I find intuitive faces tend to be "upper face dominant", while sensory faces tend to be "lower face dominant". With dominant I mean which part of the face is big. This can be in both width and depth. Generally I find big jaws and forward protruding chins to be sensory dominant. However, sensory dominant people can be out of proportion too, but then it's more often their lower face that is too big. For example, a Jake Paul that has a proportionally very big chin compared to the rest of his face. Also, I find that high sensory (especailly high Se) makes people look mature much quicker in their youth. It seems they hit puberty sooner in life. A sensory dominant can look like they are a real man with a full beard when they are 15 while the higher intuitive can still look like a boy at 25. However, of course it's not always the case of course and does not mean the intuitive will also automatically remain to look younger too when they get old, as there is a difference between signs of 'maturation' and 'aging'. Of course subjects like this are often not taken seriously or even portreyed as evil in the general view, but I would say this might be more because such things are seen as politically incorrect rather than them nessisarily being untrue. Also, because it's seen as politcally incorrect, it's also harder for it to be super accurate, as hardly anyone invests time in perfecting such ideas as they are seen as politically incorrect or 'morally incorrect'. I might make a video or write about this subject (if enough people find this sort of thing interesting?)
@@lencone Well, when it comes to individual facial features and traits associated with them it is not that much a touchy subject, as far as I know at least. However, when it comes to the possibility of shared facial features among specific groups such as gender, race and such they could be perceived as more politically incorrect if one were to attribute more value to certain traits than others.
3:01 as a ENFJ i usually "get it out there" before i really have to say anything about it, my Ni is not interested in closing loops that are not opening more loops being an extrovert "play". I noticed that difference with Parent Ni vs. Inf. Ni in ESxP they are very right about their Ni projections or hypothesis its just assumptive or even hopeful of the fact that more Ni usage wouldn't be needed, just argued, so like i'll make business decisions without questioning it, while questioning sensory details(making ENxJs seem more pushy), but ESxP will debate business decisions without questioning sensory details making them *seem* like they're neglecting potential consequences. I appreciate your details in these little bits of conversation it helps me understand how I process
We might not agree on everything, but I really wanted to say I appreciated the level of honesty and authenticity in your video. The world is fundamentally unfair and can be extremely frustrating at times; completely agree with you that "Acceptance" is a core tenet necessary for not going insane in life, especially as a double introvert with 'Masculine Fi'. Easy to say; sometimes extremely difficult to do. It's not at all synonymous with 'giving up'; more so, an intermittent exercise of "forced reality-embracing". Changing what you can, and not raging against what you cannot. Hope you're well, Dave.
Getting into some shaky territory here, but... Asymmetrical faces / noses could be indicators of Ni prevalence. The Romans used to see a crooked nose as a sign of wisdom / leadership qualities.
I think such subjects as the looks-personality correlation are often viewed in a negative manner more so because they are politically incorrect or seen as 'morally incorrect' rather than nessisarily untrue in their nature. However, at the same time because they are avoided so much, there is no progress and anyone who begins investigating it will likely not get it's degree if accuracy up instantly, which might on its trun make others automatically discredit the idea as a whole. It's a complicated manner, but at the same time I do think the relationship between our biology and psychology is very interesting. I also think things like health issues are related to this, which makes also makes it interersting. Also, Ai can now guess with 90% accuracy if a person is straight or gay based on a picture of their face (which does or might suggest a correlation between the internal world and facial features)
@@PowerRedBullTypology Totally agreed, the political correctness often masks truths and stigmatizes research. Another thing I would like to add: Dave spoke about EPs statistically clustering around wide faces. This could be due to higher testosterone levels which favors exploration/yolo as opposed to a more restrained and analytical worldview. Either way I think all this is extremely interesting.
Blast in a nutshell: Are you ready to go? 'Cause I'm ready to go What you gonna do baby, baby? Are you going with me? 'Cause I'm going with you That's the end of all time
Being an 'E' or an 'I' in the terminology has nothing to do with the degree to which someone is an extrovert or an introvert. You seem not to have watched the videos about the differences between Observers and Deciders. A good deal of ExxPs can be more introverted than a good deal of IxxPs.
@@lencone I've never known esfp who has "people problems". E-Ps trive in social situations. You know who has people problems? I-Ps. For me if it sounds and walks and talks like a duck, it is a duck.
@@entropyfun Everyone has both problems with people and with things, and the contrast in the degree to which each one has of each problem will define the side of the observer/decider field they are on. In this case, Dave found this guy to be double deciding his way through his tribe problems, and therefore he's an observer, according to his assessment. But that was not the point I was making. Rather, I commented on your reason to type Brad as an ISFP in your original comment, which is the fact the Brad is "way more introverted than esfps," as though being introverted is a valid reason to type someone as an Ixxx, which is not, given the terminology of the OP system much elucidated by Dave and Shannon on older videos. Besides, as I said, a good deal of ExxPs (those that are Consume then Sleep, for example) are a lot more introverted than a good deal of IxxPs (Consume then Play.)
just for the future if you reference something like the MF-se/fi chart, please like the video you made or someone else explain in a link in the comments. thank you 😊
well, it's a complex system, and if Dave were to explain every term as he uses them, the video would become unbearably long. if you want to understand, you might want to watch the oldest videos on the channel
Yeah, start with some of the earlier videos. They never really lay everything out clearly. You just have to soak up the ideas over time and then they start to fall into place.
The difference between your fossil record and the Evolutionists fossil record is your fossil record might have some transitional fossils lol. No transitional fossils😂😂
@@dariaantonov7257 he might be MM but no way he is an infj if you watch him you well see that he is talks about The Matrix control the facts all day this looks like a demon si to me I think he is an entp
Yeah he’s introverted but this is not mbti, this is ops. His last function is Ni and therefore he is ESFP, because for ISFPs the last function is Te. And technically he’s blast last so he is defined as introverted.
I find intuitive faces tend to be "upper face dominant", while sensory faces tend to be "lower face dominant". With dominant I mean which part of the face is big. This can be in both width and depth. Generally I find big jaws and forward protruding chins to be sensory dominant. However, sensory dominant people can be out of proportion too, but then it's more often their lower face that is too big. For example, a Jake Paul that has a proportionally very big chin compared to the rest of his face.
Also, I find that high sensory (especailly high Se) makes people look mature much quicker in their youth. It seems they hit puberty sooner in life. A sensory dominant can look like they are a real man with a full beard when they are 15 while the higher intuitive can still look like a boy at 25. However, of course it's not always the case of course and does not mean the intuitive will also automatically remain to look younger too when they get old, as there is a difference between signs of 'maturation' and 'aging'.
Of course subjects like this are often not taken seriously or even portreyed as evil in the general view, but I would say this might be more because such things are seen as politically incorrect rather than them nessisarily being untrue. Also, because it's seen as politcally incorrect, it's also harder for it to be super accurate, as hardly anyone invests time in perfecting such ideas as they are seen as politically incorrect or 'morally incorrect'.
I might make a video or write about this subject (if enough people find this sort of thing interesting?)
Wait. I don't understand. Would looking for face traits to figure out if someone is sensory or intuitive politically incorrect?
Very interesting.
@@lencone Well, when it comes to individual facial features and traits associated with them it is not that much a touchy subject, as far as I know at least. However, when it comes to the possibility of shared facial features among specific groups such as gender, race and such they could be perceived as more politically incorrect if one were to attribute more value to certain traits than others.
So N = big brain, S = chad chin
3:01 as a ENFJ i usually "get it out there" before i really have to say anything about it, my Ni is not interested in closing loops that are not opening more loops being an extrovert "play". I noticed that difference with Parent Ni vs. Inf. Ni in ESxP they are very right about their Ni projections or hypothesis its just assumptive or even hopeful of the fact that more Ni usage wouldn't be needed, just argued, so like i'll make business decisions without questioning it, while questioning sensory details(making ENxJs seem more pushy), but ESxP will debate business decisions without questioning sensory details making them *seem* like they're neglecting potential consequences.
I appreciate your details in these little bits of conversation it helps me understand how I process
We might not agree on everything, but I really wanted to say I appreciated the level of honesty and authenticity in your video.
The world is fundamentally unfair and can be extremely frustrating at times; completely agree with you that "Acceptance" is a core tenet necessary for not going insane in life, especially as a double introvert with 'Masculine Fi'. Easy to say; sometimes extremely difficult to do. It's not at all synonymous with 'giving up'; more so, an intermittent exercise of "forced reality-embracing". Changing what you can, and not raging against what you cannot.
Hope you're well, Dave.
Always a good day when there’s a Dave vid, thanks Dave 👍🏻
Getting into some shaky territory here, but... Asymmetrical faces / noses could be indicators of Ni prevalence. The Romans used to see a crooked nose as a sign of wisdom / leadership qualities.
I think such subjects as the looks-personality correlation are often viewed in a negative manner more so because they are politically incorrect or seen as 'morally incorrect' rather than nessisarily untrue in their nature. However, at the same time because they are avoided so much, there is no progress and anyone who begins investigating it will likely not get it's degree if accuracy up instantly, which might on its trun make others automatically discredit the idea as a whole. It's a complicated manner, but at the same time I do think the relationship between our biology and psychology is very interesting. I also think things like health issues are related to this, which makes also makes it interersting.
Also, Ai can now guess with 90% accuracy if a person is straight or gay based on a picture of their face (which does or might suggest a correlation between the internal world and facial features)
@@PowerRedBullTypology Totally agreed, the political correctness often masks truths and stigmatizes research. Another thing I would like to add: Dave spoke about EPs statistically clustering around wide faces. This could be due to higher testosterone levels which favors exploration/yolo as opposed to a more restrained and analytical worldview. Either way I think all this is extremely interesting.
"Good genetics, physically, at times. Sorry about your luck."
Thank you 🥺 Lmao
what about feminine fi saviour? i am really curious how would you explain the flow of emotions in that case
this has remainded me of the Dr.K (the healthygamerguy) episode
don't care. didn't ask.
@@accountnew7030This seems a strange response to such an innocuous comment...
@@KayKayBayForever Some people are on the comments just to troll. Got nothing better to do.
@@accountnew7030🧠🫵❔️
5:18 Why is trouble understanding the negative emotions of the tribe considered to be trouble with NI?
Picasso faces 😂
Uncle Daaaavvveee!!!!!!
Blast in a nutshell:
Are you ready to go?
'Cause I'm ready to go
What you gonna do baby, baby?
Are you going with me?
'Cause I'm going with you
That's the end of all time
Moppy esfp with savior fi - kinda sounds like isfp. He's way more introverted than esfps.
Being an 'E' or an 'I' in the terminology has nothing to do with the degree to which someone is an extrovert or an introvert. You seem not to have watched the videos about the differences between Observers and Deciders. A good deal of ExxPs can be more introverted than a good deal of IxxPs.
@@lencone I've never known esfp who has "people problems". E-Ps trive in social situations. You know who has people problems? I-Ps. For me if it sounds and walks and talks like a duck, it is a duck.
@@entropyfun Everyone has both problems with people and with things, and the contrast in the degree to which each one has of each problem will define the side of the observer/decider field they are on.
In this case, Dave found this guy to be double deciding his way through his tribe problems, and therefore he's an observer, according to his assessment.
But that was not the point I was making. Rather, I commented on your reason to type Brad as an ISFP in your original comment, which is the fact the Brad is "way more introverted than esfps," as though being introverted is a valid reason to type someone as an Ixxx, which is not, given the terminology of the OP system much elucidated by Dave and Shannon on older videos.
Besides, as I said, a good deal of ExxPs (those that are Consume then Sleep, for example) are a lot more introverted than a good deal of IxxPs (Consume then Play.)
@@lencone yeaah get his ass
Does OP claim to be a different system than MBTI or that they are expanding on it?
just for the future if you reference something like the MF-se/fi chart, please like the video you made or someone else explain in a link in the comments.
thank you 😊
As someone watching the channel for the first time there is so much undefined language/terms that I can't really understand what is being said.
well, it's a complex system, and if Dave were to explain every term as he uses them, the video would become unbearably long. if you want to understand, you might want to watch the oldest videos on the channel
Yeah, start with some of the earlier videos. They never really lay everything out clearly. You just have to soak up the ideas over time and then they start to fall into place.
What type is Putin?? I had always thought of him as some sort of sleep istp
He was typed si-ti isfj i believe
Ti Ni sleep ISTP
Or alternatively
Ni Fi INTJ
But either way, Sleep dominant. Absolutely
@@filipposa212 OP database on airtable has him typed FM-Si/Fi-SC/P(B,) social type 3. So ISTJ - seems about right.
@@filipposa212 they said he's an ixxj
@@oscarl.3563he’s Si-Fi ISTJ SC/P(B) MF
The difference between your fossil record and the Evolutionists fossil record is your fossil record might have some transitional fossils lol. No transitional fossils😂😂
he isn't (that type)
He reeks of Si/Ne valuing. You are missing the mark on this one!
There's no way on earth you actually think this guy is an Se user...
He is isfp
awsome thank you !!!!!
can you do andrew tate
Yes please! By the way if you’re wondering he is MM Ni/Ti SBPC
@@dariaantonov7257 he might be MM but no way he is an infj if you watch him you well see that he is talks about The Matrix control the facts all day this looks like a demon si to me I think he is an entp
He's really introverted. He's an ISFP. Leo Dicaprio is the real ESFP
Yeah he’s introverted but this is not mbti, this is ops. His last function is Ni and therefore he is ESFP, because for ISFPs the last function is Te. And technically he’s blast last so he is defined as introverted.
Leo entp
He is ESTJ