How to Install a Frost-Proof Faucet with PEX Piping | This Old House
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2014
- This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey shows how to plumb a new hose faucet using flexible plastic water pipe. (See below for a shopping list and tools.)
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Shopping List For Installing a Frost-Proof Faucet with PEX Piping:
- frost-proof sill cock
- PEX piping and assorted fittings
- teflon tape
- silicone sealant
- 1 5/8-inch stainless screws
- copper pipe and assorted fittings
- lead-free solder and flux
- 1-inch PEX clips
Tools For Installing a Frost-Proof Faucet with PEX Piping:
- drill/driver fitted with 1-inch bit
- pliers
- PEX cutter
- PEX expansion tool, used to connect fittings to PEX piping
- caulk gun
- propane torch
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Perfect application for Pex.
Idiotic application for pex when it was a standard plumbing setup using a faucet meant for copper pipe and connecting inside to copper pipe anyway, and needing the expensive tool, and all in all, a senseless way to do it.
this is a good video & under-rated. Thank you
Under-rated by whom? Where do I cast my rate vote?
I would have used a ball shut off inside and blue pex angle the sillcock downward and foamed the hole not siliconed just the top of the hole … Foam all exterior extrusions to keep air and pest out
Blue PEX because it's cold water. Red means "hot".
To keep water out of the wall do these:
1) Angle the outside pipe downward to direct rain water away from the wall
2) Silicone the actual fitting-to-wall surface
3) Foam the hole
Where would you add a ball valve? Just inside the wall? Something other than the one near where they soldered? Why? Two valves?
Thanks for your help. I know it's been 2 years.
Cool tools
They make it look so EZ
I would have placed the sillcock further away from the window if possible. Just in case it leaks at the hose connection and puddles right neck to the window.
great point!
Yeah, asking a lot of a foundation when you regularly flood it. As long as you're talking about doing it right, I would put a well on any window that close to grade, would slope the soil next to the house so it flows away from the house, and would put a splash block under the sillcock/faucet/hose bibb instead of saturating the soil at my foundation.
I'm not a constructor, not even a HOME owner, but I'm dying to work with some pex tubbing.
Leif Harmsen ive been looking for a new pair of pex bondage cuffs for my sexual adventures
Keep in mind that your pressure will drop a bit if going from copper to PEX.
We're going to have to agree to disagree Steven. I changed out my 1/2" copper system to 1/2" PEX with manifold and there was a noticeable drop in flow rate out of the taps in the house.
I'm glad to see you are capable of having a civil conversation.
FlightSergeantRose I’ve done my fair bit of research into static and dynamic pressure in university and pressure won’t reduce or change at all because of the material of the tubes/pipes that carry water. As Steven said that’s controlled by the city.
"PEX does not like to be soldered."
I learned something new today. 🤣
it keeps running away when i try it
@@galehess6676 You need more flux.
True genius
That tool is a Sioux Chief F2080 combitool with Sioux Chief 2080 fittings. Most PEXa is F1960 and available by mail order from the supply houses. Big box sells F1807 crimp which is very similar to F2080 but less flow diameter and way cheaper. F1960 is larger flow but only one ridge in the fitting. Sex A is expansion do not use big box in store per for expansion. Only for crimping. Big box does offer online Pex a expansion and F1960 fittings but better off with supply house or pexuniverse for those. Richard used the 2080 tool in a later video at Home Depot which is deceiving since Home Depot does not sell any F2080 gear, nor do the online retail supply houses.
Please read correctly. 5th sentence should start as "Pex- A" (not= Sex A) is a expansion tube
I looked up the Sioux Chief the one he uses to expand the pex I am looking into what the name of that tool is? I have see other's however not the one he uses has red handle and lime green button with the tightener on the bottom of the handle?
@@rebeccagleason2678 that is a Rehau PEXa system.
I can’t find anything like it :(
Your channel is amazing. Thank you so much.
Aweta Noah these are clips of a tv show.
Yeah it's Pex-B and I really do not see much of the Rauh system used anymore. You have the clamps or rings used now on Pex-b.
Reminds me of compression vs crimp connectors for coax
Looks so easy with the proper tools ❤️👍🇺🇸
Yeah sometimes I watch the show just to see the
unusual tools they use.
What is the make and model of the sillcock used in this video? Thanks in advance!
What is that tool your using to expand the pex
2:05 all the caulking just went deep in the hole when he pushed the valve in. Fail.
lmao
not only that but they put the faucet next to a window where all the water will drain into
No your wrong. That chalking is a sealer that will expand kinda like the Foam insulation in can.
The white chalking prevents water going into the house. Thinking of the chalking around your bathroom tube when you take a shower.
Unless you bath in a lake. haha
Personally Im going to believe the video then some random kid on youtube but call me crazy
Didn't put the caulking completely around the hole & on the faucet mounting flange...👎
On that tool to expand the PEX pipe you have to turn it 6-3 position or it will leak the PEX pipe the electric one does it automatically
This Old House Richard, In several videos, you have shown the instalation of Rehau PEXa, which has very nice fittings. Do you have any experience with Uponor (Wirsboro) fittings, or any issues with them?
I am partial to PEXa expander style fittings as to avoid the smaller internal diameter crimp-on PEXb/PEXc style fittings which restrict water flow.
What size drill bit so the pipe fits into the house?
Are the different sized sill clocks or is it standard?
Does Tommy know you have his drill?
I enjoyed it 🤩😎
What’s the name of the tool you used to expand the end of the pex pipe?
It's a pex expansion tool, but for the life of me I can't find one that has the 2nd part that allows you to attach the ring clamp.
After more research, I think this is an old video maybe. He's expanding Pex-B and then adding a metal crimp ring which pex-b requires. If you use Pex-A, which is newer, the crimp rings are themselves a certain type of pex. You expand both the end of the pex-a PLUS the pex-a crimp ring and then just let them both relax back onto the fitting.
@@roberte.6892that is a Rehau PEXa system.
the shut off valve in the house, is that a secondary precaution if the outside valve's non-freeze tap does not work 100% in the winter?
You'd want to have a stop valve with drain on that outside water line, so in cold weather you turn off the water to the sill cock, then you open the drain to remove any leftover water. That way there's no water to freeze in the sill cock no matter what.
this PEX connection reminds me how ancient that fitting style was..
What’s that called? Looks solid. I definitely believe it’ll never come off
What size hole did you drill in house?
When you have to replace that frostless do you have to hold it from the inside of the house? Or can you twist from the out side only? I have to replace mine and don’t want to have to open the wall on the inside to hold the nut if not needed
It depends how the frostless was tied into the supply line. Do you have copper lines. If so, the frostless may have been soldered and you will need a torch to unsolder it. You can also cut the supply line going to the frostless. Then remove the frostless outward, away from the house. You can then slide a new frostless back in and tie back into the supply line. Checkout Sharkbite fittings on YT. If you solder a short piece of copper to the end of the new frostless you can tie it to the supply line weather copper or pex using a Sharkbite union without any soldering. And it doesn't matter if the supply line is dry or wet. Sharbite works with both.
What about crimp pex rings? No shutoff?
I'm going to add another outside water line in the front of the house
when I find someone who can do the same caliber work.
WRZ
Delaware County, PA
Are all Silcocks frost free???
What is tne name of that PEX tool and where can I purchase one?
Shouldn't he be using blue PEX instead of red? (Blue for cold, red for hot)
Sean Place i mean it goes outside so you should know its cold water 😂😂
Sean Place I
The colour is only for convinience, here in Germany they're all white, no different colours. But I've noticed a big difference. Here you're getting a compound material with several layers. Inside is PE-X, then a bonding agent, a layer of aluminium again a bonding agent and then a layer of PE. In the video this is the PE-X tubing only.
Cuz Germans know how to make things.
Brian Djordjevic I hope you never become an electrician. “It goes to an unearthed powerpoint so you should know that that earth wire is used as live wire 😂😂”
I wish I was screwing into wood I had to screw into artificial brick an it cracked when removed the old faucet so I had to motar it all back together big mess an took forever
Is it common to use the red pex for outdoor faucets because I did the same thing
That particular faucet is ju k. Internal parts are aluminum and wont last long. Have had to replace 3 in past year
What is the exact name and size of the brass fitting that connects the hose to the red tube - please be specific- the video says “various fittings” that doesn’t help - thanks
Very cool process. Do you feel pex is better then PVC?
Haven’t had any pex freeze yet. Pvc yes
Do you cut the water line before it gets to the the water heater or after ?
If you cut it after the water heater, the faucet would be delivering hot water.
I’m curious isn’t there pex tubbing that’s blue for cold water and red for hot? With that being asked does it matter which u use if we’re ignoring the color?
helps to see visually, if a line is one or the other, could run all red/ blue if you hate plumbers haha or don't want to buy two rolls if you only need a shorter amount
Exactly/ blue - Cold 🥶
Red - Hot 😡
That’s How I would Do it & use Crimp Clamps !!!!!! Or Brass !!!
What is that tool I want one !
Why not buy a frost free faucet made for pex rather than buying the wrong one and having to add a pex adapter?
Some stores (including some Home Depots) don't stock pex-specific faucets or only have one choice of length. Much easier for them to just sell you an extra part. In low population areas you may only have one choice of store, so you buy what's available. If the choice is available though, yes, buy the pex one.
TicoTimeCR have you heard of this new invention called the internet? Apparently, you can order stuff and as if by magic it is delivered to your home.
@@GrahamDIY That's crazy talk, LOL
@@Bigguy_33 Umm, don't get started with faster or cheaper when all this repair needed was soldering a faucet to a copper pipe, no pex or adapters or teflon tape or pex expansion tool, just standard pipe available for purchase anywhere, a torch available anywhere, and solder available anywhere, anywhere meaning any hardware store and some non-hardware stores. Well, you may need sandpaper or a brush or steel wool. If you don't already have those things then you probably aren't handy enough to do this either.
@@GrahamDIY wow, aren't you a douche? That was actually a rhetoric statement. Has it ever occurred to you in that limited brain of yours that A) not everyone shops online, B) some people need something that specific hour, C) some people actually like supporting local businesses vs e-commerce, and D) you're still a d-bag.
I’m not comfortable with that amount of calking. I woulda put more
It’s not your house, so it doesn’t really matter what you’re comfortable with.
#fail. It comes in a full tube for a full reason. If you don't use the entire tube it will leak in less than a month.
I’m not comfortable with your comment 🤣
PEX is very UV sensitive, It should never be exposed to sunlight and some parts of the pipe are exposed close to a window...
Dicofole UV doesn't penetrate glass. It was all inside
PEX is UV sensitive. It cannot be exposed to direct sunlight, as it breaks down rather quickly. Indirect ambient sunlight degrades PEX at a rate about 8 times slower. PEX is ideal for in-wall plumbing. When it is used say in an unfinished basement, the pipe needs to be painted or covered in an ABS corrugated shroud. When installed properly by someone who knows what they are doing, PEX is amazing stuff.
Where do you get that tool
Rich, I have never seen a pex manual expander tool like that, with those ss sleeves.....is that something new?.....What Brand of pex, or?
is that?......I have a battery powered Milwaukee brand expander tool, I use with the Aqua Pro Pex Pipe, with the engineered plastic fittings....this system, also has the different sizes of pro pex sleeves, with a stop collar, that slides on, prior to expanding the pex piping, and then inserting the fitting etc......Thanks, Tim.
Timmy Gee www.arisupply.com/advancedwebpage.aspx?cg=169&cd=4
that is a Rehau PEXa system.
This video never mentioned the proper (downward) angle to install the faucet so that all the water drains out properly when closed.
I believe the frost-free faucet had the angled spacer mounted between the flange and the siding.
That the point frost-free faucet angle should be double checked to make sure it drains when its turned off. They didnt talk about testing it for leaks too.
I agree. I was surprised that he didn't mention the necessary angle. It even freezes in Florida, sometimes.
By these comments here, i can tell none of you know anything about plumbing. The piping is installed in his basement. The temp in that basement will not drop below freezing point. Then comes the 12” long “frost free” hose spigot. Guess what, that turns the water off inside the house about 2” where the pex connections were made! NOT gonna freeze boys! Stop with the pitch nonsense and letting water run out! Last but not least, did u see the expansion process? Guess what... if it did freeze(which once again, it will not) the pipe EXPANDS!! It has a superior burst rating between 500-1000 pounds!!! Stop posting false comments 🤦♂️
@@neilhansen3025 ok. Obviously I know nothing about plumbing. That is why I was watching the video. Also. I live in Minnesota. I had a frost proof faucet freeze on a house I bought about 10 years ago. North side of the house. Low temp was 27 below and we didn't get above 0 for 3 weeks. The plumber who fixed this for me told me the faucet should have been angled down. Good luck being the smartest dude around.
he used red pex on cold water
red=hot blue=cold
I love how he says wrenches but clearly those are channel lock pliers
Would you recommend shark bite frost proof silcock? Seems easy to do and no soldering
I don't trust shark bite for any permanent plumbing jobs. It's great for temp stuff or emergency repairs but they are just exposed single o-rings with mechanical teeth preventing slippage. They will fail before any properly installed fitting will fail and they are expensive as well. I would recommend Pex-a expansion fittings and Rehau fittings like what are in this video are very good. The tool is expensive though. Crimp or clamp would be my second recommendation but you do have to size up to keep the same flow. Best system for lowest cost would be pex-b clamp system with poly fittings. Cheapest pipe, cheapest fittings, cheapest tool, easy to do and reliable for permanent installations. You can even use the 90 degree hose benders too.
yeah they are more expensive but definitely easy to use for a homeowner. just make sure the ends of the pipe are nice and square or the sharkbites will leak over time.
@@RoastBeefSandwich I’ll keep checking. No leaks after almost a year. I’ll leave for now. I’m sure it be slow if it does happen. These are awesome compression
@@appleztooranges yep I have some in my laundry room. I left the wall open for a year just to see if it would leak, never did, closed it up.
Aquor is nicer and for shark bite. I have had a copper pipe capped with a shark bite cap since June of 2015. No leaks.
I like how quick and dirty the video is but you should tell us what the specialized tools are called and how much they cost. The expansion tools im finding are >500$ Canadian. Might as well hire a professional for that.
How do you remove a soldered PEX one already installed?
You cut it off.
Pex is the new polybutylene .
What you use if don't have 1 expanding gun to open PEX up?
trying few secs with some hair dryer to make it more expandable
@@ladd91 I ended up using SharkBite worked out good .
You know from listening to plumbers that have been doing this as a profession for many years they didn't tell you how to prevent busting another sillcock by installing it with the sillcock leaning downward to allow the water to travel back out of the sillcock when the water freezes so that it will not expand from freezing inside the pipe and split the pipe ruining your sillcock and forcing you to replace it! Come guys we're getting sloppy here!
6 years ago you posted this tip. 6 years later I'm using it
What was the name of the expandable tool used? I see it has red handles and lime green button. What is the cost?
Rebecca Gleason 1400
that is a Rehau PEXa system. They're very 'cliquey' and won't sell to just anyone.
But how many people have put the collar on backwards and found after they did it?
Since there's no forcing cone on the other end of the sleeve, it'll probably just sheer the pipe when you try to force it on and not work. But I've never used it so I don't know.
That's his point, Ike. It should have been mentioned in the video.
were can i buy the tool at no one has it
It seems to be the EverLoc tool - I can only find info on the Battery powered tool: www.rehau.com/us-en/mechanical-and-plumbing/everloc-plus/single-family-residential/product-details There is a distributor locator on the site.
why would you be running red pex tubing to a cold water sillcock? Color code identification is why it is colored
I know your comment is older but most PEx tubing is now clear... so what do you have to say for that? Do you smear it with a colored Sharpie so you can remember what is what? LMAO
Isn't red used for the hot side??
red tubing is supposed represent "hot water"
There is no way, I'm getting under the house, no telling what's under there!!!!! However, your demo was awesome, I'm just not hold enough to do that.
What is the name of the tool that expanded this pex B pipe and then pulled the collar over the fitting? I cannot find that...
this is pex A pipe I believe and I don't see this method being used anymore. Wirsbo is the new and improved way of connecting pex A pipe. expansion is still used but in a different way.
@@LumenChaser that is a Rehau PEXa system.
Why wouldn't you just buy a sillcock with pex end? Eliminates a connection and makes it simpler.
Is it safe to use plastic instead of copper, I have seen plastic water lines on new small homes but how long do they last?
As long as the lines are used where they are not exposed to sun, do not freeze or become damaged they last forever... at a fraction of the cost of copper. Also, plastic will flex some if there is severe settling in a house or an earthquake... copper will not.
yes it's super plastic
PEX lasts 100 year or longer. Copper pipe 70-80 years max.
@@donnbialik9085 that’s what I’m talking about i’ll be Dead if I have to replace it again👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
what is that tool he used for the pex?
I think its an expander tool for Wirsbo PEX.
i like to buy want anybody know the name
Its called the Rehau system
that is a Rehau PEXa system.
He said it will never leak. Yeah and dinosaurs can't reproduce at Jurassic Park either.🐱🐉
where can I find the blue and red clamps ??
heavenlyskys1 anyone ?? lol
I'm sure lowes or home depot have something similar
I wonder if this has failed at all. Didn't slope the sillcock and those PEX connections were never in my local market, I wonder if they went out of business.
When it comes to water and pressure I have trust issues... Nice video though...
Watch some of the PEX A & B water pressure tests. These things go to almost 1000psi. The only way PEX-A fails is if the fitting is defective or the pipe is expanded improperly. I felt the same way before doing the research. Only thing I still don't like is having to install a black ABS plastic sleeve around PEX-A that is exposed to UV light.
How in the hell did the water come out the new hose bib so fast? No air first. No gurgles or burps at all? Is pex magic? Are you magic?
That's easy: They've opened it before. Something could have gone wrong during the 1st take, so they recorded it again. This could be like someone of the staff sneezed, the microphone boom was in the picture or something like that. Such things are happening on every movie set.
Turned it on and the end blew off😂
I much prefer the simple crimp ring to that setup. I am sure that method is even less likely to leak (but I am sure it costs more), but I have yet to see any crimp ring leak...so yeah.
vlogerhood - Copper crimp rings or the stainless pinch clamps? A pinch clamp leaked on the PEX in my old house's bathroom two years ago...ruined the drywall. Granted the installation job (probably 10 years old) was probably to blame, because it was a very short run between two brass manifolds under a lot of awkward side tension. My new house uses all the plastic expansion rings on the PEX. That scares me even more than the pinch clamps...
I have those white expansion tubes I think you're talking about. I've had them for 5 years my neighbor has them for 10.
I had a fitting shoot off the crimp ring before because the guy had way too much water pressure going into the house. The thing shot right off, caused a ton of water damage. That's why you don't mess with water pressure. I like the ring and crimp method myself, never had any issues aside from that one time which wasn't the fault of the ring anyway. I like the expander/sleeve method too but that's a big friggin' tool to be lugging around. How the hell are you supposed to get that under tight vanities to get valves on? There's no way, but for a job like this though where you have a lot of space to work in, I think it's great. Plus, it maintains the inside diameter of the pex whereas the crimp/rings reduce the diameter. Not that it makes a significant difference but if you want max pressure, the expander/sleeve might be the way to go.
Cup & Cone how are the plastic expansion fittings holding up on your PEX piping? Do you still worry about them leaking?
@@trainofthough0242 stainless Rings For Outdoor !!!!
I would use shark bite just to avoid buying the pex tool especially if u don't plan on using it for a long while after a project is done.
Wow no air in pipe!
why put it so close to the ground? you need to crouch hard every time you wanna use it -.-
Heh, the ease of placement is dictated by leaving at least a little distance between it and the floor above it... unless you want to make a right angle and tear out some of the interior wall to do that.
Who make that tool??
that is a Rehau PEXa system.
A blind man could do that job. Install that in a double wide!!! 💪
Any idea how I can get me one of those expansion guns
What real plumber uses channellocks on squared fittings?
No Sharkbite connectors 😭😭😭
It doesn't show anything about disassembling the unit.
If it never gonna leak, it will be hard to disassemble in case it is needed!
Jay Lee.
I had this happen. When I tried to remove the faucet from the outside the pex pipe just twisted and caused a leak in the pex inside the wall of the house. Had to shut off the water overnight and cut a hole in the wall at the pex to hydrant connection. Flooded the den and caused carpet damage. The pex to hydrant fitting needs to be anchored so the faucet can be removed without causing the pex to twist and break.
@@mikeellis7412 This is exactly what I am dealing with. The donkeys who built the house did this and now the faucet is leaking so I want to replace it. Obviously you turn the tap and it just spins....
∞ ❤ ly .
It's already been tried before the "king" gets to use it for the "first" time. The ground is wet and there is no air in the lines! And no homeowner is using that tool...they're using the cheapest crimper they can find at HD or god forbid sharkbite...
@Stephen Clark Wow, you're an idiot!!! You have no idea what you are talking about. PEX is VERY good pipe, and NO, it is not at all like black poly tubing. Totally different materials. Your water supplier has NOT "banned all plastics", first of all the water department doesn't make codes, secondly, plastic is used in absolutely everything. Galvanized is no longer in use, iron is not ever used in a house. Copper can still be used although it is extremely rare in new installs due to cost and the fact that PEX is so much better. Almost every water line underground installed today is either PEX, PVC, or PE. (black poly) They all work great, and none of them are "banned". Nobody installs metal water lines.
well, mr Know-NOTHING, that is NOT home depot product. that is a Rehau PEXa system and is a very secure system. You just proved how ignorant you are. Thanks for telling the world.
I have been making additions and replacement lines using PEX. However, instead of soldering new connections to copper pipe to connect to the PEX, I have been using Shark Bite connections. They can connect same size copper to PEX or PEX to PEX. I have been using these for several years now and I have had no issues with leaks or loose connections.
I wouldn't recommend sharkbites as I have seen way to many that were properly installed leak. You're best off sweating on a pex adapter.
Red pex for spigot 🤦♂️🤦♂️
I have not seen in any plumbing video or store, that kind of pex tool. I would not trust that fitting at all. Just got a normal sleeve and a crimp tool, expanding and then punching is not something I've seen anywhere.
Also the caulk on the outside faucet was useless and did nothing. Should have caulked on the plate itself and then again on the inside.
that is a secure fitting and that is a Rehau PEXa system.
come on,,,,must of us regular guys don't have those kind of tools!!!!!
They sell different pex crimping tools that are much cheaper
Buy them then. Can’t do the jobs without the proper tools. Why do you think the pros charge you
PEX Fan Boys Rejoice.
That`s after buying that $150.00 tool he is using and the cost of the PEX to replace a $30.00 faucet!
Home Depot rents the tool out for $12/4 hours.
@@pmmichalczuk Thank you for making that comment... That's exactly what I needed to know.
He said cocking.
Should use the proper wrenches, not channel locks. Blue pex and a shut-off.
Why,,the wrench didn't slip
Shark bite
Great if you have the expensive tools. Not so great if you are only doing your own house.
if you are not very critical about somewhat less water and more about saving a lot of money go with crimp toll and rings
Home Depot rents the tool out for $12/4 hours.
Nothing is frost-proof..
I had a home where the "frost proof" faucet froze and busted above a concrete slab. The entire house flooded, I have numerous rental houses without "frost proof" and I have never had a problem. I live in North Alabama, so we do not have the extreme cold like y'all have up North.
Not a very workmanlike job. Pex stapled to the bottom of joists, run diagonal. Yeah, just put in what you need and screw the next guy.
+jollyandwaylo nice to know you are so perfect
+Bill Newell I do try to take into account the next guy that has to do something, Don't you?
I was thinking the same thing. Good luck to the guy that wants to finish the basement.
Because this wasn’t Tom Silva. He is a class act.
Did yall see how big that house was? They will never finish the basement. CHILL
Those are pliers, not wrenches, and the wrong tool for the job
2024-02-06 1.1 million views. I just watched this 4:16 video.
I wish I knew about this 3-4 years ago when we had to
replace our outdoor spigot.
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How to Replace an Outdoor Faucet with a Frost-Proof Sillcock | This Old House
So low
If I have red left over, or somebody donates, I'm using it.
it appears you are installing as pex-a pipe (since you needed to expand it to side) over a pex-b fitting. Things that make you go hmmmmm.......
You are very incorrect. that is a Rehau PEXa system. And for the record, you CAN use pex-b fittings WITH Pexa systems; just not the other way around.
1st, get an unfinished basement. 2nd install the faucet correctly by spending hundreds of dollars on 'one-time use' specialty tools. Done!
Or get a plumber to come our and good luck with that!!!
Gotta be a better way...
You can rent the tools.
What makes you think a home owner would never used a specialty tool more than once? You're limiting yourself. Pex and plumbing is easy to install if you understand it. Drains and venting is a little more challenging. What are you going to do in the middle of the night if you discover a leak in your basement or crawl space from a burst pipe? Call a plumber? First, good luck getting ahold a ANYBODY at that hour, and Second, GOO LUCK when he/she hands you the repair bill because those would be specialty after hours prices.... so, spend $1,000+ for one visit or buy a $200 tool and learn to use it...... or, according to you, do nothing. Just sit and ponder life's problems. I chose the first option and there is very little I cannot do and if I cannot do it professionally or better THEN I hire it out.
@@malavoy1 Yep, easy peasy and affordable too.
Biggest mistake is no fall . Improper installation
Bullshit I don’t need all those tools