How to Fix: Harley Davidson Fuel Line Pin Hole, causes DTC P1353, P1356, P1358
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Tiny correction right away, T25 torx not T20. I made this video trying to be very thorough, showing the replacement of the fuel line attached to the check valve, that produces a pinhole over time, and causes misfires/cylinder shut down, all stemming from this issue. Please let me know if it helped!!! Appreciate the feedback.
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This is the best video yet I found on this fuel pump, from the pinholes rubbed in from vibration from the tank and cutting the line to remove the pump. Most all the other videos I've seen did not address cutting the line or cutting the clamp. Thanks for all the part numbers too!
I really appreciate that feedback man. Grip it and rip it~
Thanks for all the part numbers for my Deuce! Nice video of the process to replace.
Good job on the video, good light and camera work. Very well explained, looking forward to other project videos by you👍🏼👏🏼🙋🏻♂️
You done a fine job with your video keep it up, more people should watch your video so they know how to do it right.
This is very helpful. Many thanks for a good vid!
Managed to get back home without walking yesterday, but it was close.
Very well made to the point video. You got your instructions across loud and clear and accurate . I feel very confident with your instructions how to do this same job on my 2005 Softail Deluxe . Hope you make more maintenance video’s because you certainly have the knack for doing them.
Appreciate that Bob
Great Video. I'm having fuel issues too. like you said, replace everything fuel related. Better to fix all of it now (Pricey), then when you are on the road (Priceless)
Man the pivot was the key to my success and you explained it Blue Collar perfect
i have a 2008 Dyna Super Glide 105th Ann. it just started to leak from the Check Valve, I started to research and came across this video, i will definitely be replacing everything as you stated..... thank you so much for your time to do this video, as it will help me out tremendously... Happy New Year Eve!!
This is a life saver. After removing tank on my 06 fx, I looked at my internal lines. SAME CHAFED LINE AND A PIN HOLE. good stuff, im tripping over to dealer for a new line.
Great Video,, I have the same bike as in the video and just bought it. Your video was instramental in getting the right parts ordered as well as taking care of the problem,, hesitation/stumble and wierd noices coming from the fuel tank! which was the fuel hitting the tank inside.. Thank you very much!!!
Just replaced the lines in the tank along with fuel pump and filters.
Old line had a pin hole.
The throttle response is MUCH improved and taking it out as soon as it thaws out up here.
THANKS AGAIN.
Was looking to see how it look like to change the fuel line because of this code P1356 caming 3 times. HOPEFULLY i found this video !! VERY useful !! many thanks !
Excellent video. sound and video quality was very good. Very informative.
Well done! I believe this is my problem although I don’t have any codes. Probably the best video on this procedure.
Appreciate that Fredi
That’s for such a great video. I’ll be fixing mine in no time. Thanks again.
Appreciate that response Robert.
Thanks for this video brotha, awesome explanation!
thanks, i wish id found your video before i started messing with the check valve, at least i know what i have to do now to resolve my fuel problem.
After working my way through the faults iv decided its the that pump needs replacing
Great job on the video! This is going to help me out a lot. Thanks!
Appreciate that Don.
Great video. Very informative & descriptive. I had a similar problem on my '06 Night Train around '08-'09, but it was the hose that goes from the pump to the filter that got the pin-hole. It was rubbing against something in the tank. When I turned the bike on, but didn't start it, you could hear the fuel pump prime and shut off like normal. Then pssssssssssssssssss as the pressure bled off out through the pin-hole. HD wanted something like $40 for just the hose & $90 for a fuel filter kit that came with the hose etc. So I bought & installed an aftermarket fuel filter kit that came with the hose etc for $30. Around 90k miles on the clock now and it is still running strong, but the fuel filter has been replaced a few times since then.
Hey bro did you have any stalling out when rideing cause of the pinhole in the line I’m haveing a problem with my 07 nightrain think this might be my problem I watch your videos too help me change my back tire thx
I have an 08 electra glide that will need the same procedure. Thank you for the detailed info sir.
great video and a very nice bike thanks for sharing !!!!
Finally someone exsplains this in lamens terms. Ranman
Nice video mate....I have just done this on my 2003 RKC ...but to any one preparing to do this replace your "Fuel Pump Strainer" as well, at 11.08 you see it hanging there on the end of the pump.Just thought i would mention this as I watched all the videos to prepare myself also,cause I didn't know nothing before I started....but no one seems to mention the strainer.and it is just as important as the other parts that need replacing....once again mate ,very informative video.
Mine was super clean, but I do agree my friend. Thanks very much for the feedback!
I liked that you named all the parts. Helps a newbie like me! Thank you sir.
Just started having the issues thanks for a first look. 01 deuce
Well done. Appreciate the detail.
I think I'm chasing the same problem. 04 fatboy. Randomly started running like crap. Lean popping and back firing in the lower end and at cruising speed. Everything ohm checked as it should. I've been chasing my tail for 4 or 5 days now. Intermittent engine light. Off and on so I havent been able to pull.a code. I'll definitely be checking this next. I just had the pump out too so I could check the filter etc. I didn't know this was a problem until today. Thanks for posting this.
Very thorough!!
Good video. well produced and with great info. Good job. I subbed.
Appreciate that!
yup, good info, 04 fxst same issue...gotta do it before I head to the smokies
Excellent video!
I see you are are a good video maker. Very nice bike too. The hose clamp thing Always surprises me though, because hose clamps are always used on pump an filters, but the check valve line never has a clamp. I think I would put on there also.😀
Thanks Man. Good vid!
I have an 04 fxdwgi with a very similar paint set that has the symptoms of hiccups. The problem is getting worse. It would not start one time for me while twenty miles from the the house. Finally got it started and got got home. I put it on the table this afternoon, and will tear into it tomorrow evening. Thanks for the great video. Please keep the motorcycle videos coming!
Did this fix your problem?
Usually you can here the pump whining when the turn signal is on if it has holes
Video very well made & infomercial 👍
Thank you very much Brad
I've been looking at these videos and looking at these videos, and one thing I noticed that they all got in common in these fuel systems, and fuel pumps inside the tank, and it's a reoccurring problem, I see a lot of fix it out there,
But what I'm seeing most reoccur is the gas lines that you get for your fuel pumps and the line going down to the bottom of the tank, the corrugated hoses that you all have or get or that's what they give you look damn cheap! now if you're going to pay top notch for parts and whatnot you think you get some decent hoses with it because those gas lines are not much better than the straws that we used to use when we were kid that go up and go in and out like a accordion, I guarantee you if I have this problem one of these days I probably will I'll find a replacement hose to work better than that and I'll figure out a way to keep it from rubbing one way or another or wrap something around it in a trouble spot but most of all I get rid of them damn cheap gas lines, I measured it was my calipers they're only barely five times thicker than a straw is from McDonald's, and I want my trip to count on something a little bit better than that any ideas? I'm asking the gentleman that made this video because he done such fine job with it,the reason why I'm asking and I I'm actually asking anybody that wants to talk about it, cuz I believe I got some better hoses and what comes with the pump, now I've seen a lot of videos and they're all the same I mean not all the same always the same hoses and when they get pulled out of the tank they're all tan and scraped up well the tan is you know they're starting to get brittle from the gas, or starting to get brittle from the gas, I would say any kind of but then again I'm not a professional, polymer base pose that don't break down from gas that's clear and then can hold 60 lb of pressure would be pretty damn good,
Thank you gentlemen.
ive got a 04 deuce i love it !!!
Great video
Great video thanks. Liked and subscribed
Great helpful video
Great video, nice work. I've got a 2014 Sportster that I believe is suffering from the same pinhole problem. I just can't believe this has been a known issue for a decade or more and Harley hasn't come up with a more robust fuel line or some other prevention. I know "ethanol" and all, but c'mon.
Thanks a lot Jack. Couldn't agree more, this should have been a SAFETY recall. This issue is from chafing of the tube inside the tank. If you look very closely, you'll see on the other ribs of the hose, there are spots of worn away plastic, just not bad enough to create a hole yet.
+Jack Q & @@MidknightMechanics: Its all about how the hose bends inside the tank. It's not easy to snake it in there, as you experienced. So when you pop the fuel pump into position after you snake it into the tank its kind of the luck of the draw as to where the hose between the filter & quick-connect and hose between the pump & filter will bend. You just have to look inside to make sure its not going to rub on anything (including the fuel pump assembly) before buttoning it back up. It's a P.I.T.A., but I'm not sure there is a better way. If there is, I'm all ears. A thicker hose would still rub through eventually. It will just take longer.
Excellent video, very informative, thank you!
Thanks a lot Jeff, appreciate it.
@@MidknightMechanics Yes sir!
Appreciate the insight. My ‘09 Heritage has similar symptoms but, not throwing any codes. Was thinking about opening the tank to check out the fuel pump.
Anytime Rick. It's worth a shot to see if your fuel line has that same worn-off section.
Nice Job,
Great video, thank you sir 🙏
Appreciate that feedback jimbo
very helpful great job....
Ernie thank you very much for the feedback.
nice job....doing mine tomorrow
04 Screaming Eagle Deuce
NICE! Same as mine Greg.
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Great Video. Could this also cause intermittent idling issues? I have a 2015 Dyna Switchback. I have already replaced the IAC, disconnected the tuner, cleaned the ports. All of these seem to resolve the issue for a short time but then it starts again. Thanks
good there thank's...no clamp's on check valve end's then? hard to think , that plastic tube is strong enough for 60 psi?,for injector's, is it worth the effort to put extra protection for abasion holes on supply tube, like ? hav'nt done this yet, cheers
Very helpful thx.
Jim thanks a lot for your feedback.
Great 👍 video thank you SaTx 🤠
I was watching several videos on replacement of the o rings under the tank valve seems it's tricky and the parts to remove are almost impossible to find and expensive.. figured it be easier to just replace the line and new valve .
My 02 had the regulator housing ear brake off which caused the o-ring to shift and subsequently a loss of fuel pressure.
Nicely done. But I think I would have used regular hose clamps that tighten by a screw design, so I don't have to buy yet another high dollar set of crimping pliers.
you cant use reg hose clamps, cause the PFL, will expand due to pressure in the fuel line, causing the plastic to swell, as the hose clamp,diggs into plastic line, causing another leak!
i wonder if you could use regular fuel hose instead of that plastic hose
Did you change the line to the tank . Having a problem connecting it to the injection. How to work the clamp please Help?
Any reason you didn't change the sock filter?
Sure would’ve been nice to see how you put the new clamps on there and how you hook that last hose up with a nice to see that the mechanics of it not just the after affects but it’s all right video I guess
Thanks, clown.
Great video! Did you consider or ask Harley about a different more heavy duty hose? Very curious about that. If the quality of the hose was better, maybe the pin holes wouldn't be so common.
Thank you. Nope I didn't ask because I have no idea what the hose used in the current model Harley(s) is. Hopefully they already fixed this issue. I don't know why it wasn't a recall though, since a misfire on a bike is drastic and a safety concern..
Awesome video, ty a ton!!! same problem, 2005 15 anniv fatboy!! never changed anything, all original!! going to check fo spaying in the tank, when bike running. I do get the dreaded spary sound, after fuel pump stops...??? is that normal, or no??
How long does the sounds last Rich?
Those clamps are called otiker clamps. May not be spelled right. They should have a number on them. I believe these are 15.7
Thanks man appreciate that
I thought I had a great idea to drain my tank at the check valve...Realized later on that there was a quick disconnect there. I now have a leak at the quick disconnect fitting (I think that its JUST the male part, with the o-ring) but I screwed the rest of that line back into the tank. I was able to ride the bike for a couple of minutes but do you think that I internally disconnected the line from the pump? The bike surely wouldn't run, if so... I think if I just replaced 62349-04F I would be ok... any suggestions?
Honestly Graeme I would take the metal plate back off the tank and at least put a flash light down there, and make sure the line isn't twisted or worse, and still replace 62349-04F. That's what I would do. I wouldn't want to figure it out while riding once you for past a half tank; know what I mean-
@@MidknightMechanics Yeah, I know what you mean. If I get into the tank, should I to replace the gasket or you think it would be ok? Anything else I should really do while I'm in there? My bike is a little different than yours (2004 Super Dyna Glide FXDI) but that fuel line should be the same, I think. Thanks for the response and the video. Great help on a visual about what's going on internally.
How did you push the hose onto the connectors? I can’t push it on there. Is there a tool to use to slide hose on?
Mike which one, the metal quick connect? It has a type of collar that has to be pulled back, then push the hose on, then release the collar and it should click.
I have an 04 fatboy i need some help with.. .bike sit for 6months..I cleaned tank and replace pump, check valvue, lines, now it wont start.ran fine when parked for winter..it will run with shot of starter fluid...could injecters be clogged?
Ricky, does it stay running after the starter fluid or does it stall pretty quickly?
@@MidknightMechanics just burns the ether....runs for couple sec
Rick check the plug on the fuel pump under the console to make sure you didn't forget to plug it in? That sounds fuel pump related.
@@MidknightMechanics yeah all good there..i unhooked the fuel line from the injectors and tested it in a jug..it pumps fine ...is there anything like a injector switch?..Its getting fuel to the injectors but not into the motor..plugs look dry....It wont hit a lick..im thinking clogged injectors??
my 07 deluxe just did this, out of nowhere started running on one cylinder. Wouldnt start back! Could this be the issue????
Justin this could be it exactly. Check your engine diagnostics first, to check for codes. I had misfire codes for this issue, and lean codes. There's lots of videos showing how to do this if you haven't run the codes before.
how do you notice that ? the sound of the fuel pump was diferent?
Francisco mine was misfiring so bad under medium to heavy acceleration that it would shut a cylinder off. Then, since I have an 04- It illuminated my yellow check engine light.
@@MidknightMechanics my 07 deluxe just did this, out of nowhere started running on one cylinder. Wouldnt start back! Could this be the issue????
No codes for me , rough starts , and does a cough bad through the intake white smoke
I bought the bike used 31,000 kilometres, and I painted the tank right when I got it and these symptoms started right after, so I’m assuming it’s gotta be something to do with the tank internals as I’ve already changed spark plugs battery and starter clutch
Dan I almost guarantee this fuel fix is it, since you've done all the others.
Early on, mine started misfiring without a code also. It felt like a quick skip.
@@MidknightMechanics would make sense as I pulled it all for paint , could of kinked, miss installed or poked a hole in it myself , hoping that’s all it is! Going to pull tank internals tonight and check thanks
Don’t forget to change the fuel filter while its out
Mine was plugged solid, would hardly start anymore
I have only used 94 oct chevron
It's in the video Gerry!
Good job. Get you a tripod.
about how many miles before you had to do this
9500 miles. BUT, I have no idea if the first owner had already done this before. I'm guessing no.
@@MidknightMechanics holly crap im at 40k so i better take a look thanks.
I'm having no luck finding this fuel line for my 2009 ultra.
Do you mean from a dealer? With the part number I supplied?
@@MidknightMechanics What?
Oetiker clamps
Good hands on video thanks