Missed The Boat.. Z790 Tachyon X 😱

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  • @MadClowdz
    @MadClowdz 5 місяців тому +50

    $700 for a MB without a built-in IO shield is a travesty.

  • @abelgutierrez3603
    @abelgutierrez3603 5 місяців тому +17

    Damn Gigabyte, asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy. I believe when the Z690 Tachyon launched it was 400 and some change. Hard pass for me at that price point.

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture 5 місяців тому +1

      yeah z690 tachyon was much cheaper and went on sale all the time, same for the MSI unify x.

    • @petefckingnegwaski1060
      @petefckingnegwaski1060 5 місяців тому +2

      Given Gigabyte's snake-oil on their other "X" boards (crap QVLs and such) , I'm happy to say that Ive had a profoundly different experience where the "Z790 Tachyon X vs the Z790 non-X Tachyon" is concerned (As I have owned both). The "X" has been my daily driver -10 hours a day for just over a couple of weeks now. G.Skill's 2x16 8000 kit was XMP "Karhu stable" right out of the box with no tweaks what so ever (tested with 15 tabs up and multiple programs running) and now at 8200, its still rock solid in identical environments (as my "non X z790 Tachyon, and I mean identical Same CPU-Loop-PSU-Case...etc...etc.) The X is slightly more premium... PCIE reinforcements on the back of the board (x16/5.0 slot) as where the last gen did not. They must have gotten something right because my last "non X" Tachyon's XMPs were wonky as hell. In short, I have found significant bandwidth increases with the "X" pound for pound (vs the non X/first Gen z790 Tachyon) running identical CPUs and Identical sticks.
      Per your statement "asking 699 for the Tachyon X is ballsy"... I agree, but it was worth every penny in my case.
      ...And spoken kindly, I'm not selling anything, nor is this an attempted slap at Jufes (I'm sure hes forgotten more than I will ever know in this arena) .... I'm just very passionate about the things I throw myself into. I as a day trader and a gamer, I spend a LOT of time on my rig and it has to be Top-Notch (my sh*ts pretty nice).
      ...Just sharing my personal experience regarding the topic at hand.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 4 місяці тому +1

      @@petefckingnegwaski1060 as someone who has a z790 Master which turned into the X variant because I was still in return to Amazon timeframe and they dropped X down to withint $15 of the non-X, the Master X is also better and more... refined? than the non-x Master.
      Most of their non-X z790 lineup feels somewhat beta or at least release candidate vs the X versions.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 4 місяці тому

      That said, the power delivered on their Pro X's is a crime (z690 Pro/Ultra were much better, maybe too much vs z690 Master). But i mean, the Pro's now ahve 8x8? I guess they wanted to sell more Masters this gen! kek

  • @riosecco4142
    @riosecco4142 5 місяців тому +14

    Haha, whenever you drop a video, I instantly stop whatever I am doing and watch!

  • @J_Leish
    @J_Leish 5 місяців тому +6

    This board makes the asrock nova look even better!

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture 5 місяців тому

      i disagree the tachyon isn't as cheap as it was for z690 and also went on sale frequently true but 4 dimm motherboards shouldn't be the standard anymore. when it comes to overclocking especially ram and just hitting 8000+ given your 13/14th gen CPUs memory controller can do it the nova isn't even in the same category as the tachyon

  • @thaNZdon
    @thaNZdon 5 місяців тому +8

    Looking forward to the absolute DESTRUCTION of anti consumer content coming this year to the fc channel. Rain down that fire Jufes!!

  • @toonnut1
    @toonnut1 5 місяців тому +2

    Great video to start the new year let's gooooo!

  • @gamester0123
    @gamester0123 5 місяців тому +7

    Your motherboard reviews are essential! If you say it’s good then I consider it or buy it. Nobody tests the motherboards like you do. If you do normal people boards you’ll have em sell out lol keep it up! Waiting on that gigabyte aorus elite z790 x WiFi7 refresh

  • @themachine4008
    @themachine4008 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for what you do......keep up the good work!

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 5 місяців тому

    Great review. I watch these to see but am still on Z690s updated BIOS in case I upgrade them at some point.

  • @Multimeter1
    @Multimeter1 5 місяців тому +7

    I cannot trust Gigabyte anymore, their cracking GPUs blaming customers, their exploding PSU, their crappy monitors, they are THE customer support IN MY opinion is also bad from past experience .... I would never buy their motherboard. Rather save up more for a quality Asus, EVGA board

    • @natalie2070
      @natalie2070 5 місяців тому

      Asus has building their stuff increasingly sketchy too

    • @Multimeter1
      @Multimeter1 5 місяців тому

      @@natalie2070they are better now. Just a few screw ups before

    • @keepitsexy
      @keepitsexy 5 місяців тому

      Trust me you don’t wanna go ASUS I’ve had nothing but lies and lies

  • @crregazzamerone
    @crregazzamerone 5 місяців тому

    Thank you as always Jufes.

  • @weroliera
    @weroliera 5 місяців тому

    Nice studio. Ggs

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 5 місяців тому +1

    3:16 “and it looks like ass” got me 😏😅😂🤣😅😂🤣!

  • @itraumatik6550
    @itraumatik6550 5 місяців тому

    Yep i couldnt beleive the PCH temp on my gigabyte also. My z790 hero was hitting 72c.

  • @runebdrim6733
    @runebdrim6733 5 місяців тому

    What are the benefits of cooler pch temperatures? Can we change whatever thermal pads or paste it has on the mb's?

  • @EzBreezy750
    @EzBreezy750 5 місяців тому

    Can we get a Jufes bloopers reel one day 😂

  • @BankboyFilthy
    @BankboyFilthy 5 місяців тому +1

    Yea that intel arc showdown would be gold

  • @3889011
    @3889011 5 місяців тому +5

    My favorite tech channel. No BS only truth.

  • @christopherherbert8062
    @christopherherbert8062 5 місяців тому

    Does the AV1 on the Encore make it better for single PC streaming?

  • @johnnyevolution3829
    @johnnyevolution3829 5 місяців тому +1

    It's too expensive. Looking forward to the review of the Z790 AORUS ELITE X AX.

  • @abzaman77
    @abzaman77 5 місяців тому +1

    any links to Karhu memory test download? tia

  • @maag78
    @maag78 5 місяців тому

    I would love to see the a380 used like that.

  • @koford
    @koford 5 місяців тому

    good review

  • @mitsuhh
    @mitsuhh 5 місяців тому

    Will you be getting any of the Nvidia 40 supers?

  • @JXDNL050
    @JXDNL050 5 місяців тому

    just clicked this one exited to watch hopefully ill know if it can compete or not. we shall see

  • @broncobully9755
    @broncobully9755 5 місяців тому +3

    Do you even get any noticeable gains on a 600$ board over a 250$ one. Like how much difference are you gaining at 8000mt vs 6400mt running the same cas?

    • @Thirdeyestrappd
      @Thirdeyestrappd 5 місяців тому

      12-20fps increase in 1% lows I assume for more memory intensive workloads that aren’t just gaming it’s much more noticeable

    • @Multimeter1
      @Multimeter1 5 місяців тому

      If you overclock, the higher end boards give you a better overclock for a few hundred mhz, it just depends on your memory controller in your CPU and how good of a lotto you hit with your ram chip quality wise

    • @killerrf
      @killerrf 5 місяців тому

      6400 well tuned primary/secondary/tertiary timings will be faster then 8000 basic xmp settings. Plus you can run that speed easy on z790 4 dimm boards.

  • @stefanhodgden
    @stefanhodgden 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for doing this. I almost bought this today

  • @_kardus
    @_kardus 5 місяців тому

    Been out of the scene for a while. What are the best 2 dimm/atx boards available right now?

    • @iDeparture
      @iDeparture 5 місяців тому +1

      the Apex. period. I'd argue it just is the best board for overclocking has been most generations at number 1 and if in not mistaken more oc world records on that board than any of the others (that said the MSI unfy x and tachyon are still excellent oc board the evga dark kingpin as well but evga is done making motherboards) for CPU and ram records which it holds both rn and its cheaper the PCB is better like no other z790 boards should exist. also and idk why but MSI hasn't released a unify x since 12th gen so unless you bought a dark when they were in stock the apex and tachyon are the only option's for 2 dimm enthusiast ocing dedicated boards.

  • @xdi1733
    @xdi1733 5 місяців тому +3

    I have two Aorus Master Z790 boards and I love them. Very full featured and awesome looking boards.

  • @SKHYJINX
    @SKHYJINX 5 місяців тому

    I hope these videos perform okay, cmon people 💪😘

  • @laz7354
    @laz7354 5 місяців тому

    FrameChasers can *compete* !

  • @ericvalentine1497
    @ericvalentine1497 5 місяців тому

    Good Vid.

  • @onslaugh7pc
    @onslaugh7pc 5 місяців тому

    Not kidding about the PCH temp my gaming rig is in a server chassis with delta fans and my PCH temp isn't as good as that

  • @itnews1202
    @itnews1202 5 місяців тому

    Tier from 1 month not working website

  • @SundayFoggyNotions
    @SundayFoggyNotions 5 місяців тому +1

    Does ANYONE KNOW IF 14900KS WILL BE "ALL CORE" 6GHZ? 6.2GHZ is gravy.
    I've been enjoying my 9900KS 5GHZ "ALL CORE" rock solid grandma proof out of the box for years now, looking to upgrade to the same.
    I use arctic freezer 420 AIO cooler and NEVER going back to 360 ever for life!

    • @ethanbettineschi5670
      @ethanbettineschi5670 5 місяців тому

      It’s not coming imo, 14900K silicon is already maxed out

  • @theodanielwollff
    @theodanielwollff 5 місяців тому

    13th and 14th gen use the same voltages :)

  • @ConteXCrown
    @ConteXCrown 5 місяців тому

    i like how u talk its like u took to much preworkout or sm

  • @okerac8344
    @okerac8344 5 місяців тому +1

    You never mentioned, does it have the latest bios?

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  5 місяців тому +1

      Yep

    • @okerac8344
      @okerac8344 5 місяців тому +2

      @@FrameChasers I was thinking since the Apex encore doesn’t have an integrated GPU can you get an A380 and combine it with a 4090 for the benefit of quick sync in gaming?
      I was thinking about getting the tachyon.
      But now may get the apex. If I can add quick sync.
      How would you set that up?

  • @FireTwo
    @FireTwo 5 місяців тому

    new year new pc buildin croc's?

  • @zerzes
    @zerzes 5 місяців тому +1

    Aorus is like Apple. Here's the same product, but its named a bigger number.

  • @terminator9099
    @terminator9099 5 місяців тому

    the only NA channel I trust about hardware

  • @subgx0079
    @subgx0079 5 місяців тому

    Tachyon X already has X7o bios.

  • @6r3ys0n
    @6r3ys0n 5 місяців тому

    And to think I was holding out for this board... MFs. Thanks as always Jufes

  • @jagenaudas8605
    @jagenaudas8605 5 місяців тому +1

    would you please straighten the cat picture? It drives me crazy

  • @brandonprenger8186
    @brandonprenger8186 5 місяців тому

    One day I'll compete. Until then my 13900k MSI z690-a pro with ddr4-4000 will have to do.

  • @boestube5805
    @boestube5805 5 місяців тому

    7200 is the latest parts list.
    Previous parts list said 7800 not 8000. My mistake. l'll delete previous comment. But 7800 is still a nightmare on a z790i. Maybes you should have said on your website a consult will be necessary to get it to run stable lol.

  • @BaBaNaNaBa
    @BaBaNaNaBa 5 місяців тому

    gigabyte the old 4060 ti?

  • @AlexandruCaragea-gf1kz
    @AlexandruCaragea-gf1kz 5 місяців тому

    Acpi error. Devcon acpi pci hid usb uefi

  • @hamslice839
    @hamslice839 5 місяців тому +8

    Thanks to the supporters and most importantly Jufes for the incredible content.

  • @BossOGx
    @BossOGx 5 місяців тому

    ya but WILL IT BLEND?

  • @shephusted2714
    @shephusted2714 5 місяців тому

    these prices are out the window - wait for zen5 news at ces

  • @HarkaranSinghBindra
    @HarkaranSinghBindra 5 місяців тому

    Adding an ARC GPU alongside a 4090 is not going to give you what the iGPU will give. Remember the PCIE lanes are limited.

  • @zachhayes4954
    @zachhayes4954 5 місяців тому

    SEO as an ex JarJar

  • @fitztech
    @fitztech 5 місяців тому +1

    I wish I could trust gigabyte again but I’ve had too many z690s and b650s from them with screaming loud coil whine. Not worth the risk.

  • @devent5181
    @devent5181 5 місяців тому

    You should review the Asrock Livemixer z790

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  5 місяців тому

      I’m good

    • @MadMexism
      @MadMexism 5 місяців тому

      If this $700 motherboard cant compete, you think this guys gonna review one thats $300?

    • @devent5181
      @devent5181 5 місяців тому

      @@MadMexism trying to fire shots when you dont have common sense. if a 300 board can do it why spend 700.... wow your so smart

    • @MadMexism
      @MadMexism 5 місяців тому

      @@devent5181 not firing shots at all. Just saying this guy only does top tier products. $300 boards can be reviewed on other mainstream channels. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @z590iGeeeKReBoRN
    @z590iGeeeKReBoRN 5 місяців тому

    What's a disquord, I don't have 12thgen + to test but on 11th, gear 1 is better for GAMING for Gamers, can you try maybe

  • @wevsky
    @wevsky 5 місяців тому

    why would anyone want 8000xmp cl38 ?

  • @recapturedcountry
    @recapturedcountry 5 місяців тому

    lets' go

  • @shanebrownlee69
    @shanebrownlee69 5 місяців тому

    I attempted to subscribe to get Discord access this morning and was prompted with an uncooperative "PayPal is being a dick" message. Are subs still possible via your website?

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  5 місяців тому

      What was the actual PayPal message? haha

    • @shanebrownlee69
      @shanebrownlee69 5 місяців тому

      @@FrameChasers "Things don't appear to be working at the moment. Please try again later."
      Edit: Logged in fine separately on browser and mobile, no issues there. Seems there's some sort of technical issue between the website and PayPal.

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  5 місяців тому

      Interesting which option did you try to sub? Il check to see if it’s broken, thanks for the help

    • @shanebrownlee69
      @shanebrownlee69 5 місяців тому

      @@FrameChasers tried tier 2 monthly. I'll try again when I wake up tonight. Thanks for the replies.

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  5 місяців тому +1

      Your right it’s broken for me too, I will regenerate the button when I get back to my hotel room, thanks man

  • @unitybeing777
    @unitybeing777 5 місяців тому

    You rocking it, you killing it, you owning, you pwning it, you are great.

  • @reloadingdontshoot1
    @reloadingdontshoot1 5 місяців тому +1

    Damn, that's a massive letdown. Was hyped for this board. Now I'd give it a hard pass

  • @l.u.k.e.c.r.e.n
    @l.u.k.e.c.r.e.n 5 місяців тому

    surprise surprise, another motherboard most people won’t even dream of spending the money on garnering exactly zero benefits over much cheaper options…

  • @metromelvin
    @metromelvin 5 місяців тому

  • @tony_bauer
    @tony_bauer 5 місяців тому +1

    Not a fan of Gigabyte at all. One of their PSU’s blew on me and just last week one of their 4090’s went bad. I’m done with them.

  • @toonnut1
    @toonnut1 5 місяців тому +1

    I've got the apex encore. im sure if you run 2 graphics cards, they go to 8x from 16

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  5 місяців тому

      The 4x slot

    • @toonnut1
      @toonnut1 5 місяців тому

      @FrameChasers oh I thought you said the bottom slot no problem thanks

  • @PiPoLiNiO_
    @PiPoLiNiO_ 5 місяців тому

    Hi. I love your complaining about companies and ddr5. I have already processed 7 pieces of 14900K + Apex Encore, Dark Hero and 2 pieces of Aorus Master X. What irritates me is that you don't show the voltages for 7800 and 8000 when it's already working stably. Could you add the voltages from this Gigabyte to all under 7800 or 8000?

  • @TronTonics
    @TronTonics 5 місяців тому

    How to they go from a nice Master board to this ugly thing smh.

  • @subramaniamchandrasekar1397
    @subramaniamchandrasekar1397 5 місяців тому

    "Happy new year boys".. So you don't expect grown people would watch your channel?

  • @lordace8795
    @lordace8795 5 місяців тому

    667th like

  • @nivea878
    @nivea878 5 місяців тому +3

    unbiasly? 😂 quote "dude, i hate f* ryzen systems, bro, its a fucking fresh windows install" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Multimeter1
      @Multimeter1 5 місяців тому +2

      He is right Ryzen is actually bad for latency and frame pacing.... Intel still wins, Ryzen is just competitive for budget gamers

    • @OdinAlgeron
      @OdinAlgeron 5 місяців тому

      @@Multimeter1 the only reason ryzen is even considered an gaming option by a lot of people is because of these morons gimping the intel setups in their comparison "benchmarks"

    • @InnocentiusLacrimosa
      @InnocentiusLacrimosa 5 місяців тому

      Hates them for their properties instead of the brand. If the chip is good, he can recommend it as you can hear from his 5800X3D commentary. It is just that the AMD-fanatics try to paint everything positive. They tout power efficiency when doing blender tasks and stay silent on power efficiency when doing just web browsing, they were VERY vocal on power efficiency against RTX 3000-series, but they are suddenly VERY silent on power efficiency comparing 7000 series and RTX 4000-series, they dumped on e-cores and its hardware scheduler early issues, but the lasso-BS on 7950X3D is somehow OK. It is just endless stream of dishonesty.

  • @YTMS879
    @YTMS879 5 місяців тому

    gigabyte always screws me with memory

  • @savobaus3491
    @savobaus3491 5 місяців тому +1

    Gigabyte is ass