Russia's M110: The MTs-566 In Ukraine
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- On 15 March, a Russian Federal News Agency report interviewed a sniper from Wagner. The report gave us our first good look at the MTs-566 7.62x51mm semi-automatic precision rifle designed at Tula.
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Gotta love the early-2000s site design of the manufacturer
Yeah, but it's only a backup so why why reinvent the wheel?
Them being a part of MIC it's a miracle they're allowed to have a public site at all.
Also its russia, everything being shit is just the default.
That's modern Russia for you...
@@aenorist2431 It's the world's largest trailer park.
I have heard of this rifle, but this is the first time I have seen it fired. Seems to work well for fast follow ups. Also suppressor seems to work very well. I am surprised they did not try to cludge 7.62x54R into the thing, ha.
I get hard sometimes too when I first see a firearm being…
Discharged.
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I know right!! Like .308 isn't popular in Russia
7.62x54R cartridge design is severely outdated
@@onerxowns2202 why's that? How different is it from .308?
Interesting that they are using a 7.65 x 51mm round.
So much easier to get rimless to feed from a mag than rimmed.
@@LRRPFco52 yeeep. And Russia has been making serviceable .308 for years.
The FSB and SSO have used the HK MR308 in 7.62x51mm and various Accuracy International rifles in 7.62x51mm or .338 Lapua Magnum for many years.
Russia has been making .308 rifles for 25+ years. They use .308 in newer designs due to simpler mag designs/feeding from the rimless cartridge, while the rimmed 7.62x54R has no issue feeding from belts, which is why even their newest belt-fed machine gun designs still use it. A second factor is the unlimited supply of match grade ammo for the hunting and sporting sectors of the civilian firearms market, which allows Russia to get a quick logistic stream of precision ammo to their forces, removing the need to retool their extensive 7.62x54R production lines, all while new domestic 7.62x51 production lines can be formed.
@@CH3TN1K313 damn. That's a concise explanation. I have an ar10 that has never had brass. Only wolf and silver bear. So, I speak only to what I know. And it's that Russian steel case ammo has fed flawlessly, shot consistently enough for the price. And lastly, the soft point ammo is stupid good. Put meat in the freezer easily. A little high on the flash in a 16" barreled rifle
Very interesting, thank you.
Thank you!
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Thank you. Interesting piece of kit. Worth my Patreon money to support this kind of material.
Really, really appreciate that support Michael. Thank you.
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Interesting, Wagner seems to have some flexibility, not sure if they are actually using those AR-15 type rifles in some photos or if they're are just trophies or loot. I thought that the Russians are replacing their Dragunov with the new Chukavin (SVCh) rifle, curious if there has been any footage or pictures of them being used thus far.
Wagner has been seen in Syria wearing US-made after-market combat clothing in ATACS. They've been acquiring NightForce and Schmidt & Bender scopes, US Garmin GPSs, and lots of other US and European-made gear that actually is quality.
Combat vet reacts youtube channel just put out a video that says China has been confirmed supplying M4 clones to Russia.
@@LRRPFco52 Not just Wagner. Most Russian special forces almost exclusively use Western gear or copies of it. FSB is more or less only seen in Multicam. SSO almost only use Multicam and A-TACS FG. Any special unit, that can get away with it, will avoid EMR like the plague. Even the Russian National Guard has adopted a copy of A-TACS FG as their official standard pattern.
I’ve seen certain individuals in spetsnaz running drills with AR-15’s alongside others with various Soviet and Russian firearms.
Not super strange, not like no one in the US military hasn’t ever picked up an AK before.
We admire some of their kit, and they’re jelly as fuck about ours.
@@dee_vee_ civilian chinese AR-15 are on sale in Russia for at least 10 years. You can just buy the off the shelf
WTF, it got pic rail sections on the side of receiver right above the grip/trigger?
I assume that it is mainly for fitting sling attachments to, but suppose it could also be used as an alternate place to mount 45 degree red dots.
Might work for optics bases that normally side-mount? I thought this was odd too
Could use more rail....
Agreed!
Quad rail is love
Quad rail is life
It depends, its not always necessary.
@@Isaac-ho8gh but sarcasm is
@@thenowhere4882 what's that got to do with this? Lol
Great video!
Thank you, thanks for watching
That’s one wonky ar10…
more like bastard child of SVD and AR10
My thoughts exactly..
It can use AR grips, stocks on a receiver extension, mags, and is chambered in 7.62x51mm; but based on the bolt and long stroke piston of the ots-129, I'd say it is probably closer to an SVD in operation despite its outward appearance.
@Thomas Carman he said it was short stroke and I think it is.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 ah. I thought it was just a civilian production of the ots-129. IIRC, the dragnov was also a short stroke piston
great footage
3:12 When he said that the bullet is smallrr, is he comparing it to, say, 54R?
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
It looks like a cross breed between an sf-49 and an ar-15 with modern furniture.
can you cover Lobaev's AR rifles in the conflict? thank you
I can start tracking them sure! If you spot any send link to armourersbench@gmail.com
remembers me a mix of AR and SKS. Interesting!
Why not make polymer dragunovs?
They do. This rifle was made by a civilian company.
@@baneofbanes that's cool. Because I thought that .308 isn't popular in Russia, so they could just continue using 7.62X54R since it's a lot more popular there.
even if the Russians plant potatoes, they still grow a Kalashnikov assault rifle :)
Обрати внимание на винтовку орсис т-5000 под .300 WinMag или под финский .338 LM. Или винтовки Лобаева с кучностью 0,2-0,3 MOA
And shovels. 😂
I would commit various shameful acts to buy one of these
What happens when you leave a dragonov and an ar10 in the room together for to long
I have seen some photos of Russian special ops units using HK417s as dmr type rifles. I'm pretty sure I have also seen them with HK416s in the past but they could have just been using them for photo ops. Kinda funny to see such things. It's really hard to deny that the AK platform is obsolete in some ways, particularly as far as modularity is concerned and as far as mounting ir devices for night vision use. It can be done with the zenitco rails but it's quite expensive and requires extensive modification where as the original KAC rails for the m4A1 were very easy to install and hold zero very well.
Got any sources? I would like to see more.
Yes they do have the H&Ks that you mentioned, unfortunately i cant remember who they got them from 🤔 If Mexico can get HKs why can’t the Russians huh ;)
You are quite litteraly braindead if you think AKs are obselete or zenit is the only way to mount optics on them
Все эти трофеи у едениц, кто не использует оружие по назначению, просто, что-бы было и позеры...! Обычно, с трофея снимают какой-то обвес, а сам ствол на приколы всякие оставляют! Зачем тягать с собой оружие, если у окружающих нет патронов и магазинов... Снайперы тоже, в лучшем случае, снимут оптику и все! Трофеев много в подразделениях, но они только для видосиков...!
They are getting a lot of trophies form the bodies of mercs.
Pic rail on the side in the back? Weird
looks like a cnc ar18 in 308
Should replace svd
Seems like absolutely everything and the kitchen sink is being thrown into the war in Ukraine.
0:43 That MTs 567 hunting rifle looks more like an anti material rifle! With kind of animal are they hunting over there?!
Political dissidents maybe?
@@porkpie2965 bear ?
Bears, hogs, moose, some nazis on occasion.
@@RustedCroaker mostly bear
It's basically a civilian version of OSV-96 certified for civil use, tthere are also civilian ASVK, VSSK withour a silencer and all sorts of crazy shit tbh. Also USSR used PTRS for whale hunting I think.
Looks like someone described an M110 over the phone
I'm not familiar with the Hunting Bureau's QC, but i imagine if a Government sponsored PMC group is using a civilian hunting rifle, it may be the individual's personal weapon as there have been rumors of Wagner being severely underequipped (at least the prison battalions) and ammunition going very quickly. Can you elaborate if it was 7.62X54 or 7.62X39? I would assume 54.
He literally said it was chambered in 7.62x51 NATO. I'd argue it's less about Wagner being underequipped and more likely that the guy using it was a hunter or was part of some kind of sports shooting association and when he joined Wagner he got put in a marksman/sniper role because he supplied his own equipment and shot well enough.
Neather, it's a .308win/7.62x51mm nato actually very popular round in Russia for sport and hunting use. As far as Wagner's equipment is concerned they are amongst the best equiped forces. Unites made of prisoners dont have any freedom or money to purchase equipment as they are used to "test" enemy positions. Elite Wagner forces have alot of freedom of choosing equipment they want to carry and have alot of money to purchase what they want since they are well paid.
Yes, definitely x51. You can see the round he holds up in the report. It's interesting!
USSOCOM and various other US military bodies quite often run their own purchasing programs and buy bespoke weapon systems from various US small arms manufacturers even boutique ones so that on it's own isn't unusual. If anything I'm surprised we haven't seen Wagner using western small arms and calibers even more frequently.
Why everyone assumes that they use only the typical soviet ammo. They use all types of ammo for example the orsis T 5000 sniper rifle uses .338 lapua and I believe also variants .308 win
Weirdest spotter scope I've seen in a while lol
Was he shooting one of his own in the back
I want to know more about the SVDK the svd chambered in 9.3x64mm.. Thst is the one gun i want and to see more of
So do I. That family of weapons is very interesting.
It wasn't bought by the military in any meaningful numbers, but found its place as a civilian hunting carabine for large games - the Tiger-9.
Due to the round itself, it has not the best accuracy, but having a heavy hitting follow-up shot is always welcome when you're suddenly charged by your own pray.
What do you know about China supplying CQ-5 M4 clones to Russia?
I haven't seen any in use yet. I've seen the Politico article that came out yesterday about CQs being imported. It's still pretty rare to see Russians using M4 pattern rifles in Ukraine but when they are they are normally captured examples.
@@TheArmourersBench Их практически не используют, чисто штучное позерство людей, которые в боях находятся на задней линии! А китайские М-4 имеют гражданское направление и Norinko давно продает их в РФ!
@@TheArmourersBench Well, not only in general, some have purchased civilian carbines based on the AR-15, I know at least one on an ongoing basis, but it was made to order chambered in 5.45 instead of .223 in order to use army cartridges from supplies on the front line. The main reason for not using .223 (5.56) is the lack of supplies of ammunition, since we do not have 5.56 in service, especially an expanded range of armor-piercing and tracer cartridges.
I've seen reports from the war that the suppressors are still faux, hilariously, in sniper rifles delivered to fighting units
The may not suppress much sound, but they appear to do a good job at suppressing flash and mitigating recoil.
sounded real here
note that we also seen "reports" about the ghost of Kiyev ....
@BloodRaven those reports were from a war thunder youtuber named the Scottish koala. I watched him make that shit up in real time. The reports I'm talking about are alongside photos of the weapon, and a full review including the optics it came with. That particular rifle, issued to snipers iirc not part of Wagner, had a faux suppressor with no baffles.
A single expansion chamber suppressor is still something
Do you have a link to that report with the photos and review? Would love to read it
The tacti-fud in me kinda wants one now 😂
About damn time Russia switches to a rimless round
They aren't switching
It's gotta be limited issuance. There's too many PKs and Dragunovs in service to switch in the middle of the war. Plus, there were Russian ammo factories producing .308 ammo for western markets that have closed due to sanctions so that ammo is available for Wagner to buy off the shelves.
Russia "switched" to .308 about 25 years ago :-) it's produced for civilians and law enforcement usage and there are lots of guns chambered in .308
As for primary military rifle round 7.62*54R isn't going anywhere as it's primary use is machine guns. And PK and it's derivatives works perfectly
@@colbunkmust все патронные заводы так и продолжают выпускать патроны... и .308win и .223rem и .338LM
Binary trigger?
It's a really fast follow up. I haven't seen any mention of a binary.
@@TheArmourersBench are binary triggers even really a thing out side of the American market?
Check out the helmets. Chinese rbr knockoffs
Chinese equipment is showing up gradually on the side of Russians as time passes
You would say the quality of these chink helmets is better or worse than these cosplay helmets russkiye use sometimes.
Everybody tryna be the Scar 20s but can’t
Off topic, but weirdly enought Cap+Helmet makes the helmet look sorta like a stahlhelm lol
Well Wagner is named after a NAZI term so it makes sense lol
"Self-Loading Hunting Carbine MTs-567"
I want to know what they're hunting with a 12.7x108mm round.
polar bears? maybe dinosaurs? that one made me chuckle as well
Probably more a matter of civilian naming convention or a way of circumventing certain regulations.
Moose. They're 1500#
There is a civilian hunting semi-auto DShKs out there.
Those shovels are used by so-called heavy snipers to overmatch any armor at extreme ranges. They are mostly hunting spotters and atgm operators.
I guess instead of “One shot one kill” it’s “Two shots one kill”
Not surprised at all.
Vortex Binocs
Are they, thought it was a monocular. Too busy looking at the rifle.
@@TheArmourersBench not the spotter. The dude holding the rifle and talking. They r hanging around his neck. Just an observation, doesnt mean much. But i noticed b4 the war that russians were adopting alot of our kit.
Ohh so he is!
To bad we can’t buy one in the west.
The M110 and HK417 are probably better in every way.
@@G-Mastah-Fash still, it doesnt hurt russia at all by banning import of their firearms. It hurts the American people.
@@jtkrpm1 You're right, weapon restrictions of any kind are stupid.
Russians using a NATO round is peculiar to me.
It because this rifle was designed under experimental 6.7x51Alatu (use case of 308) . In 2017 General's say that they don't have money on new round, so make in 308 for civilian market because 308 producing a lot for this.
I’d rather take a Zbroayr AR-10 than that, that thing looks terrible
МЦ = MC, not MTs
Thank you, weirdly all the western articles and the translations of Russian articles come out as MTs!
@@TheArmourersBench MTs is two letters, not three.
This is a Cyrillic letter.
It is yes, not sure why all sources refer to it as MTs. Even Russian website Modern Firearms' English article has it as MTs. Weird.
@@TheArmourersBench Because "Ts" is actually a word and not a letter!
The letter "Ц" is pronounced as "Ts"
Ahhh I can see where the confusion has come in then!
Russian forces using NATO ammunition?
I can think of a whole list of reasons.
Russia also uses 9mm Luger. They use it on the PP-2000, PP-19 Vityaz, and MP-443 Grach.
The only ammunition commonly used in World's wars
1. 7.62x39
2. NATO calibers (7.62 and 5.56)
Russia using it is due to Ukraine using it, also for Special forces missions
@@saiprateek5779 7.62x51R in the PKM
@@Kefuddle 54r*
it's rare to see NATO 7.62 on Russian :/
More 308, tha military 7.62nato, but ukrainian help with this.
Rifle was designed under experimental 6.7x51Alatu (use case of 308) . In 2017 General's say that they don't have money on new round, so make in 308 for civilian market because 308 producing a lot for this.
Two shots in quick succession from a DMR…… why
Because that's what they're designed for?
@@winterautumnfishing5215 I’m a designated marksman and I was never trained to do that 😂
@@JohnDoe-eo8ux not everyone is trained the same
@@winterautumnfishing5215 you aren’t going to hit anything at distance shooting like that.
For the photo op obviously.
700-1000m lmao, yeah.
Vasily Zaytsev reincarnate.
It's doable with heavier (70+ grain) projectiles.
Hey, the bullets don't write the battle reports ;)
That's not a stretch for 7.62 NATO, it's well within it's capability.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 baaaaaarely.
Wow 😳
That's a 6000 Ivan built. Over priced at least by 4000 dollars.
So it’s a shitty Soviet knock off m110 like everything else. Got it n
wait why is a russian rifle using a nato caliber?
Same reason you see Ukrainian rifles using soviet caliber.
Because Russia has been making .308 for decades. And they realized how much more effective modern cases are in a magazine
MTs567 a 12.7 hunting rifle 😂
The 'spotter' appears to be using one of those useless piece of crap rangefinder monoculars golfers and pest controllers use.
Yeah, he's not spotting shit through that.
😂 CYKA, why are you always ch1tting on these poor russkiye. Golfers and pest controllers, ahaha.
And the 20x optic on the MTs-566 seems rather old and potentially foggy.
yep the whole setup is a bit odd, it looks like they dragged out their air rifle gadgets from the 90s for a propaganda film. I'm sure ukraine will be happy sticking with .50s or lapua (especially the Accuracy international rifles they have) and thermal spotting scopes. Also it seems like it took this conflict for everybody to finally realise that dragunov SVDs are not a bloody sniper rifle, although russia doesnt seem to have worked out the difference between designated marksman and sniper rifles judging by this (about 1000 metres range is the difference). A very nice designated marksman rifle in its day but they are pretty much obsolete now. In fact I would love to see a video on their use in this conflict.
@@Ukraineaissance2014 fair enough lol
it looks like crap lol
Poopoo
Lmao utilizes a western cartridge
Great video!