Damn Gigabyte, asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy. I believe when the Z690 Tachyon launched it was 400 and some change. Hard pass for me at that price point.
Given Gigabyte's snake-oil on their other "X" boards (crap QVLs and such) , I'm happy to say that Ive had a profoundly different experience where the "Z790 Tachyon X vs the Z790 non-X Tachyon" is concerned (As I have owned both). The "X" has been my daily driver -10 hours a day for just over a couple of weeks now. G.Skill's 2x16 8000 kit was XMP "Karhu stable" right out of the box with no tweaks what so ever (tested with 15 tabs up and multiple programs running) and now at 8200, its still rock solid in identical environments (as my "non X z790 Tachyon, and I mean identical Same CPU-Loop-PSU-Case...etc...etc.) The X is slightly more premium... PCIE reinforcements on the back of the board (x16/5.0 slot) as where the last gen did not. They must have gotten something right because my last "non X" Tachyon's XMPs were wonky as hell. In short, I have found significant bandwidth increases with the "X" pound for pound (vs the non X/first Gen z790 Tachyon) running identical CPUs and Identical sticks. Per your statement "asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy"... I agree, but it was worth every penny in my case. ...And spoken kindly, I'm not selling anything, nor is this an attempted slap at Jufes (I'm sure hes forgotten more than I will ever know in this arena) .... I'm just very passionate about the things I throw myself into. I as a day trader and a gamer, I spend a LOT of time on my rig and it has to be Top-Notch (my sh*ts pretty nice). ...Just sharing my personal experience regarding the topic at hand.
@@petefckingnegwaski1060 as someone who has a z790 Master which turned into the X variant because I was still in return to Amazon timeframe and they dropped X down to withint $15 of the non-X, the Master X is also better and more... refined? than the non-x Master. Most of their non-X z790 lineup feels somewhat beta or at least release candidate vs the X versions.
That said, the power delivered on their Pro X's is a crime (z690 Pro/Ultra were much better, maybe too much vs z690 Master). But i mean, the Pro's now ahve 8x8? I guess they wanted to sell more Masters this gen! kek
i disagree the tachyon isn't as cheap as it was for z690 and also went on sale frequently true but 4 dimm motherboards shouldn't be the standard anymore. when it comes to overclocking especially ram and just hitting 8000+ given your 13/14th gen CPUs memory controller can do it the nova isn't even in the same category as the tachyon
I cannot trust Gigabyte anymore, their cracking GPUs blaming customers, their exploding PSU, their crappy monitors, they are THE customer support IN MY opinion is also bad from past experience .... I would never buy their motherboard. Rather save up more for a quality Asus, EVGA board
Do you even get any noticeable gains on a 600$ board over a 250$ one. Like how much difference are you gaining at 8000mt vs 6400mt running the same cas?
If you overclock, the higher end boards give you a better overclock for a few hundred mhz, it just depends on your memory controller in your CPU and how good of a lotto you hit with your ram chip quality wise
Your motherboard reviews are essential! If you say it’s good then I consider it or buy it. Nobody tests the motherboards like you do. If you do normal people boards you’ll have em sell out lol keep it up! Waiting on that gigabyte aorus elite z790 x WiFi7 refresh
@@FrameChasers I was thinking since the Apex encore doesn’t have an integrated GPU can you get an A380 and combine it with a 4090 for the benefit of quick sync in gaming? I was thinking about getting the tachyon. But now may get the apex. If I can add quick sync. How would you set that up?
Does ANYONE KNOW IF 14900KS WILL BE "ALL CORE" 6GHZ? 6.2GHZ is gravy. I've been enjoying my 9900KS 5GHZ "ALL CORE" rock solid grandma proof out of the box for years now, looking to upgrade to the same. I use arctic freezer 420 AIO cooler and NEVER going back to 360 ever for life!
the Apex. period. I'd argue it just is the best board for overclocking has been most generations at number 1 and if in not mistaken more oc world records on that board than any of the others (that said the MSI unfy x and tachyon are still excellent oc board the evga dark kingpin as well but evga is done making motherboards) for CPU and ram records which it holds both rn and its cheaper the PCB is better like no other z790 boards should exist. also and idk why but MSI hasn't released a unify x since 12th gen so unless you bought a dark when they were in stock the apex and tachyon are the only option's for 2 dimm enthusiast ocing dedicated boards.
I attempted to subscribe to get Discord access this morning and was prompted with an uncooperative "PayPal is being a dick" message. Are subs still possible via your website?
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@@devent5181 not firing shots at all. Just saying this guy only does top tier products. $300 boards can be reviewed on other mainstream channels. 🤷🏻♂️
Hi. I love your complaining about companies and ddr5. I have already processed 7 pieces of 14900K + Apex Encore, Dark Hero and 2 pieces of Aorus Master X. What irritates me is that you don't show the voltages for 7800 and 8000 when it's already working stably. Could you add the voltages from this Gigabyte to all under 7800 or 8000?
surprise surprise, another motherboard most people won’t even dream of spending the money on garnering exactly zero benefits over much cheaper options…
$700 for a MB without a built-in IO shield is a travesty.
Gigashite
Right...... Jesus.....
Damn Gigabyte, asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy. I believe when the Z690 Tachyon launched it was 400 and some change. Hard pass for me at that price point.
yeah z690 tachyon was much cheaper and went on sale all the time, same for the MSI unify x.
Given Gigabyte's snake-oil on their other "X" boards (crap QVLs and such) , I'm happy to say that Ive had a profoundly different experience where the "Z790 Tachyon X vs the Z790 non-X Tachyon" is concerned (As I have owned both). The "X" has been my daily driver -10 hours a day for just over a couple of weeks now. G.Skill's 2x16 8000 kit was XMP "Karhu stable" right out of the box with no tweaks what so ever (tested with 15 tabs up and multiple programs running) and now at 8200, its still rock solid in identical environments (as my "non X z790 Tachyon, and I mean identical Same CPU-Loop-PSU-Case...etc...etc.) The X is slightly more premium... PCIE reinforcements on the back of the board (x16/5.0 slot) as where the last gen did not. They must have gotten something right because my last "non X" Tachyon's XMPs were wonky as hell. In short, I have found significant bandwidth increases with the "X" pound for pound (vs the non X/first Gen z790 Tachyon) running identical CPUs and Identical sticks.
Per your statement "asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy"... I agree, but it was worth every penny in my case.
...And spoken kindly, I'm not selling anything, nor is this an attempted slap at Jufes (I'm sure hes forgotten more than I will ever know in this arena) .... I'm just very passionate about the things I throw myself into. I as a day trader and a gamer, I spend a LOT of time on my rig and it has to be Top-Notch (my sh*ts pretty nice).
...Just sharing my personal experience regarding the topic at hand.
@@petefckingnegwaski1060 as someone who has a z790 Master which turned into the X variant because I was still in return to Amazon timeframe and they dropped X down to withint $15 of the non-X, the Master X is also better and more... refined? than the non-x Master.
Most of their non-X z790 lineup feels somewhat beta or at least release candidate vs the X versions.
That said, the power delivered on their Pro X's is a crime (z690 Pro/Ultra were much better, maybe too much vs z690 Master). But i mean, the Pro's now ahve 8x8? I guess they wanted to sell more Masters this gen! kek
Haha, whenever you drop a video, I instantly stop whatever I am doing and watch!
Yeah, me too.
This board makes the asrock nova look even better!
i disagree the tachyon isn't as cheap as it was for z690 and also went on sale frequently true but 4 dimm motherboards shouldn't be the standard anymore. when it comes to overclocking especially ram and just hitting 8000+ given your 13/14th gen CPUs memory controller can do it the nova isn't even in the same category as the tachyon
I cannot trust Gigabyte anymore, their cracking GPUs blaming customers, their exploding PSU, their crappy monitors, they are THE customer support IN MY opinion is also bad from past experience .... I would never buy their motherboard. Rather save up more for a quality Asus, EVGA board
Asus has building their stuff increasingly sketchy too
@@natalie2070they are better now. Just a few screw ups before
Trust me you don’t wanna go ASUS I’ve had nothing but lies and lies
Great review. I watch these to see but am still on Z690s updated BIOS in case I upgrade them at some point.
Do you even get any noticeable gains on a 600$ board over a 250$ one. Like how much difference are you gaining at 8000mt vs 6400mt running the same cas?
12-20fps increase in 1% lows I assume for more memory intensive workloads that aren’t just gaming it’s much more noticeable
If you overclock, the higher end boards give you a better overclock for a few hundred mhz, it just depends on your memory controller in your CPU and how good of a lotto you hit with your ram chip quality wise
3:16 “and it looks like ass” got me 😏😅😂🤣😅😂🤣!
any links to Karhu memory test download? tia
Your motherboard reviews are essential! If you say it’s good then I consider it or buy it. Nobody tests the motherboards like you do. If you do normal people boards you’ll have em sell out lol keep it up! Waiting on that gigabyte aorus elite z790 x WiFi7 refresh
Looking forward to the absolute DESTRUCTION of anti consumer content coming this year to the fc channel. Rain down that fire Jufes!!
What are the benefits of cooler pch temperatures? Can we change whatever thermal pads or paste it has on the mb's?
Great video to start the new year let's gooooo!
You never mentioned, does it have the latest bios?
Yep
@@FrameChasers I was thinking since the Apex encore doesn’t have an integrated GPU can you get an A380 and combine it with a 4090 for the benefit of quick sync in gaming?
I was thinking about getting the tachyon.
But now may get the apex. If I can add quick sync.
How would you set that up?
Does the AV1 on the Encore make it better for single PC streaming?
My favorite tech channel. No BS only truth.
Does ANYONE KNOW IF 14900KS WILL BE "ALL CORE" 6GHZ? 6.2GHZ is gravy.
I've been enjoying my 9900KS 5GHZ "ALL CORE" rock solid grandma proof out of the box for years now, looking to upgrade to the same.
I use arctic freezer 420 AIO cooler and NEVER going back to 360 ever for life!
It’s not coming imo, 14900K silicon is already maxed out
ya but WILL IT BLEND?
Tier from 1 month not working website
It's too expensive. Looking forward to the review of the Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX.
Thanks to the supporters and most importantly Jufes for the incredible content.
Thank you for what you do......keep up the good work!
Yea that intel arc showdown would be gold
Acpi error. Devcon acpi pci hid usb uefi
Yep i couldnt beleive the PCH temp on my gigabyte also. My z790 hero was hitting 72c.
Been out of the scene for a while. What are the best 2 dimm/atx boards available right now?
the Apex. period. I'd argue it just is the best board for overclocking has been most generations at number 1 and if in not mistaken more oc world records on that board than any of the others (that said the MSI unfy x and tachyon are still excellent oc board the evga dark kingpin as well but evga is done making motherboards) for CPU and ram records which it holds both rn and its cheaper the PCB is better like no other z790 boards should exist. also and idk why but MSI hasn't released a unify x since 12th gen so unless you bought a dark when they were in stock the apex and tachyon are the only option's for 2 dimm enthusiast ocing dedicated boards.
gigabyte the old 4060 ti?
would you please straighten the cat picture? It drives me crazy
Not kidding about the PCH temp my gaming rig is in a server chassis with delta fans and my PCH temp isn't as good as that
Thank you as always Jufes.
I would love to see the a380 used like that.
13th and 14th gen use the same voltages :)
Nice studio. Ggs
Can we get a Jufes bloopers reel one day 😂
Adding an ARC GPU alongside a 4090 is not going to give you what the iGPU will give. Remember the PCIE lanes are limited.
new year new pc buildin croc's?
why would anyone want 8000xmp cl38 ?
What's a disquord, I don't have 12thgen + to test but on 11th, gear 1 is better for GAMING for Gamers, can you try maybe
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I attempted to subscribe to get Discord access this morning and was prompted with an uncooperative "PayPal is being a dick" message. Are subs still possible via your website?
What was the actual PayPal message? haha
@@FrameChasers "Things don't appear to be working at the moment. Please try again later."
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Interesting which option did you try to sub? Il check to see if it’s broken, thanks for the help
@@FrameChasers tried tier 2 monthly. I'll try again when I wake up tonight. Thanks for the replies.
Your right it’s broken for me too, I will regenerate the button when I get back to my hotel room, thanks man
Aorus is like Apple. Here's the same product, but its named a bigger number.
I hope these videos perform okay, cmon people 💪😘
Tachyon X already has X7o bios.
One day I'll compete. Until then my 13900k MSI z690-a pro with ddr4-4000 will have to do.
You should review the Asrock Livemixer z790
I’m good
If this $700 motherboard cant compete, you think this guys gonna review one thats $300?
@@MadMexism trying to fire shots when you dont have common sense. if a 300 board can do it why spend 700.... wow your so smart
@@devent5181 not firing shots at all. Just saying this guy only does top tier products. $300 boards can be reviewed on other mainstream channels. 🤷🏻♂️
i like how u talk its like u took to much preworkout or sm
the only NA channel I trust about hardware
just clicked this one exited to watch hopefully ill know if it can compete or not. we shall see
FrameChasers can *compete* !
Thanks for doing this. I almost bought this today
And to think I was holding out for this board... MFs. Thanks as always Jufes
I've got the apex encore. im sure if you run 2 graphics cards, they go to 8x from 16
The 4x slot
@FrameChasers oh I thought you said the bottom slot no problem thanks
You rocking it, you killing it, you owning, you pwning it, you are great.
Damn, that's a massive letdown. Was hyped for this board. Now I'd give it a hard pass
Hi. I love your complaining about companies and ddr5. I have already processed 7 pieces of 14900K + Apex Encore, Dark Hero and 2 pieces of Aorus Master X. What irritates me is that you don't show the voltages for 7800 and 8000 when it's already working stably. Could you add the voltages from this Gigabyte to all under 7800 or 8000?
Not a fan of Gigabyte at all. One of their PSU’s blew on me and just last week one of their 4090’s went bad. I’m done with them.
SEO as an ex JarJar
lets' go
surprise surprise, another motherboard most people won’t even dream of spending the money on garnering exactly zero benefits over much cheaper options…
❤
How to they go from a nice Master board to this ugly thing smh.
"Happy new year boys".. So you don't expect grown people would watch your channel?
gigabyte always screws me with memory
Gigabyte is ass
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