Hii this was my first time watching your videos and its actually interesting. I actually enjoyed it even though tyra makes me mad. This is just not ok.
I would of loved to see that instead too. I think most of America would have. But you know what they say, If it's offend someone then they're talking about it, and good publicity or bad publicity it's publicity. ANTM is all about the views and who's talking about them
Yeah pretty sure they ended up doing that in later seasons. Maybe because of the controversy, I dunno. I would have loved to see a bunch of different cultures being represented.
it depends on their personal story. maybe some of them do not consider themselves as anything but american. maybe they don't have a clue about their own heritage. maybe they grew up without their parents etc. i mean there are so many reasons why did not. but what they did instead is not better though
Tyra is really just throwing around the words “race” “ethnicity” and “nationality” in a very interchangeable way, and they’re all different meanings 😅.
What is the difference between race and ethnicity? Honestly, I don’t think I know ( I don’t mean this in a rude way I’m genuinely asking because I want to know the answer and don’t wanna accidentally offend someone)
@@EternalPhoenix Race is a broader term like Hispanic or Asian, whereas ethnicity is narrow and cultural based. For example a person could be Hispanic and have indigenous ancestors from Mexico whereas a Hispanic person from Peru would probably have different indigenous ancestors.
@@soxpeewee are you sure you know what you talking about? Race is not broader but nationality is. What you was explaining for ethnicity not race is correct but race is not broader. In fact calling someone Hispanics or Asian is same as calling someone American. Hispanic and Asian is broad but it is not race. They both not the same thing meaning wise either aka… the ones they call Asian is because of a certain region they lived in. The ones they call Hispanics are for all those whose “original” language is Spanish in which ALL are HIGHLY different cultures aka… Depending on the country some are south western mixed with the European Spaniards that colonized their island some are the original ppl of an island mixed with the European Spaniards that colonized their island And some are original ppl of the island mixed with pure Africans that was bought into their island by the European Spaniards that colonized their island for the purpose of slavery. And some Hispanics are pure Africans mixed with European Spaniards or mixed with the original ppl of the island the evil European Spaniards forced them into for the evil purpose of slavery. And btw indigenous means true Natives of a certain land aka the original ppl of a certain country. Noticed I placed “original” in quotes… that’s because every country besides Spain in Europe that speaks Spanish as their “original” WAS NOT their original language. Just like the European came to colonize America and forced all the Africans that they brung into America and all the natives of America and whoever else entering America to adapt and only learn speak and teach the English language the European Spaniards ALSO did the same to all the island inhabitants that they colonized… (well they are Europeans aka European does as European does) all those islands they took over THEY ALL HAD THEIR OWN original language AND IT WAS NOT SPANISH these evil racist European Spaniards forced the inhabitants of all the islands they colonized and all the Africans they abducted from African for the evil purpose of slavery into them to only learn speak and teach Spanish else they were tortured and or killed. So all the islands like Mexico, Cuba, Puertorico, Santo Domingo, Panamania and so on they all had their own separate language and it was not Spanish. It became Spanish by force by these evil racist Europeans. These islands are so mixed now BECAUSE of the racist European colonizers from Spain that calling someone Cuban, Puertorican, Dominicans, Nicaraguan, Peruvians and so on is like calling ppl born and raised in America Americans IT IS NOT THEIR RACE it’s just their nationality aka of where they born and or raised at.
As a Greek person, no, we are not called Grecian, Tyra. We're Greek. And no, nobody walks around with a golden olive branch headpiece to go grocery shopping, I'm literally screAMING
@@frappoGarcia it was sad, Mexican culture has some much more to offer, yet they couldn't be further away from it with this cultural monstrosity they created.
While this is not exactly like the blackface as it used to be done, and while I think it wasn't used for the same purpose or to make fun of...this still counts as blackface. And while I have seen blackface used incorrectly a lot this isn't one of those times.
I would love to have a serious documentary where Tyra has to explain why she came up with these concepts. I would watch the entire thing. Especially if the host was having no nonsense. "so what inspired you to insult all these cultures?" "Well it's not really insulting-" "Tyra. Are you about to tell me you don't know what blackface is?"
Yes! Have her interviewed by Tara Brown, the Australian reporter from 60 minutes who did that savage interview with that lady who faked Cancer. She holds no prisoners.
And people didn't talk about it nearly as much as they should have purely because Tyra is black. Having her shoot this one was a tactic. People are waaay less likely to call out racially offensive behavior when it's a person of color doing it. That's just a fact, but at least we are making some progress on that now.
@@Lindseyisloony That is not a fact. People knew something was not right, but now we have a better understanding of how to respect cultures, ethnicities, and history by letting people be themselves without judgement. It ain't perfect, but far more open than it was back in 2010.
@@Lindseyisloony or maybe because social media wasn’t like it is today also I watched antm and I don’t remember this episode maybe I missed it or my 12-13 year old mind didn’t comprehend what was going on
“Jennifer was a mess. I was uninspired.” Tyra. You put this model in blackface then call her a mess. Idk what this was even supposed to accomplish for these girls.
Looking back, I think all these stunts were just various degrees of torture. But seriously, Jay even said something about how emotions would show on her face.
THANK YOU!! This video (the ANTM) was so disgusting to watch. I feel bad she had to go through the whole thing. I’m shocked Tyra still had a career after all this sh*t. She put all these girls in blackface without teaching them the cultures yet expects them to get into character? Disgusting.
They sad part is, if someone spoke up and said that they weren’t comfortable doing this shoot, they would get points deducted, yelled at and probably kicked off
Yeah but dont those women can think?! even before they get into the show, its clear that they'll have to do stupid things, things they dont like, etc. I dont like shows like this. They are from the beginning on completly messed up
As someone from Hawai’i the sugar cane industry was pretty wack and owned by primarily white business men who tried to keep different ethnic groups segregated so they didn’t protest their pay and working conditions. There’s a really huge history associated with it, that goes beyond “they came here for jobs and then had babies”.
and obama is not even hapa! LOL I thought she was gonna say The Rock or Jason Momoa (if Jason was around at that time which he might have been). THEY'RE hapas LOL.
I was so confused by Tyra's speech at the beginning, like... How little research did they do? The Suga Caine industry was awful and ab*sive to its employees. It wasn't some nice little get together where everyone had a nice time. People suffered and now they're further disrespecting that legacy with blackface??? Who approved this? How are you that ignorant?
Never mind what was done to the Indigenous people in Hawaii when the sugar cane industry was started there. I guess screw the people who were murdered/enslaved/abused though. The indigenous people in “America” just moved to make space for the illeg... conqu... invad... explorers😒🙄
THANK YOU. That part infuriated me so much. That was the most whitewashed, polished, inaccurate description of the sugar cane industry i have ever heard. This whole photoshoot was so disrespectful from beginning to end
In the Netherlands they have Hollands Next Top Model and Nigel is also a judge here. Its a legit modelling competion the programs basically only share the same name. In the dutch version they actually teach the contestants about the modeling world. How to pose and walk etc they even book them real jobs help them build a real portfolio and its not so weird. So for me now watching clips of the original I am soooo in shock
I’m Native American, and here’s my thoughts: disgraceful. We are not a costume. Every bead, every feather is blessed and sewn in by prayer. They are earned and to be worn with cultural pride, not to be mocked or portrayed. I don’t know how the headdress is made, but that part doesn’t matter if it’s used on a non-native American woman, period. I used to like ANTM, but that was before I grew up and realized how offensive this truly was.
I could be wrong, but aren't native american headpieces no matter from what tribes pretty much sacred and only to be worn by certain people in ceremonys today? And isn't it an insult to just wear them if you aren't given permission even if you are Native American? It's interesting because in scottish culture you aren't allowed to wear 3 eagle feathers unless you are a clan chief aswell. i found it really interesting that those two very geographically apart cultures share this. Correct me if I am wrong, I am really interested in hearing about other cultures and want to be educated on topic that I have no personal history off.
@@TemariNaraannaschatz you are correct. Back in the day, it was actually rare for Native Americans to wear large headdresses like that unless they were worn by Native American leaders, chiefs and warriors. Every single feather was earned by those whom showed immense bravery and honor, whether in battle or hunt.
@@imagecarolyn Since hunting today is illegale (illEGALE, sorry had to make that joke), are those who are still worn then passed down or do those who still get the honor to wear them have to collect them from young eagles who haven't left the nest yet?
@@TemariNaraannaschatz Headdresses are usually passed down to children, but there is actually a waiting list for fresh materials. The ones who make the headdresses and any other items need a special permit that will allow them to order any parts from an eagle. Whenever an eagle dies naturally, there's a refuge in the Rocky Mountains that accepts the remains and then distributes the feathers, bones, and claws to the ones on the waiting list. Only tribal members may obtain the permit and they can only give their creations to other tribal members. It's very strictly regulated.
@@chinadollsyndrome That makes sense given that sadly egales are endangered these days, and I love to see people keeping their traditions up like this, without any animals being harmed. Thank you so much for answering!
I feel a bit bad for all these models. There's a good chance they felt uncomfortable while it was going on, but even if they didn't at the time, and were ignorant of how offensive it was, they probably figured it out by now and regret it. Plus there's these videos and photos of themselves in black/brown face. I can't imagine that looks good on a model's resume.
Also, these poor girls who were desperate to get their footing in the model industry, now have to be ready at all times for if they suddenly become relevant again and get called out for things they were forced to do by contract
There were a couple girls talking about how they felt america's next top model actually hurt them as models and that people in the industry kind of thought it was a joke.. Which I can kind of see and really is unfortunate. they thought they were doing something to kickstart a career.. And they're just being berated in blackface and being blackballed from the industry.
I've always kind of wondered what the models' actual reaction to this photoshoot was, instead of what was edited for the show. It seems like at least a few of them would've been uncomfortable. Mr. Jay said that he thought Tyra was out of her mind for doing this.
lol yea it's like they missed the memo that greece is in EUROPE and "Hispanic" is way to general and a bunch of different races, and mixes of ethnicities
Idk Mexican isn't a race I really don't know why that they keep saying its a race, like I'm Mexican and I'm really light, almost all my family is darker, I have Asia-mexican friends also black Mexicans and that's not even mentioning that they only say Mexican not even Latin America
So can Native American people. I myself am fairly light skinned, even though both of my parents are quite dark. Skin tone doesn’t always equate ethnicity/race. But what else do we expect from ANTM?
Because they're not trying to learn anything from any of those cultures 😒. The "Mexican" dress was not Mexican either, it was not even colorful, so they represented the idea of Mexico that they had on their heads, and stereotypically we are portraited with dark skin, which is true some mexicans have dark skin, but there are a lot of other skintones and ethnicities in Mexico. So they are not really representing Mexico, or Greece, or anywhere/anyone, is just a horrible jicksaw of stereotypes and cultural apropiation.
I'm starting to believe the girls who were not "feeling" this shoot knew it was wrong and were simply afraid of voicing their concerns in fear of backlash from Tyra.
I was thinking this the whole time. How are you supposed to be in a good headspace when you know you’re being “forced” (not really forced but Tyra can be really cruel if she wants to be) into something you know ONE, can cause some serious backlash down the line... TWO, is offensive to so many cultures... and THREE, you’re not even getting to be yourself they are literally changing your ethnicity.
@@hildaaceves7483 Exactly...so wtf. How can anyone 'look' mexican? She doesn't even look like mexican indigenous people if that was the aim. I'm so confused too.
Not only is the “Native American” dress offensive because it’s turning a culture into a costume. It’s lazy. There are thousands and thousands of tribes and they each have their own culture and fashion/clothing which is rooted in where they are from geologically. The Hopi are going to have different dress from the Osage, who are going to look different from the Karuk, who have a completely different style from Tlingit or Haida. It’s offensive and it’s so lazy. I’m sure the Indian style dress is the exact same where it’s a vast geographic region with multiple cultures but one stereotype keeps being used.
@@marx-e oh, so we can be called a "distraction" or told to "go back to the rez"? Colonizer, please. Think before you talk 💩, you might think you did something here, but you just sound so ignorant.
exactly!! it’s like they picked the ONLY thing the know from the Native American culture. LITERALLY this was for war. and all tribes are different. there’s no reason to have them all stereotyped the EXACT SAME??? if she wanted someone to look Native American (bc that sure tf did NOT) GET SOMEONE FROM THE CULTURE. have the girls do who they are and plan ahead. there’s no reason to make someone something they aren’t. it’s offensive to the race/culture and ALSO to those poor girls.
You do realize that Hawaii was made into a U.S territory nearly 40 years after slavery was officially abolished. Can we not equivocate every brown person as being slaves? Can we not? Is it possible?
It's not slavery in the " steal the brown people" but slavery in the human trafficking sense. They still died, lived and worked horrible conditions, and were separated from their families and cultures. It's slavery just not in the way my ancestors were enslaved.
@@geekfreak2000 They . . Migrated . . .by choice . . . For the jobs that were there. Do you think working class people are just these paper dolls that have every single choice made for them, and they have no agency? Is this how you see yourself? That isn't healthy.
Scape Goat Initially, countries sent contract workers to Hawai’i, but few workers actually finished their contracts and many fled to the mainland. This was because the contracts allowed plantation overseers to punish the workers if they were not satisfied, and this fell into the contract conditions. “On June 14, 1900 Hawai‘i became a territory of the United States. This had no immediate effect on the workers pay, hours and conditions of employment, except in two respects. The labor contracts became illegal because they violated the U.S. Constitution which prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude.” (Center for Labor Education & Research University of Hawai‘i - West O‘ahu)
@@Geminilion100 I don't think it was like that. (Insert from the history of labour in Hawai'i - University of Hawaii system) The Royal Hawaiian Agricultural Society organized to protect the interests of the plantation owners and to secure their supply of and control over cheap field labour. The first group of Chinese recruited came under five-year contracts at $3.00 a month plus passage, food, clothing and a house. An advance of $6 was made in China to be refunded in small instalments. From the beginning there was a deliberate policy of separation of the races, pitting one against the other as a goal to get more production out of them. The President of the Agricultural Society, Judge Wm. Lee, advised the planters in these words: To all those planters who can afford it, I would say, procure as many labourers as you can, and work them by themselves, as far as possible separate from the natives, and you will find that, if well managed, their example will have a stimulating effect upon the Hawaiian, who is naturally jealous of the coolie and ambitious to outdo him."6 The backbreaking work was 26 days a month and 10 or more hours per day. Fierce overseers, known as Luna, rode on horses carrying whips which they were not hesitant to use on the workers. The planters were determined to obtain and hold a "stable" labour force, and in this, the planters had the assistance of the law (I am not a person of Hawaiian culture so I decided not to alter it so to reduce any misconceptions I may have)
Well in Hawaii they were paid so they did come here for jobs. They were not brought here by force. They were also given a place to live. They lived in communities each their own. Japanese, Portuguese, Puerto Rican, etc...
I think that was a post slavery era where slavery was illegal (but people were still doing it). So without slavery they needed people to work the fields and the immigrants were just the ticket to be exploited. Exploited as in underpaid.
@@yleniamayen I just want to make sure, but you don’t happen to be talking about “coolie” labor, in which (typically Asian) people were often kidnapped/tricked into signing false or misleading contracts, regularly abused with significant mortality rates, charged for the transportation/basic life necessities beyond what they could realistically pay for (exceedingly low compared to the rest of the country, even in similar areas of work), and for which there’s significant relation/similarities to formal slavery... right?
I'm Native (Navajo/Diné) and I think the head dress is really sad 😔 not only are head dresses typically reserved for male leaders, but every feather has to be earned. And even then Indian Country is 573+ nations, all with diffrent cultures. It's really sad to see us limited to just the plains aesthetic
As an indigenous person it’s just so sad how we’re always forgotten when it come to important issues but not for Halloween costumes. The costumes just contribute to stereotypes and it’s so sad to see how many cultures and ethnicities they stereotyped.
Im Ojibwe and yes! We are not all plains natives, there are so many cultures within all the tribes and the only thing anyone knows is headdresses, moccasins, and dream catchers... there’s so much more than that
I was about to say the same thing, I'm not native but I studied a lot about the culture, and it is so sad and offensive to see them represented like this. No Respect at all.
Thank you 👏👏👏 As someone who lives where sugar was shipped and processed, we need to acknowledge our shameful past. While I live in a deprived area, our neighbouring city profited wildly off of the sugar trade, and our town profited from the employment. It was here where the atrocities took place. Sadly most people who live here now have no clue about their history and involvement. This is the sort of thing that should be taught in school.
If you wanted to do this subject justice they could have photographed the girls with smashed hands, sunburned, whip wounds, and missing fingers. If you wanna take photos in a sugar cane field and talk about race then show justice and respect instead of being disrespectful.
Not sure how old you are but if you did your research, you would know that people willingly moved to the US and UK for work. Not only that people moved to India and Africa to start businesses. It wasn't just slavery.
As Russian I was fine with that hat and dress it was ok, but my Bear was very disappointed, he couldn't believe they did that, he even refuse drink any vodka today, he just run away in the woods, and I'm little worried, he even didn't take his Ak 47 with him...
@@vayermenoviko0linixDoh, yes, thank you for your concern, yes, my Babushka brought him home yesterday with piroshki and borsch, and today Bear and I ready for our balalaika concert in Chernobyl.
Becasue in 2000s we weren't so PC and scared to offend one another. But she is a black women so it's OK. If this was s white woman then the Woke SJWs would want her head!!!
Yeah!! And if they ever questioned what they were doing, whoever was in charge of it would pressure them and tell them it's "part of the job" or worse smh
what is it that you're not getting about a competition? Not everyone can be a winner. And the show has proven that you don't have to win to be able to start a career.
@@vsfs.compendium This comment wasn't about it being a competition, or that people lost, but on how the show treated its contestants DURING the competition, win or lose, that no matter what the girls would have to have a very independent, aware, and critical understanding of what was happening not to be affected personally by all the things said and done to them. As commented in the video- it was somehow ALWAYS the girls' fault. NEVER the show's obviously and the girls could never really defend themselves in that kind of set-up. When you add editing and cuts that will cut out any provocation from the show's side, but possibly edit for drama, the girls are not in an enviable position.
What we learned from this episode: even as a person of colour herself, Tyra is blind and deaf to whatever this is and they also think every person of colour has the same exact red toned brown skin 🙄 I guess at the previous shoot they mixed 1000 litres of the same paint and they had to do offensive shoots with brownface until they finally ran out 🙄🙄🙄 On a good note it was lovely to hear you speak Arabic, even if it was just a few words and sentences. Such a nice language! 😊
The skin tones really got me 😬 as a WOC Tyra should have known that POC come in many different shades and tones. Like girl what the hell were you thinking 🤦🏻♀️
I was so annoyed that the show was almost fetishizing mixed people, and just handing out races and skin tones to people who have not had to deal with the hardship of that appearance. It's almost as if these models were so excited because they got to dress up for a day, and be "exotic" without knowing the history behind these ethnicities.
I think for the models they were most likely expected to show they are excited as they are on a reality tv show. They might have not known much about the ethnicities they were asked to represent but I'm sure they all realized how wrong and disrespectful this challenge was. That is why you can see how uninspired and uncomfortable most of them looked. I put all the blame on the show authorities. They should've known better. What boggles me the most is how tone deaf and insensitive Tyra is, considering she herself is a POC
Fax they were so obsessed with changing the models hair, eyes, and skin colors and literally modifying them into a whole different race BUT they never got actual models who were that race 😭
My favorite part is when they said "eagles soar" and they did what movies always did and play a red-tailed hawk call 😂... man I work in wildlife conservation and this even insulted the birds 🤣
I rolled my eyes so hard I have a slight headache now. I mean how...? I'm not even the most PC:iest person, I bet I could benefit from learning more about cultures and appreciation/appropriation but even I know this is so fucked up how come nobody in that show said anything? Everyone just thought that was okay? I can't.
I'm tired of the "east Indian" Tag, there's only one India and people who have ancestry from the subcontinent have the right to be referred to as "Indian".I can completely understand how native Americans feel when they're referred to as " Indians" or "American Indians". The only true " American Indians" are Indian diaspora who hold American citizenship. It's not rocket science, honestly
@@mem2bam Well there is a very big difference between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. Cultural appreciation is when someone seeks to understand and learn about another culture in an effort to broaden their perspective and connect with others cross-culturally, and end up wearing part pf their fashion, agreat example of this is "Avatar: The last Airbender", whixh studied all about asian culture to understand it correctly and be able to translate it to TV. Appropriation on the other hand, is simply taking one aspect of a culture that is not your own and using it for your own personal interest, like what Tyra is doing, she doesn't know or care about the cultures she is supposed to be representing, she just did this because she wanted and she could. Hope I solved your doubts
They had such diverse looking models, they could’ve played up the models’ heritage and done a great job but nooooo no no let’s impersonate other cultures and RACES! Jeez
So they had the sense not to lighten the skin of Sundai, but felt it was appropriate to paint the other girls in blackface? Also the nerve of Tyra to claim to be knowledgeable about any of these cultures when the costumes were the most shallow and superficial representations of cultures 🥴 also I'm getting major deja vu from the "East Indian" girl from the previous race swap shoot.
Tyra thinks she's an expert in everything. I really love the location of this shoot and I'm mad that they ruined it with all the cultural appropriation.
😅 actually they Totally lighten my skin but the MUA’s make up was so bad for some old reason the oils in my skin just sucked it up and I ended up looking just slightly ashy
Also there were like 3 different shades to represent 6 people/12 "races"... -the red-brownish color (used for most of them) -something that seemed like they mixed the red-brownish color with some white color to make it lighter -one naturally black girl without changed skin color Yeah, sure, you are a well traveled world-famous model and don't even realize that people aren't just "black" or "not black"? Even in just the US you can see a huge difference between the skin colors of people considered to be "black". Then they also added ethnicities with olive tones in their natural skin color, different light yellow-ish shades (which are really hard to mix just as a color even if you just want to paint e. g. a japanese person without making them look like a superficial simpson-colored version of asians seen through the eyes of white people a few decades ago), different kinds of whites, various versions of brown etc. I feel like they tried to cope their mess-up with the skin tones through mixing ethnicities that could lead to almost every skin color as an outcome but even if one wants to look at this mess through that perspective: They failed miserably. Anyways, if they would've gotten the color palette right it would still not be ok soooo... But at least you would've seen that they put a teeny tiny bit of thought into it or smthg I guess
Yeah like the 2 giels repressenting tibet/egypt and greece/mexico what was the point of painting them that dark and orange? Many people from Greece as example have fairly light skin and same someone from Mexico can have light skin too. That they pretty much put everyone in black face made me even angrier about this photoshoot as it was so unnessesary, like Tyra thought the photoshoot wasn't offensive and ignorant enough already.
I'm so glad I only had to contend with being a quarter Greek. I don't know if I'd be able to watch even this breakdown if I had to deal with another of my ancestries being insulted.
As a mexican, I can say they did literally no effort to represent mexican culture. They could at least have her wearing some traditional dress idk, or something with colorful flowers
And the word "exotic," like Hawaii is part of the USA, and these people would still be American, not like some foreign doll that you admire. Exotic is often used to talk about things form far away, often in places that don't have a large population, like exotic fruit. But not people.
You made it sounds like being wild and barbaric is a bad thing 😑. My ancestors are wild, hold spear, ride an elephant, and they are super cool doing all of these. How is being wild and barbaric, a bad thing? I think it is super cool because that is what they are 😎
@@andromedamessier3176 Because portraying people of colour as being barbaric and dangerous has been propaganda that has been spread for years to justify the racism and oppression those minorities have faced. The colonisers demonized the natives , that yes DID use spears and bows in battle , so that the taking of their land and the brutality of their people could be justified.
@@the_spit_on_grandmas_flabb5379 lol sorry I’m laughing so hard because it’s the first time I heard something like this “propaganda.” Sure compare those spear to the colonizer gun and tank, we are just a tiny speck. That is why we lost so easily. We even trade our treasure for some of those guns too. The only propaganda I see here is that you believe holding spear being wild and barbaric is very degrading. That is why you shouldn’t call them that. How is that any different than the propaganda of being wild and barbaric is bad, so we should invade them. You see how similar it is. To me I’m proud of my ancestors way of life and history. We’re wild, barbaric. We hunt live together. We went on to build temple.
That's what I was thinking too, but no they needed to throw in at least one ethnicity per girl that would give them an excuse to put them all in blackface 🙄
This episode was wild, they set out to mock every group they could. None of the models needed to be darkened to get this shoot done. Meaning some producer signed off knowing they didn’t have to darken anyone they just wanted to play in dark makeup for shock value.
Or give people "cultures" that are closer to their own? I cosplay, and like, one or two shades darker or lighter isn't that bad, but deliberately making someone who is light skinned and blonde, into someone dark skinned with black hair, is the kind of thing that people have been banned from cosplay events for. It's really sad that this kind of thing was on TV. Like did they stop teaching about slavery and minstrels and that kind of racism based around blackface?
That was exactly my first thought. Do they think, that everybody else are riding horses, using sticks and wearing 200 years ago outdated traditional dresses?
@@vivienkoles1880 seriously, im greek and that is not even our traditional clothing. Those kind of clothes existed more than 2000 years ago and only very rich people or royals had them
@@anastasiakk6979 Yeah, as a person who is reading history, does research for fun and watches videos abt clothes in olden times and watching designers make clothes from a different century and country, I was high-key confused. This just shows how the designers didn't even do proper research and just added the most stereotypical things they could!
@@chrissy3875 Yeah, non natives, but as a native person I typically see blonde white women using native headdresses as a fashion decision. Non natives in general shouldn't use our cultures as a fashion piece or gimmick.
@@nellienelson9415 I'm aware of that, but it doesn't get rid of how like. Awful and racist it is. It's not her fault and I'm not blaming her for it. The whole "white people stop" thing was meant to be a generalized statement, not specifically about her.
Its not even just stereotypes, theyre using ceremonial pieces that have to be awarded by the tribes people or the chief and they basically went Halloween with it. Disgusting.
definitely not a chippewa, we don’t claim her edit: i should clarify, none of us claim this representation of native tribes, the model herself is not 100% at fault here
I actually feel YOUR comment is racist. You don’t complain when they lighten up a dark skin for the movies which they do ALLLLL the time so why is it bad now? NOW that it’s the other way around
After all these atrocities, as a European I feel a little left out! I was waiting for them to bring some wall paint and just brushed a poor model white, put her on a toga and throw a spanish peineta at her with some Ikea furniture in the background 👀
Exactly what I was going to say, there is beauty in all cultures and as "well traveled" as Tyra portrays herself to be, this shoot made her look as uncultured and ignorant as they come.
This is weird, but i just found your videos and i was binge watching during depression and I struggle with just going and showering and getting dressed nice, but we look kinda similar, and have the exact same hair, and when i see your videos and you look so nice then i am excited and motivated to get myself done up. I watch these every morning now
Im Mexican and that model that was “Mexican and Greek” had NOTHING resembling Mexican culture the dress looked like it could’ve come from any culture plus the brown and black face was just the cherry on top of this whole mess
Literally. I'm Greek and you guys have such beautiful traditional outfits for women, beautiful skirts, dresses, headpieces, and they went and put her into a blue dress that has nothing to do with your culture. We both have beautiful traditional pieces they could have used and they went and bought some Halloween decorations and a plain dress and said "well that's about right!"
Infernal Cookie RIGHT? Both cultures have beautiful uses of colors and detail in their fashion and they just put her in some raggedy tunic and some cheap costume laurel
They used a cheap-looking laurel and some weird grandma shirt. :( if they wanted Mexican they could have used one of our beautiful traditional dresses or at least a stereotypical poncho :( and they could have done something nicer to represent greece :(
@@YporquenoCOM At least they didn't use a sombrero. I feel like their makeup was a lost opportunity. I think that makeup in Mexico is very bold yet they made her look all plain. Is greek makeup plain? I wouldn't have thought so but even so it's still so plain looking. At least give her hoops or something. That shirt looked more like the kind of shirts sold at stores near beaches. That grandma boho style. I can't think of any Mexican clothes that really resemble that. They could've used more color too. Traditional Mexican is very colorful. They could've used more ribbons.
God, this is offensive not only to cultures themselves, but to people actually investing time and effort into studying them in depth and beyond plain dumb stereotypes. As an anthropologist and overall lover of the many shapes of culture this is crap. P.S. There are people wearing the olive leaf crowns in Greece - called tourists :D
Do you mind me asking what you do as an anthropologist? I took a class a couple years ago and loved it but I'm unsure of what kinds of jobs you could get in anthropology
@@cee3poh888 They should have not painted them, made them learn about other cultures, and worn more authentic clothing so it could be more of an appreciation of the beauty of culture rather than a cheap mockery of it.
@@seriousjobroluvur It really depends on the type of anthropology you have studied. In Europe it is concentrated on culture and sociology whereas in US it is more of a forensic/ physical anthropology. I'm Eastern European, so for me there were the options to concentrate of sociological analysis - you could work as a social analysist - to measure the current moods in society and help navigate politics towards it. You could work for a media and do photo anthropology. If you are more on the cultural side - you might work as a museum curator, work with minorities (which also applies to social anthr.) I have briefly worked analyzing the refugee crisis onsite in 2014. This is just a very basic example of what other anthropologists I know do. To be honest in my country context anthropology is still a pretty academic concept, so it still fights it's way up to everyday jobs. I myself - do not work in my field even though I would have loved too.
@@alitisa2786 Thank you so much for the info! I'm in the US and the class I took mainly just talked about indigenous cultures and tribes. It was an intro course so we didn't go into too much detail. But at my university, anthropology is in the same department as sociology and criminal justice. Since I didn't take any more classes, I'm not sure which concentration the classes were geared towards. I was just wondering because the only jobs I could think of were as a professor or in a museum
It's so weird because as a kid I used to admire Tyra SO much and I thought it was so awesome and representative that she was a woman of colour but this is... blatantly racist and unsensitive
The head dress or “war bonnet” was mainly worn by men, chiefs, warriors. It was to symbolize honor and bravery. The more feathers you had the braver you were. I don’t feel like it was as much racist, as it was disrespectful. Definitely don’t agree with the shoot. There are ways to appreciate a peoples culture... this, was not it.
@@faithbrickey637 I was WAITING for someone to make this comment omg. So disrespectful. This whole shoot felt like a cringeworthy halloween costume-y mess to be honest. Nothing groundbreaking or avant-garde about it, and I'm really surprised the network allowed this to air.
Growing up in South Africa, we are taught that "black face" is a huge taboo. How can Tyra who is supposed to be representing African culture in the USA be okay with "black face" on her show.
She’s like wendy Williams I mean I am not saying what there. Doing us right but u can see where the endless oppression of black America’s has legit made some of us black America’s lose our identity Tyra , Wendy , Jersey May all be black but they all have done firm of delusions about race and white I don’t agree with what they do I kinda feel them there loss of identity to the white race .
It felt weird that every three seasons from season 3 through 12 you knew a black contestant was going to win. It felt like they wanted to have this forced diversity.
as an actual biracial person this whole thing from concept to execution is horrifying lmao also the way they set up the whole thing around being mixed and then didn't use being mixed AT ALL in any part of the actual process
Yeah, why go to Hawaii if they gonna do that? The ethnic background here is Hawaiian, Filipino, Chinese, Japanese, European and several others. We don't got Moroccan or Egyptian majorities here, this whole thing makes no sense.
@@wolvie1618 it was ~ for fashion ~ and what Tyra thought was the coolest and most "visually interesting" on camera no doubt. like yeah, these mixes could exist at some point and are valid but are not reflective of Hawaii's population or that era of immigration and slavery. she really did not care and the girls had no idea what these ethnicities and cultural backgrounds were about. her approach to the styling was also obviously whatever looks fun since she straight-up basically admitted they're doing whatever and however they want as long as it's "fashion." it was like Tyra playing dress up with her dolls.
Did she really called us grecian? And the head piece thingy screams "i only know greek culture from percy jackson" like jesus christ u cant boil us down to a leave crown
honestly im not even greek and... it’s like they looked at one statue of a Greek god from lord knows how long ago and said ‘no yeah i think that sums up the entire culture enough’
if I'm being honest this photo shoot that they did is a prime example of cultural appropriation and stereotypes and is not even in the least bit tasteful I'm surprised that it's still allowed to be aired at all let alone showcased. Unfortunately this is still a common practice in the fashion industry which shocks me because I would always pick somebody who is actually that ethnicity versus appropriating an image in race on to somebody else.
Apparently paying models that are of the correct ethnicity or race is more expensive than to just get someone to appropriate the culture or ethnicity which makes 0 senses to me
I'm Native American. I have a lot to say on the topic.. but I'll keep it short. I think there's a lot of natives out there who don't live on reservations and are raised to reject being native and who aren't taught anything about their culture or history. I'm one of those people. This just felt like a kick to the chest. There's always a deep sense of wondering who you are and where you fit in. Even if you reject the beliefs you should still know what you come from.
I was so confused because I'm Mexican and the outfit didn't seem Mexican at all and I hate how they immediately made the girl dark when not all Mexicans are dark. My mom is lighter skinned while my dad is dark and that made me a middle ground.
Indeed, we are more like a lighter brown cinnamon skin tone and they painted laura with mud, the only thing I saw that was representing México was the pink rebozo she was holding after her photoshoot
I'm Mexican too and I have never seen someone dressed like that either. I get that the costumes change depended on the region, but it just doesn't feel like something any Mexican would or have ever wear/wore.
a headdress is one of the highest honors one can earn in many indigenous tribes -- even the fact that it's just accepted as fan attire for the Washington state football team is disgusting and remarkably disrespectful.
As a biracial kid, the first one was just. Horrible. Its racially offensive and cultural appropriation. Just hire multiracial models and POC!! Please!! We want representation of biracial and multiracial people in different media but this is just disrespectful and disgusting
Key word representation... not conversion... there‘s no need to just change the ethnicity of a model... it’s offensive to the culture(s) of the ethnicit(y/ies) you’re trying to become and it’s also offensive to the ethnicit(y/ies) of the model... it’s like, yeah I know you are a bunch of people defined by the DNA of your culture(s) but we’re gonna scratch that out and make you something else SMH
Tbh they all were cultural appropriation:/ cultural means a certain culture. The whole greek thing ticked me personally off since that headpiece is only used in hollywood movies lol
Actually, the Greek headpiece is something they used to wear in Greece, you know when? 2500 YEARS AGO! Plus it looks so cheap. like the stuff tourists usually buy after visiting Acropolis.
Even better, it was actaully c. 3000 years ago and yes, it looks like foam and is so freaking thick. I study Ancient Greek history, that really had me pissed and I am not even Greek
When the "Greek" girl popped up I was so confused. I'm like, Are greek people not white to tanned?? Even if they are not I'm pretty sure they are not DT orange
@@jenniferrogers9247 so your answer is to hate on ALL Americans?! So if a Labrador retriever bites someone you would put All Labrador retrievers down? Nice.
I honestly think Tyra got away with this one based off her race if she had been white she would have had more drama the second it came out but the drama has slowly built up it was there the second the ep aired but 😑
Tyra genuinely had a contestant leave because she didn't like her personality. She also screamed at a contestant because the contestant didn't cry when they were told to leave. I can't believe I thought antm was good. antm is truly problematic.
@@francescadowns4551 There's been a couple actually. I don't remember off the top of my head, but there were at least two girls who were sent home because of a LACK of a personality as well
Let’s not forget the time she told a girl she had to get rid of her gap in her teeth or leave. Made her go through actual serious dental work to get rid of what made her unique while threatening to rip her dream away
It always disturbes me when they act like "Native American" is a single homogeneous ethnicity. Like what. Why. I live in Russia and even I know there are a many different cultures with different traditions under the "Native American" umbrella. They could have make a model to pretend she is half European as well, it wouldn't make any difference for that ignorant trainwreck
Same goes for almost every country. The synonymous use of ethnicity and nationality in this show urks me. Also Traditional clothing is not the same as ethnicity either... I can’t with this.
This is horrific. But I still think one of the most messed up challenges is when they had Nyle, a deaf contestant, do a photoshoot in complete darkness in the middle of the woods. On set, someone would clap so the models knew when to jump and pose. They didn't plan a way to signal him at all, I think he almost got injured, and the judges had the nerve to say his disability didn't affect his results. I swear a producer came up with the concept as soon as he became a contestant. Luckily, he was a super strong contender and won cycle 22!
The trippiest part about the "photo critiques" is I have it on good authority, from the girls Ive met that were on that show, is that the Tyra/the judges would many times choose THE WORST photo for the "critique" when they were much better photos that they could have chosen.
What respect? Who complained about that episode? No one i could tell except extremely recently white people. Everyone for years had no issues with that episode because it was a mud mask. No one was in blackface. And I have yet to meet any darker skin tone people who have any issues with that episode. And we can all agree to love the golden girls.
Or the episode of community for cosplaying as a DROW which is a gray, sometimes purplish gray, to pitch black skinned elf with white hair. Also banned for blackface.
My dentist used to brag about his daughter being a model. He was happy she got voted off because he hated the show and that she was on it. I never knew why until I saw stuff like this ._.
I feel bad for these models. if they say that their uncomfortable with doing this shoot then they'll be sent home and criticized by Tyra for not doing it. I hope none of the more extreme people of cancel culture lashed out at them for participating, heck I'm surprised Tyra is still around and working (unless I missed something, there's too much news to keep up with right now)
There is an expression in German: it's called "fremdschämen". Translated literally, it's fremd (stranger) schämen (shaming). I think, the English expression is cringeworthy? Basically, I am ashamed for you, Mrs Tyra Banks! I really am!
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I was wondering how you were feeling during the shoot? like was anyone aware that what was happening was well... not okay?
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Hii this was my first time watching your videos and its actually interesting. I actually enjoyed it even though tyra makes me mad. This is just not ok.
Why didn't they just have the girls represent their own cultures and heritage? They would have loved that a lot more.
I would of loved to see that instead too. I think most of America would have.
But you know what they say,
If it's offend someone then they're talking about it, and good publicity or bad publicity it's publicity. ANTM is all about the views and who's talking about them
Correct. Like do their heritage .
Yeah pretty sure they ended up doing that in later seasons. Maybe because of the controversy, I dunno.
I would have loved to see a bunch of different cultures being represented.
it depends on their personal story. maybe some of them do not consider themselves as anything but american. maybe they don't have a clue about their own heritage. maybe they grew up without their parents etc. i mean there are so many reasons why did not. but what they did instead is not better though
@@rennesmine Right, like I would love to dress as my culture and heritage. (If I knew what it was)
Tyra during the photoshoots like, "Act oppressed! That's the spirit "
Right😂
Oop
The way i just cackled 😂😂
I just hollered!!!
Hahaha
They managed to offend about 20 nationalities in under 10 min 😂
I swear.....
It takes talent 😂
😂
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I’m half Arab I was so offended
Tyra is really just throwing around the words “race” “ethnicity” and “nationality” in a very interchangeable way, and they’re all different meanings 😅.
What is the difference between race and ethnicity? Honestly, I don’t think I know ( I don’t mean this in a rude way I’m genuinely asking because I want to know the answer and don’t wanna accidentally offend someone)
@@EternalPhoenix Someone else explained race and ethnicity, and nationality is where you live, what country you're a citizen of
Thank you!
@@EternalPhoenix Race is a broader term like Hispanic or Asian, whereas ethnicity is narrow and cultural based. For example a person could be Hispanic and have indigenous ancestors from Mexico whereas a Hispanic person from Peru would probably have different indigenous ancestors.
@@soxpeewee are you sure you know what you talking about? Race is not broader but nationality is. What you was explaining for ethnicity not race is correct but race is not broader. In fact calling someone Hispanics or Asian is same as calling someone American.
Hispanic and Asian is broad but it is not race. They both not the same thing meaning wise either aka…
the ones they call Asian is because of a certain region they lived in.
The ones they call Hispanics are for all those whose “original” language is Spanish in which ALL are HIGHLY different cultures aka…
Depending on the country some are south western mixed with the European Spaniards that colonized their island
some are the original ppl of an island mixed with the European Spaniards that colonized their island
And some are original ppl of the island mixed with pure Africans that was bought into their island by the European Spaniards that colonized their island for the purpose of slavery.
And some Hispanics are pure Africans mixed with European Spaniards or mixed with the original ppl of the island the evil European Spaniards forced them into for the evil purpose of slavery.
And btw indigenous means true Natives of a certain land aka the original ppl of a certain country.
Noticed I placed “original” in quotes… that’s because every country besides Spain in Europe that speaks Spanish as their “original” WAS NOT their original language.
Just like the European came to colonize America and forced all the Africans that they brung into America and all the natives of America and whoever else entering America to adapt and only learn speak and teach the English language the European Spaniards ALSO did the same to all the island inhabitants that they colonized… (well they are Europeans aka European does as European does) all those islands they took over THEY ALL HAD THEIR OWN original language AND IT WAS NOT SPANISH these evil racist European Spaniards forced the inhabitants of all the islands they colonized and all the Africans they abducted from African for the evil purpose of slavery into them to only learn speak and teach Spanish else they were tortured and or killed.
So all the islands like Mexico, Cuba, Puertorico, Santo Domingo, Panamania and so on they all had their own separate language and it was not Spanish. It became Spanish by force by these evil racist Europeans. These islands are so mixed now BECAUSE of the racist European colonizers from Spain that calling someone Cuban, Puertorican, Dominicans, Nicaraguan, Peruvians and so on is like calling ppl born and raised in America Americans IT IS NOT THEIR RACE it’s just their nationality aka of where they born and or raised at.
As a Greek person, no, we are not called Grecian, Tyra. We're Greek. And no, nobody walks around with a golden olive branch headpiece to go grocery shopping, I'm literally screAMING
Έλληνες! But I think this will break poor Tyra's software :D
Ακριβώς!!!🤣
As a Mexican, I just don’t know what to say 🙃
@@frappoGarcia it was sad, Mexican culture has some much more to offer, yet they couldn't be further away from it with this cultural monstrosity they created.
I am Greek too and this is the worst Greek representation I ever saw!
The ignorance of Tyra is astounding. She is a woman of color herself. How disrespectful can you be. You are in a position of power. ACT LIKE IT
Half the time I think it's the big wigs above tyra pulling the strings
Sometimes I think she's forced to do that but half of the time I think she forgets she's black
just bc shes black doesnt mean she´s not privileged and born into it.
Just because Tyra is black doesn’t mean nor does it automatically guarantee that she is capable of empathy or free from bias.
@@Nellzurkat but couldn’t she just refuse??
The irony that Tyra, a woman of color, was like "Yes, I think black face is a wonderful idea for a photoshoot!".... Girl what?
educate yourself about what "blackface" means before butchering the term for clout.
@@vsfs.compendium I- what do YOU think it means?
@@vsfs.compendium yeah wait bro what do you think it means cause Bailey used it accurately
@@vsfs.compendium THATS LITERALLY BLACKFACE
While this is not exactly like the blackface as it used to be done, and while I think it wasn't used for the same purpose or to make fun of...this still counts as blackface. And while I have seen blackface used incorrectly a lot this isn't one of those times.
I would love to have a serious documentary where Tyra has to explain why she came up with these concepts. I would watch the entire thing. Especially if the host was having no nonsense. "so what inspired you to insult all these cultures?" "Well it's not really insulting-" "Tyra. Are you about to tell me you don't know what blackface is?"
as interesting as this would be, Tyra would never put herself in a position where she would have to admit that she was in the wrong. :/
Yes! Have her interviewed by Tara Brown, the Australian reporter from 60 minutes who did that savage interview with that lady who faked Cancer. She holds no prisoners.
this really does need to happen
She did address it at one point. The video is somewhere on UA-cam I saw it. I think she apologized.
Cocaine.
The amount of culturally offensive material in that a.n.t.m. episode was crazy
And people didn't talk about it nearly as much as they should have purely because Tyra is black. Having her shoot this one was a tactic. People are waaay less likely to call out racially offensive behavior when it's a person of color doing it. That's just a fact, but at least we are making some progress on that now.
@@Lindseyisloony That is not a fact. People knew something was not right, but now we have a better understanding of how to respect cultures, ethnicities, and history by letting people be themselves without judgement. It ain't perfect, but far more open than it was back in 2010.
@@Lindseyisloony That's what I was thinking, those shoots were straight up racist 😐
@@Lindseyisloony or maybe because social media wasn’t like it is today also I watched antm and I don’t remember this episode maybe I missed it or my 12-13 year old mind didn’t comprehend what was going on
We cancel people all the time but how did we miss Tyra? The way she treats her models, especially the black ones, is disgusting.
“Jennifer was a mess. I was uninspired.” Tyra. You put this model in blackface then call her a mess. Idk what this was even supposed to accomplish for these girls.
Torture, it was meant to torture these girls
Looking back, I think all these stunts were just various degrees of torture. But seriously, Jay even said something about how emotions would show on her face.
They look like those aliens from 'The Time Machine'. The whole thing is a mess. 19:47 is a good photo though. I agree with Jessica.
THANK YOU!! This video (the ANTM) was so disgusting to watch. I feel bad she had to go through the whole thing. I’m shocked Tyra still had a career after all this sh*t. She put all these girls in blackface without teaching them the cultures yet expects them to get into character? Disgusting.
Forreal. I think a lot of the girls didn’t do so well because they were uncomfortable for valid reasons. 🙄
They sad part is, if someone spoke up and said that they weren’t comfortable doing this shoot, they would get points deducted, yelled at and probably kicked off
Yay that the sad fact
Oh they definitely would have kicked off anyone who spoke out or refused to participate.
If she docked points from them for complaining about sexual harassment and hypothermia, then she defiantly wouldn’t care about this.
Definitely. They would have been told that they have a negative attitude or "not want this enough ".
Yeah but dont those women can think?! even before they get into the show, its clear that they'll have to do stupid things, things they dont like, etc.
I dont like shows like this. They are from the beginning on completly messed up
As someone from Hawai’i the sugar cane industry was pretty wack and owned by primarily white business men who tried to keep different ethnic groups segregated so they didn’t protest their pay and working conditions. There’s a really huge history associated with it, that goes beyond “they came here for jobs and then had babies”.
I was thinking the same thing. The lack of understanding about history is egregious.
and obama is not even hapa! LOL I thought she was gonna say The Rock or Jason Momoa (if Jason was around at that time which he might have been). THEY'RE hapas LOL.
Yeah they just whitewashed a big piece of history
I was so confused by Tyra's speech at the beginning, like... How little research did they do? The Suga Caine industry was awful and ab*sive to its employees. It wasn't some nice little get together where everyone had a nice time. People suffered and now they're further disrespecting that legacy with blackface??? Who approved this? How are you that ignorant?
I was wondering if anyone would mention that most of these people were forcefully brought there as slaves and not as a fun get together.
i was looking for this comment.
Never mind what was done to the Indigenous people in Hawaii when the sugar cane industry was started there. I guess screw the people who were murdered/enslaved/abused though. The indigenous people in “America” just moved to make space for the illeg... conqu... invad... explorers😒🙄
THANK YOU. That part infuriated me so much. That was the most whitewashed, polished, inaccurate description of the sugar cane industry i have ever heard. This whole photoshoot was so disrespectful from beginning to end
I figured, it was not as "let's go grow sugar cane " as it was presented. This whole photoshoot is a dumpster fire
Controversial: Tyra got away with wayyyy too much and really needed to face backlash. This whole show was a joke
That's 100% true. Her apology was a joke too
Controversial why? This show was a hot mess
It was reality show, not really modeling or mentoring. I think the crazier it was, the more people watched, etc.
In the Netherlands they have Hollands Next Top Model and Nigel is also a judge here. Its a legit modelling competion the programs basically only share the same name.
In the dutch version they actually teach the contestants about the modeling world. How to pose and walk etc
they even book them real jobs help them build a real portfolio and its not so weird.
So for me now watching clips of the original I am soooo in shock
Is was a sick experiment to exploit budding models and push them to do dramatic and extreme shoots for ratings
I’m Native American, and here’s my thoughts: disgraceful. We are not a costume. Every bead, every feather is blessed and sewn in by prayer. They are earned and to be worn with cultural pride, not to be mocked or portrayed. I don’t know how the headdress is made, but that part doesn’t matter if it’s used on a non-native American woman, period. I used to like ANTM, but that was before I grew up and realized how offensive this truly was.
I could be wrong, but aren't native american headpieces no matter from what tribes pretty much sacred and only to be worn by certain people in ceremonys today? And isn't it an insult to just wear them if you aren't given permission even if you are Native American?
It's interesting because in scottish culture you aren't allowed to wear 3 eagle feathers unless you are a clan chief aswell. i found it really interesting that those two very geographically apart cultures share this.
Correct me if I am wrong, I am really interested in hearing about other cultures and want to be educated on topic that I have no personal history off.
@@TemariNaraannaschatz you are correct. Back in the day, it was actually rare for Native Americans to wear large headdresses like that unless they were worn by Native American leaders, chiefs and warriors. Every single feather was earned by those whom showed immense bravery and honor, whether in battle or hunt.
@@imagecarolyn Since hunting today is illegale (illEGALE, sorry had to make that joke), are those who are still worn then passed down or do those who still get the honor to wear them have to collect them from young eagles who haven't left the nest yet?
@@TemariNaraannaschatz Headdresses are usually passed down to children, but there is actually a waiting list for fresh materials. The ones who make the headdresses and any other items need a special permit that will allow them to order any parts from an eagle. Whenever an eagle dies naturally, there's a refuge in the Rocky Mountains that accepts the remains and then distributes the feathers, bones, and claws to the ones on the waiting list. Only tribal members may obtain the permit and they can only give their creations to other tribal members. It's very strictly regulated.
@@chinadollsyndrome That makes sense given that sadly egales are endangered these days, and I love to see people keeping their traditions up like this, without any animals being harmed.
Thank you so much for answering!
I feel a bit bad for all these models. There's a good chance they felt uncomfortable while it was going on, but even if they didn't at the time, and were ignorant of how offensive it was, they probably figured it out by now and regret it. Plus there's these videos and photos of themselves in black/brown face. I can't imagine that looks good on a model's resume.
Also, these poor girls who were desperate to get their footing in the model industry, now have to be ready at all times for if they suddenly become relevant again and get called out for things they were forced to do by contract
There were a couple girls talking about how they felt america's next top model actually hurt them as models and that people in the industry kind of thought it was a joke..
Which I can kind of see and really is unfortunate.
they thought they were doing something to kickstart a career..
And they're just being berated in blackface and being blackballed from the industry.
I've always kind of wondered what the models' actual reaction to this photoshoot was, instead of what was edited for the show. It seems like at least a few of them would've been uncomfortable. Mr. Jay said that he thought Tyra was out of her mind for doing this.
ehh i don’t think anyone really blames the models.. those who’ve kept up with this show over the years are well aware of how it operates 😣🫠
Why is everyone so dark? They know that Greek people and Hispanic people can be light skin??
lol yea it's like they missed the memo that greece is in EUROPE and "Hispanic" is way to general and a bunch of different races, and mixes of ethnicities
Right, my Greek family is actually very light skinned. A lot of people are darker if they’re farmers, but that’s just a tan lol
Idk Mexican isn't a race I really don't know why that they keep saying its a race,
like I'm Mexican and I'm really light, almost all my family is darker, I have Asia-mexican friends also black Mexicans and that's not even mentioning that they only say Mexican not even Latin America
So can Native American people. I myself am fairly light skinned, even though both of my parents are quite dark. Skin tone doesn’t always equate ethnicity/race. But what else do we expect from ANTM?
Because they're not trying to learn anything from any of those cultures 😒. The "Mexican" dress was not Mexican either, it was not even colorful, so they represented the idea of Mexico that they had on their heads, and stereotypically we are portraited with dark skin, which is true some mexicans have dark skin, but there are a lot of other skintones and ethnicities in Mexico. So they are not really representing Mexico, or Greece, or anywhere/anyone, is just a horrible jicksaw of stereotypes and cultural apropiation.
I'm starting to believe the girls who were not "feeling" this shoot knew it was wrong and were simply afraid of voicing their concerns in fear of backlash from Tyra.
I was thinking this the whole time. How are you supposed to be in a good headspace when you know you’re being “forced” (not really forced but Tyra can be really cruel if she wants to be) into something you know ONE, can cause some serious backlash down the line... TWO, is offensive to so many cultures... and THREE, you’re not even getting to be yourself they are literally changing your ethnicity.
Absolutely. The whole time I was thinking… what would Tyra do if someone refused to do this shoot??
Your feelings would be on point
@@chelscog she’d belittle and berate them for the cameras to boost her ratings
@@chelscog in past episodes when models didn’t do the shoot they ended up going home
As a native american and mexican mix, All I have to say is: “WTF is goin on in here on this day?”
I would say "THE CAUCASITY" but Tyra is black, which confuses me because. How could you be okay with black face?
Mexican is not really a race, so I don't think someone can look "mexican" just by their skin color
@@hildaaceves7483 Exactly...so wtf. How can anyone 'look' mexican? She doesn't even look like mexican indigenous people if that was the aim. I'm so confused too.
I’m native too & I was thinking the same thing. 😂😂😂😭 (not just on my behalf but like...the entire worlds behalf bc whaaaat tf Tyra)
Yesss Allyssa edwards
Not only is the “Native American” dress offensive because it’s turning a culture into a costume. It’s lazy. There are thousands and thousands of tribes and they each have their own culture and fashion/clothing which is rooted in where they are from geologically. The Hopi are going to have different dress from the Osage, who are going to look different from the Karuk, who have a completely different style from Tlingit or Haida. It’s offensive and it’s so lazy. I’m sure the Indian style dress is the exact same where it’s a vast geographic region with multiple cultures but one stereotype keeps being used.
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Using a war bonnet, too... I can't. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@marx-e oh, so we can be called a "distraction" or told to "go back to the rez"? Colonizer, please.
Think before you talk 💩, you might think you did something here, but you just sound so ignorant.
@@_nikkiknox2852 i know that was just so wrong on so many levels.
exactly!! it’s like they picked the ONLY thing the know from the Native American culture. LITERALLY this was for war. and all tribes are different. there’s no reason to have them all stereotyped the EXACT SAME??? if she wanted someone to look Native American (bc that sure tf did NOT) GET SOMEONE FROM THE CULTURE. have the girls do who they are and plan ahead. there’s no reason to make someone something they aren’t. it’s offensive to the race/culture and ALSO to those poor girls.
Yeah, this headpiece is something typical in Greece.
If you won the olympics in 500 BC.
LOL OMG
Yep, the laurel wreath
Right! Like was this ancient Greek cosplay or something
LOL
Omg, I am CACKLING!!!!
The way she described slavery as “people who immigrated” 💀
You do realize that Hawaii was made into a U.S territory nearly 40 years after slavery was officially abolished. Can we not equivocate every brown person as being slaves? Can we not? Is it possible?
It's not slavery in the " steal the brown people" but slavery in the human trafficking sense. They still died, lived and worked horrible conditions, and were separated from their families and cultures. It's slavery just not in the way my ancestors were enslaved.
@@geekfreak2000 They . . Migrated . . .by choice . . . For the jobs that were there. Do you think working class people are just these paper dolls that have every single choice made for them, and they have no agency? Is this how you see yourself? That isn't healthy.
Scape Goat Initially, countries sent contract workers to Hawai’i, but few workers actually finished their contracts and many fled to the mainland. This was because the contracts allowed plantation overseers to punish the workers if they were not satisfied, and this fell into the contract conditions. “On June 14, 1900 Hawai‘i became a territory of the United States. This had no immediate effect on the workers pay, hours and conditions of employment, except in two respects. The labor contracts became illegal because they violated the U.S. Constitution which prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude.” (Center for Labor Education & Research University of Hawai‘i - West O‘ahu)
@@Geminilion100 I don't think it was like that.
(Insert from the history of labour in Hawai'i - University of Hawaii system)
The Royal Hawaiian Agricultural Society organized to protect the interests of the plantation owners and to secure their supply of and control over cheap field labour. The first group of Chinese recruited came under five-year contracts at $3.00 a month plus passage, food, clothing and a house. An advance of $6 was made in China to be refunded in small instalments.
From the beginning there was a deliberate policy of separation of the races, pitting one against the other as a goal to get more production out of them.
The President of the Agricultural Society, Judge Wm. Lee, advised the planters in these words:
To all those planters who can afford it, I would say, procure as many labourers as you can, and work them by themselves, as far as possible separate from the natives, and you will find that, if well managed, their example will have a stimulating effect upon the Hawaiian, who is naturally jealous of the coolie and ambitious to outdo him."6
The backbreaking work was 26 days a month and 10 or more hours per day. Fierce overseers, known as Luna, rode on horses carrying whips which they were not hesitant to use on the workers.
The planters were determined to obtain and hold a "stable" labour force, and in this, the planters had the assistance of the law
(I am not a person of Hawaiian culture so I decided not to alter it so to reduce any misconceptions I may have)
Tyra: “Oh, she is supposed to be Greek and Mexican. Let’s just put her in a sombrero and toga.” 😂😂
You forgot the maracas.
You’re forgetting the mustache, we also carry a bottle of tequila with us, just in case...
Also a plate of tacos because we eat tacos every day and any time of the day
Greek salat is missing and a bottle of ouzo and olive oil
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Tyra: "It's too commerical."
Me: This is too stereotyped and offensive.
fr. preach 👏👏
Right
"They needed someone to work the sugarcanes, so people IMMIGRATED from all over to world to get JOBS!" Thats one way to describe slavery.
Yeah, I thought the same thing. How was this crap on TV, honestly Tyra??
Well in Hawaii they were paid so they did come here for jobs. They were not brought here by force. They were also given a place to live. They lived in communities each their own. Japanese, Portuguese, Puerto Rican, etc...
I think that was a post slavery era where slavery was illegal (but people were still doing it). So without slavery they needed people to work the fields and the immigrants were just the ticket to be exploited. Exploited as in underpaid.
@@yleniamayen I just want to make sure, but you don’t happen to be talking about “coolie” labor, in which (typically Asian) people were often kidnapped/tricked into signing false or misleading contracts, regularly abused with significant mortality rates, charged for the transportation/basic life necessities beyond what they could realistically pay for (exceedingly low compared to the rest of the country, even in similar areas of work), and for which there’s significant relation/similarities to formal slavery... right?
That’s the same thing I said
I'm Native (Navajo/Diné) and I think the head dress is really sad 😔 not only are head dresses typically reserved for male leaders, but every feather has to be earned.
And even then Indian Country is 573+ nations, all with diffrent cultures. It's really sad to see us limited to just the plains aesthetic
Sorry, I know people are really ignorant about your culture hope people try to be more enlightened 💞
I'm Cherokee /European and i agree with you
As an indigenous person it’s just so sad how we’re always forgotten when it come to important issues but not for Halloween costumes. The costumes just contribute to stereotypes and it’s so sad to see how many cultures and ethnicities they stereotyped.
Im Ojibwe and yes! We are not all plains natives, there are so many cultures within all the tribes and the only thing anyone knows is headdresses, moccasins, and dream catchers... there’s so much more than that
I was about to say the same thing, I'm not native but I studied a lot about the culture, and it is so sad and offensive to see them represented like this. No Respect at all.
"a lot of people emigrated to get jobs" no baby that was slavery
Thank you 👏👏👏 As someone who lives where sugar was shipped and processed, we need to acknowledge our shameful past. While I live in a deprived area, our neighbouring city profited wildly off of the sugar trade, and our town profited from the employment. It was here where the atrocities took place.
Sadly most people who live here now have no clue about their history and involvement. This is the sort of thing that should be taught in school.
If you wanted to do this subject justice they could have photographed the girls with smashed hands, sunburned, whip wounds, and missing fingers. If you wanna take photos in a sugar cane field and talk about race then show justice and respect instead of being disrespectful.
@Lauren La Rue so not slavery technically but not any better
Not sure how old you are but if you did your research, you would know that people willingly moved to the US and UK for work. Not only that people moved to India and Africa to start businesses. It wasn't just slavery.
THATS WHAT I SAID!!! 😂😭LMFAO 😭😂
I’m Moroccan and i have never seen an dress like that not even close. If someone asked me from which culture that dress was I wouldn’t know.
Tbh, the dress looks very similar to a poncho garment that Navajo children wore in like the 1890s
Most of the “races” they portray are nationalities, not even races.
Exactly!! 😠🙄
Trust me, as a Nigerian American, many Americans fail to see the distinction between race, ethnicity, and nationality.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Yet another reason why the face-painting didn’t make any sense
Thank you
And that is not okay.
As Russian I was fine with that hat and dress it was ok, but my Bear was very disappointed, he couldn't believe they did that, he even refuse drink any vodka today, he just run away in the woods, and I'm little worried, he even didn't take his Ak 47 with him...
Omg this was the best comment I've read 😂 I hope your bear is fine now tho, did he come back home? 🥺
@@vayermenoviko0linixDoh, yes, thank you for your concern, yes, my Babushka brought him home yesterday with piroshki and borsch, and today Bear and I ready for our balalaika concert in Chernobyl.
LOOOOOOOOOOL
Блин, просто обожаю то, как вы собрали эти стереотипы
Но где же баян и Путин?
I'm half moroccan and half Russian. So imagine when I saw this. I was literally like.... Tf???
I really love the added ignorance of “Can we put that thing on her neck” “Can we try that thing on her head” when it came to cultural items.
Right?
"Can we turn that "thing" around on her head to make it look more high fashion?"
"Ok, much better"
Oh my god I was looking for this comment. I found it so offensive.
Seriously.
Man, I forget how wild the 2000s were. I mean, there’s NO WAY you’d get away with doing this now. Ohhh this is so, so bad.
Becasue in 2000s we weren't so PC and scared to offend one another. But she is a black women so it's OK. If this was s white woman then the Woke SJWs would want her head!!!
I feel bad for the girls that went home feeling like they weren’t good enough. They weren’t the problem, the show was
this comment is underrated
Yeah!! And if they ever questioned what they were doing, whoever was in charge of it would pressure them and tell them it's "part of the job" or worse smh
what is it that you're not getting about a competition? Not everyone can be a winner. And the show has proven that you don't have to win to be able to start a career.
@@vsfs.compendium This comment wasn't about it being a competition, or that people lost, but on how the show treated its contestants DURING the competition, win or lose, that no matter what the girls would have to have a very independent, aware, and critical understanding of what was happening not to be affected personally by all the things said and done to them.
As commented in the video- it was somehow ALWAYS the girls' fault. NEVER the show's obviously and the girls could never really defend themselves in that kind of set-up. When you add editing and cuts that will cut out any provocation from the show's side, but possibly edit for drama, the girls are not in an enviable position.
What we learned from this episode: even as a person of colour herself, Tyra is blind and deaf to whatever this is and they also think every person of colour has the same exact red toned brown skin 🙄 I guess at the previous shoot they mixed 1000 litres of the same paint and they had to do offensive shoots with brownface until they finally ran out 🙄🙄🙄
On a good note it was lovely to hear you speak Arabic, even if it was just a few words and sentences. Such a nice language! 😊
I bet Tyra would use the “but I’m a black woman so it’s okay” excuse
Tyra was so into it and like if I was in Trya's position, I would be like no way. I'm also half Samoan (Polynesian).
The skin tones really got me 😬 as a WOC Tyra should have known that POC come in many different shades and tones. Like girl what the hell were you thinking 🤦🏻♀️
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They did blackface, brownface the whole damn spectrum 😩
I was so annoyed that the show was almost fetishizing mixed people, and just handing out races and skin tones to people who have not had to deal with the hardship of that appearance. It's almost as if these models were so excited because they got to dress up for a day, and be "exotic" without knowing the history behind these ethnicities.
I think for the models they were most likely expected to show they are excited as they are on a reality tv show. They might have not known much about the ethnicities they were asked to represent but I'm sure they all realized how wrong and disrespectful this challenge was. That is why you can see how uninspired and uncomfortable most of them looked. I put all the blame on the show authorities. They should've known better. What boggles me the most is how tone deaf and insensitive Tyra is, considering she herself is a POC
Yes, maybe cause if they showed like any disappointment, they would be deemed as racist by Tyra
Fax they were so obsessed with changing the models hair, eyes, and skin colors and literally modifying them into a whole different race BUT they never got actual models who were that race 😭
@@switchbladesx5808 the whole shoot was about changing their races. Duh
@@vsfs.compendium Kayla said to eat her fingers crack
My favorite part is when they said "eagles soar" and they did what movies always did and play a red-tailed hawk call 😂... man I work in wildlife conservation and this even insulted the birds 🤣
Hahaha I love how when films do that with “lion” roars too when often it’s a tiger’s
💀 🤣
Poor bird
“I feel like I really looked exotic” I made an inhuman noise at that.
I hate that word 🙄 I cringed so hard
I rolled my eyes so hard I have a slight headache now.
I mean how...? I'm not even the most PC:iest person, I bet I could benefit from learning more about cultures and appreciation/appropriation but even I know this is so fucked up how come nobody in that show said anything? Everyone just thought that was okay? I can't.
Nicole already looked exotic before that, she had a foxy like face and beautiful ginger hair.
*Inhuman intensifies*
Yeah someone (coughs Tyra) definitely had a fetish for mixed people/hapas. This whole shoot was just beyond distasteful
As someone who is both Russian and (East) Indian, I don’t even think I can put into words how disappointed I am and how they thought this was ok
Right
I'm Native American and about fell out of my chair. Wtf??? Full on chieftain headdress and everything. 🤬
And i bet you are gorgeous. They literally did your culture dirty. Its sad
@@mistakencrown4858 and they made her RED not dark but RED
I'm tired of the "east Indian" Tag, there's only one India and people who have ancestry from the subcontinent have the right to be referred to as "Indian".I can completely understand how native Americans feel when they're referred to as " Indians" or "American Indians". The only true " American Indians" are Indian diaspora who hold American citizenship. It's not rocket science, honestly
“ It’s a fashion interpretation” No Tyra, it’s cultural appropriation
AMEN
Whats wrong with seeing and appriciating the beauty in other cultures.
Preach Jenni. I think it's beautiful to share culture with the world...when you do it correctly 💜
@@mem2bam they weren’t doing that, they were actually changed their race.
@@mem2bam Well there is a very big difference between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. Cultural appreciation is when someone seeks to understand and learn about another culture in an effort to broaden their perspective and connect with others cross-culturally, and end up wearing part pf their fashion, agreat example of this is "Avatar: The last Airbender", whixh studied all about asian culture to understand it correctly and be able to translate it to TV. Appropriation on the other hand, is simply taking one aspect of a culture that is not your own and using it for your own personal interest, like what Tyra is doing, she doesn't know or care about the cultures she is supposed to be representing, she just did this because she wanted and she could.
Hope I solved your doubts
They had such diverse looking models, they could’ve played up the models’ heritage and done a great job but nooooo no no let’s impersonate other cultures and RACES! Jeez
So they had the sense not to lighten the skin of Sundai, but felt it was appropriate to paint the other girls in blackface? Also the nerve of Tyra to claim to be knowledgeable about any of these cultures when the costumes were the most shallow and superficial representations of cultures 🥴 also I'm getting major deja vu from the "East Indian" girl from the previous race swap shoot.
Dang I didn’t even catch that 🤦🏽♂️
Tyra thinks she's an expert in everything. I really love the location of this shoot and I'm mad that they ruined it with all the cultural appropriation.
They actually did lighten Sundai's skin, you just couldn't see it that well.
😅 actually they Totally lighten my skin but the MUA’s make up was so bad for some old reason the oils in my skin just sucked it up and I ended up looking just slightly ashy
@@SundaiLove Oh dang! My bad, guess they had no sense after all then 🙃 you still looked stunning though, those colours were so pretty on you!
She literally just put them all in blackface, for "fashion"
Also there were like 3 different shades to represent 6 people/12 "races"...
-the red-brownish color (used for most of them)
-something that seemed like they mixed the red-brownish color with some white color to make it lighter
-one naturally black girl without changed skin color
Yeah, sure, you are a well traveled world-famous model and don't even realize that people aren't just "black" or "not black"? Even in just the US you can see a huge difference between the skin colors of people considered to be "black". Then they also added ethnicities with olive tones in their natural skin color, different light yellow-ish shades (which are really hard to mix just as a color even if you just want to paint e. g. a japanese person without making them look like a superficial simpson-colored version of asians seen through the eyes of white people a few decades ago), different kinds of whites, various versions of brown etc.
I feel like they tried to cope their mess-up with the skin tones through mixing ethnicities that could lead to almost every skin color as an outcome but even if one wants to look at this mess through that perspective: They failed miserably.
Anyways, if they would've gotten the color palette right it would still not be ok soooo... But at least you would've seen that they put a teeny tiny bit of thought into it or smthg I guess
Next they’re gonna paint one red and call her Native American. No wait, she’ll call them Indian bc she’s racially insensitive at best
@@miristtotallw it’s was still wrong like if I was putting white makeup all over my body and say I’m white , Mexican and I’m black is not ok
@@miristtotallw are you saying it’s okay to change someone’s races we don’t need you here
Yeah like the 2 giels repressenting tibet/egypt and greece/mexico what was the point of painting them that dark and orange? Many people from Greece as example have fairly light skin and same someone from Mexico can have light skin too. That they pretty much put everyone in black face made me even angrier about this photoshoot as it was so unnessesary, like Tyra thought the photoshoot wasn't offensive and ignorant enough already.
Im half moroccan half egyptian and i got offended TWICE 😂
I died. Twice. 😂
The whole episode offended me😂
Girrrrl 😂😂
I'm so glad I only had to contend with being a quarter Greek. I don't know if I'd be able to watch even this breakdown if I had to deal with another of my ancestries being insulted.
Sameee
As a mexican, I can say they did literally no effort to represent mexican culture. They could at least have her wearing some traditional dress idk, or something with colorful flowers
I’m glad she didn’t, that would’ve pissed me off even more. 😡
no they shouldnt have in general all of this was horrible we are not a costume and this is blatant cultural appropriation
I really dont like how ‘wild’ and ‘barbaric’ they portrayed these ethnicities like bruh
I'm thinking the same... They had them in a barren field, holding sticks?? Like what??
And the word "exotic," like Hawaii is part of the USA, and these people would still be American, not like some foreign doll that you admire. Exotic is often used to talk about things form far away, often in places that don't have a large population, like exotic fruit. But not people.
You made it sounds like being wild and barbaric is a bad thing 😑. My ancestors are wild, hold spear, ride an elephant, and they are super cool doing all of these. How is being wild and barbaric, a bad thing? I think it is super cool because that is what they are 😎
@@andromedamessier3176
Because portraying people of colour as being barbaric and dangerous has been propaganda that has been spread for years to justify the racism and oppression those minorities have faced. The colonisers demonized the natives , that yes DID use spears and bows in battle , so that the taking of their land and the brutality of their people could be justified.
@@the_spit_on_grandmas_flabb5379 lol sorry I’m laughing so hard because it’s the first time I heard something like this “propaganda.” Sure compare those spear to the colonizer gun and tank, we are just a tiny speck. That is why we lost so easily. We even trade our treasure for some of those guns too. The only propaganda I see here is that you believe holding spear being wild and barbaric is very degrading. That is why you shouldn’t call them that. How is that any different than the propaganda of being wild and barbaric is bad, so we should invade them.
You see how similar it is. To me I’m proud of my ancestors way of life and history. We’re wild, barbaric. We hunt live together. We went on to build temple.
Couldn’t they have just used the models’ true ancestry? Wouldn’t that have been more interesting?
Yeh instead of this white washed, pathetic attempt at ‘culture’
omg YES that is such great idea!
This.
That's what I was thinking too, but no they needed to throw in at least one ethnicity per girl that would give them an excuse to put them all in blackface 🙄
Aren't they hard to find tho
"it might not be exact, it's a fashion interpretation"
no baby, it's just✨racism✨
No.... it’s an INTERPRETATION of racism
😉👍🤦🏼♀️
Sorry I couldn’t help myself. The racism is of the chain
@@ginao6810 yes your right :)
How is it racism?
@@jaketaylor5058 because history
@@ginao6810 I thank you need to read the definition is the word racism
This episode was wild, they set out to mock every group they could. None of the models needed to be darkened to get this shoot done. Meaning some producer signed off knowing they didn’t have to darken anyone they just wanted to play in dark makeup for shock value.
The dark makeup didn't make them look any more exotic. You can tell they weren't the actual culture.
Why didn’t they turn Sundai’s skin white, but had no problem doing blackface and darkening on everyone else’s skin?
my thoughts exactly..it just looks like to me they're taking any and every opportunity to paint the white girls brown LMAO
Good point
Because us white people aren't exotic looking enough. Lol I hate this show.
Or give people "cultures" that are closer to their own? I cosplay, and like, one or two shades darker or lighter isn't that bad, but deliberately making someone who is light skinned and blonde, into someone dark skinned with black hair, is the kind of thing that people have been banned from cosplay events for. It's really sad that this kind of thing was on TV. Like did they stop teaching about slavery and minstrels and that kind of racism based around blackface?
@@jlbeeen faxs
The “Mexican” didn’t look remotely close, where are the colors and the beauty, we have such a rich culture, they didn’t even try :((
Omg I know
obviously they don't care
They use ugly brown instead of flowers and colors they have no idea about Mexican culture
They could’ve tried with braids and ribbons but… oh well
I thought the same :/
they really think that everyone except americans just go around playing with sticks dont they?
That was exactly my first thought. Do they think, that everybody else are riding horses, using sticks and wearing 200 years ago outdated traditional dresses?
I thought I was the only one that caught that 😂😭💀
@@vivienkoles1880 seriously, im greek and that is not even our traditional clothing. Those kind of clothes existed more than 2000 years ago and only very rich people or royals had them
They truly are dumb as heck. This show is dead, Tyra needs to stop trying to push something that doesn’t bloody work!
@@anastasiakk6979 Yeah, as a person who is reading history, does research for fun and watches videos abt clothes in olden times and watching designers make clothes from a different century and country, I was high-key confused.
This just shows how the designers didn't even do proper research and just added the most stereotypical things they could!
The native headdress got pulled out and I felt myself crumple. I literally went "No...."
White people stop wearing native headdresses challenge.
*non natives.
@@chrissy3875 Yeah, non natives, but as a native person I typically see blonde white women using native headdresses as a fashion decision.
Non natives in general shouldn't use our cultures as a fashion piece or gimmick.
I was like "they cant be doing black face or a headdress right?" And then they did. Wow
Um the model didn’t have a choice it was Tyra who made her wear it… it’s not the model’s fault….
@@nellienelson9415 I'm aware of that, but it doesn't get rid of how like. Awful and racist it is. It's not her fault and I'm not blaming her for it. The whole "white people stop" thing was meant to be a generalized statement, not specifically about her.
Its not even just stereotypes, theyre using ceremonial pieces that have to be awarded by the tribes people or the chief and they basically went Halloween with it. Disgusting.
Omg "they went Halloween" is now an expression I will add to my dictionary XD.
Calling it halloween is being nice 😡 so disgusting
“Native American” which of the 400+ federally recognized tribes or many non federally recognized tribes is she supposed to be exactly???
Add to that all the native south americans and you got a whole world that they are insulting all at once
Well, I can confirm she isn’t supposed to be Iroquois because I have never seen such a headdress on a woman before. So cross us off the list. Lol.
definitely not a chippewa, we don’t claim her
edit: i should clarify, none of us claim this representation of native tribes, the model herself is not 100% at fault here
Its so ridiculous. The idea was "indian and indian" (which is so insensitive). And they used the worst stereotypes for this one 😑
Not to mention they gave her a headdress that is meant for chiefs (I believe, please correct if I'm wrong)
They literally did blackface and racist stereotypes, this is horrible
It's a "fashion interpretation" (which seems like a weird way to pronounce racist stereotypes, but I'm not a native english speaker)
@@ApequH yeah, me too 😅
Only one of them was dressed as a (half) Black person.
You do realize Blackface is specific to BLACK people, right?!?!?!
I actually feel YOUR comment is racist. You don’t complain when they lighten up a dark skin for the movies which they do ALLLLL the time so why is it bad now? NOW that it’s the other way around
@@zeta9885 what?
After all these atrocities, as a European I feel a little left out!
I was waiting for them to bring some wall paint and just brushed a poor model white, put her on a toga and throw a spanish peineta at her with some Ikea furniture in the background 👀
Exactly what I was going to say, there is beauty in all cultures and as "well traveled" as Tyra portrays herself to be, this shoot made her look as uncultured and ignorant as they come.
dont give them any ideas....
"They needed a larger workforce, so you know what they did?"
Slaves. They brought in slaves.
I was waiting for him to go there. But of course he wouldn't.
Exactly what I was thinking
I thought they were going there too...
Exactly
They said “emigrated.”
THEY LOOKED OTHER HUMAN BEINGS IN THE EYES AND SAID “EMIGRATED” I AM SCREAMING
As a japanese that "kimono" is too revealing and disrespectful
It looks like Tyra grabbed ‘kimono-inspired’ lingerie.
It really is- It makes me really uncomfy
I didn’t even know that was a kimono at first
Why didn't they just get Jennifer to do that shoot too instead of painting all over her face
I'm not Japanese but fr- even if it was fashion-inspired it was too revealing
“well that’s not what they said on Reddit, Tyra”
lmfao i was going to comment this ; so funny
This is weird, but i just found your videos and i was binge watching during depression and I struggle with just going and showering and getting dressed nice, but we look kinda similar, and have the exact same hair, and when i see your videos and you look so nice then i am excited and motivated to get myself done up. I watch these every morning now
Im Mexican and that model that was “Mexican and Greek” had NOTHING resembling Mexican culture the dress looked like it could’ve come from any culture plus the brown and black face was just the cherry on top of this whole mess
Literally. I'm Greek and you guys have such beautiful traditional outfits for women, beautiful skirts, dresses, headpieces, and they went and put her into a blue dress that has nothing to do with your culture. We both have beautiful traditional pieces they could have used and they went and bought some Halloween decorations and a plain dress and said "well that's about right!"
Infernal Cookie RIGHT? Both cultures have beautiful uses of colors and detail in their fashion and they just put her in some raggedy tunic and some cheap costume laurel
@@vayermenoviko0linixD period!
They used a cheap-looking laurel and some weird grandma shirt. :( if they wanted Mexican they could have used one of our beautiful traditional dresses or at least a stereotypical poncho :( and they could have done something nicer to represent greece :(
@@YporquenoCOM At least they didn't use a sombrero. I feel like their makeup was a lost opportunity. I think that makeup in Mexico is very bold yet they made her look all plain. Is greek makeup plain? I wouldn't have thought so but even so it's still so plain looking. At least give her hoops or something. That shirt looked more like the kind of shirts sold at stores near beaches. That grandma boho style. I can't think of any Mexican clothes that really resemble that. They could've used more color too. Traditional Mexican is very colorful. They could've used more ribbons.
God, this is offensive not only to cultures themselves, but to people actually investing time and effort into studying them in depth and beyond plain dumb stereotypes. As an anthropologist and overall lover of the many shapes of culture this is crap. P.S. There are people wearing the olive leaf crowns in Greece - called tourists :D
Do you mind me asking what you do as an anthropologist? I took a class a couple years ago and loved it but I'm unsure of what kinds of jobs you could get in anthropology
Right and all the girls were like "i don't know nothin about _____" . It's literally just stereotypes thrown at these women ...
@@cee3poh888 They should have not painted them, made them learn about other cultures, and worn more authentic clothing so it could be more of an appreciation of the beauty of culture rather than a cheap mockery of it.
@@seriousjobroluvur It really depends on the type of anthropology you have studied. In Europe it is concentrated on culture and sociology whereas in US it is more of a forensic/ physical anthropology. I'm Eastern European, so for me there were the options to concentrate of sociological analysis - you could work as a social analysist - to measure the current moods in society and help navigate politics towards it. You could work for a media and do photo anthropology. If you are more on the cultural side - you might work as a museum curator, work with minorities (which also applies to social anthr.) I have briefly worked analyzing the refugee crisis onsite in 2014. This is just a very basic example of what other anthropologists I know do. To be honest in my country context anthropology is still a pretty academic concept, so it still fights it's way up to everyday jobs. I myself - do not work in my field even though I would have loved too.
@@alitisa2786 Thank you so much for the info! I'm in the US and the class I took mainly just talked about indigenous cultures and tribes. It was an intro course so we didn't go into too much detail. But at my university, anthropology is in the same department as sociology and criminal justice. Since I didn't take any more classes, I'm not sure which concentration the classes were geared towards. I was just wondering because the only jobs I could think of were as a professor or in a museum
It's so weird because as a kid I used to admire Tyra SO much and I thought it was so awesome and representative that she was a woman of colour but this is... blatantly racist and unsensitive
Tyra really said “make it ✨offensive✨”
😂😂😂 dying
Yes she did 😂
Tyra: Next photo shoot make them say the n-word
How offensive do you want it to be?
Tyra: Yessss
“Sometimes the personality is a question.” Tyra, your personality is the only one that needs questioning...
Dead on
I’m Native American and I was cringing when they put the head dress of her because guys are supposed to wear it but this whole shoot is just wrong 😖
Same with the russian head piece. Its for guys. And for the winter.
Ikr- im into fashion history and it was just wrong
@@PrayingMenace I'm also not sure that furry earflap hats are even exclusively Russian.
The head dress or “war bonnet” was mainly worn by men, chiefs, warriors. It was to symbolize honor and bravery. The more feathers you had the braver you were. I don’t feel like it was as much racist, as it was disrespectful. Definitely don’t agree with the shoot. There are ways to appreciate a peoples culture... this, was not it.
@@faithbrickey637 I was WAITING for someone to make this comment omg. So disrespectful. This whole shoot felt like a cringeworthy halloween costume-y mess to be honest. Nothing groundbreaking or avant-garde about it, and I'm really surprised the network allowed this to air.
Me: *Getting a PhD in studies relating to postcolonialism*
Tayra: *excitedly* We're in a sugar cane field...
Me: Oh no. 🤦♀️
"This is not the girl I shot that was lying on the floor, breathing" sounds really different without the modeling context
😵
And yet, not the most disturbing thing in this vid
Growing up in South Africa, we are taught that "black face" is a huge taboo. How can Tyra who is supposed to be representing African culture in the USA be okay with "black face" on her show.
Exactly!!
She’s like wendy Williams I mean I am not saying what there. Doing us right but u can see where the endless oppression of black America’s has legit made some of us black America’s lose our identity Tyra , Wendy , Jersey May all be black but they all have done firm of delusions about race and white I don’t agree with what they do I kinda feel them there loss of identity to the white race .
blackface means mockery. the intention behind this shoot is a different one.
@@d.6823 They darkened everyone's skin to make them into different races.. It is black face.
@@oliveranderson7264 yes, but the intetion was to buildt bridges, not to mock.
So rather than actually casting more back women for the show, Tyra paints all the models black. Make it make sense.
That's Hollywood to you, cue to that Nina Simone movie with Zoe Saldana and many other examples
It felt weird that every three seasons from season 3 through 12 you knew a black contestant was going to win. It felt like they wanted to have this forced diversity.
Well Tyra favorited black contestants, so there you go
@@m.bcupid4179 no Hispanic, native American or Asian winners?
@@soxpeewee you have naima and Jaslene for Latinas
as an actual biracial person this whole thing from concept to execution is horrifying lmao
also the way they set up the whole thing around being mixed and then didn't use being mixed AT ALL in any part of the actual process
I live how tyra didnt even pick actual mixes that would have happened in hawaii and just picked random ethnicities. This is just straight craziness
I was waiting for them to straight up say antarctican like bruh tf?
Yeah, why go to Hawaii if they gonna do that? The ethnic background here is Hawaiian, Filipino, Chinese, Japanese, European and several others. We don't got Moroccan or Egyptian majorities here, this whole thing makes no sense.
@@wolvie1618 it was ~ for fashion ~ and what Tyra thought was the coolest and most "visually interesting" on camera no doubt. like yeah, these mixes could exist at some point and are valid but are not reflective of Hawaii's population or that era of immigration and slavery.
she really did not care and the girls had no idea what these ethnicities and cultural backgrounds were about. her approach to the styling was also obviously whatever looks fun since she straight-up basically admitted they're doing whatever and however they want as long as it's "fashion." it was like Tyra playing dress up with her dolls.
I was thinking about this toooo
and then no one even looks mixed. just total ignorance LOL.
Did she really called us grecian? And the head piece thingy screams "i only know greek culture from percy jackson" like jesus christ u cant boil us down to a leave crown
Από δω και στο εξής λεγόμαστε Ελληνιστές όχι Έλληνες 🤣
Percy Jackson explained it better. She looks like she walked right out of that horror of a movie.
honestly im not even greek and... it’s like they looked at one statue of a Greek god from lord knows how long ago and said ‘no yeah i think that sums up the entire culture enough’
@@folded_pizza Ελληνάδες! 😂😂
“Think about Egyptians, think what they have been through”. Even Tyra must have got that cringe feeling after hearing that.
Girl couldn’t even think of some of our struggles, lol.
Tyra isn’t self aware enough for cringe
From all the diversity of Russian culture, they decided to take a hat with earflaps... Well, at least they didn't give her a bottle of vodka
да уж. могли бы использовать кокошник, ХОТЯ БЫ. это же так красиво... но нет.
😂😂😂😂
Хахаха
So many cool clothes they could have done too and they're like "don't invade russia in winter. That's a thing right?"
After watching this, I need the bottle of vodka
if I'm being honest this photo shoot that they did is a prime example of cultural appropriation and stereotypes and is not even in the least bit tasteful I'm surprised that it's still allowed to be aired at all let alone showcased. Unfortunately this is still a common practice in the fashion industry which shocks me because I would always pick somebody who is actually that ethnicity versus appropriating an image in race on to somebody else.
@RBCorsiva hulu has all of the episode in season 1 to 22
@@odd-duck how delightful of them.
Apparently paying models that are of the correct ethnicity or race is more expensive than to just get someone to appropriate the culture or ethnicity which makes 0 senses to me
@@ItsEverythingEuodia the excuse has always been "cost"
@@TheNewWaveOfArts 😂so true. I think they should just do the right thing
"races" and she say mexican and greek.... thats a nationality wtf
Omg that irritated the eff out of me
Seriously ticked me off as a Latina
@@faithfernandez1558 heavy, heavy, same on everything...
Well once Race but many Ethnicities, and yeah..... this whole video is just so ignorant and offensive!!!
Yeah lol, they’re both nationalities lol
I'm Native American. I have a lot to say on the topic.. but I'll keep it short.
I think there's a lot of natives out there who don't live on reservations and are raised to reject being native and who aren't taught anything about their culture or history.
I'm one of those people.
This just felt like a kick to the chest. There's always a deep sense of wondering who you are and where you fit in. Even if you reject the beliefs you should still know what you come from.
I was so confused because I'm Mexican and the outfit didn't seem Mexican at all and I hate how they immediately made the girl dark when not all Mexicans are dark. My mom is lighter skinned while my dad is dark and that made me a middle ground.
So true I'm half Mexican and Irish and I'm pale ugh I hated everything about this photoshoot expectally being a mixed person
Indeed, we are more like a lighter brown cinnamon skin tone and they painted laura with mud, the only thing I saw that was representing México was the pink rebozo she was holding after her photoshoot
I'm Mexican too and I have never seen someone dressed like that either. I get that the costumes change depended on the region, but it just doesn't feel like something any Mexican would or have ever wear/wore.
There are definitely darker mexicans (I am one of them) but I think the dress is supposed to be like the dresses that people make in the pueblos
Still weird though😭
I don’t even have to be native American to know the headress is extremely disrespectful
Exactly! This photo shoot was so disrespectful to EVERYONE!
a headdress is one of the highest honors one can earn in many indigenous tribes -- even the fact that it's just accepted as fan attire for the Washington state football team is disgusting and remarkably disrespectful.
My blood was boiling at the AUDACITY
This whole video was literally just disrespectful to everyone.
The headress was supposed to be worn by Native American chiefs. Who were usually men.
Everyone:"So how many races, ethnicities, and cultures do you want to offend?"
The show: *YES*
As a biracial kid, the first one was just. Horrible. Its racially offensive and cultural appropriation. Just hire multiracial models and POC!! Please!! We want representation of biracial and multiracial people in different media but this is just disrespectful and disgusting
Key word representation... not conversion... there‘s no need to just change the ethnicity of a model... it’s offensive to the culture(s) of the ethnicit(y/ies) you’re trying to become and it’s also offensive to the ethnicit(y/ies) of the model... it’s like, yeah I know you are a bunch of people defined by the DNA of your culture(s) but we’re gonna scratch that out and make you something else SMH
Tbh they all were cultural appropriation:/ cultural means a certain culture. The whole greek thing ticked me personally off since that headpiece is only used in hollywood movies lol
Preach! 🙌🏽 also biracial and thought this was super disrespectful! None of them look remotely biracial or multiracial.
This comment made me laugh
I’m extremely upset at how unbelievably inappropriate and offensive that whole episode was
As a Japanese person, I didn’t realize that the girl was wearing the “kimono” dress thing until I was like “....wait....”
Honestly I screamed when I realized that was supposed to be a kimono I couldn’t stop laughing
Not one bit of fashion in this whole shoot. Just trying to find something new and be edgy.
I lived in Japan for 4 years, and I didn't realize that was supposed to be a kimono until I read this comment. *face palm*
Wait what, I didn’t see a kimono??? Where.
indeed, the only part that sort of said "kimono" were the longuish sleeves. The rest is just a short bathrobe.
Actually, the Greek headpiece is something they used to wear in Greece, you know when? 2500 YEARS AGO! Plus it looks so cheap. like the stuff tourists usually buy after visiting Acropolis.
Even better, it was actaully c. 3000 years ago
and yes, it looks like foam and is so freaking thick. I study Ancient Greek history, that really had me pissed and I am not even Greek
Got it at a spirit Halloween
"the Tibetan culture is all about rituals" what a bunch of dorks those judges are
So their idea of other cultures is ‘dark skin’ 😆 I’m Mexican, and 2 of my sisters are so pale they use the lightest shade of most makeup brands.
Im Brazilian and the second I go in the sun I catch on fire lmao
These people from ANTM are so ignorant I can't 😂
When the "Greek" girl popped up I was so confused. I'm like, Are greek people not white to tanned?? Even if they are not I'm pretty sure they are not DT orange
Yeah im brazilian and belgium and i look white asf
I am Greek and I am so pale.Some people here have darker skin because of the sun.
This is why so many people rightfully hate us Americans I can’t with Tyra
Please don't lump all Americans in with these grotesque people. Not fair.
@@kellyrobinson1274 I’m an American, I say this seeing all the bs that other Americans do.
@@jenniferrogers9247 so your answer is to hate on ALL Americans?! So if a Labrador retriever bites someone you would put All Labrador retrievers down? Nice.
I honestly think Tyra got away with this one based off her race if she had been white she would have had more drama the second it came out but the drama has slowly built up it was there the second the ep aired but 😑
Well, there is other reasons too and this is one of them. Hahaha. I'm just kidding... But am I?
Tyra genuinely had a contestant leave because she didn't like her personality.
She also screamed at a contestant because the contestant didn't cry when they were told to leave.
I can't believe I thought antm was good. antm is truly problematic.
The word „problematic“ is probably the understatement of the year, but yes😄
who did she send home because she didn’t like her personality?
@@francescadowns4551 I do not remember the exact cycle or person.
@@francescadowns4551 There's been a couple actually. I don't remember off the top of my head, but there were at least two girls who were sent home because of a LACK of a personality as well
Let’s not forget the time she told a girl she had to get rid of her gap in her teeth or leave. Made her go through actual serious dental work to get rid of what made her unique while threatening to rip her dream away
Pretty sure this is the most talked about photo shoot ever. I remember this one. Insane.
Love ur reacts!
It always disturbes me when they act like "Native American" is a single homogeneous ethnicity. Like what. Why. I live in Russia and even I know there are a many different cultures with different traditions under the "Native American" umbrella. They could have make a model to pretend she is half European as well, it wouldn't make any difference for that ignorant trainwreck
Same goes for almost every country.
The synonymous use of ethnicity and nationality in this show urks me. Also Traditional clothing is not the same as ethnicity either... I can’t with this.
The level of ignorance in these days when information is literally fingertips always.
Couldn’t they have just done each girls ethnicities instead of changing them?
They could change their ethnicities, without changing their race or skin tone.
@@CherryBlossomBlyue CuLTuRaL ApProPriATiOn
This would have been a lot better
It's not about loving who you are in your own skin. And if you can't pull off being a fake, then you're eliminated. Sad.
This is horrific. But I still think one of the most messed up challenges is when they had Nyle, a deaf contestant, do a photoshoot in complete darkness in the middle of the woods. On set, someone would clap so the models knew when to jump and pose. They didn't plan a way to signal him at all, I think he almost got injured, and the judges had the nerve to say his disability didn't affect his results. I swear a producer came up with the concept as soon as he became a contestant. Luckily, he was a super strong contender and won cycle 22!
I would want her to react to this photoshoot. It was insanely upsetting to watch
what season and episode was it? As somebody who is hard of hearing, this pisses my off.
Wasn't there also this shoot with a legally blind girl with music around so she couldn't properly hear?
@@haileyturner4407 The episode was called "The Girl Who Took a Shot in the Dark" Cycle 22 episode 13.
@@elezeiaz thank you💜
The trippiest part about the "photo critiques" is I have it on good authority, from the girls Ive met that were on that show, is that the Tyra/the judges would many times choose THE WORST photo for the "critique" when they were much better photos that they could have chosen.
So an episode of the Golden Girls was banned for "black face" when two characters where wearing mud masks, but THIS SH*T is perfectly ok.
I don’t think they were banned but that the show took the episode down out of respect
your chronology is horrible.
@@vsfs.compendium I am aware the the chronology if a bit off but seriously ANTM should be made to apologize for this episode.
What respect? Who complained about that episode? No one i could tell except extremely recently white people. Everyone for years had no issues with that episode because it was a mud mask. No one was in blackface. And I have yet to meet any darker skin tone people who have any issues with that episode. And we can all agree to love the golden girls.
Or the episode of community for cosplaying as a DROW which is a gray, sometimes purplish gray, to pitch black skinned elf with white hair.
Also banned for blackface.
hey, I’m Russian, and I think that Sunday’s outfit is so funny, u know she looks like a tourist who decided to be more ✨cultural✨
Exactly, as a russian/Ukrainian, I didn't even realize that they were trying to encompass that culture
lmfao!
True, but I’m not offended it’s just funny
My dentist used to brag about his daughter being a model. He was happy she got voted off because he hated the show and that she was on it. I never knew why until I saw stuff like this ._.
Do you know who the daughter was? You've got me curious, haha.
who was his daughter??
@@rdhaley96 Janet from Cycle 9! She’s stunning
@@SavvyNitro OMG I loved her! She should have won!
I think this concept could've been great if they had used the girls actual ethnicities.
I feel bad for these models. if they say that their uncomfortable with doing this shoot then they'll be sent home and criticized by Tyra for not doing it. I hope none of the more extreme people of cancel culture lashed out at them for participating, heck I'm surprised Tyra is still around and working (unless I missed something, there's too much news to keep up with right now)
did you notice how sundai was careful with words? I think she saw that its trash but couldn't tell at loud.
There is an expression in German: it's called "fremdschämen". Translated literally, it's fremd (stranger) schämen (shaming). I think, the English expression is cringeworthy? Basically, I am ashamed for you, Mrs Tyra Banks! I really am!
Second hand embarrassment 😅😅 100000%
In Spanish vergüenza ajena
Lmfaoooo this comment is awesome!
Yeah "fremdschämen" really gets it 😐
We call it Spiderman 3