Gosh, Prima Donna & Femme Fatale’s storylines have been making my head swirl for hours. Most of these characters have names according to Yasutatsu’s pixiv. From what I’ve been able to piece, Manon (red hair) is the daughter of Gret and Garcia before he abandoned them. While Amber (black hair) is the son of Anna with her previous black haired lover before Gret took her freedom away. As revenge for Gret leaving her and her mother, she kills her father. Gret raised Amber as his son which is why Manon meets him at the funeral. She approaches him as his half-sister, but seduces him with the intent to take what she believes is rightfully hers. This is why he covers his eyes in shame, believing he is committing incest with Manon. However his hair is black and his eyes are droopy, traits that belong to Anna’s previous lover. Manon orders Amber to remove all traces of his mother (aka “The Other Woman”) from their house. Hence the shadow of the frames and Anna and Amber’s wings. From Femme Fatale, there were actually two children. The first depicted being Manon with Gret’s first wife Garcia, and the second at the end being Amber. So at some point Gret kicked his first wife and child out of their home. (Manon’s hair as a child is black possibly for ambiguity, symbolism, or color blindness, another theory further down in the comments). Her hair changes color during the sex scene to show they are “siblings” and are committing incest as a sin. Rather than being born an “angel”, Manon could have possibly made a pact to become one to gain the power to kill. Which is why her wings are tainted in black.
WAIT SO THE MAN HERE IS THE SON OF THE ANGEL AND HUMAN FROM 'FEME FATALE' ?!? he has the same hair colour of the baby from the previous MV and he also has his mother's eyes and eyelashes In the previous MV , his father cut the wings of both him and his mother and him and hung them on the wall ( you can see the dust marks left on the wall left by the wings on 2:38 ) But if he is following his father's footsteps on imprisoning his loved one , he should have just cut the wings ( which is still bad but alas 🥲) MAN HUNG THE WHOLE WOMAN ON THE WALL 😭😭😭😭 "Brima Donna" is also "a slang for people who get angry when they don't get what they want or if they are not number one " here , it may be implied for both the man and woman in the MV , since both of them want to be the upper hand .
quite late but I translated the song! :D 0:00 Title プリマドンナ Prima donna Desc. 誰もがキミに夢中？ Is everybody obsessed with you? 0:17 意味なんてない There’s no meaning to it ただなんとなく そう It’s just, one way or another, right, 気に入らない I don’t like this 日々縋っていたい I want to cling to you each and every day 足の下 見下ろしていたい I want to look down under your feet 0:33 仔猫のように歌う Just like a kitten, you sing キミは今日も妖艶に舞う Today too, you dance so bewitchingly 皆が言う 謳う 曰く According to everyone’s praises, you’re 「世界で一番綺麗」だってさ “The most beautiful of them all” they say 仔猫のように歌う Just like a kitten, you sing キミは今日も誰かを嗤う Today too, you sneer at someone 0:50 Sing, Sing, Sing Prima donna 誰もがキミに夢中 Everybody’s obsessed with you Sing, Sing, Sing Prima donna キミには誰も及ばない Not a single one can match you 1:07 んなわけないだろ Of course, that can’t be it ひとりじゃ何もできない Nobody can do anything by their own ガキの使いのがマシ I'd rather do errands for some brat キミはほら また誰かを嗤う Yet again, look, you’re sneering at someone 嗤われてるのはキミのほうかも Maybe you’re the one that’s being sneered at 1:24 意味なんてない There’s no meaning to it ただなんとなく It’s just, one way or another, 気に入らない I don’t like this 日々縋っていたい I want to cling to you each and every day 足の下 見下ろしていたい I want to look down under your feet 1:36 「愛してないけど愛されたいわ」 “I don’t love you, but I want to be loved” わかるよわかる キミは本当に I know it, I know, truthfully you are しょうもない 品もない worthless, unrefined 小さなプライドだけ抱えてて Just someone holding dear to their tiny pride 2:04 Sing, Sing, Sing Prima donna 誰もがキミに夢中 Everybody’s obsessed with you Sing, Sing, Sing Prima donna キミには誰も及ばない Not a single one can match you 2:21 んなわけないよな That can’t be it, right? 妬む心は一人前か いやむしろ Is this envious heart for a single person? No, if anything… もうキミひとりでさ 百人力だ Now you’re all alone, here’s the strength of a hundred people そろそろ飽きた？ いつまでそこにいる Are you tired of this now? Till when will you reach that? 2:44 意味なんてない？ There’s no meaning to it? ただなんとなく気に入らない？ It’s just, one way or another, you don’t like it? 日々ビビってない？ Don’t you feel afraid each and every day? 足の下 見下ろしてさ Look down what’s under your feet
Theory time! From what can be understood, Manon, the woman named Prima Donna, is very much related to the red-haired woman from "Femme Fatale", the "Father"'s initial love interest. She very much possibly kills him for revenge, either for the red-haired woman or the Femme Fatale, that is also a sort of "Angel" like her (and could be also related by bond instead of blood). However, Manon's wings are not as large as hers, and are "dirtied" on the ends, showing that her skills are amateur compared to hers, and Manon seems to be more reckless and lets her pride take the best of her, unlike Femme Fatale that seems way colder and patient and better at hiding her true emotions (therefore more convincing and willing to take in acting - she stills tries to seduce the Father even when manacled, while Manon rapidly breaks down when she's caught!) Amber, the son of Femme Fatale, has his wings stole as a baby, and were indeed rather large for his size! If they were kept on his back, they'd probably grow as large as his mother's by the time he's older, hinting he's as cold and as good in manipulating as her, so much he very easily and successfully seduces Manon - a True Homme Fatale! Amber, takes his mother's eyes, lashes and personality, but nothing from his father, and because of his hair color, could imply he isn't his real father, but nonetheless, raised him because he was the son of the woman he "loved". At the end of Femme Fatale, we see she was taken to the very house the "Father" used to share with the red-haired woman and had her wings cutted, and by proxy, her Freedom - as well as her son's. The beggining of FF can be read as an illusion of the Father of creating a perfect family but because of an implied troubled relationship with his lover, is left adrift until meeting the woman of his dreams (the Femme Angel) and begins a very distorted version of family with her as she continued to live with them, but without her wings (1:22). Father actually "loved" Amber's mother, and maybe dearly held to his dellusion as truth. However, Amber looks pretty much down on Manon(1:42 and 2:30), and what to seems to put him on edge was the atempt of stealing his and his mother's wings (1:18), prossibly as "trophies" for her own use. By trying to seduce him, and being his Lover, Manon maybe wanted to infiltrate inside the house to "own" it as her own, a part of her revenge plot, and the stealing was the straw that broke the camel's back. I think he never loved her and actually was pretending to have a dreamy look ( 0:40 )to entrap her - pretending to be manipulated. Manon kills the 'Father', plays the house as her own, seduces the Son and sleeps with him, which means she pretty much got what she wanted. Revenge fulfilled is time to sneak away but oops! 2:19 Amber won't let her go so easily. She had her revenge, now's his time for his. In the end Amber continues the cycle and has a child with Manon, a "payment" for having taking his father's life, and is hung as a "trophy" in place of the wings she once so wanted. On the final seconds, he finally looks up to her, "under her feet" Loved every part of it
while I think the half-sibling approach is creative, there's a flaw,, namely stemming from the first scene of femme fatale. In the first scene, the ginger woman (I'll refer to as Ginger) who was in FF MC's locket is present, and is very clearly friendly with the femme fatale child. If "primadonna" was Ginger and MC's child, wouldn't she have been raised in the same house? Although I don't have any other theories, I can only speculate that "Primadonna" is a different relative of the Ginger, still seeking vengeance. Perhaps "Primadonna" thought it was pitiful that Ginger was taking care of another women's child. Or perhaps, "Primadonna" has no relation to Ginger from Femme Fatale,, and that the ginger hair is meant to contrast the "pure love" of Ginger, with the fact that "Primadonna" is more of a "femme fatale" figure. This comparison reflects in the fact that the femme fatale child, or MC of this video, repeats what his father did: falling for both the same type of woman... ginger and a player.
I like to think that instead of being an angel herself, orange girl is wearing the son's wings like clothing or an accessory. My thought process behind this is mainly because the wings don't fit on her proportionally the same way that femme fatale's did
whoaa that's crazy, I thought it was a metaphor that she was only starting her adultery career so they weren't that big but that would make sense why she doesn't have them all the time and why he was collecting the feathers and got depressed
That would be such a cool detail. But i don't really think that's true because if we compare Prima donna's wings to son's wings in the femme fatale mv hers look bigger
What's really interesting to me is at 1:36 when Prima is laying on the bed, her orange hair is rendered in greyscale like most everything is, but her pendant retains it's scarlet colour. In this MV, colour seems very important, and though at a glance they look the same, the orange in her hair seems to be functionally different from the orange in her eyes and pendant. Her eyes almost seem to emit their own radiance, and the pendant similarly never has shadow applied to it, but her hair can be away in shade. As opposed to the Femme Fatale, whose only hint of red her her eyes, only seen at the end of the song, Prima is orange from the second we see her. I feel like it's worth considering that the orange we see of her most of the video, though, is an external, almost decorative trait. I think, if you were to think of orange as "selfishness" then it seems like the selfishness she shows most of the time is like a superficial trait, almost harmless in how over it is, which doesn't hold up when awash in her truer colours. She wears brattiness, the primadonna persona, like a mask for her truest self. Underneath it, though, she still has that realer, harsher greed; wanting to be loved but not love in turn, which is why the pendant retains its colour when her hair, her "persona", does not. I think this greed, too, is part of why she stays that last night, and what ultimately dooms her; even if she will leave, even though it's not her truest goal, she desires that love and that intimacy. Something I've been pondering regarding her design, is that the two times we see her wings, they are tipped with black feathers at the edges, and they are also quite small compared the the Femme Fatale's wings, who was about the same size as her otherwise. This could suggest a variance in size, but I think, actually, that her wings Should be the same size, but that some of her feathers are just missing--or rather, relocated. I don't think its a coincidence that the feathers of her boa are black, as are the tips of her wings, when all the other wings we've seen thus far are white. Wings often symbolize freedom, and I believe that applies here, as well; Femme Fatale's wings are ripped off, stealing her freedom. Prima, however, doesn't even seem to have wings for most of the song. Since the wings are largely symbolic, I think we can interpret her as having "hidden" them for most of the time, without fussing over the logistics of where in reality her wings would have fit if that were the case. Where the Femme Fatale wings, her freedom, were an obvious part of who she was, and arguably part of here beauty, Prima's wings are hidden in all but two scenes. The illusion of being tied down, of a steady relationship. She wears the feather of her own wings as if to show, my feathers have already been plucked, see? I wouldn't go anywhere. Even the symbol of those wings is lost in the night's events, another little way of saying she's setting aside her freedom to stay here. And yet, after their last night together, we see the wings, smaller than they should be, not large enough to fly on, but still there. As she leaves, she picks up her discarded feather boa, her feathers, and drapes them around and behind her like wings. Clipping her wings does not diminish her desire for complete freedom, nor does she intend to let it stop her from achieving it. The other part of the feather symbolism to consider in her feathered garment is that these feathers are black. The wings, normally symbolizing freedom, in a way reflect qualities of the souls of the women who have them. Black on clothing and accessories is elegant, and perfectly suitable for a funeral; a black soul would be considered a very ominous thing indeed. I think for Prima, black is hatred, or malice; by pulling the feathers in her wings that are white, she can hide this malice belongs to her (because if they're just clothes, they can be dyed). The beginning seems to imply that Prima killed her partner's father, the male lead from Femme Fatale. If considering the concept of Prima having entered her relationship as a way to get close enough to the father to kill him, then the feathers can be interpreted another way: she has sacrificed a portion of her freedom, hidden away her own desire for flight, for the sake of realizing her vendetta. She's plucked her wings in order to make funeral clothes. Then there is the man, whose eyes are orange but "human", never hidden because they do not seem like a threat. But though the colour, the "selfishness", comes from his mother, the anatomy of the eye is his father's. His perception and understanding shaped by his father, who raised him in a house where his mother's and his own severed wings were pinned up as a display on the wall. Desire is tempered through this frame of reference; to want something is to pin it down such that it cannot ever escape you. I think that's why he does what he does at the end; if clipping her wings will not trap Prima in place, then he will make it so that she cannot move at all. Whether he ever actually loved her, in the end, doesn't matter, because he will make sure he owns her.
KEDARUI WITH ANOTHER MASTERPIECE LET'S GOOO From what I understand, this is a sequel to Femme Fatale and it takes years after the main events. Our protagonists are the son of the male lead from Femme Fatale and a new angel girl who I'm gonna refer as Prima Donna. I can't say much since there seems to not be an official translation yet so I'll theorize through the visuals. FF MC is killed by 'Primadonna' and during the funeral, she assists and meets his son ( I can not tell if she does know or not if he is the son of the FF MC but I'll assume she does due to her approach ) She charms the man and both of them become a 'couple' and both of them sleep together, but due to Primadonna's confidence, she falls into the man's trap who shows to know who she truly is and be it due to revenge or something else, kidnaps her and eventually possibly kills her. ( This due to the fact our new male lead is holding a baby in his arms and behind him, legs are hanging indicating that she may have suffered the same fate as our FF angel. ) And so, the cycle continues. I'm absolutely obsessed with these characters and their lore, and I hope we get a tl soon so I can properly update this theory!
Good analysis, I would like to know if you know what's he's holding in 1:18, I think it's a pair of wings, the feathers look kind of small to be the wings of the FF from the previous song, so I think it's, in fact, his wings that he's holding. And after seeing PiplupPalace commenting Primadonna's wings at 1:55, I'm sure that he's holding his wings. Primadonna "betrayed" the FF MC's son, I will elaborate: maybe he did know that she killed his father, but he may loved her sincerely and after his father's death, he was craving for love, so didn't care. But then she wore his wings, his freedom, he realized that was in the palm of her hands... And we know the rest Yeah, he did know what she really was but the wings are symbolic in this story, so I think it was a big deal. (This is my interpretation)
@@Karmabud-Sirius The main reason as to why I believe it was Primadonna is because at the intro sequence, we are shown the killer in question who has specifically orange eyes and large 'claws' - when we reach near the conclusion of the song, Primadonna is caught by the current MC and we're shown the same eyes and a glimpse of her hands; through most of the song, she seems to have short nails but it seems that angels have retractable nails or at least Primadonna does because her nails seem to be longer at this very moment. I'm still unsure as to why she would exactly target the FF MC and would attempt to approach his son, be it for revenge or simply opportunity but I hope translations come out soon or maybe even a third part for the series!
@@diachuchu Great observation ! I didn't look closely enough at the victim's silhouette. And because of another comment, I started thinking that this figure with orange eyes might be the son in the future. Since they're not the same, but he does have orange colored eyes from his mother. Your theory makes a lot of sense ! Such a sad story though
Oh man this is a continuation of Femme Fatale!! The father's death at the beginning, the result of his son following his footsteps, and the woman he falls in "love" with also being an "angel"... I wonder what the red eyes represent. I think the first shots of the intro was the mother killing his father and running away (red eyes, followed by the father's funeral scene), then when the son's lover does her performance, he's cradling feathers she shed, cutting back to memories of his and his mother's wings, and of his mother- which begins this whole downward spiral. She then "comforts" him, which leads him to follow the path of his father. edit: in addition, you can see how the new female protagonist also has "claws" at the end which the mysterious figure at the beginning uses to kill the father. Femme Fatale was of a young man who tried to prevent his love interest from leaving, cutting her wings, but she kills him and runs away. Their son, seeing this, then has a warped view. When his love interest attempts to slip away, he kills her to prevent any chance of her running away. A cycle of abuse that grows worse... I wonder if the grandchild will do better and break this cycle...?
Lyrics: Imi nante nai Tada nantonaku so Kiniiranai Hibi sugatte itai Ashi no shita mioroshite itai Koneko no you ni utau Kimi wa kyou mo youen ni mau Minna ga iu utau iwaku "Sekai de ichiban kirei" datte sa Koneko no you ni utau Kimi wa kyou mo dareka o warau Sing,sing,sing Prima Donna Dare mo ga kimi ni muchuu Sing,sing,sing Prima Donna Kimi ni wa dare mo oyobanai Nna wake nai daro Hitori ja nani mo dekinai Gaki no tsukai no ga mashi Kimi wa hora mata dareka o warau Warawareteru no wa kimi no hou kamo Imi nante nai Tada nantonaku Ki ni iranai Hibi sugatte itai Ashi no shita mioroshite itai "Ashitenai kedo aisaretai wa" Wakaru yo wakaru kimi wa hontou ni Shou mo nai hin mo nai Chiisana puraido dake kakaetete Sing,sing,sing Prima Donna Dare mo ga kimi ni muchuu Sing,sing,sing Prima Donna Kimi ni wa dare mo oyobanai Nna wake nai yo na Netamu kokoro wa ichininmae ka iya mushiro Mou kimi hitori de sa hyakuninriki da Sorosoro akita? itsumade soko ni iru Imi nante nai? Tada nantonaku ki ni iranai? Hibi bibitte nai? Ashi no shita mioroshite sa
[Plot speculation](by my friend) 1. 0:00-0:08 From the pupil color, it is very likely that the murderer is the heroine. 2. 0:15 From the scar on the mouth, it can be seen that the deceased is the hero of the previous work (Deadly Girl), that is, the father of the hero. 3, 0:26 The hero and heroine met at his father's funeral. 0:41 The heroine has the same hair color as the male protagonist's adoptive mother, and the male protagonist stares at the heroine's hair with an infatuated look. This may be a metaphor, which means that the heroine has some characteristics similar to the male protagonist's adoptive mother, so it deeply attracts the male protagonist (the pupil color of the male protagonist) It is the same color as the mother's hair color, which may imply that the hero has a love affair plot, and the meaning of "the eyes are full of you") 4, 1:08-1:19-1:25 Three key nodes, it is speculated that three things happened. (Node 1) The heroine sneered: The heroine may have told him the origin of the hero and smashed the happy family that the hero had created in the past (it is speculated that the hero should not have known that he was not raised by his mother at first, so he fell into a collapse after learning the truth) (Node 2) The hero took off the previous photo frame and wings on the wall: the hero learned the truth, knew his father's betrayal of his adoptive mother, and knew that what his father cherished on the wall was the relics of his father's "white moonlight" (birth mother). (Node 3) The hero cried and was pulled forward by the heroine: The hero was very sad after learning the truth (at this time, the low brightness in the film represents the hazy state of mind of the hero). At this time, the heroine comforted and accompanied him forward. 5. 1:36 The heroine's hair color disappeared, implying that at this moment, the hero finally no longer regards him as a person similar to his adoptive mother, but looks at the heroine herself. However, it is worth noting that the pupils of the male protagonist are still the same (which may imply that the admiration for the adoptive mother still exists in the bottom of his heart). 6. 1:57-1:58 The heroine showed her wings after the hero fell asleep (the wings are closely related to the biological mother, and it can be speculated that the heroine showed "evil" or "traits" similar to the biological mother. From the above clip, it can be known that the existence of the male protagonist's biological mother is a big shadow on the male protagonist), but I didn't expect that the hero actually pretended to sleep 2: 04 (According to the rationality of the plot here, I speculate that the "evil" shown by the heroine is as "playing with people's hearts" as her biological mother - the biological mother is messing everywhere; the heroine is deliberately murdering the hero's father but deliberately approaching the male protagonist who does not know the truth, falling in love with the male protagonist and playing with his feelings.) 7, 2:22 The heroine played, and the hero learned the truth and avenged his father. 8, 2:58 The heroine was hung in the place where she used to hang her biological mother's wings, which is a metaphor for the two women to a similar ending.
LOVING THE SONG AND THE THEORIES STORY CONTINUATION FROM FEMME FATALE AAAA!! The black haired MC is the result of the femme fatale angel girl with the black haired dude at the bar meanwhile the primadonna girl is the result of femme fatale mc and orange woman at the beginning making this a complete mix of revenge plan. I like to think that she went there and wanted to take revenge on him by taking everything from primadonna mc starting with his family and ending with his love but she was caught mid act by the mc because he's always been catious, but it didnt matter to him. He had a child with her because he learnt from his dad that this is how to love when the woman is not submitting to you and she probably ended her life after giving birth, the reason why black haired mc is holding baby under her body is maybe because the baby hadnt seen the mothers face and he thinks itd be better to let the baby have a last look. Or it could be because of his own personal sadism. Or... the reason he had a kid with her is because he realised hes not related to his dad but she is so he wanted to keep his dads bloodline going.... that would be kinda fucked up though. I just know that the generational trauma is gonna continue with the new baby 🥲
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悲しいところに寄り添ってくれた女性を愛したけど、父を殺した人だと分かり、憎いけど愛も残ってしまったのかな
ファムファタルのほうでは純粋で無邪気に人を振り回してる天使だけど、プリマドンナは狡猾で計画的で妖艶な悪魔なのかも
Gosh, Prima Donna & Femme Fatale’s storylines have been making my head swirl for hours. Most of these characters have names according to Yasutatsu’s pixiv.
From what I’ve been able to piece, Manon (red hair) is the daughter of Gret and Garcia before he abandoned them. While Amber (black hair) is the son of Anna with her previous black haired lover before Gret took her freedom away.
As revenge for Gret leaving her and her mother, she kills her father.
Gret raised Amber as his son which is why Manon meets him at the funeral. She approaches him as his half-sister, but seduces him with the intent to take what she believes is rightfully hers. This is why he covers his eyes in shame, believing he is committing incest with Manon. However his hair is black and his eyes are droopy, traits that belong to Anna’s previous lover.
Manon orders Amber to remove all traces of his mother (aka “The Other Woman”) from their house. Hence the shadow of the frames and Anna and Amber’s wings.
From Femme Fatale, there were actually two children. The first depicted being Manon with Gret’s first wife Garcia, and the second at the end being Amber. So at some point Gret kicked his first wife and child out of their home. (Manon’s hair as a child is black possibly for ambiguity, symbolism, or color blindness, another theory further down in the comments). Her hair changes color during the sex scene to show they are “siblings” and are committing incest as a sin.
Rather than being born an “angel”, Manon could have possibly made a pact to become one to gain the power to kill. Which is why her wings are tainted in black.
2人の互いに思う感情がなんにせよ、女性の方は(おそらく逃亡？)する前に最後にキスするくらいには彼を愛していたんじゃないかと思うと、女性が男性に捕まってしまうシーンで泣いていたのは恐怖で泣いていたのもあったんだろうけど、「あたしの前でそんな顔しないでよ」っていう愛している人に向けられた瞳の冷たさに涙を流してたのもあるのかな。
もし､プリマドンナがクラシックバレエと同じ意味で用いているのだとしたら､
歌うことの無いバレエで表現に必要な脚をぶった切って飾っているのなら､
天使や悪魔の羽をちぎって飾るくらいには重い愛だな｡
言葉まとまらねぇ
ファムファタルもプリマドンナも「惚れた女がハマったらだめな女だった」とか「そもそも関わったらだめだとわかってる女と関係を持ってしまった」みたいな雰囲気が漂ってて好き
人の目には赤、青、緑を識別する錐体があるらしいのですよ。
ファムファタルの男の子→壁、背景が緑、「赤く染まる頬の感触♪」から赤に敏感で青が見えない色盲(赤は激烈の意)
プリマドンナの男の子→壁、背景赤で嫉妬が強調された歌詞から緑に敏感で青が見えない(緑は嫉妬の象徴)
ちなみに色盲は遺伝的なもので男性がなりやすいらしい
ふたりとも「博愛」の意味を持つ青が見えない。天使たちの魔性を理解できず許容できない……………とか考えてFoooooooo!!!なってます
Google先生に頼った付け焼き刃知識ですので、不適切な表現をしちゃってないかが心配……ですが共有したかったのだ！
最後に男性に運ばれていく女性、腕の開きが羽に見えるの確実にファムファタルとの関連性があってすこすぎる
『見下ろす』が最初は見下す、みたいな意味なのに最後は上の方に飾ってあるから『見下ろす』なの怖すぎて最高
女性の抱きかかえてるシーン、腕が垂れ下がり方が背中から生えてる天使の羽の様に見えて好き
意図してるかわからないけど...
後は通路でバレた時の「口塞がれる構図」が凄い癖に刺さりました
ファムファタルの子供が大きくなって父と同じことを繰り返す…ｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞ
1:06のとこからのオレンジの女の子がシルエットだけになって、髪の毛がふぁさふぁさしてるの、好きなの私だけかな…
最後のシーンの男の子の顔、「本当に君に心から夢中になってるとでも？君って自分含めて本当に見た目だけしか見ないんだね」って感じで今までの顔が嘘みたいに心底冷めた顔してるの本当に好き
2:38 2:38
ファムファタルで飾られてた翼や額縁の日焼け跡が残ってるこのシーン、最初見たときすごい滾った
そして、男の表情が0:40 0:40 と 2:30 2:30 で正反対なの、ファムファタルでも同じようなシーンがあって最高なのよ
※考察注意
オレンジの女は自分が魅力的だからと周りを見下していた。一方、男はそんな彼女に惹かれながらもどこか気に入らなかった。
彼女が魅力的に見えたのは、実は男とその母親の羽で作った黒い飾りのおかげだった。さらに父親を殺した犯人も彼女だった(ファムファタル見て)
肉親を殺された挙句、母の形見と自分を利用されていたことに気づいた男は怒り狂う。しかし、完全に彼女を嫌いになれなかったのか、はたまた天使の本能なのか、最後にはこうなってしまった。
ファムファタルに然り"愛憎"って感じが本当すこです！
・冒頭での殺人鬼の目が赤色
・棺桶内の男性の口元にファムファタールの父親と同じ傷&ロケットペンダントが投げ込まれている
・ラスサビの女の手をよく見ると…
個人的には女は男から父を奪い心の隙を作ってそこにつけ込むことで男の心を手に入れる為に殺人に手を染めたのかなと！
・葬式で真っ先に男の元へ行く（&男に手を取られた後笑っている）
・寝ている男性にキスをしている（好きじゃないならわざわざしないはず）
Thank you guys for figuring out stuff like this and theorizing, it makes everything much more fun and better
@@フブキ-l6bI think maybe it is a goodbye kiss..
WAIT SO THE MAN HERE IS THE SON OF THE ANGEL AND HUMAN FROM 'FEME FATALE' ?!?
he has the same hair colour of the baby from the previous MV and he also has his mother's eyes and eyelashes
In the previous MV , his father cut the wings of both him and his mother and him and hung them on the wall ( you can see the dust marks left on the wall left by the wings on 2:38 )
But if he is following his father's footsteps on imprisoning his loved one , he should have just cut the wings ( which is still bad but alas 🥲) MAN HUNG THE WHOLE WOMAN ON THE WALL 😭😭😭😭
"Brima Donna" is also "a slang for people who get angry when they don't get what they want or if they are not number one " here , it may be implied for both the man and woman in the MV , since both of them want to be the upper hand .
quite late but I translated the song! :D
0:00
Title
プリマドンナ
Prima donna
Desc.
誰もがキミに夢中？
Is everybody obsessed with you?
0:17
意味なんてない
There’s no meaning to it
ただなんとなく そう
It’s just, one way or another, right,
気に入らない
I don’t like this
日々縋っていたい
I want to cling to you each and every day
足の下 見下ろしていたい
I want to look down under your feet
0:33
仔猫のように歌う
Just like a kitten, you sing
キミは今日も妖艶に舞う
Today too, you dance so bewitchingly
皆が言う 謳う 曰く
According to everyone’s praises, you’re
「世界で一番綺麗」だってさ
“The most beautiful of them all” they say
仔猫のように歌う
Just like a kitten, you sing
キミは今日も誰かを嗤う
Today too, you sneer at someone
0:50
Sing, Sing, Sing
Prima donna
誰もがキミに夢中
Everybody’s obsessed with you
Sing, Sing, Sing
Prima donna
キミには誰も及ばない
Not a single one can match you
1:07
んなわけないだろ
Of course, that can’t be it
ひとりじゃ何もできない
Nobody can do anything by their own
ガキの使いのがマシ
I'd rather do errands for some brat
キミはほら また誰かを嗤う
Yet again, look, you’re sneering at someone
嗤われてるのはキミのほうかも
Maybe you’re the one that’s being sneered at
1:24
意味なんてない
There’s no meaning to it
ただなんとなく
It’s just, one way or another,
気に入らない
I don’t like this
日々縋っていたい
I want to cling to you each and every day
足の下 見下ろしていたい
I want to look down under your feet
1:36
「愛してないけど愛されたいわ」
“I don’t love you, but I want to be loved”
わかるよわかる キミは本当に
I know it, I know, truthfully you are
しょうもない 品もない
worthless, unrefined
小さなプライドだけ抱えてて
Just someone holding dear to their tiny pride
2:04
Sing, Sing, Sing
Prima donna
誰もがキミに夢中
Everybody’s obsessed with you
Sing, Sing, Sing
Prima donna
キミには誰も及ばない
Not a single one can match you
2:21
んなわけないよな
That can’t be it, right?
妬む心は一人前か いやむしろ
Is this envious heart for a single person? No, if anything…
もうキミひとりでさ 百人力だ
Now you’re all alone, here’s the strength of a hundred people
そろそろ飽きた？ いつまでそこにいる
Are you tired of this now? Till when will you reach that?
2:44
意味なんてない？
There’s no meaning to it?
ただなんとなく気に入らない？
It’s just, one way or another, you don’t like it?
日々ビビってない？
Don’t you feel afraid each and every day?
足の下 見下ろしてさ
Look down what’s under your feet
tHANK YOU!!!❤
Thank you so much!
A thousand thanks ❤️🧡💛
i owe you my life
0:01 冒頭のシーンから進めない。容姿は分からないけど、爪をはらう動作と瞳のインパクトが強い。帽子も羽がついてて関連性を感じるし可愛い。タイトルが出る前の10秒に何があったのか分かるのとても良い。
立ち去ってタイトルが出てくるのもすごい好き。オレンジの瞳が綺麗な音で立ち去るの忘れられない。
ここからが本編、という区切りのように感じた。
Theory time! From what can be understood, Manon, the woman named Prima Donna, is very much related to the red-haired woman from "Femme Fatale", the "Father"'s initial love interest. She very much possibly kills him for revenge, either for the red-haired woman or the Femme Fatale, that is also a sort of "Angel" like her (and could be also related by bond instead of blood). However, Manon's wings are not as large as hers, and are "dirtied" on the ends, showing that her skills are amateur compared to hers, and Manon seems to be more reckless and lets her pride take the best of her, unlike Femme Fatale that seems way colder and patient and better at hiding her true emotions (therefore more convincing and willing to take in acting - she stills tries to seduce the Father even when manacled, while Manon rapidly breaks down when she's caught!)
Amber, the son of Femme Fatale, has his wings stole as a baby, and were indeed rather large for his size! If they were kept on his back, they'd probably grow as large as his mother's by the time he's older, hinting he's as cold and as good in manipulating as her, so much he very easily and successfully seduces Manon - a True Homme Fatale!
Amber, takes his mother's eyes, lashes and personality, but nothing from his father, and because of his hair color, could imply he isn't his real father, but nonetheless, raised him because he was the son of the woman he "loved".
At the end of Femme Fatale, we see she was taken to the very house the "Father" used to share with the red-haired woman and had her wings cutted, and by proxy, her Freedom - as well as her son's. The beggining of FF can be read as an illusion of the Father of creating a perfect family but because of an implied troubled relationship with his lover, is left adrift until meeting the woman of his dreams (the Femme Angel) and begins a very distorted version of family with her as she continued to live with them, but without her wings (1:22).
Father actually "loved" Amber's mother, and maybe dearly held to his dellusion as truth.
However, Amber looks pretty much down on Manon(1:42 and 2:30), and what to seems to put him on edge was the atempt of stealing his and his mother's wings (1:18), prossibly as "trophies" for her own use. By trying to seduce him, and being his Lover, Manon maybe wanted to infiltrate inside the house to "own" it as her own, a part of her revenge plot, and the stealing was the straw that broke the camel's back.
I think he never loved her and actually was pretending to have a dreamy look ( 0:40 )to entrap her - pretending to be manipulated.
Manon kills the 'Father', plays the house as her own, seduces the Son and sleeps with him, which means she pretty much got what she wanted. Revenge fulfilled is time to sneak away but oops! 2:19 Amber won't let her go so easily. She had her revenge, now's his time for his.
In the end Amber continues the cycle and has a child with Manon, a "payment" for having taking his father's life, and is hung as a "trophy" in place of the wings she once so wanted. On the final seconds, he finally looks up to her, "under her feet"
Loved every part of it
tysm ! it really helps !
@Sarsak206Oh thanks! I hadn't notice this part 1:07! It sure give another layer to the story
今思ったけど2:30で赤毛の女の子が泣いてるの、バレたから、酷いことされるから、じゃなくて今まで唯一純粋に羽がなくとも愛しい目で見てくれていた愛していた(寝ていてもキスをしていることから)黒髪くんにあんな目されたから、そんな顔しないでよって意味で泣いたんじゃないかなって思う…好きな人にあんな目で見られたらどんな乙女でも泣きます
わ、かわゆ…一気にこの女の子が可愛く見えてきた
そして、プリマドンナちゃんがこの壁から剥がされる時、天使の形がした日焼け後ができると、、、
考察
前回のファムファタルから今回のプリマドンナの共通事項として、魅力的な女の人の象徴として、天使の羽が生えているのかな？と感じました
前回のファムファタルでは白髪の女性(以下、ファムファタル)が終始羽を生やしてる、プリマドンナではオレンジ髪のツインテールの女性(以下、プリマドンナ)が、ベットシーンの裸の場面で、背中に羽を生やしてるので…
プリマドンナの母は、前回の主人公である男性が、ブローチに仕込んでいたオレンジ髪の女性で、プリマドンナはその女性と前回主人公の子ども
母を捨て、ファムファタルに心を奪われた父(前回主人公)と、そのファムファタルと父の子どもである息子(今回の主人公)が憎くて、復讐の為に父を殺害
そして、その止まらない復讐心から息子も誘惑して、身も心も堕としてから捨てようとしたのでは？
そして、作戦が成功
プリマドンナは復讐が成功したと上機嫌で夜中に逃げ出そうとするけれど、息子は全てを悟っていて、逆に囚われてしまう…という話かな？と考察しました
この説があっているのなら、歌詞にある見下してるような口調である、「嗤う」という言葉は、プリマドンナから復讐相手である息子に向けた、メッセージなのでは？
そして、息子は父を殺したのがプリマドンナだと知っていて、憎くて仕方がないが、それでも愛していて、その結果があの結末なのでは？
その場合、今回の主人公とプリマドンナは異母兄妹となりますが、曲の冒頭で2人とも前回の主人公の葬儀に出ているので、この説も納得できるような気がします
そして、ファムファタルもプリマドンナも歌詞の意味的に、「運命や人を狂わす女」という意味で用いられていそうなので、近親相姦も彼女に狂わされた結果なのかな？と…
と素人目線で考察してみました
何はともあれ、曲はめっちゃ最高です！
すんごい納得した笑
Agree 💯
while I think the half-sibling approach is creative, there's a flaw,, namely stemming from the first scene of femme fatale. In the first scene, the ginger woman (I'll refer to as Ginger) who was in FF MC's locket is present, and is very clearly friendly with the femme fatale child. If "primadonna" was Ginger and MC's child, wouldn't she have been raised in the same house? Although I don't have any other theories, I can only speculate that "Primadonna" is a different relative of the Ginger, still seeking vengeance. Perhaps "Primadonna" thought it was pitiful that Ginger was taking care of another women's child.
Or perhaps, "Primadonna" has no relation to Ginger from Femme Fatale,, and that the ginger hair is meant to contrast the "pure love" of Ginger, with the fact that "Primadonna" is more of a "femme fatale" figure. This comparison reflects in the fact that the femme fatale child, or MC of this video, repeats what his father did: falling for both the same type of woman... ginger and a player.
めっっちゃ良い考察ですね！！少し気になったのですが、ファムファタルの冒頭に映るのはブローチの女性と黒髪の少年(おそらく今作の主人公)なんですかね…？だとしたらブローチの女性にとっては浮気相手の子供に会う、という状況になっちゃいますよね、、ちょっと自分の脳みそじゃ処理追いつかなくて…
あと、オレンジ目の共通点って何でしょうかね！ブローチの女性がオレンジ目なら説明つくのですが、うーん、難しい！
2:52～赤ちゃんで和ませた次の瞬間宙ぶらりんのつま先が見えるの演出最高だな
最後の「見下ろしてさ」で男の視線が赤子を見下ろすの凝ってて好き
曲の中盤で手を引いてもらうまでには羽がなかったのに、1:55ではその後に白い羽根が生えていて、男の子の中で少女の価値が明確に変わって執着したのがわかってしまって感動した。
男の子のまつ毛が前回のファムファタルに関係してるから息子だとして父と同じことを繰り返してる上に、動画の後半で彼女の目がようやく開けられてオレンジ色の瞳が明らかになるの演出として上手すぎる。
パパと同じこと繰り返してんの親子って感じして良き
1:18 羽を大事そうに抱えているの
2:57 見えた瞬間心臓上がった
OH! I didn't see it till you said something ah!
父親のファムファタルも目が開いてなかったから
この子にとってのファムファタルは目が開いてないあの子なんだなぁ
1:07 2:21からの「んなわけないよな」嘲笑う感や絶望感が本当好きたまらない
マノンちゃん(オレンジ髪の娘)に対して僅かにある恋愛感情と憎しみが混ざったアンバー(男)が父親と同じことをやらかすの愛憎劇って感じがして好き
彼らの名前はどこで手に入れたの？
@@OhNo-_- ヤスタツさん(絵師様)がpixivでイラストを描いていてそこで設定とか名前しりました！
ありがとうございます !
白いまつ毛と赤い瞳がしっかり親子……………って思ったら最後ｧ!!!!!!!!
それに加えて、プリマドンナって言葉のスラング的な意味に「気難しい人（自分の思い通りにならないと怒る人･自分が1番じゃないと嫌な人）」ともあって、しかも男性にも使えるらしいのでここにいる女性と男性のどちらにも向けた言葉なんじゃないかな
I like to think that instead of being an angel herself, orange girl is wearing the son's wings like clothing or an accessory. My thought process behind this is mainly because the wings don't fit on her proportionally the same way that femme fatale's did
Make sense
whoaa that's crazy, I thought it was a metaphor that she was only starting her adultery career so they weren't that big but that would make sense why she doesn't have them all the time and why he was collecting the feathers and got depressed
That would be such a cool detail. But i don't really think that's true because if we compare Prima donna's wings to son's wings in the femme fatale mv hers look bigger
ファムファタルもそうだけど、恋をする男の子の顔が終盤で冷酷に見下ろしだす表情の変化好き
最初の殺人現場で、あのオレンジ色の目は怒りなのかなって思ったけど
前作のファムファタルを見て、あの色は畏怖なんだと思い直した
彼も彼女も心の奥底で互いを見下すような舐めくさってるような、そんな本心を隠して付き合ってるように感じた。
天使は基本的に"人"を見下す本質を持ってて、彼もそれを引き継いでしまってるのかなと思うととてもいい。
何気なく曲をランダムで流してた時にファムファタルに出会って、好きになった2週間前に続編のプリマドンナが出ていたのは運命なのかもしれない
最後の壁に飾られている足、切り取ったものを飾っているにしては変な角度かなと思ったんですけど、もし切り取った足だけを飾ってるんじゃなくて女の人のシ体をそのまま飾ってるとしたら、ちょうど背中くらいに大きい方の羽の日焼け跡が来て、シ体の女の人に羽が生えているように見えるかもしれないなと思いました。
前作ファムファタルが大好きだったので続編嬉しいです！
今回も緩急あって翻弄されるような魅力的な曲と、思わず惹きつけられるインパクトある動画で、最後までドキドキしながら楽しませていただきました。
この続編は激胸アツ
最後頭上にギリギリ足先が見えるのゾクッとする
形はどうあれ純真で無垢なイメージだったファムファタルの二人と、悪意や劣等感など負の感情を随所に感じる今回の二人、同じ轍をたどっているように見えて根本的た部分でズレてるかもなんて、思ってみたり
前作も今作も最後に赤ちゃんが出てくるけど誰の子供とか関係なく歴史は繰り返すんやで。。。っていう匂わせならいいな。。。いいな。。。
前作から引き続き、考察要素てんこ盛りの素敵な作品でした。
夢中になって考察していたら恐ろしく長くなってしまった…。
【前作に対する解釈】
・ペンダントにあったオレンジ色の髪の女性：死別した前妻。
・羽を捥がれた白髪の天使のその後：PV冒頭＆ラストから家に連れてきた後は前妻に似せるために髪を染めさせられた？
・黒髪の赤子：髪色的に白髪の天使と別の男の子供？
最初は前妻が生きていてPV冒頭＆ラストの女性は前妻かとも考えましたが、事情を知らない妻のいる家に身元のしれない赤子と天使の羽を持って帰るのはリスキーすぎるので、上記の案を採用。あと、今作の途中で白髪だった頃の天使の写真が堂々と壁に飾られていたのも根拠の１つ。
【今作の考察】
・オレンジの髪の女の子（以下、プリマドンナ）
→髪色的にプリマドンナは『ファムファタル』でペンダントにあった前妻と前作の主人公の男性の子供？
・黒髪の男の子（以下、天使の子）
→髪色的に前作の最後に出ていた幼子と思われる。
プリマドンナと天使の子が家族関係だと思ったのは、お葬式のシーンで喪主に当たる天使の子の隣にプリマドンナがいたから。最初はすでに婚姻関係にある夫婦かと思ったが、2人とも指輪をしていない。あの立ち位置に行くには親類でないとやや不自然なので家族と予想。（ただ血縁関係はなし）
冒頭のシーンで前作の主人公に当たる男性がオレンジの瞳の人物に殺害されたと思しき描写が入る。最初は天使の子かと思ったが、ヒールを履いてあの背の高さは比率的に天使の子にしては小さすぎるので、犯人はプリマドンナと予想。動機としては、２つあると思っていて、１つが見ず知らずの女性を連れてきて亡き母（前妻）に似せるというある意味で侮辱するような行為に対する嫌悪や復讐。
もう１つは『天使の羽を自分自身を飾り立てるショールにするため』だと思う。これは仮定の話を多く含むが、天使の羽に人を魅了するような力があったのではないかと思う。理由としては前作の主人公が天使の羽を捥いでいること。単純に他の男に好かれてほしくないのであれば容姿を傷つけるなり、監禁する方が手っ取り早い。それなのにわざわざ羽を切り取ったのは、天使の羽がファムファタルたる所以だったのではないか。
今作で壁に掛けられた羽がなくなっているが、羽の形に壁が日焼けした跡があることから、それなりの年数の間、羽は壁に掛けられていたと考えられる。途中で数枚の羽を抱いている天使の子が映るが、年齢的にさほど現在の天使の子と変わらないことから羽がなくなったのは最近の事だと思われる。
プリマドンナは元々はそこまで世間に注目される人物ではなかったが、天使の羽を黒に染めた（もしくは加工段階で神聖性を失って変質した？）ショールを身に付けてから世間に称賛されるようになり、今までの反動で自分より下と見做した人間を馬鹿にするようになった。歌詞内に『嗤われてるのは君の方』とあるが、もしかしたら急に注目されるようになった女性に対してありがちな黒い噂（「関係者と寝た」など）があったのかもしれない。
プリマドンナの言葉に『愛してないけど愛されたい』とあるが、実父と義母に構われる天使の子に対する嫉妬から承認欲求を拗らせていた事で飛び出た発言かもしれない。そんな天使の子と情事を持った描写があるのは、両親に愛されていた天使の子から愛されることで両親からの愛を間接的に受けたことにしたかった？
ラストの方で天使の子が『そろそろ飽きた？いつまでそこにいる』と言うが、天使の子からすれば皆に愛される位置（現在、プリマドンナがいる位置）は本来天使の羽を持っていた天使の子の母である白髪の天使がいるべき場所だと思っての発言だと思う。
天使の子とプリマドンナの情事の後と思われるシーンでプリマドンナに羽があるが、あれは羽を纏ったプリマドンナの行動が育ての親に当たる白髪の天使に似ていることを表しているのではないかと思う。また、ところどころで天使の子がプリマドンナを好意的な表情を見せるが、プリマドンナと髪を染められた後の実母を重ねているのではないか。そう考えると天使の子のプリマドンナへの感情はかなり複雑だったと思われる。
最後、プリマドンナは足だけ映るが、構図的には生死はどうあれ磔にされた可能性が高そう。
天使の子は性格や行動が血の繋がらない父親（前作の主人公）に本当によく似ているが、プリマドンナも結果的に血の繋がらない母親と同じような結末を辿ったと考えると運命の皮肉のようなものを感じた。
前作と今作でもそうなんだけど､ちゃんと子供は愛する父親に何故か泣ける。
殺されたのがファムファタルの男の子だとしたら最期まで赤目の人に爪痕残されてるのエグい
倫理観がお父さんもやばかったけど、子どももはるかにやばいのちゃんと親子しててすき
最後女が吊るされてる壁に時間が経ったからか天使の羽の部分だけくっきり残ってるのすごい
0:35～0:50 ピアノ最高，テンポ感すごすぎ、絵コンテもそれを合わせた、全部好き
1:24からが好きすぎる
ファムファタルの方の冒頭で出てきた女の人とロケットペンダントの女の人がオレンジの髪なのよね
冒頭の女の人が赤ちゃんみたいなのといっしょにいたからプリマドンナちゃんはその子なのかな？
とりあえず狂気的な愛は健康にいい😊
血は争えなさすぎて好き
あ…あ…壁に飾ってあった羽の後…一瞬見えるファムファタルの二人…ふぇぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁ(好き)
What's really interesting to me is at 1:36 when Prima is laying on the bed, her orange hair is rendered in greyscale like most everything is, but her pendant retains it's scarlet colour. In this MV, colour seems very important, and though at a glance they look the same, the orange in her hair seems to be functionally different from the orange in her eyes and pendant. Her eyes almost seem to emit their own radiance, and the pendant similarly never has shadow applied to it, but her hair can be away in shade. As opposed to the Femme Fatale, whose only hint of red her her eyes, only seen at the end of the song, Prima is orange from the second we see her. I feel like it's worth considering that the orange we see of her most of the video, though, is an external, almost decorative trait. I think, if you were to think of orange as "selfishness" then it seems like the selfishness she shows most of the time is like a superficial trait, almost harmless in how over it is, which doesn't hold up when awash in her truer colours. She wears brattiness, the primadonna persona, like a mask for her truest self. Underneath it, though, she still has that realer, harsher greed; wanting to be loved but not love in turn, which is why the pendant retains its colour when her hair, her "persona", does not. I think this greed, too, is part of why she stays that last night, and what ultimately dooms her; even if she will leave, even though it's not her truest goal, she desires that love and that intimacy.
Something I've been pondering regarding her design, is that the two times we see her wings, they are tipped with black feathers at the edges, and they are also quite small compared the the Femme Fatale's wings, who was about the same size as her otherwise. This could suggest a variance in size, but I think, actually, that her wings Should be the same size, but that some of her feathers are just missing--or rather, relocated. I don't think its a coincidence that the feathers of her boa are black, as are the tips of her wings, when all the other wings we've seen thus far are white. Wings often symbolize freedom, and I believe that applies here, as well; Femme Fatale's wings are ripped off, stealing her freedom. Prima, however, doesn't even seem to have wings for most of the song. Since the wings are largely symbolic, I think we can interpret her as having "hidden" them for most of the time, without fussing over the logistics of where in reality her wings would have fit if that were the case. Where the Femme Fatale wings, her freedom, were an obvious part of who she was, and arguably part of here beauty, Prima's wings are hidden in all but two scenes. The illusion of being tied down, of a steady relationship. She wears the feather of her own wings as if to show, my feathers have already been plucked, see? I wouldn't go anywhere. Even the symbol of those wings is lost in the night's events, another little way of saying she's setting aside her freedom to stay here. And yet, after their last night together, we see the wings, smaller than they should be, not large enough to fly on, but still there. As she leaves, she picks up her discarded feather boa, her feathers, and drapes them around and behind her like wings. Clipping her wings does not diminish her desire for complete freedom, nor does she intend to let it stop her from achieving it.
The other part of the feather symbolism to consider in her feathered garment is that these feathers are black. The wings, normally symbolizing freedom, in a way reflect qualities of the souls of the women who have them. Black on clothing and accessories is elegant, and perfectly suitable for a funeral; a black soul would be considered a very ominous thing indeed. I think for Prima, black is hatred, or malice; by pulling the feathers in her wings that are white, she can hide this malice belongs to her (because if they're just clothes, they can be dyed). The beginning seems to imply that Prima killed her partner's father, the male lead from Femme Fatale. If considering the concept of Prima having entered her relationship as a way to get close enough to the father to kill him, then the feathers can be interpreted another way: she has sacrificed a portion of her freedom, hidden away her own desire for flight, for the sake of realizing her vendetta. She's plucked her wings in order to make funeral clothes.
Then there is the man, whose eyes are orange but "human", never hidden because they do not seem like a threat. But though the colour, the "selfishness", comes from his mother, the anatomy of the eye is his father's. His perception and understanding shaped by his father, who raised him in a house where his mother's and his own severed wings were pinned up as a display on the wall. Desire is tempered through this frame of reference; to want something is to pin it down such that it cannot ever escape you. I think that's why he does what he does at the end; if clipping her wings will not trap Prima in place, then he will make it so that she cannot move at all. Whether he ever actually loved her, in the end, doesn't matter, because he will make sure he owns her.
天使と人間の子は悪魔と子を成したってこと？種、混ざり愛すぎて最高 あとこんな最高な人外じみた女二人も捕まえる男、行動力ありすぎる。マジでケダルイさんの作る曲が大好きです
これさ、プリちゃんの足を切り落として飾ってたとする(プリちゃんは死んでない、男の子が抱えてる赤子はプリちゃんとの子)とファムファタルの冒頭足を切り落とされてその場から動くことが困難で椅子に座ることしかできないプリちゃんとそれを見守る男の子とその二人の子供に見えてくる！
血は争えない……好き
最後のシーン、実際には赤子がいたけど布の長さと形状と、壁に飾られている足という状況からあの女性が赤子みたいに布で包まれ抱かれてるように見えた
2:32 怖がる表情ママと一緒じゃん、好きです。
親父さんに似て赤毛が好きなのか…
やっぱファム・ファタールの子やもんな、そうやな…そうやな。そうなるよな
KEDARUI WITH ANOTHER MASTERPIECE LET'S GOOO
From what I understand, this is a sequel to Femme Fatale and it takes years after the main events. Our protagonists are the son of the male lead from Femme Fatale and a new angel girl who I'm gonna refer as Prima Donna.
I can't say much since there seems to not be an official translation yet so I'll theorize through the visuals.
FF MC is killed by 'Primadonna' and during the funeral, she assists and meets his son ( I can not tell if she does know or not if he is the son of the FF MC but I'll assume she does due to her approach )
She charms the man and both of them become a 'couple' and both of them sleep together, but due to Primadonna's confidence, she falls into the man's trap who shows to know who she truly is and be it due to revenge or something else, kidnaps her and eventually possibly kills her. ( This due to the fact our new male lead is holding a baby in his arms and behind him, legs are hanging indicating that she may have suffered the same fate as our FF angel. ) And so, the cycle continues.
I'm absolutely obsessed with these characters and their lore, and I hope we get a tl soon so I can properly update this theory!
Good analysis, I would like to know if you know what's he's holding in 1:18, I think it's a pair of wings, the feathers look kind of small to be the wings of the FF from the previous song, so I think it's, in fact, his wings that he's holding. And after seeing PiplupPalace commenting Primadonna's wings at 1:55, I'm sure that he's holding his wings.
Primadonna "betrayed" the FF MC's son, I will elaborate: maybe he did know that she killed his father, but he may loved her sincerely and after his father's death, he was craving for love, so didn't care. But then she wore his wings, his freedom, he realized that was in the palm of her hands... And we know the rest
Yeah, he did know what she really was but the wings are symbolic in this story, so I think it was a big deal. (This is my interpretation)
Great interpretation ! Just wondering, what leads you to conclude that Prima Donna killed the FF MC ?
@@Karmabud-Sirius The main reason as to why I believe it was Primadonna is because at the intro sequence, we are shown the killer in question who has specifically orange eyes and large 'claws' - when we reach near the conclusion of the song, Primadonna is caught by the current MC and we're shown the same eyes and a glimpse of her hands; through most of the song, she seems to have short nails but it seems that angels have retractable nails or at least Primadonna does because her nails seem to be longer at this very moment.
I'm still unsure as to why she would exactly target the FF MC and would attempt to approach his son, be it for revenge or simply opportunity but I hope translations come out soon or maybe even a third part for the series!
@@diachuchu Great observation ! I didn't look closely enough at the victim's silhouette. And because of another comment, I started thinking that this figure with orange eyes might be the son in the future. Since they're not the same, but he does have orange colored eyes from his mother.
Your theory makes a lot of sense ! Such a sad story though
You put it super succinctly! Thank you for making the connections (and Kedarui liked your comment omg??), continuous cycle motifs my beloved.
背景がオレンジのところで本音のような言葉が出てるところはっっ！ってなる...!
男の人の瞳がオレンジ色でプリマドンナのことしか見えてないって感じがして好き
0:14 もうここであのファムファタルの男だってわかって
黒髪の男のバサバサまつ毛が、アンナから受け継いだのが分かる
オレンジ色の女が、ガルシアの子だって前の話を観ていると数秒だけで奥が深いのが伺える
拙い文で考察注意です！
ファムファタルの冒頭の白髪の彼の想い人がそもそもオレンジの髪の今回のヒロインで、白いファムファタル同様に招待を隠して白髪の彼を持て遊んでいた。
○された彼女の羽を黒くして纏っていることから、2人の天使はライバル関係にあった推察するに可能性が高い。
黒髪の父親(白髪)は勝手に手をかけてた自分よりライバルに心を奪われたこと(プリマドンナ、自分が1番じゃないと嫌)、勝手にライバルを○したことを怒った。
（これは「愛してないけど愛されたいわ」、妬む心は1人前か〜いやむしろ百人力だ という歌詞からもヒントを得ました）
納得いかないプリマドンナは腹いせに白髪の天使の羽根黒くして身にまとい、その息子を誑かした。
天使と人間の子で、彼のみが黒髪であることから、かれは悪魔である可能性が高い
彼は父親を○されたこと、形見を利用されたこと、
彼女への愛憎から
そろそろ飽きた？という歌詞が捨てられるくらいなら○すという歪んだ愛なのかな
Oh man this is a continuation of Femme Fatale!! The father's death at the beginning, the result of his son following his footsteps, and the woman he falls in "love" with also being an "angel"... I wonder what the red eyes represent.
I think the first shots of the intro was the mother killing his father and running away (red eyes, followed by the father's funeral scene), then when the son's lover does her performance, he's cradling feathers she shed, cutting back to memories of his and his mother's wings, and of his mother- which begins this whole downward spiral. She then "comforts" him, which leads him to follow the path of his father.
edit: in addition, you can see how the new female protagonist also has "claws" at the end which the mysterious figure at the beginning uses to kill the father.
Femme Fatale was of a young man who tried to prevent his love interest from leaving, cutting her wings, but she kills him and runs away. Their son, seeing this, then has a warped view. When his love interest attempts to slip away, he kills her to prevent any chance of her running away. A cycle of abuse that grows worse... I wonder if the grandchild will do better and break this cycle...?
I think red eyes is similar with wolf in clothing sheep mean those angel look innocent until they reveal their true self
最後男の人に抱えられてるプリマドンナが翼をダランとさせた飛べなくなった鳥みたい
プリマドンナって、独善的で気まぐれな人って意味あるらしいね
Lyrics:
Imi nante nai
Tada nantonaku so
Kiniiranai
Hibi sugatte itai
Ashi no shita mioroshite itai
Koneko no you ni utau
Kimi wa kyou mo youen ni mau
Minna ga iu utau iwaku
"Sekai de ichiban kirei" datte sa
Koneko no you ni utau
Kimi wa kyou mo dareka o warau
Sing,sing,sing
Prima Donna
Dare mo ga kimi ni muchuu
Sing,sing,sing
Prima Donna
Kimi ni wa dare mo oyobanai
Nna wake nai daro
Hitori ja nani mo dekinai
Gaki no tsukai no ga mashi
Kimi wa hora mata dareka o warau
Warawareteru no wa kimi no hou kamo
Imi nante nai
Tada nantonaku
Ki ni iranai
Hibi sugatte itai
Ashi no shita mioroshite itai
"Ashitenai kedo aisaretai wa"
Wakaru yo wakaru kimi wa hontou ni
Shou mo nai hin mo nai
Chiisana puraido dake kakaetete
Sing,sing,sing
Prima Donna
Dare mo ga kimi ni muchuu
Sing,sing,sing
Prima Donna
Kimi ni wa dare mo oyobanai
Nna wake nai yo na
Netamu kokoro wa ichininmae ka iya mushiro
Mou kimi hitori de sa hyakuninriki da
Sorosoro akita? itsumade soko ni iru
Imi nante nai?
Tada nantonaku ki ni iranai?
Hibi bibitte nai?
Ashi no shita mioroshite sa
と、鳥肌ーーーーー⁉️😭😭😭😭😭😭ところどころ前作のファムファタルを感じさせるリフと所々で入ってくる裏メロが逸材👏👏👏👏👏(大拍手)多分前作の二人の間に生まれた子が父と同じような道をたどっているのが😿😿😿😿😿プリマドンナちゃんの全てのビジュがまじで好きすぎるしサムネの2人がダンスを踊っているシーンが美しすぎて😭😭😭😭何となくプリマドンナちゃんの衣装が白鳥の湖のオディールを感じるような気がしなくもない様な気がするんですが考察班の皆さんはいかがお過ごしですか❓❓❓❓❓(錯乱)
異父兄妹or姉弟、でも辿る結末は両親と同じ…ってことかな
冒頭のお父さんを殺した殺人鬼がこのオレンジの髪の子に見えるから、てっきりこの子はファムファタルの天使ちゃんのお友達で、お友達に酷いことしたお父さんを復讐で殺す→ついでにその息子も弄んでやろうとしたら返り討ちにあったって話かと思った（あぶない男を見分けられずちょっかい出して酷い目に合う、ファムファタルと同じ流れ的な……）
ファルファタルみたいに羽を壁に上げるのと同じでプリマドンナは羽が見えないから体そのものを上げる発想好きだし、運ばれてる時に羽のように腕が力が入ってない感じで下がってるのも好き！
今回の主人公はファムファタルの天使の女の人と途中で出てきた黒髪の男との子供だと思うのでハプスブルクってはないと信じたい！
前回に引き続きこの狂気具合が堪りません！ありがとうございます！！！
1:07
好き
二人が踊ってるシーンがほんとにすきでそこずっと再生してる
サビ前の笑い声が二番でハッと息を飲む声になるのめっちゃ良き
あと個人的にBメロが第二のサビって感じがして好き
最後壁に足飾ってあるのがさ、女性が歌詞から読み取るに人を見下して嘲笑うような性格ならそれに対する皮肉も込めてるのかな。それの前にあった男性が女性を冷めたような目で見下ろすカットも相まって「お望み通り見下ろさせてやったぞ満足だろ」って言ってるみたいだと思った
[Plot speculation](by my friend)
1. 0:00-0:08 From the pupil color, it is very likely that the murderer is the heroine.
2. 0:15 From the scar on the mouth, it can be seen that the deceased is the hero of the previous work (Deadly Girl), that is, the father of the hero.
3, 0:26 The hero and heroine met at his father's funeral. 0:41 The heroine has the same hair color as the male protagonist's adoptive mother, and the male protagonist stares at the heroine's hair with an infatuated look. This may be a metaphor, which means that the heroine has some characteristics similar to the male protagonist's adoptive mother, so it deeply attracts the male protagonist (the pupil color of the male protagonist) It is the same color as the mother's hair color, which may imply that the hero has a love affair plot, and the meaning of "the eyes are full of you")
4, 1:08-1:19-1:25
Three key nodes, it is speculated that three things happened.
(Node 1) The heroine sneered: The heroine may have told him the origin of the hero and smashed the happy family that the hero had created in the past (it is speculated that the hero should not have known that he was not raised by his mother at first, so he fell into a collapse after learning the truth)
(Node 2) The hero took off the previous photo frame and wings on the wall: the hero learned the truth, knew his father's betrayal of his adoptive mother, and knew that what his father cherished on the wall was the relics of his father's "white moonlight" (birth mother).
(Node 3) The hero cried and was pulled forward by the heroine: The hero was very sad after learning the truth (at this time, the low brightness in the film represents the hazy state of mind of the hero). At this time, the heroine comforted and accompanied him forward.
5. 1:36 The heroine's hair color disappeared, implying that at this moment, the hero finally no longer regards him as a person similar to his adoptive mother, but looks at the heroine herself. However, it is worth noting that the pupils of the male protagonist are still the same (which may imply that the admiration for the adoptive mother still exists in the bottom of his heart).
6. 1:57-1:58 The heroine showed her wings after the hero fell asleep (the wings are closely related to the biological mother, and it can be speculated that the heroine showed "evil" or "traits" similar to the biological mother. From the above clip, it can be known that the existence of the male protagonist's biological mother is a big shadow on the male protagonist), but I didn't expect that the hero actually pretended to sleep 2: 04
(According to the rationality of the plot here, I speculate that the "evil" shown by the heroine is as "playing with people's hearts" as her biological mother - the biological mother is messing everywhere; the heroine is deliberately murdering the hero's father but deliberately approaching the male protagonist who does not know the truth, falling in love with the male protagonist and playing with his feelings.)
7, 2:22 The heroine played, and the hero learned the truth and avenged his father.
8, 2:58 The heroine was hung in the place where she used to hang her biological mother's wings, which is a metaphor for the two women to a similar ending.
LOVING THE SONG AND THE THEORIES STORY CONTINUATION FROM FEMME FATALE AAAA!! The black haired MC is the result of the femme fatale angel girl with the black haired dude at the bar meanwhile the primadonna girl is the result of femme fatale mc and orange woman at the beginning making this a complete mix of revenge plan. I like to think that she went there and wanted to take revenge on him by taking everything from primadonna mc starting with his family and ending with his love but she was caught mid act by the mc because he's always been catious, but it didnt matter to him. He had a child with her because he learnt from his dad that this is how to love when the woman is not submitting to you and she probably ended her life after giving birth, the reason why black haired mc is holding baby under her body is maybe because the baby hadnt seen the mothers face and he thinks itd be better to let the baby have a last look. Or it could be because of his own personal sadism. Or... the reason he had a kid with her is because he realised hes not related to his dad but she is so he wanted to keep his dads bloodline going.... that would be kinda fucked up though. I just know that the generational trauma is gonna continue with the new baby 🥲
嗚呼好きだなあ
ボカロが歌うボカロが好きじゃなかった頃、ケダルイさんの曲には一発で惹かれて、その時の感情思い出した。
人間じゃ出せない無機質ででも魅了する音とこの先危険を含有するようなドキドキする曲調が好きだ。
2番で速くなったテンポがラストに入る時に1番のテンポに戻って行くところで「物語が終盤に向かって行くぞ」というか、「そろそろフィナーレだ」という感じがしてとても…良い…
1つの劇を見てるようだし前作と合わせて見るとさらに深みを感じる…
もっと上手く言語化したい…！要するに素敵ということです。素晴らしい…！
1:27 ここの「あ、こうするんだった」感が好き
翼を飾ってあった部屋にその痕跡（日焼けあと？）があってｱｱｱｱ‼︎ってなった、、。
真っ黒のショールとドレスに女の子の明るいオレンジの髪が更に際立って綺麗だなぁって見惚れてたけど2:39のシーンで前作の子の羽を盗んで染めてまとっていたのかと思うとゾッとした
0:08のﾌﾟﾙﾙﾙﾙﾛｫﾝめちゃくちゃいい音
親も親なら子も子って感じですごい性癖どストライクです……🫶ファムファタル流した後にプリマドンナ流すと感激でしかない😭
サビ前で高笑いする声だったり、ラストのサビで息を呑む呼吸音が入っていて凝ってるな……
ファムファタルで登場した男とオレンジ髪の女性は結婚していたけど子供はできない体質で、天使との間に生まれた子を「養子」として迎えたと仮定して……成長した男の子（プリマドンナの男の子）が、また天使と巡り会う。
天使がオレンジ髪なのは、ファムファタルのオレンジ髪の女性と関係はない。ただオレンジ髪の女に関わりが多いだけ？みたいな。と、考えてようやっと納得してる。今回は考察難しくて楽しい！
1曲の中だけで曲の展開がめちゃくちゃ変わるのが好きだ〜〜〜‼️‼️‼️😭😭😭
他の方の考察をお借りすると前作のファムファタル主人公のロケットの女性がプリマドンナちゃんの母親で、母を裏切って浮気したファムファタル主人公を殺害▶︎異母兄弟の今作主人公も復讐のため手篭めにしようとするって考察が好きです
ケダルイさん大好きです
いつも素晴らしい曲をありがとうございます
ファムファタルが1番好きな曲なのでその続編のプリマドンナが出てとても嬉しかったです！
お身体に気を付けてこれからも頑張ってください
ボカコレでケダルイさんの作品の良さがもっと多くの人に知られますように、応援してます
マドンナちゃんの羽ってファムファタルの白髪の子の羽より結構小さいんだな・・・
天使の羽＝人間を魅了する力だとすると、マドンナちゃんはファムファタルの子より人を自分に夢中にさせる力が弱いってことになるんかな。
で、人一倍、嫉妬深くて承認欲求も強いマドンナちゃんは世間の注目を集めるため、何としてでも白髪の子の羽を手に入れたくて
黒髪の子の父親を殺してそれを奪った・・・とか？
プリマ・ドンナ（伊：Prima donna）
オペラの主役となる女性歌手。直訳すれば「第一の女性」という意味。（wikiより）
（考察注意）
女性は男性の父親を殺し、傷心の男性に近づいた。
それが「気に入らない」だけなのか、男性の一番になりたかった気持ちがあったのかはわからない。
しかし何れにせよ彼女の所業は男性に見透かされてしまった。
そして最後、髪の色が同じ赤子を抱える男性や壁に飾られた足を見るに、女性は男性の赤子を出産させられ、更にはかつての男性の母親のように足を切り取られ飾られてしまっている。
「足の下 見下ろしていたい」と言っていた彼女が迎える末路としては皮肉としか言いようがない。
足を切り落とす発想がなかった！マジですごい、男性がプリちゃんを運ぶ時ちょうど足が見えてないのも…………わざわざ抱えて運んであげてるのも…………
ファム・ファタールの方を見ると天使から生まれた子は黒髪の子で、赤毛の女性は許嫁(正妻)。プリマドンナの女性が赤毛の女から生まれたのなら髪が似るのは当然だけど目の色が天使の方と似ている。
もしかしたらあの羽に魅了されて取り憑かれているのかもしれないと思った。
羽自体に誘惑とか罪とか何かを誘発させていて人間には抗えないかもしれないけど天使の血が流れていれば元は自分たちに会ったものだし特に害にもならない。
だから黒髪の人は他の人達みたいに彼女に強く惚れ込むことは無いが取り返す機会を伺ってそばに居たり、最後のシーンでその羽は人間の彼女には分不相応だと見下しているよう見えるなぁって…。
天使って穢れることをとても嫌うし、寝ている時にキスをされたことで内心ブチ切れで実行に移したとかだとゾッとする。
本当に本当に本当に続きが見られて嬉しいです…ありがとうございました…魂に沁み渡る良い曲……そしてヤスタツさんの狂った男女の画風と曲がこの上なくマッチしてて…ありがとうございます…寿命伸びました…
この人達の家系図が…欲しい…
ファムファタルに次作があるだけで嬉しいのに曲もストーリーも良すぎる
歌詞とか内容が若干しか理解出来ていないのですが..大好きです。投稿されたその日に聞いたんですけど、なかなかピンと来なくて...。でもまたふと聞きに来て、ピンと来なくて、そんな感じの繰り返しで今に至ってます。じわじわと好きになってきて、狂ってしまいました。特に「んなわけないよな」のところ、舐め回したいくらい愛してます。ファムファタルの続編ってだけで震え上がります、ありがとうございます
久しぶりにおすすめにファムファタルきて聴いてたらいつの間にか神曲増えてた
伏線がありすぎてどのキャラが天使の血でラストも実の子供なのかどうかわかんねえなもうこれ(褒め言葉)
女の子がつけてる黒い羽でできた服(？)ってもしかして女の子自身の羽をもいで作ったのかな。だから女の子に生えてる羽の先が黒い。
前作もそうなんだけど息を呑む音が凄く好き
黒髪白睫毛はもっと流行っていい
何か最後の男が女性をお姫様抱っこ？
してるシーン何か女性の手が
前の作品ファムファタルの女性の羽みたいで綺麗だった。
ファムファタルとの深い繋がりを感じる描写がたくさんあって好き...
好きすぎてファムファタル→プリマドンナのループから抜け出せない助けて
flowerが歌うことによってこの雰囲気が創られて、しかも中性的な声だからどっちの声ともとれる...素晴らしい
目ずっと閉じてるのに違和感ないのすごいなあ