Keir Starmer learns from Tories’ big election mistake | How To Win An Election

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  • Опубліковано 26 кві 2024
  • “One of the reasons I came into politics is to stop things that I think are stupid ideas from happening.”
    Peter Mandelson reveals Labour's election manifesto secret - to not repeat the mistakes of the Conservatives. Daniel Finkelstein and Polly Mackenzie look at when manifestos work and why parties should be careful not to leave "unexploded ordnance" to be detonated by the opposition.
    And Peter Mandelson painfully recalls Labour’s most embarrassing election defeat - to H’Angus the Monkey in Hartlepool.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 58

  • @Thought_Processing_
    @Thought_Processing_ Місяць тому +29

    The secret: actually f***ing delivering on your promises.

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 Місяць тому +5

      That's why Starmer isn't over promising but he's getting rinsed for that by some people.

    • @Thought_Processing_
      @Thought_Processing_ Місяць тому

      @@davecross4493 I know. I get the hate but quite frankly he is set to win the greatest victory in the history of Labour at present, why risk a change of course. Also I think Rachel Reeves has said Labour plans to under promise and over deliver so there is a reasonable chance that he might do a lot of what the left wing of the party wants. The upcoming general election is also a once in a lifetime chance to actually destroy the Tories as a party for ever leaving the Lib dems as the de facto right wing party in the UK with the extreme right wing fracturing among several fringe parties. This would allow Labour to drift Left and remain electorally viable, or in a more extreme case allow a huge chunk of the party to break off and form a more left wing party that is viable from the outset.

    • @Dmanz67
      @Dmanz67 Місяць тому +2

      No, thats not secret. The secret is saying whatever it takes to get elected. That's what the lesson from the Tories is.

    • @Thought_Processing_
      @Thought_Processing_ Місяць тому +2

      @@Dmanz67 That is true enough, but only works short term.

    • @fionarangel9486
      @fionarangel9486 27 днів тому

      ​@@davecross4493Starmer is being sensible with what he can promise to deliver, get him in No.10 and we will soon see the impact

  • @faffer1073
    @faffer1073 Місяць тому +25

    Feel sorry for Sunak?
    He’s just signed off on new oil and gas that won’t benefit the British people- but will benefit Infosys (his family). He’s clinging on to power to try and get a trade deal with India that won’t benefit the British people- but will benefit Infosys (his family).
    I’ll save my sympathies for the British people, they’re being shafted by a man they never voted for.

    • @Jaffa565
      @Jaffa565 22 дні тому

      This is just racist

  • @AlBion-rw9kd
    @AlBion-rw9kd 29 днів тому +3

    The big mistake is saying you're gonna limit immigration to tens of thousands then sticking a zero on the end

  • @francisravenscroft-dw6gi
    @francisravenscroft-dw6gi 9 днів тому

    The house of lords is supposed to be non partisan, which clearly is not- so the next government, need to slim it down- ideally to a historical footnote.

  • @daispy101
    @daispy101 16 днів тому

    "We should grow a lot of corn and earn a lot of corn" Daniel Finkelstein? As if those two are connected! You can work as hard as anyone in any business and the rewards will be as small as your employer can make them.

  • @fionarangel9486
    @fionarangel9486 27 днів тому

    "I hope your rendezvous with the voters goes well, haha" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @SanSeriffe
    @SanSeriffe Місяць тому +7

    I think you could swap Peter Mandelson and Jacob Rees-Mogg, and you'd hardly notice the change so far as mannerisms are concerned.

    • @thetragicyouth
      @thetragicyouth Місяць тому +2

      - and increasingly their politics too.

  • @Frithogar
    @Frithogar Місяць тому

    English viewers are wondering how would they constitute citizen's assemblies solely from Garrick Club members.

  • @Benjamin.Jamin.
    @Benjamin.Jamin. Місяць тому +7

    May the election never come so that this podcast never ends!

    • @j.x.x.r3645
      @j.x.x.r3645 Місяць тому

      don't worry there are elections every five years

  • @kennethmaley2443
    @kennethmaley2443 20 днів тому

    Mandleson the man that was sacked by his own government then sent off to the EU gravy train.

  • @jonathanfell688
    @jonathanfell688 29 днів тому +3

    Starmer is head and shoulders over anýthing the Tories have yo offer.

  • @candyman5912
    @candyman5912 Місяць тому +3

    At 12:25, Peter Mandelson said you can feel a little sorry for Sunak. I don't.
    He has been far too willing to support or be an apologist for bigotry in his party. Thus allowing them to use his 'browness' as a shield from accusations of racism.
    1. He defended Johnson after he made racist remarks about Muslim women and black people.
    2. He went against his belief that the Rwanda Bill wouldn't work and supported it anyway (no integrity and spineless).
    3. And he didn't call out Lee Anderson's racism relating to Sadiq Khan.
    Good riddance now the mean spiritedness and cruelty in his party, that he rolled with, is now consuming him.

  • @davidfenton4387
    @davidfenton4387 26 днів тому

    If he continues in the same vein with pro WEF open borders then he won't last long. The people are passed at the hopeless leadership of Sunak, if Starmer continues it, then it could get nasty.

  • @Dwina5892
    @Dwina5892 15 днів тому

    Starmer is going to finish what Blair started but never finished.
    By the end of Starmers leadership Labour Party will be dying

    • @COUNTDOWNTOPOWER
      @COUNTDOWNTOPOWER 14 днів тому

      2019 - 80 seat tory majority.
      2024 - Labour certain to win and the tories facing electoral annihilation.
      Tories - literally lowest polling in their whole history.
      Labour - over 20 points ahead in the polls.
      Doesn't look like it's dying from here mate. Wishful thinking maybe?
      You a tory or a Corbynite, by any chance? lol

  • @SanSeriffe
    @SanSeriffe Місяць тому

    A shame you dumbed down the introductory few minutes.

  • @Newsopathy-gf2ug
    @Newsopathy-gf2ug Місяць тому

    If you want really bad political videos that have been well-circulated, you have to go back to Neil Kinnock in the late eighties/early nineties. Just painfully embarrassing, especially the one with Tracy Ullman. The 1992 election was his to lose: no wonder he lost twice!

  • @mikebeevers2416
    @mikebeevers2416 Місяць тому +2

    Regardless of politics isn't he utterly creepy and loathsome? Had to resign twice for taking money and lying to his mortgage company. Lied again, lobbying for people who wanted passports and took their money. Should have served a few years in nick.

    • @jaexiusnem1267
      @jaexiusnem1267 25 днів тому

      Also was a friend of Jeffery Epstein.

  • @jamestojoinujkkhpuddle1897
    @jamestojoinujkkhpuddle1897 20 днів тому

    22:30

  • @paulbo9033
    @paulbo9033 28 днів тому +2

    I'm amazed unelected peer Mandelson decided to take time out from his oligarch friends yacht to grace us with his presence.

    • @DisleyDavid
      @DisleyDavid 27 днів тому

      Have you only just noticed the Lords are not elected or do you only object if they are not hereditary?😢😢

    • @paulbo9033
      @paulbo9033 27 днів тому

      @@DisleyDavid I'm not sure what point you think you're making, but it definitely sounded better in your head before you typed it.

    • @DisleyDavid
      @DisleyDavid 27 днів тому

      @@paulbo9033 So you don't know what you meant.

  • @SP-eo1vl
    @SP-eo1vl Місяць тому

    Is Peter Mandelson aware of the adverts interspersing this pod? -- He might not be happy and I am going to give up listening if there is any more I am so disgusted

  • @Dwina5892
    @Dwina5892 Місяць тому +1

    He will go down like a lead balloon in Scotland

    • @jonathanfell688
      @jonathanfell688 29 днів тому +1

      Silly sausage

    • @Dwina5892
      @Dwina5892 29 днів тому +1

      @@jonathanfell688 Starmer is a pale blue Tory

    • @jonnobloggs1139
      @jonnobloggs1139 15 днів тому

      I fully expect PM Starmer to surreptitiously push Anas Sarwer into the broom cupboard and make Tony Blair First Minister. He will be an excellent fit.

  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 29 днів тому

    Oh no - so much deja vu. Mealy mouthed Mandelson, the worst of new labour. He should not be allowed near the levers of power and influence

  • @mikebeevers2416
    @mikebeevers2416 Місяць тому +2

    I am curious why Mandelson and Stephen Fry never seemingly appear in public with their young male Brazilian partners.