Elite Janissary vs Every Civ Specific Hand Cannoneer | AoE II: DE

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
  • Elite Janissary vs Every Specific Hand Cannoneer
    Both Imperial Age Fully Upgraded
    00:00 Info
    00:11 vs Generic HC
    00:39 vs Bohemian HC
    01:07 vs Burgundian HC
    01:33 vs Gurjara HC
    02:02 vs Hindustani HC
    02:30 vs Italian HC
    03:05 vs Portuguese HC
    03:42 vs Spanish HC
    04:09 vs Turkish HC
    04:40 Thanks for Watching
    I try each scenario more than once and show the average result.
    BG Music: AoE 4 Ottomans Feudal Combat Theme
    #aoe #aoe2de #ageofempires2
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  • @graphitebendy
    @graphitebendy Місяць тому +4

    Should have used non-elite Jannisaries against Bohemians since their major bonus is Hand Cannons in Castle age

  • @HawkknightXC88
    @HawkknightXC88 2 місяці тому +8

    Gunpowder Wars was brutal back in the Medieval Era.

    • @filipbaselides6498
      @filipbaselides6498 2 місяці тому

      The ones with swords, spears and axes were too. I think that every war method back in the day was wild.

    • @shavaizkhan8165
      @shavaizkhan8165 16 днів тому

      @@filipbaselides6498 Yup and modern day war is all flowers 😅

  • @dirkauditore8413
    @dirkauditore8413 Місяць тому +2

    Quality content, do more with this format, thnx.

  • @saadjahangir8677
    @saadjahangir8677 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice video
    Keep up the good work

  • @jasonsmith1950
    @jasonsmith1950 2 місяці тому +4

    Big takeaways: extra range is huge (Hindustanis slaughtered their opposing janissaries) and discounts are very beneficial (Italians won by a sizable margin; Portuguese were an almost-even fight; Gurjaras didn't do so well but are missing an armor upgrade, resulting in them getting 2-shot). Burgundians extra attack (and lower armor), Spanish faster firing, and Turk extra hp are a bit better than generic, but not that much of an improvement. Bohemian, in this test, may as well be generic. Only comparison left would be "generic" missing ring archer armor (i.e. Georgians, who technically have a hill bonus that's irrelevant to these tests, and Franks) - I'd expect that this would be much worse than generic due to the way breakpoints work.

    • @jaikumar848
      @jaikumar848 Місяць тому +1

      Also hindustanis had extra +1 pierce armour

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 26 днів тому +1

      Don't forget Hindustani has armor and piece armor +1

  • @CaesarCJ15
    @CaesarCJ15 2 місяці тому +8

    So why does Portuguese go with 23 units like a regular civ since they have a 20% discount in gold cost?

    • @hosykamikaze3626
      @hosykamikaze3626 2 місяці тому +8

      turks had -2 units

    • @CaesarCJ15
      @CaesarCJ15 2 місяці тому

      @@hosykamikaze3626 OH my bad, didnt notice that by watching it from my phone 11

  • @humanbass
    @humanbass 9 днів тому

    Portuguese did way better than I expected. The extra accuracy was much more important than the Spanish faster firing rate

  • @lscibor
    @lscibor Місяць тому

    Could be done at least few times each, because there's quite a lot RNG going on with handcannoners in AoE2, at least compared to most other units.
    Though it would obviously take lots of work. :D

    • @Walenaoe
      @Walenaoe  Місяць тому +4

      I try each scenario more than once and show the average result.

  • @widodoakrom3938
    @widodoakrom3938 26 днів тому +1

    Only Hindustani and Italian capable to win

  • @Apocalypse9696
    @Apocalypse9696 2 місяці тому

    there was also a HC that got 100% accuracy, i think it was portugese due to arquebus upgrade

    • @buiquanghuy135
      @buiquanghuy135 2 місяці тому +3

      No, being able to hit moving targets is not the same as 100% accuracy

  • @nimr0del763
    @nimr0del763 2 місяці тому +1

    i don't think there was a consistent result because you didn't arrange the units properly

    • @Walenaoe
      @Walenaoe  2 місяці тому +2

      I expect you to explain how to properly position the units.

  • @spookynya3066
    @spookynya3066 2 місяці тому

    So, is the Janissary better than a Hand Cannoner? Yes and no. Janissary beats HC, but doesn't have the vs infantry bonus. Is essentially a HC that instead of being "really good vs infantry but bad against anything else" is "good against almost everything, especially mele units with high pierce armor".

    • @tomyrobinson3196
      @tomyrobinson3196 2 місяці тому

      The Elite Janissary gets half the hand cannoneer's attack bonus baked into its base attack

    • @spookynya3066
      @spookynya3066 2 місяці тому

      @@tomyrobinson3196 yes, but bonus damage ignores armor, so while HC does 11 bonus damage against infantry no matter how much pierce armor they have, Jenissary's attacks can still be greatly reduced.

    • @user-jm5bl5ex6w
      @user-jm5bl5ex6w 2 місяці тому

      No, janissary upgrade is expensive and turk have free chemical ,no one will upgrade .

    • @PawSmalls
      @PawSmalls 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@spookynya3066 you're already doing way more damage than what any unit can have as pierce armor, so the difference in damage type doesn't matter here.

  • @ichigogunner12345
    @ichigogunner12345 2 місяці тому +2

    I think hindustanis will do the best

  • @longyanshang
    @longyanshang Місяць тому

    Updates are a bit slow

  • @zhelwankarkuky9173
    @zhelwankarkuky9173 Місяць тому +1

    Portuguese can win with micro

  • @cmlcml415
    @cmlcml415 Місяць тому

    Hindustanis HC is da big daddy 😂

  • @raulrossi9735
    @raulrossi9735 2 місяці тому +2

    I think Turks are purple too 😊

  • @brownpleasure9320
    @brownpleasure9320 День тому

    hindustani gunpowder need nerf, to strong. turkish gunmen should be the best in the game