Very interesting. What I was an 18 year old conscript in South Africa in 1987 I operated a 510 which was used as a forklift. A lot of fun for a kid straight out of high school. We pushed rail cars with it and unloaded them in an auction center for unserviceable military equipment. I had no idea the history was so complex. I might try to acquire one, or both of those books.
The most accurate narrative I've heard the fate of payline division. Well done. My late Father was a large user International equipment here in South West Oz. Starting with the TD18A All series of TD20s He was the first in OZ to purchase aTD20E in OZ. Right through 25Bs Cs and 25Es. Even had a rare TD15C LGP. There is only a few left in the construction industry who remember their innovative designs and many industry firsts. The last of PH BROWN BULLDOZING. RIP DAD
We have a local excavator who still has his first IH backhoe, and his first IH trackhoe(Yumbo). Almost fifty years old and still working! MTD=Made To Die. Melrose Park/Libertyville plants have been torn down. Great job on the video! IH forever!
Very good job.A lot of people think JI Case bought the ag line which is not true,Case had gone bankrupt in the 60s and went through a couple of hands before Tenneco bought them.When IH ag was acquired,Tenneco merged the 2 lines to become Case-IH.
Great & interesting video presentation of the history of IH heavy equipment! It seems IH's designs remained fundamental for years to the machines produced by the companies that later purchased IH's product lines.
The TD15's had gas start diesels I actually had an opportunity to operate it when I was a kid. I knew a person who worked for MTD and he called it Machinery Tool and Die. You also didn't mention the logging skidders they made. I had a friend who owned one. Thanks for the interesting video! I dld learn a lot of things!
Very well done and exhaustive - I worked for IH when the Ag and Payline Groups became the Equipment Group for one year (1981-82). Front axles for 2+2 Farmall tractors was Kimco not 84 series which used ZF front axles. Did not know the final dispostion on the Polish Chinese buyout - thanks for update - keep up the good work.
I can't count all the different International heavy trucks, medium trucks, buses, pickups, agriculture tractors, industrial engines, backhoes, dozers, & loaders that I've owned in the past 50 years.. I still have most of them..🥃😎👌
Thank you for the international history on construction equipment lines. I own a 1978 Dynahoe-190, Bucyrus Erie bought that line from Hough, continued on production till B.E. got out of the construction line in the 1980s, and just stuck with big mining equipment. In the late 1970s I ran 125 & 175 International track Loaders, they had the best security lock up system of all manufacturers in my Humble opinion. I ran a rubber tires International backhoe one time, it was a very unique control level system for backhoe with two levers on each side of the seat. It was hard getting used to the front drive with the pedal control of your two gears, half push was low, full push was higher speed. I always was impressed with their track dozer loader line, very heavy duty built.
Grew Up On Hough Equipment My Dad Was A Foreman For Bihlman CTC In Northwest Indiana They Had Investments In IH And Had A Fleet Of Hough Equipment. I Learned How To Run Equipment On A D120 And 500 Houghs And Also Dad Worked For Dyer Construction Dyer IND They Had A Fleet Of 500s With V16 Jimmys I Ran Them As Well In My Later Years. Dad And I Also Owned A E200 I Loved That Scraper Never Had A Problem With It. And Also Dad Was Also Doing Work In Old Wisconsin Steel And The IH Hough Plants In The Chicago Area Got To See The Old Ore Boats The Harvester And International Many Times Thanks And Very Awesome Vid
Very well done. IH rode a lot of highs and lows. I think the biggest blunder was hiring McCardel in ‘77. Never understood why Brooks McCormick thought that was a good idea. And then the decision not declare chapter 11 in ‘85. I suppose it’s easy to be an arm chair qb with hindsight today. Still sad.
Thank you about history int.haverster.the problems with heavy equipment was parts i work for dealer calgary alberta and was parts take too long show up.td-40 was testing coal mines se bc canada but marketing was not there sad.the 555 560 580 same thing yes parts again.the dealer sold lots dresser loader but was time get parts many client return to cat or johndeere most them.the history expose bad planning r&d,dealer,marketing,client support.thank you expose this😮
dont forget the odd ball line of the rubber tire bacho the international harvester green line . the yellow was the hevey line the green was the medium and red was age
The Payline book is out of print, so ebay is your best bet. Here is a link for the other, it's still in print. www.superscoutspecialists.com/international-harvester-hough-and-dresser-construction-and-industrial-machines-book
@@ButchE30M3S14 Oh wow! If you want to find original manuals for it, paper or download manuals are available from www.jensales.com just search for International 150, TD-9B is the same but as a bulldozer. A good forum to ask questions on is www.redpowermagazine.com. I am on there a lot in the construction equipment section.
@@e.d.s.schroeder4 not specifically, but Machinery Trader has a list of machines that have been dismantled for parts by make and model. Looks like Schaefer Enterprises in Illinois has parted out a few, and Redding Equipment in Montana has dismantled one a couple years ago. My search by part number did not find any NOS.
IHC trying to go head to head with cat was a mistake, they didn't have the money to do so, especially when they had too many markets/divisions to fund! Ihc was a jack of all trades, but a master of none!
Very interesting. What I was an 18 year old conscript in South Africa in 1987 I operated a 510 which was used as a forklift. A lot of fun for a kid straight out of high school. We pushed rail cars with it and unloaded them in an auction center for unserviceable military equipment. I had no idea the history was so complex. I might try to acquire one, or both of those books.
The most accurate narrative I've heard the fate of payline division. Well done. My late Father was a large user International equipment here in South West Oz. Starting with the TD18A All series of TD20s He was the first in OZ to purchase aTD20E in OZ. Right through 25Bs Cs and 25Es. Even had a rare TD15C LGP. There is only a few left in the construction industry who remember their innovative designs and many industry firsts. The last of PH BROWN BULLDOZING. RIP DAD
Great job on the history!
Thanks for telling this great story! IH construction equipment was and still is great machinery!
We have a local excavator who still has his first IH backhoe, and his first IH trackhoe(Yumbo). Almost fifty years old and still working! MTD=Made To Die. Melrose Park/Libertyville plants have been torn down. Great job on the video! IH forever!
Very good job.A lot of people think JI Case bought the ag line which is not true,Case had gone bankrupt in the 60s and went through a couple of hands before Tenneco bought them.When IH ag was acquired,Tenneco merged the 2 lines to become Case-IH.
Never heard that JI Case went bankrupt, IHC went bankrupt in the 80’s and split up in 4 divisions and were sold.
That was really interesting!!..I love International/Dresser/Dressta equipment!!
Good equipment. Well-known dozers and wheel loaders. Good job!
Great Video!
Great & interesting video presentation of the history of IH heavy equipment!
It seems IH's designs remained fundamental for years to the machines produced by the companies that later purchased IH's product lines.
Outstanding Video! Very well spoken and you did IH Construction proud!
Wow what a history. As a kid i was around a lot of ih hough and payhauler. Always wondered what happened. Also remember when dresser got involved.
Excellent video! You can look at their equipment and tell they were really built to last!
The TD15's had gas start diesels I actually had an opportunity to operate it when I was a kid. I knew a person who worked for MTD and he called it Machinery Tool and Die. You also didn't mention the logging skidders they made. I had a friend who owned one. Thanks for the interesting video! I dld learn a lot of things!
Thanks for putting the story together.
Awesome, complex, history👏
I have two hough 60’s almost bought a third this spring. I love that old iron.
Very well done and exhaustive - I worked for IH when the Ag and Payline Groups became the Equipment Group for one year (1981-82). Front axles for 2+2 Farmall tractors was Kimco not 84 series which used ZF front axles. Did not know the final dispostion on the Polish Chinese buyout - thanks for update - keep up the good work.
Great video man! We both share the same passion for IH!! Great job!!
I can't count all the different International heavy trucks, medium trucks, buses, pickups, agriculture tractors, industrial engines, backhoes, dozers, & loaders that I've owned in the past 50 years.. I still have most of them..🥃😎👌
Thank you for the international history on construction equipment lines. I own a 1978 Dynahoe-190, Bucyrus Erie bought that line from Hough, continued on production till B.E. got out of the construction line in the 1980s, and just stuck with big mining equipment. In the late 1970s I ran 125 & 175 International track Loaders, they had the best security lock up system of all manufacturers in my Humble opinion. I ran a rubber tires International backhoe one time, it was a very unique control level system for backhoe with two levers on each side of the seat. It was hard getting used to the front drive with the pedal control of your two gears, half push was low, full push was higher speed. I always was impressed with their track dozer loader line, very heavy duty built.
Grew Up On Hough Equipment My Dad Was A Foreman For Bihlman CTC In Northwest Indiana They Had Investments In IH And Had A Fleet Of Hough Equipment. I Learned How To Run Equipment On A D120 And 500 Houghs And Also Dad Worked For Dyer Construction Dyer IND They Had A Fleet Of 500s With V16 Jimmys I Ran Them As Well In My Later Years. Dad And I Also Owned A E200 I Loved That Scraper Never Had A Problem With It. And Also Dad Was Also Doing Work In Old Wisconsin Steel And The IH Hough Plants In The Chicago Area Got To See The Old Ore Boats The Harvester And International Many Times Thanks And Very Awesome Vid
Wow! To have gotten to see all that back then! So cool!
Thanks!
My grandfather had a Hough 120 from the early 1970's.
I love those old Hough Payloaders!
Very good info thanks for sharing
Very well done.
IH rode a lot of highs and lows.
I think the biggest blunder was hiring McCardel in ‘77.
Never understood why Brooks McCormick thought that was a good idea.
And then the decision not declare chapter 11 in ‘85.
I suppose it’s easy to be an arm chair qb with hindsight today.
Still sad.
Thank you about history int.haverster.the problems with heavy equipment was parts i work for dealer calgary alberta and was parts take too long show up.td-40 was testing coal mines se bc canada but marketing was not there sad.the 555 560 580 same thing yes parts again.the dealer sold lots dresser loader but was time get parts many client return to cat or johndeere most them.the history expose bad planning r&d,dealer,marketing,client support.thank you expose this😮
Before Komatsu arrived IH was a distant #2 behind Caterpillar according to A Corporate Tragedy book by Barbara Marsh.Have both those book.
Good stuff!
dont forget the odd ball line of the rubber tire bacho the international harvester green line . the yellow was the hevey line the green was the medium and red was age
got a link to buy those books?
The Payline book is out of print, so ebay is your best bet.
Here is a link for the other, it's still in print. www.superscoutspecialists.com/international-harvester-hough-and-dresser-construction-and-industrial-machines-book
I just bought a 1967-74 IH 150-K3 but I can't find any details on it, can you guide me in the right direction? (review, expierences, flaws...) Tnx!
@ButchE30M3S14 was it the one that sold on Big Iron yesterday in Nebraska?
So that model 150-K3 is not the machine model but the attachment. You probably have a Drott loader on an IH TD-9B making it an IH 150B track loader.
@@deserttrucktractor2514 Haha I bought it in Belgium so I don't think it flew to Nebraska overnight :-) It doesnt have a 4 in 1 bucket though
@@ButchE30M3S14 Oh wow! If you want to find original manuals for it, paper or download manuals are available from www.jensales.com just search for International 150, TD-9B is the same but as a bulldozer. A good forum to ask questions on is www.redpowermagazine.com. I am on there a lot in the construction equipment section.
Does anyone know where we could find a engine oil dipstick for 510 international wheel loader , Has D268 engine
@@e.d.s.schroeder4 not specifically, but Machinery Trader has a list of machines that have been dismantled for parts by make and model. Looks like Schaefer Enterprises in Illinois has parted out a few, and Redding Equipment in Montana has dismantled one a couple years ago. My search by part number did not find any NOS.
Okay Thank You !!
IHC trying to go head to head with cat was a mistake, they didn't have the money to do so, especially when they had too many markets/divisions to fund! Ihc was a jack of all trades, but a master of none!
It is not huff its H.O u g h