Mini Donut Oven - Is This Your New Business?
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2020
- I test out the State Fair Mini Donut Oven and oh is it so freaking cool! For less than $900 you can have the entire start-up pack. See my entire business plan and profits you can make at minidonutvending.com
This mini donut oven with an automatic conveyor will do over 1200 mini donuts an hour.
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If you freshly made the batter and cooked donuts in a fryer and ate them side by side with a pre-made, pre-cooked and reheated donut, no matter what the oven or how excited you get, you can never compare the two.
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Lil Orbits machines aren't as hard to clean up as you mentioned. My customers love seeing their mini donuts being made fresh right in front of them. They're worth the wait for sure.
Are you currently making a living selling the Lil Orbits donuts? I've been considering buying the State Fair donut machine mentioned in the video because it is SO much less expensive than a Lil Orbits machine. I wonder if I could do just as much business (make as much money) with the State Fair machine as I would the Lil Orbits machine? I'm currently in the process of deciding which I would be better off with, considering the price and everything else (I want to go into business for myself, by the way). I very much would like to hear your personal opinion about the Lil Orbits donut business and any opinion you may have about the comparisons between the Lil Orbits donut business and the State Fair donut business.
100%, we run a Lil Orbits SS1200 and it's hands down superior to the State Fair set up.
I'm glad I found you , thanks for the informative video.
You got me convinced after watching that donut vendor the other day. I think I finally know what I want to do when I grow up. I didn't want to do the hot oil and clean up but after watching the other day I am excited for 825.00 you get the oven and and enough stuff to get you going, I checked it out a couple days ago. Thanks Ben.
You can do it!
Love it. Great demonstration.
Lou
You are the best! Thanks for helping people help themselves.
Happy to help!
Great information, always! 👍
Thanks Dex!
Just purchased the other day. Can't wait.
Are you still selling State Fair donuts? If you are still selling them, then do you put the donuts in a freezer until you are ready to make & sell them? Or do you always begin selling them within 2 or 3 days of receiving them from the company? (and that means you won't have to worry about putting them in a freezer)
Have you tried heating the Donuts on a cart griddle? We don't have access to electricity nor can we use a generator where we are. BTW, we have a cater pro on order.
Merry Christmas Ben n family
I used the same toaster back when I worked in a restaurant in the 80’s
what would be the likely commissary requirements for running just this setup?
What is a case if mini donut come in ? The little white box? Or what do the case look like? Please
That thing is awesome. Thank you Ben
Any time!
oven is very durable and easy to clean
Where u getting frozen doughnuts from ? Please explain a little about this
Excellent teaching. I live in NC and would like to set up in front of dollar general, do I need special permits...Thanking you in advance, Lou
You're in luck, I teach all this at learnhotdogs.com/start (same steps apply). 1. call hd and ask, call city/county business license office
What a wonderful video to wake up to! I need a new gig. Mobile detailing has been hard on the body over the years, not to mention a much smaller profit margin than mini donuts. I had this thought when I woke up and was actually looking for the deep fry system as I didn't know the conveyor oven existed. Found the State Fair video first and then yours, which was like finding a diamond in the rough.
I might buy a used ice cream truck that has a freezer with 110 AC outlet in it and just drive around like the ice cream trucks do. No need to pay rent for a fixed location.
Just subscribed to your channel, too!
Freddie
don't do it
@@johninadl I would also sell prepackaged cakes, cookies, Danishes, jelly rolls etc from the truck.
Wow! Love it. ❤
What is the size of the box of donuts? And is that white box the full case or are there a few of them like that in a bigger box? Thanks so much!!!
Six boxes of 70 donuts per case. I calculated profit at $98 per case.
I would make my own cinnamon sugar and buy plain bags wholesale. I would also contact a local wholesale food supplier like Gordon Foods to buy the mini donuts for far less. 🙂
I have a question for any of the State Fair donut machine owners here that sell at events (or anywhere). When you order the cases of donuts, do you put them in a freezer? OR, do you not have room in your freezer and just keep them sitting out until you are able to get them to an event before the donuts go stale? If you DO have a freezer, is it big enough to hold up to 4 cases?
Neat idea, but IMO, you're swapping fresh made quality for the portability! Yeah, you have to wait for the oil to cool before you move the truck or decant from the frier for cleaning, but now you need all of this (refrigerated?) storage area to stash your stock of par made donuts! For the volume of one of those boxes, you could probably make 4 times the number of donuts if you used the frier.
For some folks and applications, this may be perfect... just not my first choice.
Hey bud, have you had any experience warming them up at home and then packaging them for resell? I wasn't sure how it effects the taste.
I haven't but other vendors say works great. I did have a vendor mail me some before I got my machine and it was perfect.
Can I heat up individual pizzas or anything else with this heater????
Where can I order one of these for $900-? The price has doubled
just received the business kit yesterday because of this video. I have all 4 flavors of sugar. No dishes to wash if you use gloves. The donuts are very good hot. They did not taste greasy. This is just a start. I will be adding icing and toppings in the future. The cleanup is a breeze. The toaster oven is very well made and sturdy.
That is awesome!
I've been trying to find someone to see if this is a profitable business and these machine actually works can you give an update on how your business is going I've watched Ben videos on it there's not much on UA-cam about these machines and no real videos I can find of anyone running a business using these machines actual video so just wondering how it is doing for you
@@mgs_beckett2263 I will be starting in February. I have tested all the products. i love all 4 flavors of sugar. Donuts are delicious. Easy to make. I recommend.
@@darrellroath654 sweet and thank you for the response I'm looking more into it and very interested it seems fairly inexpensive to get started for business so I'm interested in something like this good luck on your adventure may you be extremely profitable
@@mgs_beckett2263 thanks and good luck
Really good video Ben. How many amps is the donut oven? I'll be using a generator. Thank you.
13.3 amps
I have been considering buying this machine and going into business (going to fairs and other events to sell the donuts). However, my big concern is having room to put them in a freezer. They said the donuts only have a shelf life of 7 days and the clock begins ticking from the day they put it in the truck to ship out. From what I understand, it takes about 3 days for them to ship the donuts to a customer. That leaves about 4 days for us to sell the donuts (even less if it takes more than 3 days to receive the donuts). That will be cutting it close for people to get the donuts and secure a location at a fair (or wherever) to sell the donuts. I don't know how people are able do this business on a consistent basis without a big freezer to store all the donuts. Are you selling the donuts at events? Do you think people who try to sell these donuts at events would need a freezer (I assume a BIG one to hold at least 4 cases) to hold the donuts until the time comes for the event? Or am I overstating the need for a freezer?
How did using a generator work out for you? I don't know much about generators, but I am assuming they are loud. Has the noise been an issue with you when taking the generator with you to sell donuts at events?
Where can I put this on my food trailer if I don't have room
Without pulling the tray during high production will they hold up to scooping them out hot to a separate tray? Thanks for taking us along and any answers.
Yes, absolutely. I tested more and with many running, you can't pull tray out because then others would only fall to bottom and not in tray. I used a super wide spatula and that worked great.
I use a French fry bag loader...lile they use at fast food places....its wide the tapers to a funnel shape to pour them in the bag.
@@shrconstruction Perfect plan!
@@BensCarts tongs are too slow....and those suckers when done right are freakin hot....got tired of burning my finger tips...lol...
@@shrconstruction to catch them underneat? Steve it sounds like your well versed in this donut setup, I'm just curious, what are the odd of getting some info on your set up. Donuts done really work with my menu but I sure am curious
Ben could you show us a couple of people vending during covid. I would like to see what they do as far as masks shields and gloves. Nothing elaborate just a quicky will do. Thanks.
Happens every week inside VU page as vendors post up their own videos.
Try Torani sauces..
So I'm wondering if you could actually have dipping sauces with the donuts. Maybe don't even put the sugar cinnamon on them. I wonder if there's a place that has like a chocolate little container that you can dip them in. Maybe a vanilla cream or butter Scott or whatever flavors.
I've seen them served in nacho trays with dipping sauces, or in a 2# boat with a pc cup of sauce. I've seen them pre-dipped in maple glaze with bacon, or other flavors.
@@maryjomccallister9102 very cool. Great ideas
Hard to explain but they do have a weirdish taste plain....not like a normal plain donut imo. So toppings of any kind are a good idea....treat them like any other donut as far as any toppings you like.
Absolutely, however the dip would have to be super smooth. Most are serving with toppings poured over them. One vendor does it in a bucket and pours in whatever the customer wants over top the donuts.
love the video ben
Thank you Oso!
Do they have that crisp of the fryer
Yes, depending on the speed you run the conveyor. My wife likes that crisp so I tried a slower speed and she loved it.
Hey Ben, did you ever get the chance to interview the guy from texas that was busting it with mini donutsI believe his name was Lewis it wasn't Bob, I watched that one don't remember which video you mentioned it in I've only watched 256, 0003 of your videos LOLI a sked if you were going to interview him and you replied "coming soon!" just wondering if uou ever got the chance and I missed it
Yea, every Monday he comes on the VU Mastermind and shares with us all.
@@BensCarts how do I listen to the VU Mastermind?
Awesome all in one solution. Although with respect a freshly deep fried hot donut ,( not them piddly little dinky ones) ,in sugar 😋 unbeatable
Sounds great!
Big donut chains now sell flash frozen and not fresh, yet people still flock to those donut shops.
As your cutting open the box donuts, Johnny Cash ring of fire starts playing in the background. Timed perfectly! What is the difference between this mini donut oven and a conveyor toaster? They look exactly the same with specs and all. Obviously conveyor toasters are much cheaper in cost. $300-$400 range compared to $725. Could a conveyor toasters work instead? Our local food distributor is selling cases of 440 frozen mini donuts for $40 (That 0.09 a donut) about $3.80 profit per dozen at $5 is not bad
Just paying for branding on the oven ofcourse, regular conveyor would work fine once you got it timed. I'm curious if the mini donuts you could get are the same brand
I thought about that too, I'm not sure on the toaster oven types. I have seen some of those and wondered the same. Do you know what brand those other donuts are? I'll order some and do a taste test and shelf life test.
It has to be a convention oven and that sucker gets up over 800degrees.....so cheaper ones may not work. But the Star and State Fair donut ovens are made by QCS and you can get the same one from Webstruant right now on sale for $513....says more but the price is lowered once in the cart....thank me latter....lol...
@@BensCarts I do not know anything about them, they are sold at Gordon Food Service. I never tried the mini donuts. I have gotten their individually wrapped full size donuts before. They taste like a normal plain donuts.
@@shrconstruction That where is I was pricing them from
Are they cake donuts or yeast donuts?
Cake
Which is easier ? Pennsylvania or Florida ? For license ECT?
Depends on how you are going to run it and which county etc... For more info see minidonutvending.com because some are vending and some are selling from home. But my info will show you how to find out what your state will allow.
@@BensCarts thanks for the fast reply. I live in Pennsylvania but going to be in Florida Valusia county. I am 63 retired living on $900 month.
I take my garbage to the store dumpster and lights off no tv no cable. It's old.
@@saulreyes2976 Check out the cottage food law you can bake at home and sell directly to costumers i live in Philadelphia the health department said i need a food trailer or truck and like three different licenseing
@@luzreyes1251 ouch lol
in philly i don’t think it true that you need several different licenses i would double check that
Would you have to have fire suppression with this oven??
No. Think of Subway and their bread dough proofer and oven.
how good can they be? reheating anything is not the same as actually making them fresh.
True... it's why I grow my own wheat, harvest it, grind it (same with all other ingredients) and then create my own vegetable oil and then make fresh donuts.... it's the only way.
LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😉
The public will buy them anyways. Most donut chains serve up flash frozen donuts. We used them in the camp kitchen I worked in. They were gobbled up by the workers who were staying in the camp.
Pull the bottom tray out all the way to catch them when they drop.
You mean you leave it out completely Stever?
@@BensCarts yep
@@shrconstruction and then get them in the bag how? curious
@@Kevin-zo6nz I use a French fry scoop....like they use at fast food places for the fries😉
Basically it's just reheating the donuts?
Yes.
@BensCarts why not make the Donuts at home yourself and then heat em up later with a toaster belt?. No need to purchase the ready made Donuts where you will have wastage and extra costs than using ready made Donut batter.
looks like we've come full circus again. lol circle , circus. I just obtained a mini donut robot. belshaw mark2 I still enjoy your videos even though it's been a while since I've seen ya. thanks for the videos. maybe you can consult me on a food truck?
Jason Brown in our VU group helps many with food trucks. vendorsunited.com
You can get a conveyor toaster for $200 and just buy these pre made donuts if want lower start up. But no way do these reheated donuts compare to fresh fried donuts.
Big donut chains now sell flash frozen and not fresh, yet people still flock to those donut shops.
It’s $1400 now for the kit.
Another two points to consider:
1) Preparing and making your own batter from a bag of dry donut mix will be significantly cheaper than buying a box of pre-made donuts that you just reheat.
Mixing the batter takes 2 minutes and doubles your profits or more.
2) A donut machine can continuously pump out donuts into a roto-cooler full of sugar or cinnamon sugar.
This oven’s tray only holds a small amount of donuts, so if you are cooking them continually you’ll have to either turn it off to empty the tray or load up the maximum amount and then stop production to empty the tray.
I think there are many readers why donut robots are so popular and no one ever sees these ovens that just reheat pre-made and posted donuts.
I think it’s a better money-maker for the supplier than the vendor.
Thank you Brad! Great points. :)
So what's the cost? It says less than $900 for the startup... what's the case of donuts cost or the bags or the cinnamon sugar or whatever other topping... How many do you get of each. Oh don't forget you got operating cost... What's the profit going to be? Of course that's going to matter I realized on your area and what you can sell them for... but I would like to know the cost then I can do the math, of if I could sell what others have in my area and for how much...
I break all that down at minidonutvending.com
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@@BensCarts 10-4 big dawg
I dont know... I mean you could just use a normal oven for a third of the price ...
Also i can't imagine that tbese premade donuts can compete at all with fresh baked ones..
And you want people to come back if you only selling one product .
Im not convinced at all .
In regards to premade donuts vs fresh baked ones, big donut chains now sell flash frozen and not fresh. Yet people still flock to those donut shops. From what I've read, the State Fair oven does 1200 per hour. The donuts take 30-40 seconds to warm up whatever amount of donuts that can fit in the oven. If you try to go out and find a cheaper oven, you would have to somehow find an oven that does the same amount with the same speed as this oven. Because, if you don't, then people could be waiting longer than they should to get their donuts. And if there is a lot of business happening, then long lines will form with people having to wait.
I got 2 donut trailers and never thought once about that machine its it garbage they come out cold and they already look like squashed crap! It u wana be lazy this will be the option 4 you!
The cleanup is a nightmare with grease.
Have you had experience making donuts with grease? I've been in the process of trying to decide between the State Fair machine and the Lil Orbits machine. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. One of the disadvantages with the Lil Orbits machine is the oil cleanup. I'm just wondering if you have a had a donut machine that uses oil and had experience with the cleanup.
I seriously doubt if that little machine can do 1/4 of that.
1200 per hour is just 20 per minute. Baking cycle for a row of 4 is 40 seconds.
77.70 per case. 35 dozen times 5 per sale is 175 bucks. About 98 bucks gross? I’m sticking with lemonade....
Some have found cheaper suppliers. Down to .7¢ per donut
@@BensCarts WOW! @.7 cents! Where?
donut profit ok. But add coffee, sodas, pastries ,etc. Then think Gourmet donuts.
@@lanfordmims5080 Probably from a supplier like Gordon Food Service.
That's a commercial toaster
I ain't goin to lie I'm bout to kill dem wit dis machine milliondollar machine 👀😎
I’d rather buy the professional mini donut maker that uses oil so I don’t have to depend on someone else for my donuts, you’re soL if they discontinue selling pre made donuts for you to reheat
We purchased the State Fair sample box, gotta say it was pretty disappointing on all counts. 50% of the donuts were damaged upon arrival, that alone is enough to say stay away from this system, plus they clearly use an inferior oil to fry, it's just bad in every way.
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The profit is far to small
The profit margin for selling these donuts is 61%. The profit margin for Lil Orbits donuts is 95%. Yes, Lil Orbits make more money. HOWEVER, their machines are MUCH higher in price, and their machines deal with oil (HOT oil), and is a headache to clean the machine. The machine runs automatically, but you still have to tend to them and sometimes flip over the donuts that don't turn over in the oil like they are supposed to. And in certain conditions the donuts do not form correctly, due to conditions such as cold weather, etc, and you have to adjust to correct the issue. The State Fair donuts do not have ANY of these issues. To me, it would be worth the smaller profit margin to avoid those issues. But I say that a negative with State Fair is that you need to sell (or eat) the donuts within 2-3 days - 4 at the most - of receiving them. They have a 6-7 day shelf life and the clock begins ticking the day it is shipped. That is, UNLESS you have a freezer to hold all the donuts in. Then they could be kept for several months.
I don't have anything to do with making Mini Donut's of any kind. I love to eat Mini Donut's, when I can find them. My biggest complaint is they don't put enough sugar in the bag. I liked it better when they rolled the donut's in a big container of sugar and cinnamon and then put them in the bag, they taste much better. I would never dream of buying waffles from the grocery store and reheating them. I would much prefer the old fashioned way, but that's me. After reheating the Mini Donut's how well does the sugar stick to the donut's? The old fashioned way of doing it, is the sugar sticks to the grease. And are the donut's soft and how long do the stay soft??? It looks like your trying to selling these new ovens and making money from the sales. Of course you are going to make the old way of making donut's unattractive that's obvious in this video. If you can brainwash your customers (general public) to believe that making Mini Donut's this way and they taste better, then you have hit a home run. Most people would not know how you are cooking the donut's unless you tell them. I understand this video is not directed to the general public but to people that are already in the Mini Donut business. Like I said before, I love to eat mini donut's and I would hate to see my Mini Donut's go by the way of the rotary phone, because people don't want to cleanup after making the donut's. Just my two cents on the subject.
Horrible profit margin going about it that way
at 7:17..what the hell????..I was wondering how is this guy going to possibly make donuts with this thing..now I see you are NOT making donuts, you're reheating donuts and selling them as what?..fresh?..like what people expect mini donuts to be..unless you buy a box of white powder mouth dryers at walmart..
Oh hush 🤫 negative Nancy
It’s still GREASY 😅😅😅