Awesome guide, and I'm almost completely in agreement - just a couple things. 1 - Thresh stuns w/ F3 are actually 290% ability damage (the '+15% per rank' is of the principal damage of the ability, not ability damage itself), not that this really changes anything. 2 - I think it's quite a bit more beneficial for non-ZGS owners than the video would indicate. For them, there are 40 seconds where you're doing a whole lot of nothing aside from maybe tossing a tendrils or slaughter, maybe rotating standard threshes once, and otherwise just maintaining near full adren in preparation for zerk coming back. Fully channeling vs. a single target not only gets you an average of ~54%d/t (this is like a 50% increase over the d/t of cleave/sever/etc.), which on its own is a respectable enough damage to justify using in that case, but the 4.8s reduction in zerk cd means reducing ult downtime by more than 10%. This compounds, too, your second zerk will come 4.8 seconds earlier than expected, third zerk 9.6s earlier, and so on. As you rightly noted this will only result in a tangible benefit in longer fights, but seeing as using this shouldn't net you any lost dps elsewhere as far as I can figure, that's an appreciable benefit. All in all this was terrific, from the quality of the info right through the production quality tbh. Thanks for the shout out as well :)
Thanks for making these. I have very limited time per week these days to play anything, so the last thing I want to do during that time is trying to figure all this shit out.
If you haven't finished your barge video yet, try zerk barge assault hurricane flurry force-backhand, make sure you get adren from barge. assault + cane in zgs then tendrils as it ends, mutated flurry if you have spare adren/haven't used slaughter
@@ravlarrs4373 Not really, 188 vs 205 max and saving 5 ticks on assault, assuming an auto attack is worth a tick (slightly more with grimoire, cancelled out by the 17% increase on barge), you save 4 ticks in zerk which means an extra 188+ ability, 8 adren and fitting 4 thresholds without sigil. incase you don't know. most of the time hurricane is same or more dps than destroy nowadays because of lunging, flanking and tons of 188's. the extra ~12 adren allows you to fit 2 flurries in 1 minute, by using cane instead of destroy in zgs you can fit tendrils, flurry and still zerk 5 seconds earlier while saving assault because next cycle you zerk barge then 5taa DoT assault and hurricane with sigil
I'm not challenging you, just trying to understnad 100% what you're saying. It would be easier if you contact me on discord so we can discuss this properly :). Thanks for the comment.
@@ravlarrs4373; please do test if mutated barge spreads mutated flurry as an aoe in your next video. Might break the meta for aoe with that combo(if it works) and bladed dive or you could swap to a 2h pop cleave, quake and spin if you wanted to add in some sweaty swaps.
(Can already foresee the attacks in the replies but) please stop using the apache helicopter joke, it's a straight up mockery of non-binary people, and it invalidates their identities/encourages discrimination against them. Your videos are really informative and high quality but I would love if you could be inclusive of marginalized communities :) a joke just isnt worth another person's suffering :/
I understand there might not have been bad intentions behind it, but the effect of (widely-used) jokes like this on non-binary people are very much real (See "sissy" comment to begin with, lmao). Appreciate the reply and looking forward to more inclusivity in the future! :)
@@wm604, so any joke that anyone takes offense to it inherently off limits by that train of thought. Your sensorship of others senses' of humor offends me. So shouldn't that be sponsored by your own belief?
Awesome guide, and I'm almost completely in agreement - just a couple things.
1 - Thresh stuns w/ F3 are actually 290% ability damage (the '+15% per rank' is of the principal damage of the ability, not ability damage itself), not that this really changes anything.
2 - I think it's quite a bit more beneficial for non-ZGS owners than the video would indicate. For them, there are 40 seconds where you're doing a whole lot of nothing aside from maybe tossing a tendrils or slaughter, maybe rotating standard threshes once, and otherwise just maintaining near full adren in preparation for zerk coming back. Fully channeling vs. a single target not only gets you an average of ~54%d/t (this is like a 50% increase over the d/t of cleave/sever/etc.), which on its own is a respectable enough damage to justify using in that case, but the 4.8s reduction in zerk cd means reducing ult downtime by more than 10%. This compounds, too, your second zerk will come 4.8 seconds earlier than expected, third zerk 9.6s earlier, and so on. As you rightly noted this will only result in a tangible benefit in longer fights, but seeing as using this shouldn't net you any lost dps elsewhere as far as I can figure, that's an appreciable benefit.
All in all this was terrific, from the quality of the info right through the production quality tbh. Thanks for the shout out as well :)
1:57 is that your subscriber voice :L. Fucking fantastic review. You are killing itm and deserve more recognition.
Good analysis as always! And yeah I did use a flurry switch at Airuts (due to their spec).
Thanks for making these. I have very limited time per week these days to play anything, so the last thing I want to do during that time is trying to figure all this shit out.
I gotchu fam, glad i can help you.
What song starts at 9:30? I've heard it in a few of your vids.
what was the song
in the last bit of this video
Can you please do a limitless ability guide
If you haven't finished your barge video yet, try zerk barge assault hurricane flurry force-backhand, make sure you get adren from barge. assault + cane in zgs then tendrils as it ends, mutated flurry if you have spare adren/haven't used slaughter
im working on it to release for tomorrow. but if i do zerk barge, I miss the auto + cleave which is more damage all together.
@@ravlarrs4373 Not really, 188 vs 205 max and saving 5 ticks on assault, assuming an auto attack is worth a tick (slightly more with grimoire, cancelled out by the 17% increase on barge), you save 4 ticks in zerk which means an extra 188+ ability, 8 adren and fitting 4 thresholds without sigil. incase you don't know. most of the time hurricane is same or more dps than destroy nowadays because of lunging, flanking and tons of 188's. the extra ~12 adren allows you to fit 2 flurries in 1 minute, by using cane instead of destroy in zgs you can fit tendrils, flurry and still zerk 5 seconds earlier while saving assault because next cycle you zerk barge then 5taa DoT assault and hurricane with sigil
I'm not challenging you, just trying to understnad 100% what you're saying. It would be easier if you contact me on discord so we can discuss this properly :). Thanks for the comment.
@@ravlarrs4373 sure i'll try when im free
If you're gonna play distracting music in the background of an informational video, at least tell me the name of the song(s) in the description bruh.
IM SORRY :'(
couchy + mutated barge = pls nerf
He made it overpowered 😂😂
couchy is overpowered without it, he needs to be nerfed. Not fair on us mortals :(
Would the mutated flurry used after the Mutated barge apply the damage over time as an aoe?
@murph that is an awesome question lol, but sadly no - would be epic lol.
@@ravlarrs4373; please do test if mutated barge spreads mutated flurry as an aoe in your next video. Might break the meta for aoe with that combo(if it works) and bladed dive or you could swap to a 2h pop cleave, quake and spin if you wanted to add in some sweaty swaps.
quake and hurricane? you can't use those if you're dual wielding, flurry is alright in some cases if you're using something like fury blades.
yer but quake and furry are less dps than destroy - why would you use fury blades lol?
@@ravlarrs4373 because they are much cheaper so people without enough money to buy lance, scythe, ect. can only use blades :(
Lmao Teal, this video isn't a guide for people who haven't figured out how easy it is to make 10 bil in this game. (spoiler - it's easy)
me ZGS
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Appreciate you called me by my preffered gender! #AttackHelicopterSquad
you deserve to be recognised for who you are inside.
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(Can already foresee the attacks in the replies but) please stop using the apache helicopter joke, it's a straight up mockery of non-binary people, and it invalidates their identities/encourages discrimination against them. Your videos are really informative and high quality but I would love if you could be inclusive of marginalized communities :) a joke just isnt worth another person's suffering :/
Ahh man I'm so sorry it makes you feel that way. Honestly is intended in good humour. Don't want to make anyone feel bad.
... you recognize that it was a joke but still get offended on someone else's behalf.... Dumbfounding.
Sissy
I understand there might not have been bad intentions behind it, but the effect of (widely-used) jokes like this on non-binary people are very much real (See "sissy" comment to begin with, lmao). Appreciate the reply and looking forward to more inclusivity in the future! :)
@@wm604, so any joke that anyone takes offense to it inherently off limits by that train of thought. Your sensorship of others senses' of humor offends me. So shouldn't that be sponsored by your own belief?