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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • We have a pretty big list of things to get done on Randy’s car before this weekend! Let’s see if we can get some measurements on the anti squat and scale the car out! It’s heavy! And I think we have an issue!
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  • @leroythemastermechanic
    @leroythemastermechanic Рік тому +17

    Those rear shocks should have been mounted in "double shear". The rear shocks are currently mounted against the rotation of the Heim joints, they should be mounted just like the trailing arms. This current setup WILL bind NEAR the ends of the travel in jounce and rebound.

  • @michaelwynne4346
    @michaelwynne4346 Рік тому +2

    Took my car to a well known Chassis guy and he allowed me to watch him and gave me some pointers, best money i ever spent saved me alot of time and money.

  • @pawpawsgarage4641
    @pawpawsgarage4641 Рік тому +5

    Really do not like the lower shock mounts. Should not a spherical "rod" end be mounted the same as a heim joint (turned 90 degree from where they are now)?

  • @user-nt8tv9fi3m
    @user-nt8tv9fi3m Рік тому +3

    Unhook your passenger side top bar. Square your 4 link to the main loop. Set your ride height and put your driver in it. Make sure the reared is square. Sweat Racing

  • @bulletproofracing388
    @bulletproofracing388 Рік тому +1

    If one of the upper control arm has some pre load in it, (shorter) , than that side will not hang as low as the other side, and it has to have some preload in it to go straight. And no matter the the anti squat, the car will only seperate till the upper control arm is level, after that it pushes front end up, and I love this car on the channel, and know it’ll fly once it’s ironed out, but I really think it could benefit from a stator change in the converter. Seems it is super tight early on making it hard to get off the line. And high percentage of slip out the back, that’s where the mph is your chasing with the more power it’s making, Just my 2 cents. Can’t wait to see the video of it from this weekend coming up!!!!!

  • @Keiththescoutcrazy
    @Keiththescoutcrazy Рік тому +3

    Turn the shock mounts 90 degrees, they'll never Bind up. It's not a 4 by four, it's a drag Racer.

    • @vrm86gt
      @vrm86gt Рік тому +1

      Agreed on that bottom shock mount, I'd turn it sideways!

  • @garylucier6817
    @garylucier6817 Рік тому +1

    The right rear frame appears bent upwards, so the shock mount point on right rear is up higher than the left rear.
    Just my 2 cents but that is a repair that needs dealt with first. Take both shocks off the car. Drop the rear end down on 2 jack stands till level, now measure floor up to the upper shock mount centers? Still off...redo the upper right rear shock mount to match the left rear ground to center, then remount after measuring the full extension on both shocks off the car. Fix the shocks if not matching, then remount them and measure rear again.

  • @lukeb.8478
    @lukeb.8478 Рік тому +4

    Pull the anti roll bar arms and sèe if it levels out

    • @thehotrodstation3313
      @thehotrodstation3313 Рік тому

      Definitely could have some twist

    • @tommywilliams5135
      @tommywilliams5135 Рік тому

      The problem is preload in antiroll bar first thing always do is on hook oneside it was still hook up in video

  • @Hammerback0
    @Hammerback0 Рік тому +4

    Seems like Tim Mcamus has a video on suspension setup. Man is a wealth of knowledge

    • @user-mm1se7gy7e
      @user-mm1se7gy7e Рік тому +2

      Kevin Wilson also has an excellent suspension setup channel .

    • @sodbuster4296
      @sodbuster4296 Рік тому

      Bill Kuhlman -orig.pro-mod & 1st 200 mph door car has a Facebook 1x week podcast and built many chassis.

  • @Jared45513
    @Jared45513 Рік тому +1

    So how can you run all steel all glass if there's all that bondo??? Lol.... just playin. As I and others have said before the car is gorgeous, that glossy red, smoked headlights, those black Alpha rims..... mmmmmm checkin all the boxes. I'm not even a ford nut,(really I like em all), but the fact Randy kept a Ford powerplant is the cherry on top for me. Keep grindin yall will get to your goals!

  • @momentummotorsports6137
    @momentummotorsports6137 Рік тому +3

    Man i say it every time but that car is beautiful, i know you guys will get it ironed out

  • @philbetthauser9547
    @philbetthauser9547 Рік тому +2

    Its definitely an art setting up the suspension correctly.

  • @dustinsellers9703
    @dustinsellers9703 Рік тому +1

    Check your shock settings , make sure they're the same before you do anything drastic , its very common to have them different and easy to lose track of

  • @ButchRacing1
    @ButchRacing1 Рік тому +6

    shock sensor topped out

  • @BillyP-49Chevy
    @BillyP-49Chevy Рік тому +1

    Duhh, take total length of car and divide by 2. I got you John. I got you.

  • @crazees
    @crazees Рік тому +1

    That would scare me! Double shear the other way is a lot safer. Switch shocks side to side.

  • @dustinsellers9703
    @dustinsellers9703 Рік тому +1

    Always start from full tight , no matter what anyone says

  • @thomasward4505
    @thomasward4505 Рік тому +3

    Not sure about that intro music

  • @PaulRhodes420
    @PaulRhodes420 Рік тому

    Oh John, you're a good artist, perfect dots & lines, just connect the dots & whah lah~there you go! 😂👍

  • @bartpang
    @bartpang Рік тому +1

    I would think you would want to be in the 175% or more AS with the unequal length bars. I would also make sure the shocks are the same extended length.

  • @keithohanesian8653
    @keithohanesian8653 Рік тому

    Preload in the upper bar and anti roll

  • @jtcoker2684
    @jtcoker2684 Рік тому

    Cool, informative video! Tell randy I have a brand new steel rear quarter panel for that car. Lol. I bought a coupe like his and it came with the car. Guy said it was the only one in the world. Idk. Love the videos man

  • @brainward2611
    @brainward2611 Рік тому

    Can't wait to see what it is my car is the same we just staggered the shock mounts we were in a hurry

  • @strokermaverick
    @strokermaverick Рік тому +1

    Yall, will figure it out! You're, on your way! Randy's, car will be flying soon!

  • @sanger440
    @sanger440 Рік тому

    In my limited experience, 129 percent anti squat is not enough AS to get enough separation for radials.

  • @young11984
    @young11984 Рік тому +2

    Did you measure the actual shock length to be sure they arent sticking and are free moving without the springs? Ive seen new shocks gall in the bore, it was a fluke shock and hasnt happened again but anytime something strange happens its the first thing we go to now lol

    • @Jared45513
      @Jared45513 Рік тому +1

      I wouldn't have thought of that.. it's always the fluke things like that that are permanently ingrained in your brain once you FINALLY find the problem lol.

  • @robertdouglas3456
    @robertdouglas3456 Рік тому

    Measure from the bottom of the frame to the top of the tire!🤩🤩

  • @user-nt8tv9fi3m
    @user-nt8tv9fi3m Рік тому

    On small tire angle the bottom bar up and your going to need a long IC to help the weight of the car. Or either move some weight to the rear of the car.

  • @jasonwoodruff6747
    @jasonwoodruff6747 Рік тому +1

    Great info as usual brother!

  • @jonwheeler2414
    @jonwheeler2414 Рік тому

    Man having a little guy around help Courtney is top notch

  • @todds5956
    @todds5956 Місяць тому

    Great video thanks. I'm just setting up my Fairmont, it hasnt been on the track yet. I have adjustable lower brackets and 3 holes on the top bars. I'm running a QP 9 inch so the housing tabs are a little higher than a 8.8. I want to get it set up best I can before going to the track. Thanks

  • @tomhamilton9140
    @tomhamilton9140 Рік тому

    Hope to seeing improvements next time out. Thanks for the updates.

  • @DeezGarage
    @DeezGarage Рік тому

    That could have been from rockingham who’s your daddy when he went towards the wall and the rear left was a foot off the ground, him counter steering it. Maybe that got it?!

  • @zanellewellyn1667
    @zanellewellyn1667 Рік тому

    The rear end will hang like that when there is pre-load in the four bar.

  • @Gatf4
    @Gatf4 Рік тому

    Lots of good ideas here. You’ll figure it out

  • @robertbriggs4176
    @robertbriggs4176 Рік тому +2

    Take measurements from the frame, NOT the body.

  • @Joshsmithits
    @Joshsmithits Рік тому

    Need to see how it sits with Randy sitting in the driver seat!

    • @Joshsmithits
      @Joshsmithits Рік тому

      The anti roll bar is extending his side down, to compensate for his weight

  • @KingdomHeartsKid01
    @KingdomHeartsKid01 Рік тому

    5 Thousand views and only 570 likes..😞..come on people smash that like 👍button!! Love your videos Turbo John!! 👍

  • @tinoracing7
    @tinoracing7 Рік тому

    What makes the rear and be on one side then the other is I believe if you're not running Center pinion

  • @davidreed6070
    @davidreed6070 Рік тому

    I am waiting for that car to knock off a low 4.sec pass

  • @josephyoung2204
    @josephyoung2204 Рік тому

    TJ go over and look at mak/TV he just had the same things going on with his truck and he got it fixed

  • @robholmes2129
    @robholmes2129 Рік тому

    right shock is showing less shaft then the driver shock

  • @jims5852
    @jims5852 Рік тому

    Good luck guys!

  • @MET90LX
    @MET90LX Рік тому

    Randy got money. Get than man a set of pro jacks.

  • @robertquesenberry8651
    @robertquesenberry8651 Рік тому

    Shocks travel off move shocks to top hole measure shock travel then adjust it to make it equal you need to now shock travel set it on ground see where your travels at go from there had problems on my car when shock mounts where moved didn’t catch it until later measure your shock when it’s down on ground measure your shock shaft go from there good luck

  • @heytonyman
    @heytonyman Рік тому

    John, your 9.75” upper bar measurement, is that the actual distance from bolt hole to bolt hole? Or is that true horizontal distance as installed in the car?

  • @NoOne-uu2zt
    @NoOne-uu2zt Рік тому +2

    Please don't see this as disrespect as it's not intent ! But my question is with randy in car does that change the difference in distance from side to side ! I honestly don't know so I'm asking

    • @hoost3056
      @hoost3056 Рік тому +2

      Car needs to be scaled and aligned with the driver in it. Randy is a big guy and whatever settings are established with him out the car will change with him in it.

    • @attitudeadjusted9027
      @attitudeadjusted9027 Рік тому

      ​@@hoost3056kinda a lard a$$ comment. You should be ashamed 🤯

  • @tommywilliams5135
    @tommywilliams5135 Рік тому

    Rearend problem is in antiroll bar un hook one side it has preload in it instant center I would move bottom bar down in rear top bar up in front

  • @johnsargeant2041
    @johnsargeant2041 Рік тому

    Even at the 14:04 time on this video, when yall set the car down on the scales on the blocks. You can see that left rear conner come down first, and the right front conner come down last of them all. It's like the car is in a bind sumwere .. or is it the way the lift is coming down .

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 Рік тому

      Or the way the chassis is bent from an impacts(s).

    • @johnsargeant2041
      @johnsargeant2041 Рік тому

      Something's a little off somewhere. Whether it was the lift or the car itself, but it's obviously there was a differenc in rear end travel or leight, and it made a big difference when you dropped it on the right side just trying to adjust it..

  • @brocephus1758
    @brocephus1758 Рік тому

    Would flipping the shock mount in the bracket change the angle of the bar/mount reducing the impingement from angle?

  • @Blain5700
    @Blain5700 Рік тому

    LETS GOOOOOOOOOO!!

  • @jeffreypelletier7247
    @jeffreypelletier7247 Рік тому

    One shock longer then the other?

  • @jsp5407
    @jsp5407 Рік тому +1

    Would u possibly get a devin to help yall get started with a solid tune? From a pro ? Jwn

    • @jkfonyi
      @jkfonyi Рік тому +1

      Tkm does Randy’s tune . John just does power management

    • @jsp5407
      @jsp5407 Рік тому

      @@jkfonyi they do !?

  • @thedirtyvert
    @thedirtyvert Рік тому

    shoot for 190is 10 high 30in... thank me later

  • @2tufff587
    @2tufff587 8 місяців тому

    Hey turbo John what’s the ground clearance on this mustang from the ground trying to get a general idea for my mustang

  • @johncruz832
    @johncruz832 Рік тому

    Did you guys get the rear end figured out ? Why is it off ?

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Рік тому

      We did not figure it out......but for sure think the hanging difference is part of the issue

  • @jkfonyi
    @jkfonyi Рік тому

    Your sure that car ain’t tweaked from the wreck ?

  • @hevykevy56
    @hevykevy56 Рік тому

    John fyi that intro music is terrible in my opinion, but love ya channel ❤

  • @bobaque70
    @bobaque70 Рік тому

    Promod problems!!!!

  • @russellridge8623
    @russellridge8623 Рік тому

    What’s wrong is that god forsaken excuse for music in your vids.

  • @attitudeadjusted9027
    @attitudeadjusted9027 Рік тому +1

    Sup with the woke intro music 😢

  • @laska4075
    @laska4075 Рік тому +1

    It looks like you have the wrong length shock on there or the sensor is topped out