You can totally escape battles on Hard! The chance is just 0%. And no, that isn't me fucking with you - if you bypass the chance check, you can escape. This is done by ailmenting all the enemies and then Escaping. In the remake, there's a weird bug where ailments get cured faster, so this is pretty annoying...though this is how low level runs of Nocturne are done; early game, you have to fish for Zio shocks to escape battles and if you fail, you have to reload your save - miserable stuff. Alternatively you can also just get an Aeros and Erthys before entering the network and talk to the battles to forcibly end them - doesn't work on Choronzon, though... Troll is easy, even on this run. All you have to do is use the 2 Mahama Rocks you have access to by this point. Troll has no resistance to them whatsoever so you can very well kill him off this and skip the fight entirely. There's no reason you have to even think about this one. Other challenge runs usually either ban Dark Might because it's really OP or are running solo where you can't get it, so Dante proves a real tough nut to crack. Doesn't help that his attacks have absurdly high accuracy (over 100%) so Sukukajas are mostly useless. Here, though, where Dark Might is literally the only thing you can grasp, he doesn't seem so bad. Watchful is 50% of EXP, btw. Cursed corridor halves HP with every three steps. So yeah, grinding HP doesn't really help much! You probably should be killing the Virtues on White Rider's fight. With what you were doing, they'd begin physically attacking you and that'd be bad, but if you swap out a demon every time you get to -4 Rakundas, they'll keep wasting their time doing it, and on each turn you kill them, the enemy gets three turns post-summoning the Virtues instead of their usual four. If you had a team of Repel Fire users, I could definitely see it being worth it to try to get White Rider to use Prominence to skip his turn entirely, but I don't think you did at this point. Puzzle Boy: lol git gud I absolutely get using a guide for this if you're here just for punching God in the face, but come on, you found the other puzzles fine, why not dedicate an afternoon to the block puzzle game? Level 19 is really stupid considering there's spam of 4 quadrillion blocks and you only have to use three of them but the rest is fine. For Girimehkala, why didn't you intentionally get Muted by random encounters? That solves the entire fight, doesn't it? I feel like Girimehkala should be totally fine if you just get phys null off Arahabaki and let that coast you to victory. You'd need a mind null to stop Arahabaki from giving extra turns to Panic Voice unless you got Arakabaki muted too but it still sounds preferable to grinding to level 58! For Red Rider, I still feel as long as you kill both Powers at the same time, then you're better off than leaving them alive. You can't Sukukaja buff, so you aren't getting avoids, so Red Rider gets one turn, they get one each, then he gets one after. If you kill them, he Dragon Eyes to five turns, uses two summoning them, they get one turn each, then he gets only one to attack you. Sounds like a decent option if you can't penalize his turns, and Attack Mirror spam is the only way to do that. Oh, also if you have at least 3 allies alive, and are particularly unlucky, Terrorblade can hit one target 3 times, like 3 trucks. Lol, lmao even. But yeah Dekaja Rocks make it fine. For Kin-Ki, you should've been throwing Mabufu Rocks. Unlike Girimehkala, he can be frozen, which nullifies his physical resistance. With that and Arahabaki he should be fine...keyword should because debuffs suuuuuuuuuuck. You can swap out demons to remove them like White Rider, though! Ah, at Pale Rider I now see why you've not been swapping out demons - because someone told you they have to die to have their stats reset. Well, sorry, not the case. You could've been swapping to cut your debuffs this whole time. Hey, at least this is the fight where that matters the least, since you can't swap out Demi-Fiend and he's what matters here! I'm still shocked you first tried this even overlevelled - -4 in all stats on Demi Fiend + Loas suiciding = game fucking over.
Well played, anyone with the sheer dedication to do this is impressive, especially for Lucifer. I know the Lucifer fight in Chronicles has that Diarahan condition at 40k damage, and now I wonder if Nyarly's attempt at it buffless was affected by using the Maniax version to bypass the softlock and grinding? cause he does have that fight recorded, and yeah, Lucifer never uses Diarahan. Regardless, very well done on your part.
Cant wait to watch this later!! I swear i watched the stream vods at least twice. Excited to see all your hard work editing this dense banger of a challenge run. Merry christmas Nitsua, thanks for the present.
32:25 This is so funny for some reason, and I didn't even know about the "Pisaca Situation" until I saw his comment section of his Run without Buffs or Debuffs of Strange Jorney (Because I thought it was a joke I didn't understand).
I remember taking about 2 hours and 40 minutes trying to actually do puzzle boy with no guides, I did about the first 16 or so stages which I was impressed by, but then seeing the last 4 I legitimately gave up and took an extra 20 minutes or so even while following the guide because I had to make sure I was doing it step by step correctly
52 min- to give the great will some credit here, I think the only reason why those couple of murders in the park sparked the end of the world was because Yuko was emo and wanted the world to end because she was sad (legitimately she tells you she was sad about there being a bunch of people being unhappy in the world and there being people that do bad things, so she was sad about it and Hikawa helped push her into being nihilistic like him and just wanting to end the entire world and she thought to start over with a fresh slate while Hikawa just wanted everything blank and void forever) and Hikawa actively went about setting up the stuff needed to trigger it with her support via ritual sacrifice and such Very well done to managing to finish this mad idea
"Death of yhe devil hunter" sounds like sucb an understatement since in his own series Dante, in his won words "has been stabbed and jabbed by a lot of things" already not to mention "dying"
underrated channel, nice content as usual. I've been playing smt5 V recently and it is so much fun. In my opinion best jrpg now, in terms of gameplay. Hope You will do challenges in smt5V too. Thank you for great content!
That's a good question. Didn't realized that. So I looked at the stream footage and Dante got muted because I used a muscle drink to heal him. An item that has a chance of a negative side effect. I just didn't bother to cure the mute as there's no point in curing an ailment that means nothing in this challenge run.
Definitely a for a man challenge. It's interesting but dang this is pure hard and almost masochism at some points. Glad your sanity is intact right Nitsua?
Just to let you know, the leveling up lowering magic damage, crit chance, and accuracy was all changed in the had version. The videos you linked are about the ps2 release.
Cant wait to see demifiend sliding forward and punching demons for 3 hours straight
I like to think he could just walk up like a normal person but he has the sick sliding power and he's gonna use it.
Persona protagonist: "Time to destroy God with the power of friendship!"
SMT protagonist: "Time to destroy my friends with the power of God"
Since I have a skill issue this challenge is just me playing the game normally 😎
You can totally escape battles on Hard! The chance is just 0%. And no, that isn't me fucking with you - if you bypass the chance check, you can escape. This is done by ailmenting all the enemies and then Escaping. In the remake, there's a weird bug where ailments get cured faster, so this is pretty annoying...though this is how low level runs of Nocturne are done; early game, you have to fish for Zio shocks to escape battles and if you fail, you have to reload your save - miserable stuff. Alternatively you can also just get an Aeros and Erthys before entering the network and talk to the battles to forcibly end them - doesn't work on Choronzon, though...
Troll is easy, even on this run. All you have to do is use the 2 Mahama Rocks you have access to by this point. Troll has no resistance to them whatsoever so you can very well kill him off this and skip the fight entirely. There's no reason you have to even think about this one.
Other challenge runs usually either ban Dark Might because it's really OP or are running solo where you can't get it, so Dante proves a real tough nut to crack. Doesn't help that his attacks have absurdly high accuracy (over 100%) so Sukukajas are mostly useless. Here, though, where Dark Might is literally the only thing you can grasp, he doesn't seem so bad.
Watchful is 50% of EXP, btw.
Cursed corridor halves HP with every three steps. So yeah, grinding HP doesn't really help much!
You probably should be killing the Virtues on White Rider's fight. With what you were doing, they'd begin physically attacking you and that'd be bad, but if you swap out a demon every time you get to -4 Rakundas, they'll keep wasting their time doing it, and on each turn you kill them, the enemy gets three turns post-summoning the Virtues instead of their usual four. If you had a team of Repel Fire users, I could definitely see it being worth it to try to get White Rider to use Prominence to skip his turn entirely, but I don't think you did at this point.
Puzzle Boy: lol git gud
I absolutely get using a guide for this if you're here just for punching God in the face, but come on, you found the other puzzles fine, why not dedicate an afternoon to the block puzzle game? Level 19 is really stupid considering there's spam of 4 quadrillion blocks and you only have to use three of them but the rest is fine.
For Girimehkala, why didn't you intentionally get Muted by random encounters? That solves the entire fight, doesn't it? I feel like Girimehkala should be totally fine if you just get phys null off Arahabaki and let that coast you to victory. You'd need a mind null to stop Arahabaki from giving extra turns to Panic Voice unless you got Arakabaki muted too but it still sounds preferable to grinding to level 58!
For Red Rider, I still feel as long as you kill both Powers at the same time, then you're better off than leaving them alive. You can't Sukukaja buff, so you aren't getting avoids, so Red Rider gets one turn, they get one each, then he gets one after. If you kill them, he Dragon Eyes to five turns, uses two summoning them, they get one turn each, then he gets only one to attack you. Sounds like a decent option if you can't penalize his turns, and Attack Mirror spam is the only way to do that. Oh, also if you have at least 3 allies alive, and are particularly unlucky, Terrorblade can hit one target 3 times, like 3 trucks. Lol, lmao even. But yeah Dekaja Rocks make it fine.
For Kin-Ki, you should've been throwing Mabufu Rocks. Unlike Girimehkala, he can be frozen, which nullifies his physical resistance. With that and Arahabaki he should be fine...keyword should because debuffs suuuuuuuuuuck. You can swap out demons to remove them like White Rider, though!
Ah, at Pale Rider I now see why you've not been swapping out demons - because someone told you they have to die to have their stats reset. Well, sorry, not the case. You could've been swapping to cut your debuffs this whole time. Hey, at least this is the fight where that matters the least, since you can't swap out Demi-Fiend and he's what matters here! I'm still shocked you first tried this even overlevelled - -4 in all stats on Demi Fiend + Loas suiciding = game fucking over.
Babe, wake up, new Nitsua Gamer video dropped. Time to sit for three hour straight for the dumbest idea on youtoube.
Well played, anyone with the sheer dedication to do this is impressive, especially for Lucifer.
I know the Lucifer fight in Chronicles has that Diarahan condition at 40k damage, and now I wonder if Nyarly's attempt at it buffless was affected by using the Maniax version to bypass the softlock and grinding? cause he does have that fight recorded, and yeah, Lucifer never uses Diarahan.
Regardless, very well done on your part.
Ah, what an amazing journey,
I was there & i can't wait to go on another journey~
What a... Strange Journey, you could say
@furiouscorgi6614 indeed let's just hope it's not the Last Surprise for us
@FankyRonald some Mass Destruction might happen if it was
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS RETURN OF THE KING
3 hour SMT 3 challenge run, let's goooo!
NitsuaGamer uploading PEAK!
Cant wait to watch this later!! I swear i watched the stream vods at least twice. Excited to see all your hard work editing this dense banger of a challenge run. Merry christmas Nitsua, thanks for the present.
32:25
This is so funny for some reason, and I didn't even know about the "Pisaca Situation" until I saw his comment section of his Run without Buffs or Debuffs of Strange Jorney (Because I thought it was a joke I didn't understand).
Yooo i only started drinking beer and here is the snack
wait hold on don't eat the video I still need to watch it
@@chessterstone it's a big ass snack there's enough for everyone
I remember taking about 2 hours and 40 minutes trying to actually do puzzle boy with no guides, I did about the first 16 or so stages which I was impressed by, but then seeing the last 4 I legitimately gave up and took an extra 20 minutes or so even while following the guide because I had to make sure I was doing it step by step correctly
Seeing you give up Focus literally brought a tear to my eye, I actually almost cried.
3 hour nitsua video? Im in
Jeez, the effort put into this is insane, you’re a g nitsua
This is a certified NitsuaGamer classic
When the hardest boss of the game is the lack of QoL future games have
Thematically it fits for how much of a super boss Demi-fiend is in cameos
52 min- to give the great will some credit here, I think the only reason why those couple of murders in the park sparked the end of the world was because Yuko was emo and wanted the world to end because she was sad (legitimately she tells you she was sad about there being a bunch of people being unhappy in the world and there being people that do bad things, so she was sad about it and Hikawa helped push her into being nihilistic like him and just wanting to end the entire world and she thought to start over with a fresh slate while Hikawa just wanted everything blank and void forever) and Hikawa actively went about setting up the stuff needed to trigger it with her support via ritual sacrifice and such
Very well done to managing to finish this mad idea
THE GOAT IS BACK !!!!!
Just finished watching. Good job. :)
Fun video. Commenting for the algorithm.
Wow look at that nerd being a channel member despite not being mentioned in over a year
@@DeadShoot48659 😂
love to see your back 😁😁😁
Excellent video!
Oh yeahhh this is gonna be awesome
thank you for the great content and fun streams :), you also inspired me to buy the game
"Death of yhe devil hunter" sounds like sucb an understatement since in his own series Dante, in his won words "has been stabbed and jabbed by a lot of things" already not to mention "dying"
Lol, love the Nyarly reference
Goat uploaded
underrated channel, nice content as usual. I've been playing smt5 V recently and it is so much fun. In my opinion best jrpg now, in terms of gameplay. Hope You will do challenges in smt5V too. Thank you for great content!
These challenge runs show the reality of SMT Nocturne devs hating the players, there's a lot of dumb decisions for apparently no reason
How is Dante Sealed in the Ahriman fight? Hes supposed to be immune to Ailments.
That's a good question. Didn't realized that. So I looked at the stream footage and Dante got muted because I used a muscle drink to heal him. An item that has a chance of a negative side effect. I just didn't bother to cure the mute as there's no point in curing an ailment that means nothing in this challenge run.
@NitsuaGamer So I guess that means Muscle Drink ailments, unlike in SMT 5, can actually affect demons who should be immune.
Definitely a for a man challenge. It's interesting but dang this is pure hard and almost masochism at some points. Glad your sanity is intact right Nitsua?
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Just to let you know, the leveling up lowering magic damage, crit chance, and accuracy was all changed in the had version. The videos you linked are about the ps2 release.
I'm pretty sure it was not changed, and there's definitely evidence of inferior magic damage and physical accuracy later in the run.
Man that's epic, what a run.
I felt PHYSICAL pain seeing you discard focus..
oh yeah, we're eating good tonight boys.
Ah can you beat nocyurne by mashing x
insane
24:15 I dubbed it Full Moon Shuffle.
1:49:42 FISH.
Youre playing smt with 3 characters lol but i wouldn't do this challenge let alone all 4 of my team only use attack camand
What lol