Boris Johnson’s political career ‘finished’ by PMQs
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- Опубліковано 1 кві 2024
- “PMQs brought Boris Johnson down. It finished his prime ministerial career because he didn’t tell the truth.”
Peter Mandelson and Daniel Finkelstein debate whether Boris Johnson could have survived as prime minister had he been upfront about the truth at PMQs. Polly Mackenzie explains why negative campaigning in elections can be so harmful.
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The deceitful liar should be locked up. IMO. 🇬🇧✌
Who? Mandelson? Too right.
Boris is out cashing in and doesn't care about anything but himself. Same thing with politicians here in the US
The English Trump, owes the NHS £56,000,000/week and for ever as he promised on his big red bus. and dont forget his "Let the bodies pile high."
More like 5% of GDP.
But he could not recall as Foreign Sec giving any secrets to Russian oligarch friends of Putin during the Novichok crisis as recorded at a select committee around the time of his ousting, having flown solo to Tuscany losing his security detail after a NATO meeting. The photo of him guttered at St Francis of Assisi airport was passed off as a "heavy night"
The way I see it, the real issue is more that such a large proportion of the electorate are ignorant morons, and our electoral system doesn't represent millions of us (whilst too often given an inordinate voice to said morons).
"He was just joking.Can't you take a bit of banter then?" (Pub corner quote) Er no he was literally a killing joke for most of his tenure at no.10 from lockdown negligence to Iranian gaffes and the cavalier disregard for customs rules that control food and critical pharmaceuticals.
Sunak aka the snake has his hands too dipped in blood from his acquiescence in the Johnson administration.
Do some basic research and you will find that amount plus much more has been thrown into the money pit called the NHS every year since 2016. Still not working but who cares let’s have more DEI officers at 100k plus rather than have health care.
Maybe do some critical thinking rather than spout a factually incorrect statement of propaganda.
NHS funding 2016 107bn 2023 funding 168.8 bn. 61bn of increase rather than your desired figure of 2.9bn. See how dumb that is? That is a budget increase of 57% since 2016. Source NHS !!!!
Nice to see that there are 51 people that bought the factual incorrectness of your statement.
The NHS got that money unfortunately. Considering the bodies piling high in Ukraine and Crocus city hall that other comment does not seem as shocking as you might like in the rearview mirror.
Alexander Boris "£53,000,000 for a bridge that doesn't exist" de Pfeffel Johnson
You could more accurately describe him with just four letters.
You forgot Kemil his Turkish name
People will never forgive him for having parties with his cronies while they couldn't hold the hand of a dying relative. The sheer audacity of him to think that he was better than anyone else in that the rules don't apply to him and to say he didn't understand the rules his government set!
I can’t understand how anyone voted for him in the first place, warnings of his behaviour were everywhere
How many people would have voted for him if they knew his real name: John Johnson?
A bit like Kier and the curry I don't blame them. Anyone with two brain cells could see the rules were utter nonsense and totally out of proportion to the level of threat posed by the virus. The anger people feel the is because they now realise the whole thing was nonsense and they bought in.
Boris was a big disappointment
They do forgive him because "Just imagine how bad it would be if Labour had been in power".
Sunak never ever answers a Question from Starmer only talks about Corbyn!
Rather than "How to win an election", how about "Life after Politics" to help Daniel's (future ex -) colleagues?
What advantage is gained by having the PM answer ANY question when his ministers are alongside much better informed. What a waste of time. David mccabe dublin
As was once the format, it was Thacher who decided that she should answer all questions, prior the PM would ask other ministers to answer.
People watch it to see attempts to land a blow on the PM and the counters.
Politics in Westminster is not about facts, that is far too sensible and boring.
But what it shows is that Sunak doesn't answer questions, that revealed the self serving vacuum that is the current government.
🤡 Bojo 🤡 was put on record, then forced out when unsurprisingly the known liar selling delusion had lied yet again, having his party's popularity crashing and staying down because they cannot address the core reasons, which are the deluded policies.
If they had a technocratic style scrutiny like select committee nobody would see it.
The sound engineer still hasn't realised Mandelson needs turning up due to his interminable murmuring and Chorley needs turning down due to his ear splitting cackling
The way Mandelson handed over those eggs was like they were full of arsenic 😂😂
It's rich for a Tory pm to bring up Jimmy Saville considering Saville celebrated Christmas at Chequers with Maggie Thatcher.
Other countries not having this "forensic, structured scrutiny of the PM"?
Yes, so do other countries, except that we manage it without shouting, screaming and mockery. Now that Britain has so many challenges, I wish they could update their parliament into a modern civilized place that makes room for intelligent and constructive dialogues and solutions. I agree with the German questioning this weird British circus. Greetings from Scandinavia.
I liked the poem, thanks for another great episode.
Boris was way out of his depth
Many parliaments have a PMQ. It just looks different in a system that is not first past the post
PMQ are a total waste of time as *whoever* is the PM never actually answers any of them and an undignified rabble of self important hucksters baying at each other.
100%, it is a nebulous nothingness
Class A-war criminal. Exactly why did they stretch Ribbentrop's neck ? Help me Boris i've forgotten.
If you think Johnson would have 'survived', then you don't know the British people at all. They don't like liars, cheats and charlatans and it wouldn't matter how many times Johnson apologized. He's a dodo.
We love liars. We vote for them all the time.
How come they vote Reform? and Brexit?
Emmm i think you maybe mis judged British people. Because actually, the British people voted him in and he was clearly a liar, cheat and charlatan long before he was voted for.
These British people have voted for the tories many many times irrespective of the fact that the tories continue to lie to them, cheat them and are charlatans.
@@benedictcowell6547 And voted in 4 governments in a row who promised to get immigration down to the tens of thousands.
There once was a podcast of exception,
Aging has-beens full of perception,
It's almost as if,
Too soft now not stiff,
Nor hard enough to win an election.
PMQs "holding Whitehall to account" ... also in an age when the standard playbook for dealing with a crisis is to bunker down and avoid all interviews ... the number of resignations that happen the night before PMQs is substantial !
Is Daniel sitting on a specially lowered chair?
I can remember a wonderful Voiceover by comedienne Janey Godley on Johnson leaving the commons for the last time. Full of clear comments and ending up with “don’t touch me, you stabbed me in the back! Where’s Nadine, I want Nadine?”. …….
Has Danny seen the Weatabix TV ad
Finally there's a reason to party!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The impression given is that PMQs is almost entirely scripted.
Well, the PM does 'game' the session with senior advisers beforehand (believe it or not, given Sunak's dire performances)!
I've noticed that myself
The Tories needed a BS specialist to sell Brexit, so they called upon Johnson. But in doing so set in motion their own demise. The pandemic certainly did not help, but the general public were never going to see the sunny uplands, and the rebound was inevitable.
I live in the United States now but I like to keep abreast -- I just wanted to point out how refreshing it is that a right-wing outlet incorporates such a balanced view
Over here, it's completely barmy, we have nothing of the sort -- news is either hard right, extreme right, or center-left and it's absolutely intolerable
The center-right in the US has just been completely obliterated and it's pretty scary. Sorry to bring america into everything, just wanted to express a point of comparison for anyone interested -- I think folks back home can downplay just how bonkers it is here
In Dutch PMQs the prime minister does not get away as easily as the British PM. I have never ever heard a straight answer to a question from the opposition in the British PMQs. But then again, lying to parliament is a mortal sin in the Netherlands, unlike in the UK.
When is the Russian report coming out it’s been covered up long enough
I don't remember Mandelson fronting up and apologising on each of the occasions he was found to have broken the rules and sacked from Blair's cabinet(s).
To be fair, he resigned both times and for the second one (involving the Hinduja brothers), he was cleared of wrongdoing.
Classic whataboutery.
Don't remember the resignations?
People genuinely cannot remember all the scandal, lying and rule breaking by 🤡 Bojo 🤡.
Going solo after a NATO meeting during the Novichok crisis to get guttered with a Putin oligarch was one example of what the Tory press don't talk about, even after his admission in select committee when he at last faced questions about it
When it comes to 'attack ads', negative campaigning, personality-tarnishing (deserved or not) comes from the polarising politics, indeed society, we have now. Everything is turned into a binary situation, there is no nuance. It's possible to question something without being for or against it; opinions are seen as facts.
Thats what happens when you're led by a by divide and rule Government run by PR stunts and three word slogans.
I thought Polly was going to say that the poem was better than the chocolate egg.
Hopefully we might get the road works in order leave at least one motorway open north and south and the crazy diversions on diversions they are ridiculous
Lichfield is 'pothole' city, the place is falling apart!
How many people can you cram into a storage cupboard?!
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@@p-james They could have a guest who could sit on Mandy's lap!
“Where’s the Labour press?” Response names practically the only two left-leaning publications in this right-wing dominated UK media sphere.
There's some surprising dishonesty here which undermines the credibility of the opinions expressed. 'Cleggmania' was real in 2010. His performance in the threeway leaders' debate genuinely moved the dial and, for a while, it looked possible the voters would split three ways. What didn't help on polling day was the first past the post system, and even then the Lib Dems secured over fifty seats and their first opportunity for a genuine share of power in nearly 100 years.
I wasn't expecting this level of bias (or bitterness?) from this panel.
The problem for Clegg and the LibDems after the election, was that they effectively handed all power over to the Tories, and voted in-line with the Tories on matters that they promised they wouldn't. The electorate punished them in the next GE, and it's taken them almost 10 years to recover.
Does anyone think Mandelson ever tells the whole truth?
I am so sorry for the naivety of a Brit to claim that this horrible shouting and acting in your Parliament is because you are "doing a better job of scrutinizing your PM".
It is such an ignorant comment. There are questioning hours in other developed countries as well. And it's utterly possible to ask really critical questions without shouting. You should try it.
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That was a waste of my time.
How to win an election? Don't be a Tory of course 😂
That's what you look like Matt.
I have been an Anglophile since age 12 (when Britain joined the EEC) and I am great fan of your podcast (especially of Lord Finkelstein). But I can't help being stunned (and more and more so) by the parochialism of political conversation in the UK. It seems the only influence you will ever ever acknowledge/validate is that of US politics (and God help you). Everybody else is up for any measure of disdain or scorn. Let's face it: You have the most ludicrous upper chamber on the Continent. And the House of Commons look like it's full of the hooligans which have deserted football pitches of late. But God forbid you'd take inspiration from other democracies (Scandinavians did away with their upper chambers altogether and Italy has now a 100-member senate). It does look like a political class clinging to any kind of perks it can manage and convincing the unsuspecting electorate they must uphold truly "British" institutions for the country to thrive in the future. It doesn't look good.
Starter has to win the election so he is trying not to rock the boat. I remember being terribly disappointed by Blair. I hope Starmer is not just another Tory.
I think they'r all closet Tory's
“Low quality chocolate.” Oh deeuh daahling! Is it not a petch on the wan et Fortnums?
Oh get lost.
Yes, only the best for her. Gawd bless you ma'am.
VIVA BORIS VIVA NATANIAHU. HE DID YOU UK PEOPLE THE GREATES SERVIC BY LEAVING BREXIT . IF YOU KNOW HOW MUCH ROBER UN. BORIS SAVED UK.
I am not concerned by the hysteria the press and plotters whipped up. You could find lies about Starmer if the press wanted you to be swayed. But I do not think Boris is PM material and that is what his party recognised. Neither do Tory voters think him conservative enough.
Boris Johnson won't be finished until there aren't anymore videos titled, "Boris Johnson is finished"
If Russia and Ukraine come to a peace agreement, then it is not beyond imagination to think that Ukraine will be an enemy of the UK because of how the UK led Ukraine in a war with it’s neighbour and cousins and who was the prime motivator in backing Zelensky and Company?
Boris Johnson…
Hello Boris, how's the weather in Moscow today?
Everyone's favourite ghoul...
Noooooo, bring him back🤡🤡🤡🤡
Mandelson fully supported Blair's war criminality. And still does.
First 6 minutes total waste of time
Boring chatter
The volatility of the electorate reflects the fact we still have too many establishmentarians in parliament and the voter is shopping for something not there! Someone relatable and knowledgeable of the fact most British people are skint and the political class don’t believe it. Total disconnect.. still!
This discussion highlights the disconnect with modern politics and the voter. Boris Johnson is just a parody of the nothingness of Blair etc. Yet, the talkings head spend most of the time congratulating themselves of how great Blair, Cameron etc were.
It is more simple than that - Boris was brought down quite deliberately by the Left-wing within Government (in the form of the Privileges Committee (headed by the Leftie Harriet Hartman). He was Right-wing and believed in Brexit -so, he had to go - that’s it: however else it is presented, that is the truth of the matter!
Not quite: he'd already been dumped as PM by his own ministers resigning en masse. Not a 'leftie' among them.
Oh, the level of misrepresentation present in that comment is staggering beyond belief. Boris Johnson resigned as PM because 56 members of his cabinet and ancilliary staff, including Rishi Sunak, resigned over the lies Boris Johnson told about the Pincher affair. In case you have forgotten, on four consecutive days No. 10 sent a different MP out to apologise for the lie from the previous day, and then tell a different lie on behalf of Boris. The Priviledges Committee had nothing to do with his resignation as PM, but they did have a great deal to do with his resignation as an MP, as they should, he lied about Partygate in Parliament, repeatedly.
Boris is like superman..
A suspicious alien who bears false promises and embodies ‘ubermensch’ far right ideals. Yes, maybe🤣🤣🤣 (kidding )
Can't keep his trousers on? Lol
Good good 👍
Mandelson is a awful bore and the rest are just BORING!
If you have such a bad time you aren't forced to endure it
@@ferni... You have to listen to find it Boring much like your reply!
I don't like Boris Johnson. But he was democratically voted in by the public and then the political establishments got rid of him without permission from the public
No - he chose not to re-run in the by election because he is a coward
No poppet. Mr Johnson resigned his seat having been found to have lied to The House and having been suspended for doing so.
If Mr, Johnson had the figurative guts to match his ample physical ones, he could have offered himself for re-election by his constituents.
But he didn’t: Mr. Johnson got rid of himself.
Pip pip.
@@robertcottam8824Just the same as beer gate Starmer then. Bye bye
The problem is our governance by party.
The public vote for the party, not for who the leader is. If the public voted for Johnson and not the party then they didn't understand how we vote in this country. The PARTY was voted in to govern, with Johnson as leader. The party had every right to remove him as leader without the public's consent.
Voted in on Lies and Deceit. We are well rid!. 🇬🇧✌👍
Polly MacKenzie - 501 votes short in 2006 local election
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lambeth_London_Borough_Council_election#Stockwell
He should be behind Bars ......