolen from her if her husband could control his temper and not stab people for sport. 🤷🏽♀️
You’re a tartar Elizabeth
@@true-crIM How do you know she feels her life was stolen from her? And she is having to recall information from two years ago.
@@bonnenaturel6688 I was replying to the first person to reply to my comment. They said “she feels like her life was just stolen from her”
If one thing this traumatic happened with your spouse, you wouldn’t talk it about it at length over the course of 2 years? You wouldn’t talk about all the details that led them to be in trial for murder? If you witnessed this first hand, in part or in full, you wouldn’t have vivid memories for the day? I’m not buying it. She is keeping her lips sealed because she thinks it’s helping her now ex husband.
So was he acting like he was all alone. Why wasn't anyone with him. I feel dumb bcuz I didn't see anyone with him for that whole time. So aunesto probably should have been there with the man who stabbed all those people, 5 people. As they are watching him back n forth with these kids, just standing there, duh. Maybe nic needs some help!°
Guess you didn’t listen to opening statements
Hat on or off omg sunglasses on sunny day. Friend asked him to bring knife something for cutting. Rope calling her to stand really was not useful. That was unless.
The wife was better for the prosecution then the stab victims were.
She is trying to excuse herself of all the details. She doesn’t want to associate herself with the events that took place that day. Not sure if it’s because of the trauma of it all or if she is just a heartless person.
She will be judged for this false account for eternity.
Her allegiance to this man rather than the truth will haunt her until her eyes open in the presence of God Himself... She will then account for these lies.
I think she’ll tell the truth if he goes to prison. If you have a husband who is that calm after violence, would you really want to antagonise him? The divorce as soon as he’s safely locked away speaks volumes.
What about the kids who lied through their teeth over and over and over?? Will they also be judged for their clear lies??
That's the effing pot calling the kettle black every one of those punks lied through their teeth high and drunk with adults their. Wanna run with the big dogs don't cry when you get schooled!
You all internet warriors think these people should always speak the truth and forget about emotions and loyalty. If my wife, ex-wife or kid committed a crime, I will always take their side and never help the prosecution.
@@roostercogburn6469 r/iamverybadass
Who cares when she saw him, no onè was there to help him ffs.
Ernesto lost his phone and Nicolae went to find it and Ernesto didn't even help Nicolae find his own phone and where was Ernesto when the mob was attacking Nicolae.
why didnt he walk away? or communicate does he not know how to speak?
@@miggans21012 a stupid phone - a water-logged phone at that.
most people would kiss it goodbye!
Drunk young men and women started the entire event at / in the Apple River that day.
Mr Miu was on his own, well behaved, minding his own business, not disturbing anyone and looking for something with his goggles in shallow water. It was totally unnecessary to be confronted by drunk youths, who also unnecessarily started horrible name-calling and harrassment of Mr Miu. Soon gradually joined by equally drunk youths, the harassment continued and escalated.
Mr Miu did not bring a knife on that day, planning or hoping to injure, or kill, someone. It apears that the sport "tubing" requires knives for cutting ropes, etc. Like other people, Mr Miu was in possession of a knife for that purpose.
Mr Miu was a single person, being confronted and aggrevated by a group of very loud drunk people, also having knives in their possession.
It was, however, wrong swinging the knife, injuring people. On the other hand, If the drunk youth minded their own business and left Mr Miu alone to enjoy his day at the river, the entire horrible event would certainly have been avoided !!!!!!!!!!
Not one of that group came over to help any of the 5 people he stabbed! Why?
Because they were afraid of the drunken, drug-addicted teens.
Actually two did
A bunch of people helped.
Maybe they didnt want to touch random peoples blood. Maybe it's not their responsibility. Maybe they were shocked and trying to process what happened. Maybe others were already trying to help the injured. Maybe they were afraid that if they approached they would get called pedophiles and rapists.
This is a crock of bs. These drunk punks surround some man pushing him down, ganging up calling names and hitting him so he defends himself and you put him on trial?? What kind of justice is this? Bullsheet!
Your having high-school flash backs. This dude was drunk and flew into a rage.
@@dominiquetatum7034 Not according to the video.
Self defense all day long. They taunted him, surrounded him, attacked him. He walked away from the teens who surrounded him. Another group came to meet him screaming at him. They put their hands on him. He used his left hand to get them off him. They attacked him. He responded in fear for his life. I feel bad for this family. He had a right to defend himself. All the other witnesses have lied and said he puched her with his right hand which had a knife in it. Its impossible for him to have punched her. They are trying to cover up a beat down of an old man who had a knife.
They can't cover it up, it's all on video. We all know what instigated the situation. It is as plain as day. He may be guilty of manslaughter by law, but let the trial figure that out. I can tell you that this man wanted no part of the aggressive hoodlums and tried to walk away and ignore, but they baited him until it got physical. It's too bad he had a knife. however, there was no guarantee that group wouldn't have severely injured him or killed him depending on how violent their emotions were in whatever condition they were in.
@@davida1977 that's how I saw it too.
What! He disemboweled a 17 year old, murdered another 17 year old stabbed 3 other people and punched a woman in the face. THEN he did everything to try and lie and conceal that fact. GUILTY. Murderer.
@@davida1977 "I can tell you that this man wanted no part of the aggressive hoodlums and tried to walk away and ignore"
huh?? We must not be seeing the same video. He started the whole interaction by grabbing their inner tubes and he had multiple opportunities to walk away.
@@drewc771 yes, it is unclear why he was by the innertubes. I didn't see any video before that, as to how those parties met together. We know that the man went to search for a phone. I don't think he went down the river searching for groups of teens or searching to collect some innertubes. This is what we will learn from the trial and what crime and punishment he will get according to the law. And later in the video you can see the man making some distance between them as the group size increased. Why did the knife come out? He didn't bring it out to flatten innertubes. He got pushed into the water against a group 13-1. Even if he didn't have a knife and just pushed back, it wouldnt have ended well. Definitely was not premeditated, and the teens behavior certainly led to the confrontation unfortunately.
Simple self defense in any place but lawless bleeding heart Minnesota
did the prosecutor present just how many times a person should be hit before they are in fear of the attacks? I've actually known someone who killed a man nics age with one punch. he wasn't in court and prison for nearly a decade as the victim after that death either... he also had to take responsibility to get parole.
You do know this happened in Wisconsin right?
@@Lollyk13 same thing , I live across the border,I don't know which state is more ridiculous...it's a tie
@@larryrhodes7300 Where you stay so I can make you meet god, cowpoke
You people, he wasn't just one of the kids. What was he doing around those kids? Why wasn't he with his group?
Genuine question. Did this woman agree to testify and then see that video during the course of this trial and regret her decision? That’s the vibe I get.
Attorney: Don't say "you guys" or use slang in a court of law.
Gee, I wonder why the prosecution called her as a witness and the defense didn't?
She's an evasive liar for her ex husband, but I'm glad she got away from him. How safe was she with the machete he had hidden in his truck? She escaped this mad man, probably saved her life in the long run.
i hope that she can spend the rest of her life out from under him and blossoming in some way. surround herself with healthy people. create a self for herself.
i think she did--NOW think of someone else!
It is amazing the assumptions made here about who she is and how she feels.
The attorney that's talking with Sondra Miu at the start of this video needs to brush up on his bedside manners lol. Just because these witnesses are made to be there doesn't mean they should be spoken to abruptly and talked down to. Same with when Anthony Carlsons father was on the stand he was spoken to very abruptly and spoken down to as well. It's not right there's a way to get their point across without trying to make someone feel stupid.
She is trying to not be helpful. Scared?
why would they have to float the way they just came from? They lost the phone up river, Nic walked back to find it....then they had to paddle back and pass the area the phone dropped?
First where my husband is I am when people come up to my husband we don’t know I’m right there any woman starts yelling at my husband I’m in front of him and i handle it! And I’m 41!! This would never of happened if she was with her husband helping him I don’t know other peoples marriages but my husband wouldn’t let me go that far in the water with out him an I wouldn’t let him!!
Ex husband, they are divorced
@@rominahorn427she's on trial for him murdering a kid... What should she look like?? Pretty sure the divorce is to protect their money in case of a lawsuit after this trial.
Yes, they were divorced last month in March 2024.
@@trevorrasmussen204Oh ic... That is what I tried to figure out. She said that she still loves him very much.
@@trevorrasmussen204 she not on trial```, she's a twitness
She's definitely lying for him, but just in general, she doesn't want to be associated with the the case. I do feel bad for her, she's trying to protect him, but she's also realized her own life is disintegrating at a rapid rate. They had to sell their house for the lawyer's fees. She's 100 on her own now ...whatever they have in the bank, or house is used up. Remember, she isn't working any longer, either.
She appears very sad, poor memory for it being approximately 20 months after incident. Most likely an X wife for financial reasons. He's in prison.
I'm just a few moments into the video where they're showing the whole group out on the river together and it stands in such juxtaposition to what transpires later. I (as I'm sure many who will read this) have floated rivers throughout my whole life. While I've seen confrontations on the river, it's always been a couple drunkards and over fairly quickly. Those days are sunny, happy, fund days surrounded by friends. It's so easy to find new people on the river to laugh with, share a story and have a beer that it makes this all the more tragic. I don't know much about the story yet but my assumption is that alcohol played a part (excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong). I stopped drinking at the beginning of 2023 but I bartend in the summers and people often say "that must be hard to bartend and not drink" but it's not at all. It so often brings out the worst in people, turns and friendly person into a nasty aggressive one or just a stammering, stumbling, fool. Anyway, it's trite but what a total waste of multiple lives over something so stupid and avoidable.
I have one question why are they not getting the stab wound victims or the water and to the hospital? I get they are in the river idc take a float a boat a canoe something to get them out of there and that dirty water. I’d be like get me to the hospital now. I need to read up on this how have I not heard about this.
This is like a joke ! They lawyer is so stupid and ask so many unnecessary question!
We don't know of they're unnecessary questions, they can be very important to the case. When a witness just continues to claim to not remembering so many things, it might give the appearance of many questions being unnecessary.
Soulless.
His wife surely is suffering greatly, but tell the truth, do not defend actions that led to death and serious injuries. Follow a decent moral compass. So many lives ruined in minutes.
What you have here is a dynamic between two generations. Mr. Muse generation says just do no harm don’t instigate problems don’t be mouthy and then you got this other group this young punk ass group who wants to think that there are the center of the universe and that they can say and do whatever the heck they want because you know they’re so dang important on they’ve got cell phones and content is everything and we’re gonna show this guy because we’re so dang hot and cool and neat. We’ve got six packs and, a bag of chips. I think the wrong persons are on trial. Mr. fat man football player who’s so scared you know because he waste nearly 300 pounds and he’s an athlete. I can see why he would be scared of 57-year-old man who had open-heart surgery. He’s the ringleader he’s the one that started the whole thing. He’s the one that is the mastermind behind the whole thing without his actions never happened. He should be on trial.
After you see the video and hear about the alcohol consumption you may change your mind about who is at fault here. After sseing and hearing testimony I think this is justified self defence.
good thing there isnt only video evidence, dude hid the murder weapon. not smart!
She is over this.
It was a mistake to have this woman testify. If he loses, she is responsible.
Do you mean if he wins? She's a prosecution witness, the defense didn't have a choice in the matter
She is a horrendous witness, and this prosecutor is horrendous at getting information out of her. Did none of them prepare for this testimony??? Jeezus
Im watching this after the verdict, thankfully, and thank god there was video proof of what actually happened because she did NOT help their case!
Good move on the prosecutor's part of you ask me. She is very unsympathetic and makes Miu look bad.
Why doesn't this woman work? She is not of retirement age.
Does Miu call for help in the video?
How is this debatable? He was harassing the group up until he attacked them maliciously.
Nope, the other way round and he defended himself against his attackers.
Coming back to this to mock you when he is acquitted
"Not feeble" says she.
This woman is evasive AF
Donna Kelce?
All parents of the 5 losers should be sued.
he approached THEM! dig?
Are you a Russian mobster ? These poor kids didn't deserve to die for being mouthy. This jerk needs to go back to Russia, and you defending him murdering kids is gross. What is wrong with you? Their life is changed forever and somebody lost their child! In what civilized world is this what these kids deserved or anybody would've even expected? He isn't even injured!! They're dead and stabbed! Equal force is all the law allows, and you might would know that if the prosecutor was even halfway decent at his job.
@@skibee421thank you for being a decent human being!!
😂
That bastard was jealous of those young guys!
LMFAO! Okaaayyy…
I wonder what is the public opinion of the young ppl? Do all of them think this losers did the right thing?
Juwan was responsible for this ENTIRE event
Don't worry Nick, you'll be freed soon and we'll all head over to the Apple river for a day of fun !
It’s called a PEACEmaker for a reason
He wasn't going to let those young punks wreck his peaceful day.
So why did he escalate the situation? He does not seem to be a reasonable and peaceful type of person.
They apparently ruined his life cus he'll be behind bars til then
@@lilg2300I would say he didn't. The Carlson group did. They rushed over and confronted him after he had moved away from the boys. If six or seven drunk angry people run over and get in your face while another six tend cheer in the backgriund yelling at them to do something "for the greater good" I think anyone would freak out. I certainly would never have pulled a knife but I certainly would be freaking out and in defense mode.
Ms Miu should stand behind her husband, and be proud of him for defending himself against overwhelming odds. This is the kind of man she can count on to protect her should the need ever arise.
Ex husband, they are divorced
@@Diane-nu7ro Only on paper, ma'am. It is simply a strategic move to protect their assets from the plethora of lawsuits that are certain to materialize when he is found not guilty. She will get everything in the "divorce", and Mr Miu won't have a dime. And as the old saying goes, the "victims" won't be able to squeeze blood from a turnip! 😎
I heard this reason is the ONLY reason they got divorced
@@jcnix71 makes sense to protect the assets. I didn't find her testimony hurt him. I found her quite credible, not scripted. Not sure why she is on the Prosecutors side? Must have missed something.
He killed a kid , she better play stupid!!
i like her, don't say sh*t abt her! her husband was railroaded by americas finest the outstanding youth gang gang
That is one u..y woman 😮
What's up with the dirty brown creases on her neck?