Fender Supersonic 22: Review, Tone Tips & More
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Welcome to this in depth demo and review of the Fender Super-Sonic 22! What do you think? Using a Fender Japan 60s Stratocaster with Porter 60s Pickups, a Gibson Les Paul, a Shnobel Daily Driver and a Wampler Metaverse. Check out the Supersonic below:
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Right before covid hit, I walked into Guitar Center with $2k to buy a Silver Jubilee mini....I walked out with a Super Sonic 22!!!
Son played a vintage 22 at Carter's in Nashville and it became the favorite amp I've ever heard and I'm in my 60s
I toured with a SuperSonic 22 for 5 years, using the clean channel only. One of the best amps I’ve owned. That sweet spot on the clean channel, pushing it with pedals or cleaning it with volume is just addictive.
I have a Supersonic 60. In my opinion the only harsh sound from it was the vibrolux side of the clean channel which was too bright even with the treble at zero. I discovered that snipping out the treble cap that's wired by the the treble pot fixed the problem and became a great sounding channel. All things considered I consider it a great live gigging amp if one doesn't want to use pedals because every base is covered with the level adjustable effects loop which can be used in a couple of ways by jumping a cable from send to return. I always like your demos, good playing and get a good sense for how the controls effect things
I've got the SS22 head and 2x12 cab, and ABSOLUTELY love it! The burn channel has so much variety to it, and the clean is just beautiful!! Also makes a great pedal platform. Love the reverb too. Go the head and cab people, it blows the combo away!!
FYI - try some drop D with the burn channel on 'plays itself' !!
My usual setting though is Gain 1 = 4, Gain 2 = 9, with my eq set for a little more treble, a little less bass, and all the mids. I find this a great driving sound for playing a les paul or 335 through.
Peace
All very true!I went with the head too.Love it!My reverb is weak though compared to my other Fenders.
I’ve had a SS22 since 2016 and I agree with everything you’ve said here, ESPECIALLY with the Gain 2 knob. I used to not really understand that concept and always had to keep my gains all over the place depending on where and what I was playing. My Gain 1 is usually around 8 o clock or around “2” or rarely higher than “4” and I can adjust my Gain 2 accordingly. I absolutely love mine - it does the fender clean thing at low volumes, and agree on the “saggy” aspect. I completely fell in love when I did the simplest thing that I had never really done before - use the volume and tone knobs on my guitar 😆
I bought my SS22 combo in 2016. I find it very versatile for all the cover tunes our band plays. I use a distortion pedal on the Burn channel to get a bit more bite. The Vintage channel sounds great, love this amp. I play with a Fender sss Strat.
I own a 22 and have played a 60, both are great amps. You just got to know your way around them. These amps, like my early 2000s Fender (Custom Shop designed Pro Series) "Custom" Virbrolux Reverb 2x10 Jensen combo are not made to be pretty, little, hiss free amps for the bedroom or recording. Instead, they are made to go out and rule on the gig with cut through that is quite dynamic and lovely at the 22, 40 and 60 watts level for your various gigs , genres, and sizes of venues. The CVR is a rowdy little beast capable of tremendous clarity and cut through, and works well as a pedal platform, while the Super-Sonic series has more of the modern bells and whistles with channel switching and the dual gains. You can have channel switching on the CVR using an A/B pedal and two chain of effects if you want it. I think the CVR is more like a Carr. Set the amp volume high, keep your guitar volume down for clean, turn it up for solos, or step on some pre-adjusted pedals. The 40 watts will really cover some sizable gigs with great cut through. The Jensen P10R AlNiCo speakers give you a beautiful clarity and presence. I play MOR pop rock, mostly 60s and 70s. Corny sweet 60s pop, classic rock, southern rock, new and old country and the like. But don't be fooled, these amps can roar.
Nice review of this amp. I have one and it checks all the boxes for me. I replaced the speaker with an Eminence Red, White, and Blue and now it's even better.
Very nice - yeah the stock speaker is better than I expected but I could still see it being a candidate for an upgrade.
I’ve had a 60w SuperSonic head for well over 10 years, and still can’t find anything to beat it… ‘Normal/Fat’ was labelled ‘Vibroking/Bassman’ - ie, ultra clean or bluesy… The Bassman setting is great when it’s cranked, but I must admit, I use the burn channel more. Strat on the front pickup and hit the strings hard, and you’re in the zone. The burn channel cleans up really well, and when it’s combined with a Boss OD-3 overdrive, it’s amazing. Especially with the matching Fender 2x12 cabinet.
The thing about you bro, every time I want to hear just some simple tasty playing, this is where I go! Thanks for sharing!
Superb technique and talent sure don’t hurt either. Great playing Jack. Happy 🇨🇦 Thanksgiving 😎🇨🇦🎸
To you as well! We're about a month off from ours. One of my favorite holidays.
I really like this amps predecessor the fender pro sonic . Killer amp . The burn channel on the super sonic is based on that amp but it's sort of detuned and not as high gain . JACK if you get the chance to play a pro sonic do it you'll love it .
I bought one when they first came out and still have it but yeah went through a lot of pains with it with noise and Reverb problems (cutting in and out) and I finally brought it to someone that had the fender tech bulletin and fixed the Reverb finally!( so sorry when I picked up the amp I asked what they did and the tech that actually worked on it was out that day) and then as far as the noise floor goes,
I put a 12 ay7 in V4 position.
DONE!
I was skeptical of this amp because of all the talk about it being loud, hissing and verb tank rattle. This is a raw amp. I think if I only play through my boutique amp for a while I get used to this almost perfection. But when I play through this supersonic 22 head and my Friedman 212 cab w/ V30's it really sounds quite musical and fun to play through. It's almost a love hate relationship with a lot more love than hate. I'd recommend this amp for the fact that it's actually quite good and may surprise you. It's probably not what you would expect.
You can clean up the noise, but to 100% kill it or nearly so, you'll lose the effect loop. That's the culprit. The tank can be replaced (Fender has a new version) and that will fix that issue. If you don't use the effects loop those two changes will give you everything you're looking for.
The best sounds I've heard from any Supersonic is Royal Blood's singer sending his bass through a POG into two Supersonic 100 heads.
Interesting! Never thought about it for bass.
I have had this amp for many years. I mainly use the clean channel with pedals in the front to get to the almost undetectable tube break up. I can't seem to get a full sound out of the gain channel side of the amp. It is probably operator error, but while I like that side it seems to be to much midrange and not enough full house sound as compared to the clean side with a nice preamp pedal, which comes out as fuller. I'll keep experimenting, but I think this is a great amp nonetheless. Most of us are putting a guitar microphone on the front of the amp these days and running everything through the PA and monitors anyway. You other giggers might have different experience than I, but the days of the wall of speakers driven by massive wattage amps seems to be over. Small gigs less so, but for huge performances the PA throws the sound--at least beyond the stage. Am I wrong? Feel free to pile on.
I have the supersonic 22 and also a deluxe. The cleans are remarkably similar if you AB them. To be honest I rarely use the drive channel though UNLESS I i have an outboard drive. The drive channel seems to handle it better. Your settings for the Texas Blues though sounds nice
Great playing & demo Jack.
Thank you as always!
I have the Head of the 22 and use it through various Marshall cabs and it is a beautiful, detailed sound.
Tried this, couldnt get the cleans good enough or the distortion good enough. And the loud pop between switching channels makes it unuseable live. So, back it went! Pay a few extra for a deluxe reverb and let some decent pedals do your overdrive.
The reverb on mine is pretty unimpressive. I leave it off and use and use a pedal. I wish it was more Deluxe Reverbish. Your's sounds nice though. Can't help but think a better speaker would give this amp a big lift.
Well as much as it impressed me, I don’t disagree - I think a better speaker would make it really awesome.
I really enjoy your review's (a lot of details and great tips). I have this amp for about 8 years and I love it. the only problem in my opinion is the reverb (it seems to be a little bit noisy comparing with my fender twin reverb). One thing that works pretty well for me is using the EP booster in the clean chanel instead of the fat mode. best regards from Brazil
I thought you did a nice review Jack. Should be helpful for the players looking at this amp.
Great demo….sounds very versatile to me. I especially love that strat. I can’t seem to find one just like it, regardless of what search I do. But, I digress. And, today these amps are very affordable (relatively speaking).
I have both and use both on live gigs big and small. I like the effects loop on the pedal, I use my echo in the loop. It never gets dirty and banged up on the floor. The sixty head I use with either a big box (1960A) loaded with original warehouse guitar speakers even before they were a bonified company, the small 4x12 is loaded with vintage 30’s, great sound with my Tokai Les Paul. The 22 kinked out. I was using it at a recording session ata low volume when suddenly it jumped to full volume and sounded like I had a cord plugged in and was touching the end of the cord, volume and tone controls were unresponsive. Gotta get it fixed….I miss it…
You mentioned a Marshall amp with Detail and Body being the gain and volume. You’re thinking of the Vintage Modern amps. Superb amps with loaded KT66 tubes
Yes indeed! Those were great. Love to get one used someday.
@@JackFossett They used to be decently priced a few years ago but the prices have only gone up. It would be cool if Marshall brought it back into their studio series of amps alongside the Plexi, 800, and Jubilee.
Nice Review Jack. Have you ever done a Review of the Fender Bassbreaker 30 ? If you haven’t please consider it. I would be very interested in your opinion and suggested settings for Blues and Classic Rock. Thank you Sir and Cheers from Salem, Ohio.
I haven’t! Actually I’d love to get my hands on a Bassbreaker. I tried the 15 combo and was extremely impressed with it.
My favorite amp sim on my lt25. Wish I had the money for one of these or a champion 100.
So it's a Deluxe Reverb with a gain channel?
And an effects loop!!
"Plays itself" sounds like a compelling setting.
Right? Break time!
Nothing better than the fender black face twin. With a kick ass distortion pedal. But need to also be a kick ass player
Love your amp reviews and your music style. So what amp in your current arsenal makes this amp not necessary to purchase?
Thank you! Thats hard to say - in general, I'm more apt to take a clean amp and use a pedal board. However, for channel switching amps, I have a few Mesas and a Marshall JVM combo. The Supersonic holds its own against them certainly, its just not something I need to invest in. A long time ago I owned a surf green 22 which I foolishly got rid of - if I come across one of those limited ones sometime, I may just pick it up.
@@JackFossett Mmmm...Tasty Mint colored Amps are "delicioso". That and Strats too.
I've had this amp for a few months, bought it used. It is awesome but it is SO LOUD, definitely for home, and for small venues/bars I've played, I'm having a hard time finding a practical use for it even though I think it sounds awesome. I find myself going back to my Princeton Reverb which I can use more to it's full potential, albeit sometimes with a pedal, where the SuperSonic, I agree, doesn't need anything additional unless you do want to play something like slipknot
I had my Amp Tech modify my amp and I really like it. I don't use an attenuator and I can play it in the office and not bother other folks. I also push mine with a pedal (clean boost) and can drive the amp at very low volumes, shockingly so.
Maybe it's me but it sounded a bit noisy like a grounding thing even with the Humbuckers on the clean mode.
To all the Fender ss 22 owners... Add the marshall 2x12, jvm, open back, heritage and vintage speaker to this amp and you'll be amazed!!!! One amp, 3 different speakers, best sound ever. You won't regret ❤️🔥
Nice amp but I’m not hearing chime at all. Someone mentioned to me that this amp will chime.
Great review. It's my dream amp and one that will be a classic in years to come.
Very nice playing! Nice amp
I have a 60...... great amp..... bought it over 10 years ago now..... don't think they make it anymore.....put casters on it....hi Max
have a look at the schematic and compare the normal circuit to the deluxe reverb ctt. They are close. You can see where they were coming from.
Saw this and was curious to see what you thought of it vs. the 112 60W version you reviewed years prior. I still love my SuperSonic 112! I replaced the speaker with a WGS American Vintage G12C/S. Rounds out the harshness of the top end and remains punchy.
12AY7 in V4 = dead silent at idle
Ive owned a super sonic for years. Best advise to anyone looking at this amp is to swap the eminence speaker to a vintage 30 like the 60 had. The stock speaker is rubbish
I have te 60 head, the old one with no reverb and the burn channel is awesome! But the clean is a lot « fuzzy » ! Do you think it’s a problem ? 😅😅 i use it wiith a Two Notes aténuator and the fuzz clean noise comes a volume on 3 …. 😮
Goddamn if this aint the smoothest sickest amp i ever heard fuck
I have a supersonic but the 60w!! Would it improve enough if you changed the speaker for a vintage Alnico Jensen P12N???... I also have a Vox screen with two CELESTION CREAMBACKs, how do you think the union of a creamback with that Jensen could work??? thank you so much !!
I have the same rig P90s guitar with a Supersonic 22 combo. What do you think of the stock speaker ? What is a good replacement speaker if necessary ? For home use I use a volume box passive attenuator in the fx loop, seems to tame the beast.
I'm running an Eminence GASC64. The stock speaker is fine but this is better...
Hi Jack! Jack from Poland on this side of Internet :). I am looking for quiet clean platform/amp. Cleanest, quieter, as possible and low volume (playing at home/flat). What shall I try to your taste and after trying the amps by yourself. I know it is a personal taste, but just what's your opinion?
Fender 68 Vibro Champ or the Supro 64 series are a good bet!
Thank you and all the best Jack.@@JackFossett
I got a ltd SS22 used w/ Greenback speaker to replace my older Blues Jr. The foot controlled fx loop is the gamechanger. I put my EchoPark as a solo boost and 🔥.
Note- Paid $800+ tax…and there is a popping issue switching channels if volume isn’t unity. Just an fyi.
Speaker upgrade?
None in this one - all stock
I have this amp and why they put that speaker that is beyond me the speaker is trash but the amp is good I had a vintage thirty in mine and wow whT a differrence would like to put a more American speaker in it too as it loses that kinda black face vibe with the mid thick Celestion so many speakers out there its a hard choice man
I have this amp, love it . Great review. I replaced the Fender speaker in mine with an Eminence Red, White, and Blue and it rocks.
Weber Blue Dog Alnico, hemp cone in mine. Very nice.
I went with the Eminence GA-SC64. The stock speaker was fine but this speaker really brings out the deluxe reverb character whilst still coping with higher gain. It's also a bit more efficient so you gain headroom.
Well, Shit. I've exclusively been playing a SS22 for about 7 years, gigs, practices, and solo basement sessions. Ask me anything. Love this lightweight lil workhorse getting some youtube love tho, thanks Jack.
Edit: Don't turn the reverb up past 4, unless you like the sound of mouse farts lingering ethereally across the grand canyon.
How are the cleans on it? Is there enough headroom? I love a clean channel with pedals.
So true on the reverb.Only thing i do not like about mine.
SUENA GENIAL
Gracias!
That overdrive sound is horrible. Really mushy, muddy and fuzzy. Sound like a cheap overdrive pedal.
This was my favorite model on my fender mustang and Im a high gain player, play progressive and extreme metal. I used to borrow my friends all the time and this thing chugs with transparent overdrives and a mid boost. I try to recreate it on my line 6 helix LT using a deluxe patch with my bk butler tube driver, but im switching to an all amp set up and its between this and a PRS archon to pair with an EVH 5150
mine is 6 months old and makes a constant static sounding noise in the clean channel. is this normal. If I hit the boost button it is still there but lower in voulme. I have never had a tube amp so not sure if this is normal;
It may be your tubes. I was having the same issue with mine and then I changed the v4 and v3 to a 12at7 boom, dead quiet.
@@TheEarthling78 thanks. Where did you hit your replacement tubes ?
@@garysbraccia4980 zzounds
12AY7 in V4
I think a jose style jcm800 mod would turn this into a fire breather
I love my supersonic 22 however the river broke and I had it fixed for over a $100 it stopped working again a week later
Did the river flood the amp
Amazing amp, wish they were a little lighter to carry