I feel like that people put radhan over malenia because they r afraid of the cult like fans attacking them malenia is stronger and we have much more reasons to believe that
@Lufaine01 It's also is Mohg's body fused with Radahn spirit on top of God Miquella buffing him so to say he isn't stronger then his prime is ridiculous. Malenia takes it high diff
There is literally no reason to believe Malenia is stronger than Radahn. The only argument to make is that they were equally strong, because malenia could blow herself up ending things in a tie. (Remember she transported herself into a coma that lasted most likely centuries afterwards) Radahn beat her in their normal fight, being the honorable warrior. It is much more likely that he held back because he didnt want to nuke all the soldiers around him with his gravity magic. As for Rot-Godess Malenia? Yeah there is an argument to make that her ascended form is stronger than Radahn.
i don’t think godefroy is godrick. i think godrick was such a coward that instead of marching with his army like malenia, radahn, or morgott, he made a stunt double to go in his place. the stunt double stole the rune for him, got captured and his identity exposed, whilst godrick acquires a great rune without ever leaving the castle. cus i mean, does godrick look like a fella who leaves his castle? even kenny haight thought he was a coward. yet, he has a great rune
He got the idea of grafting from Godfrey, who grafted the beast Serosh to his back. Godrick idolizes Godfrey, as he set up shot in the castle with imagery of him and bears a lion on his great axe. The main difference is Godfrey grafted to reduce his power by lowering his bloodlust in order to be a more proper ruler. Godrick however, tried to graft to gain power, which is the opposite of what Godfrey intended.
Everything we are fighting is past their prime. So it makes sense when we go to a place where things have been outside of the shattering influence, the event that nerfed them all, we have trouble defeating them. DLC is tougher due to lore.
A few of them like Radahn and Rennala are weakened, but a lot of them are at their strongest by the time we get to them. Morgott and Mohg are pretty much unchanged, apart from gaining Great Runes. The nature of grafting and the God-Devouring Serpent means that Godrick and Rykard only get stronger as time goes on. Malenia might be a worse swordsman, but the rot makes up for it. I also don’t see any reason why Maliketh would be any weaker either seeing as he still has the Rune of Death
"We wanna fight someone in their prime" Now some of us players are begging Fromsoft to nerf the final dlc boss lmao edit: He's probably stronger than his prime considering he's blessed by a God
@@kamamara2567actually due to the Dlc Top 1 is Marika The elden beast is A separate entity from the elden ring It lives in the elden ring And Can manage it like how it imprisoned Marika But it is not a God in the Normal sense It a vassal of a god Marika is A legit god That's why we can kill it and The elden ring still exist we can use it's power and Have no need for the Beast
There’s also the fact that not only Maliketh’s Power wasn’t complete, he was physically weakened since he could never be sated and was always starving. Maliketh is pinnacle.
@@DecimaarZmost definitely only being behind Elden beast and especially when destined death is kill on contact existence erasure on uni-multi versal level potency
@@DecimaarZ I beg to differ Miquella’s feat are to much for Maliketh to be above him. Bayle vs Maliketh is debatable and so is Messmer vs Maliketh aswell
Radhn being known as the mightiest of the demigods isn’t just found in item descriptions. Jerren and Miquella himself thought of him as the strongest, so much so that Miquella desired for him to become his consort because he believed Radahn’s strength and kindness was above that of anyone else, even his twin sister
Him and Godwyn always seemed like they were the true champions of the Lands Between in Lore they just got killed or changed before they could hit full potential
Radahn and malenia fought to a draw implying they’re equal in strength. When the player fights malenia, she’s in second bloom which is her strongest. As for dlc, radahn becomes a complicated topic since it is and isn’t him.
The draw was a technicality based on neither dieing in reality Radahn won the fight by a large margin. Radahn was very much winning pushing Malenia to bloom for the first time and Radahn tank that scarlet rot nuke point blank and then continued to fight Malenia and Radahn eventually completely incapacitated Malenia and she was dragged off the battle field as her entire army had to slow down Radahn who was still very much able to fight
I'd like to remind everyone that the Rot in Malenia isn't just a disease. It is said to be one of the most powerful outer-god-like beings in the known universe. She is an unparalleled swordstress, but that God in her flesh means that her power will outlast her life, and every other demigod doomed to the cycle that rot represents.
Outer gods arenr true gods theyre kami. The translation in words and culture is what confuses yall so much. Kamis are more like a natural disaster influencing life. You cant find any life that was truly made by the outer gods they only corrupt the grester will is the one true god that can make life.
With that being said rot goddess malenia when beat says demigod felled it doesnt say God felled fromsoft wouldnt make that kind of mistake. She was never a true god
@@rushpatriot2866so your saying they contradict themselves? first they name her a goddess in her official title during 2nd phase then says shes a demigod when slayed. I choose to believe she ascended to godhood as to my knowledge every other boss title accurately represents them.
@@rushpatriot2866 Kami literally means god and isn't as black/white as you're implying. A kami being referred to as part of nature simply means they can display good and bad traits, similar to Roman/Greek gods. Also, the Greater Will isn't an outright god, it didn't even originate in the Lands Between, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
@@grimmsby3011 kami and God have the same word but kami isn't used in the same way it's different culture. It's hard to understand lil bro keep with the program
Malenia and Radahn fought to a stalemate while she was supressing all of her Rot, like she is probably one of the few characters we actually see in her true Prime and having a power far above the one she held in the past once she becomes the Goddess of Rot. So Malenia and Radahn were pretty equal before the Rot Ascension so I hardly think he would be able to beat her now in strength.
She got knocked out by her ace attack trying to kill radahn because she couldnt take him down without it and still failed while Radahn was holding bsck the stats. If she wasnt carried away radahn wouldve killed her
@@rushpatriot2866 It is nowhere stated that whatever magic Radahn uses to hold back the stars actually makes him any weaker than he is that is nothing but Speculation, would you placing a dam around water make you any weaker? Actively stopping the water yourself with your own strength sure but we do not know which it is and bringing that up is just pointless. "The Battle of Aeonia Radahn and Malenia locked in stalemate Then, the scarlet rot blooms" And Radahn could not kill her either your point? They were locked in a stalemate with the game being pretty clear about that only then did she uses the Bloom. It was pretty much a stalemate ender that failed with no victore coming out and Radahn is only alive where he is because his Great Rune is literally burning up to save him from the rot.
@@juliusarcher7241 It's called logic and reasoning. Show me a magic ability that sustains itself without using fp. Wait you can't...this is why y'all are wrong so much you lack the ability to use critical thinking skills. I have evidence in the form of elden ring while you don't have sh!t. That's why y'all smooth brains will always hold this L
@@rushpatriot2866 Maybe actually listen to what I said? We have ZERO knowledge of what Radahn does to stop the stars and I literally gave you a example of a dam holding back water. We. Do. Not. Know. Use Arguments you can actually back up and not speculation when it comes to LITERAL MAGIC and NPC magic and Player magic are 2 different things. Ranni made unbreakable wards, made a clone Illusion Rannela and many other passive and active effects yet we are not gonna argue she is now sooo much weaker because she did these things.
Radahn when he met morgot was himself smaller than morgot, so this is clearly a younger radahn, most likely he just began learning gravity magic and had no mastery over it since Leonard could still carry him at such size albeit with some difficulty.
@@pedrohenriquecerqueira3883maybe it was just some training thing? Ik it sounds unlikely cos Morgott is omen but radahn is pretty accepting I would day
Great list but I disagree on a few things. 1 I would put the Lich dragon beneath the omen twins due to being insane and fighting a younger version of a character with not feats. 2, I would put morgott over mogh due to having both the erdtree’s power and some blood magic of his own infused on his sword 3, I would put prime Godfrey and maliketh at the top due to being known as the strongest and being sought out by marika to fight battles she could not. (I would put a non-rune of death Maliketh below Godfrey but if he had it I would favor him)
I agree with the Godfrey/Maliketh statement. Love how Maliketh scales above Demi god scaling would love to see Maliketh vs Rahdan. Would be a match up for the century
i think astel needs to be above renalla. renalla draws her power from glintstone (the stars) and astel is a being born from it (and made up almost entirely of glintstone)
Many people knew of Morgott as the king of Lendeyll, like Gideon. What none of them knew, including Gideon was Morgott's true identity as an omen. That's part of the reason he took on the mantle of Margit the Fell. So he could protect Lendeyll and the Erdtree without anyone ever finding out that their king was an Omen. Something that if widely known, would bring chaos to the city and its residents would most likely try to overthrow and kill him.
Lore about godrick planning becoming elden lord. Steps: 1. -Steal run from rennala -Steal run from morgott -Steal run from radhan -Steal run from melania -Steal run from mogh -Steal run from rykard -Steal run from himself -Steal DD from malekith 2. Approach erdttre when morgott is slepping and burn it with a torch. 3. Eat too many shabririi grapes and become lord of frenzied grafting. 4. - Melania licking godricks feets -Morgott waching his precious tree burning -Radhan hiding in his castle afraid of Godrick -Rykard and Godrick TOOGETHA becomes friends. -Charmed mogh still moghlesting miquella body -Rennala is still crying afther radagon -Godfrey acknowledging Godrick and gives him hug. -Gostoc becomes Godrick promissed consort It is in the lore.
Yeah, but he also lost ALOT in that fight. His wings got shredded, he lost both arms, and he lost one of his legs too. Also, I think taking off some of those heads was luck because Pasidusax's heads can be seen biting into Bayle. So Bayle likely took off straight up in the air while Pasidusax's necks got stuck on his back which resulted in them being ripped off. However, in the end Pasidusax is the one that won that battle because Bayle fled.
In my opinion Malenia Goddess of Rot should be ranked differently from Malenia Blade of Miquella: the prior reached some form of godhood by herself for the god of Rot. Just a glimpse of her power was enough to send Rahdan into madness and cover Eonia with rot and she hadn’t even reached godhood yet
It was not a glimpse, she nuked entire Caelid and almost nuked herself while Radhan went into madness. She was in coma and was carried into haligtree only to be awaken at our arrival, lmao. People are overestimating Malenias power.
@@bartoszboboryko4684dude just read item and remembrance descriptions, it was a glimpse of rot god's power, she had to bloom 3 times to become a true goddess of rot, you are ignorant of your own ignorance
@@jagernkk9875 What did i said that was ignorance ?? She had to bloom 3 times, but it's never stated that she would survive each bloom etc.. After fight with Radahn she's barely alive and it's stated in the game, same as her awakening near missing Miquella. DLC also brought us information that the scarlet rot of Malenia cames from sealed off now outer god.
Malenia and radahn deserve better. Her scarlet aeonia nuke is what made the entirety of caelid a hellhole and radahn was able to survive that, only dying to the scarlet rot after effects and they fought each other to a standstill.
Funny thing, if we take a lot of hypothetical situations and ideas, Cleanrot Knight Finlay would be about equally as powerful, if not more then, some of the characters rated below Malenia. Malenia’s army traveled through the likes of Lyndell and Godrick’s castle. They were likely met with opposition from Godrick’s forces, which is where the boot-licking Godrick happened. Finlay carried Malenia all the way back to the Haligtree, through Godrick’s castle once more where she was likely met with opposition since Malenia was unconscious. Granted it very unclear, but I like the idea of Finlay bullying Godrick to protect Malenia
The Malenia being stronger then Radahn is so stupid argument. Like didn't that same Malenia nuke an entire nation because she couldn't win against Radahn? And even then the battle still only ended in a stalemate. (As said in the video, Radahn could've been retrained, but he didn't mention much about 'that' cutscene, where Radahn managed to detach Malenia's prosthetic arm, seemingly without much effort as he, what I assume, calmly waited for her to put it back on. Possibly implying that it didn't take much effort at all)
@@BENBEN-gb4wi just in the first phase. In the first phase, his body was acting autonomously since he didn't have a soul then. In the second phase, his soul inhabited his body, and he reached a new peak beyond his living days.
@@debater452 Elden Beast isn't really a fighter tbh. I'd believe Radahn could take him. He could probably take Godfrey since Radahn is way bigger, has Gravity magic, and is an aspiring lord of the battlefield. Radagon is a full fledged god. He will body Radahn. And Maliketh is death incarnate. A single would and it'll be done.
Glad to see you know the lore and put Maliketh at 2nd. Way too many cringe Malenia simps and Radahn dudebros who don’t realize Maliketh is HIM, his feats are insane and it’s literally stated that every demigod was terrified of him.
He’s gathering strong bodies to feast on and steal their power and he can reincarnate when defeated if someone else eats his corpses so I’m assuming given time he could become strong enough to beat them but isn’t currently otherwise he’d go eat them now
By lore the top 5 are Marika (She is a legit God) Maliketh (the grim reaper) Malenia (an outer god) Placidusax (elden lord of dragons) Gloam eyed Queen( Grim reaper of The Past specifically in the Realm of shadow lands)
Oh yeah and I think morgott isn’t stronger than Radhan but he was just able to land a blow forcing radhan to fall back and successfully defending the erdtree
After the dlc I would rank Radahn higher in lore purposes, but I don’t see how it could be before. Radahn had all these badass moments in lore (learning gravity magic, holding back the stars, conquering warlord, etc.) which paints a vivid image of who he was to the player. Sounds cool asf until you realize he got hyped up simply to hype up the strongest boss in the base game itself. He’s a bigger than life icon to fanboys now and still couldn’t beat a blind swordsman with literally no legs and a single arm, who he never even managed to force her into her strongest form.
You cant be this goofy. Melania HAD to bloom to STALEMATE with Radahn. She only went Goddess of Rot because she bloomed twice. A third time would literally kill her and give herself to the Goddess of Rot fully. Once she goes Goddess of Rot, she's not herself fully. That's the point of blooming.
@@thesusman1776 well he’s consider to be dragonlord still to the dragons but currently since we have different words for different meanings he is called Elden lord of the dragons, so he is still called Dragon Lord
Video is fire af. Might be controversial, but in my honest opinion I think Mohg scales past both Rykard and Fortissax. A lot of the stuff I say from hereon out will have a lot of speculation and personal analysis of game mechanics, so feel free to comment and correct / dispute me (as long as you're civil about it.) We don't get much combat feats of Mohg, but lore-wise we know that at the very least, he has had close communion with an Outer God (the Formless Mother.) While this connection itself does not say much, I believe that the reason Mohg would scale higher is the specific effect the Formless Mother is tied to: bleed. An astounding 14 (including Mohg himself) out of 15 bosses on this list can bleed, with various resistance levels, with the only exception being the Elden Beast. From a gameplay perspective, bleed is a very strong status (especially in PvE) effect that deals % damage + 100-200 damage depending on the weapon. However, I'm going to use a slightly more realistic approach and (based off of bleed's official name "Hemorrhage:) assume that skills/effects that cause the Hemorrhage status effect cause multiple mid-to-large scale external hemorrhages, leading to blood loss. Going with this slightly more realistic approach, I believe Mohg's wide access to bleed becomes a very strong equalizer in fights, being able to face enemies that may be conventionally stronger than him by abusing Bloodflame to cause such hemorrhages. Not only that, but gameplay-wise, Mohg himself has a passive Lord of Blood's Exultation effect that boosts the damage he deals whenever anything in the vicinity bleeds. Not to mention that if we once again look at gameplay, Mohg has access to limited healing through his Bloodboon Ritual, which could put him back into a fight that he was losing. Another thing that I think makes him much stronger than originally anticipated is that, unlike Morgott, Mohg accepts his Omen heritage. While we don't really get a good peak at Mohg's physique under his robes, he wields a massive trident which is implied to be quite a heavy weapon (through his animations when swinging it), but he swings it with relative ease. We can assume this is thanks to the brute strength that Omens are known for (see Omen Cleaver description), and due to his stature being quite a bit larger than the average Omen in the game (with the general assumption that the Tarnished is about 5'7", Radagon/Marika place around the 8-9ft mark, I'd generally estimate and say Mohg is roughly 11-12ft tall), we can also assume that he is much stronger physically as well. While not reflected very well within the game, I also think that Mohg would have pretty solid mobility owning to his wings. While he moves slow on foot, within the game it's shown that he actually has pretty good control of his wings and is quite fast with them as well. I'd say while definitely not as strong as a dragon's wings, he'd probably be pretty equal with them aerial mobility wise. What I think Mohg's serverly lacks in would be is actual combat experience. While his twin brother, Morgott, has actual fight experience with the lore, we aren't really given a reason to believe Mohg has actually ever directly fought someone besides the Tarnished. My first reason being that while everyone else was occupied with fighting each other, Mohg essentially stole away Miquella's egg and hid away within his palace. Gameplay-wise, it is painfully obvious that nobody taught him how to wield a pointy weapon. He purely relies on his brute strength and generally uses his trident much more akin to a club, and when he does choose to use it as an actual thrusting weapon, generally does not use its range to his advantage and thrusts with just the head of the weapon going a little farther in front of his body. As for pitting him up against Malenia or Radahn, I think Radahn easily clears Mohg simply because of his lack of fighting experience. Radahn is both an honorable warrior and a warmonger, and has numerous years of battle to back it up. Radahn, who is also significantly larger than Mohg would most likey easily overpower him even in a show of brute strength. Even if Mohg was on-par strength-wise with Radahn and managed to make him bleed, Radahn was holding a literal sky of stars up. He could probably decide to just use one like an ICBM and annihilate Mohg (assuming it was a straight-up 1v1; I doubt Radahn would risk his soldiers like that if it was a war, otherwise he probably could've done something similar to Malenia before she nuked Caelid.) Even with his Bloodbloon Ritual (or Nihil, whatever name fits your fancy), I believe Radahn easily clears Mohg, as he is simply shown to be stronger and has much better feats. Malenia, I think, is a much closer battle than people think. Pre-Rot Goddess Malenia, gameplay-wise, is very weak to any weapon that can either send her flying or knock her down. Her combat experience is one that relies much more on swift combat (hence the high dex requirement for her weapon,) and we've already seen that she actually isn't very physically strong (the short cutscene fight between her and Radahn shows that Radahn no-diffs their epic sword clash and basically shatters her katana.) I think Mohg's brutish swings would actually be quite effective against her considering that with the assumptions from earlier, Mohg is exceptionally strong. Plus, Mohg shares the one unique strength Malenia has, which is that connection to an Outer God. Mohg is also surprisingly mobile with his wings, so once again, that surprise mobility paired with his brutish strength put Malenia at a disadvantage, and that's not even taking into account his other abilities, such as Bloodboon and Bloodflame Claws. Against Rot Goddess Malenia, I think that while it still might be close, Malenia would win through Scarlet Rot, similarly to how she stalemated Radahn. tl;dr: I think that ultimately, it goes (from weakest > strongest): Rykard < Fortissax < Pre-Rot Goddess Malenia < Mohg
Debatable since the Young Lion set states that this was before he held back the stars which can be interpreted in many different ways. He could've tried throwing hands when he just became general and lost.
So you're speaking about that one picture of siege of the Royal Capital from the opening trailer, aren't you? Well, Morgott bested Rykard, perhaps, and a lot of stuff was given to the point, that it wasn't our precious General Radahn 😊☺🤗
I LOVED how at the end basiclly he showed how all the runes we got make up the elden ring image i just realised that and it just made the lore better for me
@reign1594 “the fell omen stacked high the bodies of hero’s.” He massacred large portions of army’s without his blood flame or crucible powers or his sword. And he, along with the army of lyndell (which I’ll admit is a big crutch) was able to stave off every demigod who attacked it which is fairly impressive. Also lorewise if he did have other notable feats then he would try his best to make sure nobody knows it was him because he was ashamed of his omen blood.
melenia should easily be placed above radhan. Considering this that she bloomed once more after fighting tarnished. She was a handicapped and still destroyed radahan mental and ended the war. She fought Prime Radahan. In what sense will she be below radahan.
@@unioncare2055 Then it kinda stops being Malenia vs. Radhan at that point and more like Goddess of Rot vs. Radhan since it would basically be using Malenia as a puppet. Also, Malenia having to resort to a suicidal nuke during the fight kind of implies that she knew she wasn't strong enough to beat him on her own.
Putting Morgott so low with knowing that he won against Prime Radahn after the shattering in his margit version and without is sword fascinates me. Even insaner when you realize that Radahn was a godfrey fanboy but in all that time he never achieved to took over the capital bc of Morgott. There is a reason why Morgott is the main antagonist of the first half of the game
Crazy how this guy is talking about ranking them based off of legit lore yet just completely says “no I don’t agree that morgott beat radahn fair radahn was small and clearly weak and just started learning how to fight” yet in the dlc we literally see that PRIME radahn is nowhere near giant size I feel like something potentially even crazier is the fact that miquella basically confirms the godfrey bloodline is just stronger since he needed the body of a great omen to get radahn strong enough to become his true consort. That whole “oh it was because radahn was infected by rot” is complete bs bc if that was the case he would have never sent malenia to kill him ☠️
@@STIKE214 innit kinda confirmed that the new radahn is just mogh’s body being possessed by radahn’s spirit? That kinda gives more credibility to the insane/ruined body argument/holding the sky argument
@@stephenroy2943 it’s not kinda confirmed it is confirmed but no it doesn’t give any credibility to that theory Miquella planned on putting Radahn soul into Mohgs body the whole time which is supported by the fact that is Miquella sent Malenia to kill Radahn
@@stephenroy2943Yeah spoliers but thats why Radahn and Mogh are required to be killed. Miquella takes Mogh’s body and Radahns soul and merges into one to get his perfect consort. Radahn is the strongest demigod, but Margit still beat him either with his cane, and Malenia (who IS an empyrean so a fanboy could try and say she not included in the group ig) stalemated him without even reaching prime form unlike Radahn was in.
I just realized some shit. The game says Godfrey got exiled once his final worthy opponent was slain right? Well did they not know about the God-Eating serpent or was like nah we don’t actually want 100% completion
I feel like when melania should be higher cuz she literally becomes the goddess of rot. You could say she’s not the literal god but just the vessel for it but that’s kinda what the elden beast is
You forgot that morgott learned everything by himself, the light magic we see, bloodflame magic, and even controlling his powers, while radhan had his mother who was the best at sorceries and his father who is just another person of Marika
Cannonically, Radahn is stronger. Many instances and dialogues in the game infer that... one i recall was that Malenia abandonned smth to match Radahn's might. But I am a huge Malenia fan. The fact she is being fked by scarlet rot and yet could hold her own until she had to resort to the scarlet rot powers. Both characters are super dope and cool. So it doesn't matter who's stronger. It's all about who you love. ❤
You did get some things wrong in your video i'll name them first This is all my opinion based on my current knowledge on the lore but first some of the points you got wrong then my interpretation. First of all Are we just ignoring that rennala was able to stalemate Radagon? The Fire Giant we fight canonicly fought prime godfrey and survived, it was infact Godfrey who gave him the wound on his leg. Also the lore doesn't contradict itself, I don't know where you got that from. The attack on leyendel happened at the beginning of the shattering war before Radahn gained the title of starscrourge and thus before he was considered the strongest of the demigods, so morgot beating a young before prime Radahn makes sense. It was also made pretty clear that malenia before her first bloom was inferior to prime Radahn by her needing to bloom in order to defeat him. But after her 3rd bloom she became the Goddess of rot, straight up named a Goddess by the game itself thus scaling above any statement that would would mention her as a demigod, making her stronger than Prime Radahn only as the Goddess of Rot. Plasidusax was never an "Elden" Lord as there are no statement that specifically say "Elden" Lord, this makes more sense when you consider that the Elden beast is the representative of the Greater Will who brought with him the Elden ring to the lands between. As for Godfrey if we take him at his prime lore wise he should be above anyone but maliketh (debatable), The Elden beast and The tarnished, as was considered a more powerful combatant than even Radagon and has far more feats and statements that place him above Radagon thus above anyone below him like Plasidusax who was a lord not a god, as the ability to kill a god should not mean he wins by default but that he could said god down for good. Likewise Maliketh having the rune of death doesn't make him automatically above Radagon/Marika as mortal weapons could harm a god but never kill one as the rune of death was not in the Elden Ring until you unseal it after killing maliketh and mend the Elden Ring. Plasidusax being able to kill a god regardless of the rune of death being in the elden ring should place him above all the demigods at least bar (debatably) Prime Radahn. With this the ranking should about be this (astel and the ancient dragons besides Plasidusax are hard to scale so I'll use your interpretation): No dlc bosses included and 3rd to 9th are all somewhat interchangeable. 0. All the outergods 1. The Tarnished (at the end) 2. The Elden beast 3. Prime Godfrey 4. Prime Radagon 5. Maliketh 6. Plasidusax 7. Malenia Goddess of rot 8. Prime Radahn (Dabatebly higher) 9. Prime Rennala 9,5. Maybe Astel??? (Highest interpretation) 10. Fire Giant 11. Godwin the golden 12,13,14. The rest of the Ancient Dragons(Gransax, Lansax and Fortisax) 14. Rykard (could be above godwin) 15. Mogh (could be above Godwin) 16. Morgot (could be above godwin, but not mogh) 17. Astel ( lowest interpretation) 18. Everyone else bar maybe Vyke. So now for a explanation to this mess, Rennala stalemated a younger weaker Radagon before he made a name for himself so her being below the top 8 makes sense. As for me putting Radagon and Godfrey above Maliketh and plasidusax, Radagon/Marika is a god and clearly can tell Maliketh to do whatever they want, if Maliketh was stronger than Godfrey why would Marika make him Elden lord when she'd have a more powerful being at her command. So thus Godfrey above Maliketh, as for Godfrey above plasidusax I'll give the best explanation that counts for both plasidusax and maliketh, just because they COULD kill a Radagon doesn't mean they CAN. Huge difference between could and can here. If they did win in a fight they Could kill Radagon but that doesn't mean they're strong enough to certainly do that. And I've already explained why Godfrey is above Radagon. One little thing to note is that we can't confirm if Godfrey has the ability to permakill a god, only that in combat he is above Radagon, so maybe if they fought Godfrey could beat up Radagon but never able to actually kill him for good. But this is a list of who's stronger not who would win in a fight as that changes allot of things. Now for tha last bit of explanation we need to consider that all of the demigods got allot stronger during the shattering war so the timeline of when a statement is made changes all of the rankings. Malenia and Radahn being the strongest Demigods is understandable and proven by every reference to them ingame. All of these statements however as you said are with Godfrey excluded as he has feats and statements that none of them scale to. If you do include him tho Prime Radahn becomes stronger than almost everyone, which sounds a little silly to me. While Malenia could be argued much higher with her becoming a goddes and all. None of the demigods bar Godfrey have ever been stated or implied to be stronger than Radagon or even close to his level so I can't in good faith put her above plasidusax or maliketh no matter how much I'd personally want her to be. Either way she is on that level regardless and above Prime Radahn after becoming the goddes of rot. Now for Morgot, Mogh, Godwin and Rykard. All of them should be below Fire giant and Prime Rennala as none of them remotely scale to Radagon or Godfrey. But they were below Godwin before the shattering, Mogh and Morgot likely got stronger during the war so maybe they surpassed Godwin at a certain point, but we can't be sure. As for Rykard, I have no clue where he scales, he's either right below Malenia and Radahn or right above Mogh and Morgot. It all depends on where Godwin scales which we can only say is above the ancient dragons (plasidusaxnot included). As for astel...... God pls help me. The only thing we have is that he's absolutely below Radahn. Nothing else, so I just put him where he'd be in the low end and the high end. This was just my opinion, but I hope you learned more about Elden ring somehow.😁
I'd say the tarnished would scale above the outer gods. I mean obviously we are the main characters and pretty much can get infinitely stronger as we ARE THE MAIN CHARACTER but I think even lore wise we would prob win. 1. I say this because of miquellas needle and the blue dancer charm. The blue dancer charm says that some blue dancer sealed away the god of rot, prob the outer god/concept. So he would be stronger than it. Although he trains malenia so malenia would also be relative. Now considering she isn't even stronger than Godfrey or maliketh we could prob scale towards the weaker outer gods. 2. We would prob beat all the outer gods as miquellas needle literally gets rid of frenzy who Would 100% be relative to the greater will given that it's never been gotten rid of and is literally everywhere. There are literal lords of frenzied flame. If miquellas needle is able to atleast fight it off to some degree(a DEMIGOD miquella) we kill the god version of her. I would think the endings also ALLOW YOU to choose, meaning none of the outer gods really have much influence over your ideas or neither can they stop it when you kill their lords/vessels (marika,elden beast, midra and shabriri)
@AfnanMujahid-co7nq all that "sealing" does is seal the influence of that outergod over the lands between. We can't even engage with any of the outergods directly, or else beating them would be doable by practically anyone. But if you consider sealing their influence as beating them, then go ahead. In a sense, that is defeating an outergod. Either way, I think that the outergods have to be some higher infinity above the Tarnished that they can't reach due to LITTARELY being able to bring concepts to the landsbetween, and it's not like we can infinitely level up either. But that is what I think. We know very little, so I won't make any conclusions quite yet when it comes to the outergods.
@Blaze57420 I mean really I'm just giving my opinion that we should be relative to them. And really if the game allows us to, maybe in future dlcs or future sequels where we fight them. 1 on 1, then there is no debate, we would win given we ARE the player
Lmao base malenia was a stalemate with prime radahn. Simply transforming into her rot goddess form one shot him. And malenia hasn't bloomed 3 times. She does for the 2nd time against the tarnished. And Godfrey is definitely not above radagon lol.
Something about placudisax and Godfrey: Godfrey is the first elden lord because he served as the first consort to the elden beast/greater will placudisax served as the first lord to a DRAGON god so no placudisax isn’t the first Elden lord
Since Godfrey comes right after Maliketh as a remembrance boss and is the final test before the final fight I think It's implied that he's stronger than Maliketh. I'm fairly sure being Elden Lord gave him strenght beyond his natural talent, he was empowered by the grace of gold in a way we only see Promised Consort Radhan being
I think Malenia should be ranked higher than Radahn given the fact that we see the aftermath of their battle in the game: Radahn is basically reduced to a mindless zombie while Malenia has remained of sound mind and mostly functional body (her injuries are due to scarlet rot and are not caused by Radahn) Also, I think Rykard should be ranked higher than Radahn as well, because of the great serpent. Maybe even higher than Malenia and Godfrey since it is implied that the great serpent has the power to devour gods, so it stands to reason that it would make Rykard more powerful than any demigod.
@unnamedmuffin How can a tie be in someone's favor? It's a fight in which radahn failed to beat malenia, and she failed to put him down. Give me your demigod ranking 🙏
Post DLC: 1-Elden Beast 2-Miquella the Kind + Radahn 3-Prime Marika/Radagon 4-Maliketh the Black Blade 5-Dragonlord Placidusax 6-Bayle the Dread 7-Godfrey/Hoarah Loux 8-Messmer the Impaler 9-Goddess of Rot Malenia 10-Starscourge Radahn
Now Messmer is on the top, please. He's already a super complex character yet as Marika's firstborn, imagine the amount of deep lore that is potentially related to him besides what we already know. We can make theories of him even about the time before Marika ascended to the godhood!
The thing about Astelle: these voidborn are basically entities that fell from the sky with comets. The damage Astelle caused was also the inspiration for Radahn to "capture the stars" ergo meaning so no more voidborn can destroy any cities, in Radahns case mainly Sellia since he learned gravity magic there. He literally held up the giant comet which fell down after he died causing the whole down to Nokstella edit: Radahn also wanted to defeat all these "comets" and their entities himself, which I forgot to add but felt important
Rykard is the perfect example of “Could’ve Should’ve” been the best. If he had not fallen to depraved means, he would’ve been the strongest. Even Lyndell couldn’t stop him, nor his own soldiers and forces, let alone anything else. Of course that COULD’VE been the result. An unbeatable demigod with unparalleled units. Instead, became not even half of that.
13:01 Now here’s the problem where I do agree Malenias placement in base The god of rot would bump her up only to above this mad radhan (That being said the DLC changes that and further pushes that Radhan is indeed far stronger then base Malenia)
Plad, Radagon, Marika is op asf and granseax was name means the Biggest so he just the biggest dragon ohh and Pladaseax is an optional boss sooo he still alive and the Elden Beast is just a part of the Greater Will btw doc update it’s half power basically
I think the coolest thing about Godfrey is the fact that he's just some guy, he doesn't have any extraordinary superpower he was born with, and neither does he loan any power from a god like Malenia, Mogh, Radahn, Morgott etc etc
@@denizseyhan1053 to be honest, no idea, i know he lost two for bayle because you can see them on his back, maybe bayle cut one more off or he lost it during some other battle
Using 'You See Big Girl / T:T' in the background gave me instant PTSD and then following it up with the BOTW dragon theme to chill out to was quite the ride
I will point out one thing with Rykard that I believe could put him higher, it involves the blasphemous claw; basically Ranni rewarded it to Rykard (meaning he likely had involvement with the night of the black knives) in the case that he would have to challenge Maliketh, this means that Ranni likely thought Rykard capable of actually putting up a fight against Maliketh which is of course impressive. Obviously this never actually happened but I believe the fact Rykard was thought at least capable of fighting Maliketh is a testament to his strength, then there is also the fact that Rykard may not even be dead and will just come back over time with the serpent.
Morgott could definitely be stronger than Radahn. After all, he successfully defended Leyndell against two sieges from the other demigods. Also, since omen are persecuted, even if people knew that Morgott was who he was, no one would ever call him stronger than the other demigods. It's the same throughout history - smart, strong and influential people who are discriminated against are almost never acknowledged for their achievements. The story is vague for a reason, so that people can speculate on these things, and I think that Morgott, being one of the oldest and most experienced demigods, could definitely have a case made for him being the strongest.
Damn bummer that Margott got #10, he’s my favorite in the series still even with shadow of the erdtree DLC included. Idk there’s just something badass with that “Last of all Kings” line. Great list tho 👍🏼
For the Regal Ancestor Spirit, my only issue is that if you say that it’s stronger than Godrick because of progression, you also have to say it’s stronger than Radahn. His fight is required to unlock the underground areas, unless you do some serious running around. I think due to it being featless as well like you said, it is the weakest.
At the Morgott section about the Shattering timeline, I believe either George RR said it lasted something like 5000 years OR he wrote the events until the player shows up to cover 5000 years. ALSO its possible that Rahdan was just pushed out of the Capital bc Rahdan didn't want the Capital flattened by his power, remember this guy held back the stars while manic and out of his mind BUT then you have to consider Morgott hating his bloodline which may have limited his potential, where as Mohg loved his bloodline, would ascend his followers to become more powerful. I got a little off topic BUT I PERSONALLY and SUBJECTIVELY look at the paintings from the trailer and intro as being "true but...c'mon man" like Mohg stealing Miquella from the Haligtree but we find this huge person on some hips
I feel like that people put radhan over malenia because they r afraid of the cult like fans attacking them malenia is stronger and we have much more reasons to believe that
there was never going to be a good answer
it wouldnt matter who I picked the comments would tear me up reguardless
bro didn't play the dlc
@abdelrahmanelkady4816 how does dlc change anything. Phase 1 prime radahn is nothing special, and phase 2 is just miquella piloting a meat puppet
@Lufaine01 It's also is Mohg's body fused with Radahn spirit on top of God Miquella buffing him so to say he isn't stronger then his prime is ridiculous.
Malenia takes it high diff
There is literally no reason to believe Malenia is stronger than Radahn.
The only argument to make is that they were equally strong, because malenia could blow herself up ending things in a tie. (Remember she transported herself into a coma that lasted most likely centuries afterwards)
Radahn beat her in their normal fight, being the honorable warrior. It is much more likely that he held back because he didnt want to nuke all the soldiers around him with his gravity magic.
As for Rot-Godess Malenia? Yeah there is an argument to make that her ascended form is stronger than Radahn.
The worst part about Godrick is that he stole the idea of grafting form one of his relatives that was imprisoned in the evergaols.🐱
i don’t think godefroy is godrick. i think godrick was such a coward that instead of marching with his army like malenia, radahn, or morgott, he made a stunt double to go in his place. the stunt double stole the rune for him, got captured and his identity exposed, whilst godrick acquires a great rune without ever leaving the castle. cus i mean, does godrick look like a fella who leaves his castle? even kenny haight thought he was a coward. yet, he has a great rune
@@todd3143 he’s saying godefroy is related to godrick not that they’re the same
He got the idea of grafting from Godfrey, who grafted the beast Serosh to his back. Godrick idolizes Godfrey, as he set up shot in the castle with imagery of him and bears a lion on his great axe. The main difference is Godfrey grafted to reduce his power by lowering his bloodlust in order to be a more proper ruler. Godrick however, tried to graft to gain power, which is the opposite of what Godfrey intended.
How is that the "worst part" about him
You mean the lazy reskin boss with questionable canonicity they threw in an ever-gaol?
We owe mogh an apology it turns out he was the the one getting miquellested
The Miquellester Miquellested Mohg, wich was by all tought of being the Mohglester mohglesting Miquella, when it was really the opposite
@@Ranni854 the miquellester must answer for his underage escapades
Yeah with DLC Miquella just becomes a Miquellester and an obsessive Radahn fanboy
@@Yo-YoGuy it looks like radahn might get miquellested next
@@MONKE-MAN679might? Nah he for sure did
Scariest thing about maliketh is that he defeated the gloam eyed while she had destined death and he did not
Keep in mind the Gloam Eyed Queen was an Empyrean like Malenia, Miquella, and Ranni. Maliketh quite possibly performed top 5 greatest feats in lore.
@@YazzieeeeHe did all of that and destroyed the godskins without being touched.
you don't fuck around with the shadow of a god
@@reign1594 didn't the godskin apostles just join his side
@@astasheadband9162 no
Everything we are fighting is past their prime. So it makes sense when we go to a place where things have been outside of the shattering influence, the event that nerfed them all, we have trouble defeating them. DLC is tougher due to lore.
A few of them like Radahn and Rennala are weakened, but a lot of them are at their strongest by the time we get to them. Morgott and Mohg are pretty much unchanged, apart from gaining Great Runes. The nature of grafting and the God-Devouring Serpent means that Godrick and Rykard only get stronger as time goes on. Malenia might be a worse swordsman, but the rot makes up for it. I also don’t see any reason why Maliketh would be any weaker either seeing as he still has the Rune of Death
"We wanna fight someone in their prime"
Now some of us players are begging Fromsoft to nerf the final dlc boss lmao
edit: He's probably stronger than his prime considering he's blessed by a God
@@coostard5971 I'd argue that Mohg is even stronger since he has an Outer God on his side.
@@florianchabaud8548 well according to SHaDX (the guy who made the vid) heavily implied the moon that renalla's phantom harnesses is also an outer god
@@leechanyeong409We don’t even fight prime Renalla, we fight Rannis illusion of her.
You forgot to cover the most powerful character in the lore. The soldier of God, Rick.
Yoel Romero is the real Elden lord
I'm talkin bout your soul, Rick. Predestination. Calvin.
Soldier of God? Can you imagine Yoel Romero In the lands in betweenn? Him vs Godfrey hehehe
Well no kidding he wasn't brought up. Rick would solo the entire verse.😅
He's too powerful, to even mention HIM is to bring the calamity upon the universe
Mohg is the strongest for beating the allegations
Incest and pedo damn
This video needs an update after the dlc
its funny because it came out after the dlc too lmfao
@@holdupnow3941abysmal timing
@@holdupnow3941lmao
Top 3 still the same though
@@kamamara2567actually due to the Dlc
Top 1 is Marika
The elden beast is A separate entity from the elden ring
It lives in the elden ring
And Can manage it like how it imprisoned Marika
But it is not a God in the Normal sense
It a vassal of a god
Marika is A legit god
That's why we can kill it and The elden ring still exist we can use it's power and Have no need for the Beast
There’s also the fact that not only Maliketh’s Power wasn’t complete, he was physically weakened since he could never be sated and was always starving. Maliketh is pinnacle.
He is a top 5 strongest charecter in the lore due to the dlc
@@Fusion237 Maliketh is still stronger than the DLC bosses if we include lore. Power wise without equal scaling probably not so much.
@@DecimaarZmost definitely only being behind Elden beast and especially when destined death is kill on contact existence erasure on uni-multi versal level potency
@@DecimaarZ I beg to differ Miquella’s feat are to much for Maliketh to be above him. Bayle vs Maliketh is debatable and so is Messmer vs Maliketh aswell
@@zm6241 first of all Miquella is way to strong for Maliketh to handle and yes Maliketh attack potency is crazy
Radhn being known as the mightiest of the demigods isn’t just found in item descriptions. Jerren and Miquella himself thought of him as the strongest, so much so that Miquella desired for him to become his consort because he believed Radahn’s strength and kindness was above that of anyone else, even his twin sister
Cap, he was scared shitless of Maliketh, just like the rest of them. Wouldn’t be the case if he was what you claim he was lol
Prime Maliketh touches you and you die. Use your brain. @@jamesrevere2992
@@jamesrevere2992 Maliketh isn’t a demigod and therefore doesn’t count
Omfg stop spoiling the mf dlc this ain’t a dlc video bro fr fuck I’ve barely started it
@@kinguchiha6212 don’t like it? Don’t click. Simple as that, so stop being a lil wuss and complaining
The godfrey transition was so tough
Little did we know radahn was the main character frfr all along lmao
Him and Godwyn always seemed like they were the true champions of the Lands Between in Lore they just got killed or changed before they could hit full potential
@@williebrown2132We wouldn’t have a game pretty much if things went there way because otherwise the age of fracture would have never happened
Godfrey is the mc
@@terminator6431 ahh hella nah, bro got cucked. That’s no MC
@@williebrown2132Godwyn is the greatest to do it.
Radahn and malenia fought to a draw implying they’re equal in strength. When the player fights malenia, she’s in second bloom which is her strongest.
As for dlc, radahn becomes a complicated topic since it is and isn’t him.
The draw was a technicality based on neither dieing in reality Radahn won the fight by a large margin. Radahn was very much winning pushing Malenia to bloom for the first time and Radahn tank that scarlet rot nuke point blank and then continued to fight Malenia and Radahn eventually completely incapacitated Malenia and she was dragged off the battle field as her entire army had to slow down Radahn who was still very much able to fight
Cant discount the fact that Rahdan was holding back the stars, holding the world in stasis while he fought malenia.
@@hype5471and malenia was holding back the scarlet rot which couldve given jer advantage if she used it from the beginning, but she didn't
@@stefanenderman338how do you know she was actively holding back the rot?
Its said her brother gave her a needle that halts it. so wheres the effort?
@@ManifoldThugfrom what i know it doesnt halt it but just slows it down. So she would still have to hold it back herself aswell
I'd like to remind everyone that the Rot in Malenia isn't just a disease. It is said to be one of the most powerful outer-god-like beings in the known universe. She is an unparalleled swordstress, but that God in her flesh means that her power will outlast her life, and every other demigod doomed to the cycle that rot represents.
Outer gods arenr true gods theyre kami. The translation in words and culture is what confuses yall so much. Kamis are more like a natural disaster influencing life. You cant find any life that was truly made by the outer gods they only corrupt the grester will is the one true god that can make life.
With that being said rot goddess malenia when beat says demigod felled it doesnt say God felled fromsoft wouldnt make that kind of mistake. She was never a true god
@@rushpatriot2866so your saying they contradict themselves? first they name her a goddess in her official title during 2nd phase then says shes a demigod when slayed. I choose to believe she ascended to godhood as to my knowledge every other boss title accurately represents them.
@@rushpatriot2866 Kami literally means god and isn't as black/white as you're implying. A kami being referred to as part of nature simply means they can display good and bad traits, similar to Roman/Greek gods. Also, the Greater Will isn't an outright god, it didn't even originate in the Lands Between, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
@@grimmsby3011 kami and God have the same word but kami isn't used in the same way it's different culture. It's hard to understand lil bro keep with the program
Malenia and Radahn fought to a stalemate while she was supressing all of her Rot, like she is probably one of the few characters we actually see in her true Prime and having a power far above the one she held in the past once she becomes the Goddess of Rot.
So Malenia and Radahn were pretty equal before the Rot Ascension so I hardly think he would be able to beat her now in strength.
yeah, one bloom from her made him braindead. he’d lose horribly if he fought rot goddess Malenia😭
She got knocked out by her ace attack trying to kill radahn because she couldnt take him down without it and still failed while Radahn was holding bsck the stats. If she wasnt carried away radahn wouldve killed her
@@rushpatriot2866 It is nowhere stated that whatever magic Radahn uses to hold back the stars actually makes him any weaker than he is that is nothing but Speculation, would you placing a dam around water make you any weaker? Actively stopping the water yourself with your own strength sure but we do not know which it is and bringing that up is just pointless.
"The Battle of Aeonia
Radahn and Malenia locked in stalemate
Then, the scarlet rot blooms"
And Radahn could not kill her either your point? They were locked in a stalemate with the game being pretty clear about that only then did she uses the Bloom. It was pretty much a stalemate ender that failed with no victore coming out and Radahn is only alive where he is because his Great Rune is literally burning up to save him from the rot.
@@juliusarcher7241 It's called logic and reasoning. Show me a magic ability that sustains itself without using fp. Wait you can't...this is why y'all are wrong so much you lack the ability to use critical thinking skills. I have evidence in the form of elden ring while you don't have sh!t. That's why y'all smooth brains will always hold this L
@@rushpatriot2866 Maybe actually listen to what I said?
We have ZERO knowledge of what Radahn does to stop the stars and I literally gave you a example of a dam holding back water.
We. Do. Not. Know.
Use Arguments you can actually back up and not speculation when it comes to LITERAL MAGIC and NPC magic and Player magic are 2 different things. Ranni made unbreakable wards, made a clone Illusion Rannela and many other passive and active effects yet we are not gonna argue she is now sooo much weaker because she did these things.
Radahn when he met morgot was himself smaller than morgot, so this is clearly a younger radahn, most likely he just began learning gravity magic and had no mastery over it since Leonard could still carry him at such size albeit with some difficulty.
By contrast, Morgott was clearly holding back. He didn't even use his sword.
@@pedrohenriquecerqueira3883 that wasn’t even morgot, it’s margit
@@Marco-qy6bm Yes, and that is absolutely irrelevant. It's further proof that he held back.
@@pedrohenriquecerqueira3883maybe it was just some training thing? Ik it sounds unlikely cos Morgott is omen but radahn is pretty accepting I would day
Radahn mastered gravity magic prior to the shattering. Radahn got slapped silly by a homeless man with a cane stop making excuses
Great list but I disagree on a few things.
1 I would put the Lich dragon beneath the omen twins due to being insane and fighting a younger version of a character with not feats.
2, I would put morgott over mogh due to having both the erdtree’s power and some blood magic of his own infused on his sword
3, I would put prime Godfrey and maliketh at the top due to being known as the strongest and being sought out by marika to fight battles she could not. (I would put a non-rune of death Maliketh below Godfrey but if he had it I would favor him)
I agree with the Godfrey/Maliketh statement. Love how Maliketh scales above Demi god scaling would love to see Maliketh vs Rahdan. Would be a match up for the century
Do y'all think Messmer feared Maliketh or nah
@@aidiot778 all seriousness I don’t think messmer feared Maliketh but 100% if they dueled messmer would get humbled.
@@Shabbahhh117I think bayle would mop maliketh what do you think about that?
@@Fusion237 I mean lore wise he is a dragon so the fight would be pretty cool to see. I think Maliketh would have high diff in with anything flying.
Rick soldier of God
The goat
Soldier of God, Rick
i think astel needs to be above renalla. renalla draws her power from glintstone (the stars) and astel is a being born from it (and made up almost entirely of glintstone)
@nr_bjj wouldnt that mean renalla might be able to control him
Random face reveal for the win. Love some Elden ring lore.
Many people knew of Morgott as the king of Lendeyll, like Gideon. What none of them knew, including Gideon was Morgott's true identity as an omen. That's part of the reason he took on the mantle of Margit the Fell. So he could protect Lendeyll and the Erdtree without anyone ever finding out that their king was an Omen. Something that if widely known, would bring chaos to the city and its residents would most likely try to overthrow and kill him.
Lore about godrick planning becoming elden lord.
Steps:
1.
-Steal run from rennala
-Steal run from morgott
-Steal run from radhan
-Steal run from melania
-Steal run from mogh
-Steal run from rykard
-Steal run from himself
-Steal DD from malekith
2. Approach erdttre when morgott is slepping and burn it with a torch.
3. Eat too many shabririi grapes and become lord of frenzied grafting.
4. - Melania licking godricks feets
-Morgott waching his precious tree burning
-Radhan hiding in his castle afraid of Godrick
-Rykard and Godrick TOOGETHA becomes friends.
-Charmed mogh still moghlesting miquella body
-Rennala is still crying afther radagon
-Godfrey acknowledging Godrick and gives him hug.
-Gostoc becomes Godrick promissed consort
It is in the lore.
After the DLC came out Miquella is 100% the strongest without a doubt
Yea miquella and the Elden beast and bayle
@@Fusion237 CURSE YOU BAYLE!!!🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
YOU SHALL TORMENT ME, NO LONGER
@@Pablo_the_raccoonbros voice actor had bills to pay
Maliketh is the strongest being lore wise. Scales above outer gods.
Bayle is so crazy he ripped off 3 of pasidusax heads and continues to where 2 of them 💀
Maybe he’s a simp, honestly I understand him
Placi still won that fight tho, bayle fled and was way more disabled
@@sarwatarannya8786 it says it ended in a draw. they both hurt each other to the point they just stopped fighting
@@sarwatarannya8786more disabled? bayle is still brutal and kicking. when we fight placi he resembles fckin joe biden
Yeah, but he also lost ALOT in that fight. His wings got shredded, he lost both arms, and he lost one of his legs too. Also, I think taking off some of those heads was luck because Pasidusax's heads can be seen biting into Bayle. So Bayle likely took off straight up in the air while Pasidusax's necks got stuck on his back which resulted in them being ripped off. However, in the end Pasidusax is the one that won that battle because Bayle fled.
also a little cool thing, but thanks to the dlc i guess, we can guess that rennala and ranni’s outer god, the moon, is named celes
Just a quick reminder that rykard was actually a ranni's failsafe destined to kill maliketh incase something went wrong
In my opinion Malenia Goddess of Rot should be ranked differently from Malenia Blade of Miquella: the prior reached some form of godhood by herself for the god of Rot. Just a glimpse of her power was enough to send Rahdan into madness and cover Eonia with rot and she hadn’t even reached godhood yet
Yeah I was gonna comment about how her Goddess form should probably be at least top 3 imo
It was not a glimpse, she nuked entire Caelid and almost nuked herself while Radhan went into madness. She was in coma and was carried into haligtree only to be awaken at our arrival, lmao. People are overestimating Malenias power.
She has never known defeat, and in rot goddess form she folds Radahn, Maliketh and maybe even Marika
@@bartoszboboryko4684dude just read item and remembrance descriptions, it was a glimpse of rot god's power, she had to bloom 3 times to become a true goddess of rot, you are ignorant of your own ignorance
@@jagernkk9875 What did i said that was ignorance ?? She had to bloom 3 times, but it's never stated that she would survive each bloom etc.. After fight with Radahn she's barely alive and it's stated in the game, same as her awakening near missing Miquella. DLC also brought us information that the scarlet rot of Malenia cames from sealed off now outer god.
Malenia and radahn deserve better. Her scarlet aeonia nuke is what made the entirety of caelid a hellhole and radahn was able to survive that, only dying to the scarlet rot after effects and they fought each other to a standstill.
From one piece to elden ring. This should be interesting
Alternate title: Bosses ranked by aura
This list does not include dlc so do you think they just are not up to scale or was this made before?
this was made before
Funny thing, if we take a lot of hypothetical situations and ideas, Cleanrot Knight Finlay would be about equally as powerful, if not more then, some of the characters rated below Malenia. Malenia’s army traveled through the likes of Lyndell and Godrick’s castle. They were likely met with opposition from Godrick’s forces, which is where the boot-licking Godrick happened. Finlay carried Malenia all the way back to the Haligtree, through Godrick’s castle once more where she was likely met with opposition since Malenia was unconscious. Granted it very unclear, but I like the idea of Finlay bullying Godrick to protect Malenia
The Malenia being stronger then Radahn is so stupid argument. Like didn't that same Malenia nuke an entire nation because she couldn't win against Radahn? And even then the battle still only ended in a stalemate. (As said in the video, Radahn could've been retrained, but he didn't mention much about 'that' cutscene, where Radahn managed to detach Malenia's prosthetic arm, seemingly without much effort as he, what I assume, calmly waited for her to put it back on. Possibly implying that it didn't take much effort at all)
you wrote a whole ass fan fiction with that comment
Been waiting for a lore scale based video. Good one at that earned my sub
Radahn has got to be the strongest character in all of Elden Ring after the Tarnished ofc especially after the DLC.
I mean, Maliketh is there. But yeah, Radahn is up there. Probably 2nd place.
I heard that Radahn in the DLC was weaker than in the base game, because he wasn’t fully himself (lore wise ofc, not game difficulty)
@@BENBEN-gb4wi just in the first phase. In the first phase, his body was acting autonomously since he didn't have a soul then.
In the second phase, his soul inhabited his body, and he reached a new peak beyond his living days.
Pretty sure people like Radagon, Godfrey, Malekith and the Elden beast would kick his ass
@@debater452 Elden Beast isn't really a fighter tbh. I'd believe Radahn could take him.
He could probably take Godfrey since Radahn is way bigger, has Gravity magic, and is an aspiring lord of the battlefield.
Radagon is a full fledged god. He will body Radahn.
And Maliketh is death incarnate. A single would and it'll be done.
Glad to see you know the lore and put Maliketh at 2nd. Way too many cringe Malenia simps and Radahn dudebros who don’t realize Maliketh is HIM, his feats are insane and it’s literally stated that every demigod was terrified of him.
what i want to know is why everyone disappear into mist when we die.
11:25 is the coolest shot of an elden ring boss I've ever seen
Fell like Rykard is probably more powerfull than Radahn and Melenia while fused with the serpant
If that was the case he wouldve went to devour the gods like he said he would do but he didnt so obviously he isnt
@@rushpatriot2866 Meaby because he is an inmobile and probably can't get to them.
He’s gathering strong bodies to feast on and steal their power and he can reincarnate when defeated if someone else eats his corpses so I’m assuming given time he could become strong enough to beat them but isn’t currently otherwise he’d go eat them now
By lore the top 5 are
Marika (She is a legit God)
Maliketh (the grim reaper)
Malenia (an outer god)
Placidusax (elden lord of dragons)
Gloam eyed Queen( Grim reaper of The Past specifically in the Realm of shadow lands)
Placidusax is also a god, but greatly implied to be the god of time so I’d put him at number one.
@@Yousifzzz No he isn't, he was the Elden Lord before the current order dethroned the dragon's order
this is a amazing video btw, ima sub
Glad to hear Morgott getting the recognition he deserves
Oh yeah and I think morgott isn’t stronger than Radhan but he was just able to land a blow forcing radhan to fall back and successfully defending the erdtree
@@BliztDogeI think that radahn although stronger than morgott is not as much of a tactician as morgott thus radahn lost against morgott
@@captainjack4385 I could see that
After the dlc I would rank Radahn higher in lore purposes, but I don’t see how it could be before. Radahn had all these badass moments in lore (learning gravity magic, holding back the stars, conquering warlord, etc.) which paints a vivid image of who he was to the player.
Sounds cool asf until you realize he got hyped up simply to hype up the strongest boss in the base game itself. He’s a bigger than life icon to fanboys now and still couldn’t beat a blind swordsman with literally no legs and a single arm, who he never even managed to force her into her strongest form.
You cant be this goofy. Melania HAD to bloom to STALEMATE with Radahn. She only went Goddess of Rot because she bloomed twice. A third time would literally kill her and give herself to the Goddess of Rot fully. Once she goes Goddess of Rot, she's not herself fully. That's the point of blooming.
People are so stupid, Godfrey was the first ELDEN LORD and placidusax was the first DRAGONLORD
Its literally stated that Placidusax was ELDEN LORD before Queen Marika's rule
@@thesusman1776 well he’s consider to be dragonlord still to the dragons but currently since we have different words for different meanings he is called Elden lord of the dragons, so he is still called Dragon Lord
@@thesusman1776 if that makes ense
Godfrey is the 1st elden lord of the Golden Age
Placi is an elden lord of the Dragon Age
@@brillywinsen6526 right because that’s what he is called currently
Video is fire af. Might be controversial, but in my honest opinion I think Mohg scales past both Rykard and Fortissax. A lot of the stuff I say from hereon out will have a lot of speculation and personal analysis of game mechanics, so feel free to comment and correct / dispute me (as long as you're civil about it.)
We don't get much combat feats of Mohg, but lore-wise we know that at the very least, he has had close communion with an Outer God (the Formless Mother.) While this connection itself does not say much, I believe that the reason Mohg would scale higher is the specific effect the Formless Mother is tied to: bleed.
An astounding 14 (including Mohg himself) out of 15 bosses on this list can bleed, with various resistance levels, with the only exception being the Elden Beast. From a gameplay perspective, bleed is a very strong status (especially in PvE) effect that deals % damage + 100-200 damage depending on the weapon. However, I'm going to use a slightly more realistic approach and (based off of bleed's official name "Hemorrhage:) assume that skills/effects that cause the Hemorrhage status effect cause multiple mid-to-large scale external hemorrhages, leading to blood loss. Going with this slightly more realistic approach, I believe Mohg's wide access to bleed becomes a very strong equalizer in fights, being able to face enemies that may be conventionally stronger than him by abusing Bloodflame to cause such hemorrhages. Not only that, but gameplay-wise, Mohg himself has a passive Lord of Blood's Exultation effect that boosts the damage he deals whenever anything in the vicinity bleeds. Not to mention that if we once again look at gameplay, Mohg has access to limited healing through his Bloodboon Ritual, which could put him back into a fight that he was losing.
Another thing that I think makes him much stronger than originally anticipated is that, unlike Morgott, Mohg accepts his Omen heritage. While we don't really get a good peak at Mohg's physique under his robes, he wields a massive trident which is implied to be quite a heavy weapon (through his animations when swinging it), but he swings it with relative ease. We can assume this is thanks to the brute strength that Omens are known for (see Omen Cleaver description), and due to his stature being quite a bit larger than the average Omen in the game (with the general assumption that the Tarnished is about 5'7", Radagon/Marika place around the 8-9ft mark, I'd generally estimate and say Mohg is roughly 11-12ft tall), we can also assume that he is much stronger physically as well. While not reflected very well within the game, I also think that Mohg would have pretty solid mobility owning to his wings. While he moves slow on foot, within the game it's shown that he actually has pretty good control of his wings and is quite fast with them as well. I'd say while definitely not as strong as a dragon's wings, he'd probably be pretty equal with them aerial mobility wise.
What I think Mohg's serverly lacks in would be is actual combat experience. While his twin brother, Morgott, has actual fight experience with the lore, we aren't really given a reason to believe Mohg has actually ever directly fought someone besides the Tarnished. My first reason being that while everyone else was occupied with fighting each other, Mohg essentially stole away Miquella's egg and hid away within his palace. Gameplay-wise, it is painfully obvious that nobody taught him how to wield a pointy weapon. He purely relies on his brute strength and generally uses his trident much more akin to a club, and when he does choose to use it as an actual thrusting weapon, generally does not use its range to his advantage and thrusts with just the head of the weapon going a little farther in front of his body.
As for pitting him up against Malenia or Radahn, I think Radahn easily clears Mohg simply because of his lack of fighting experience. Radahn is both an honorable warrior and a warmonger, and has numerous years of battle to back it up. Radahn, who is also significantly larger than Mohg would most likey easily overpower him even in a show of brute strength. Even if Mohg was on-par strength-wise with Radahn and managed to make him bleed, Radahn was holding a literal sky of stars up. He could probably decide to just use one like an ICBM and annihilate Mohg (assuming it was a straight-up 1v1; I doubt Radahn would risk his soldiers like that if it was a war, otherwise he probably could've done something similar to Malenia before she nuked Caelid.) Even with his Bloodbloon Ritual (or Nihil, whatever name fits your fancy), I believe Radahn easily clears Mohg, as he is simply shown to be stronger and has much better feats.
Malenia, I think, is a much closer battle than people think. Pre-Rot Goddess Malenia, gameplay-wise, is very weak to any weapon that can either send her flying or knock her down. Her combat experience is one that relies much more on swift combat (hence the high dex requirement for her weapon,) and we've already seen that she actually isn't very physically strong (the short cutscene fight between her and Radahn shows that Radahn no-diffs their epic sword clash and basically shatters her katana.) I think Mohg's brutish swings would actually be quite effective against her considering that with the assumptions from earlier, Mohg is exceptionally strong. Plus, Mohg shares the one unique strength Malenia has, which is that connection to an Outer God. Mohg is also surprisingly mobile with his wings, so once again, that surprise mobility paired with his brutish strength put Malenia at a disadvantage, and that's not even taking into account his other abilities, such as Bloodboon and Bloodflame Claws. Against Rot Goddess Malenia, I think that while it still might be close, Malenia would win through Scarlet Rot, similarly to how she stalemated Radahn.
tl;dr: I think that ultimately, it goes (from weakest > strongest): Rykard < Fortissax < Pre-Rot Goddess Malenia < Mohg
I want to point out that Morgott beat Radahn while he was in his prime
How, radahn is literally small enough to be carried by leonard in that scene, meaning he doesn't even have gravity magic
Debatable since the Young Lion set states that this was before he held back the stars which can be interpreted in many different ways. He could've tried throwing hands when he just became general and lost.
So you're speaking about that one picture of siege of the Royal Capital from the opening trailer, aren't you? Well, Morgott bested Rykard, perhaps, and a lot of stuff was given to the point, that it wasn't our precious General Radahn 😊☺🤗
@@user-eo1oc1kc4x That is definitely Radahn if you've seen the Final Boss
@@pillarmenn1936 are you sure?)
I LOVED how at the end basiclly he showed how all the runes we got make up the elden ring image i just realised that and it just made the lore better for me
dawg morgott literally never lost a fight
Neither did Malenia.
He never fought anyone strong besides radahn
@@reign1594 neither he had too fight anyone with unsheathed sword and Crucible powers
@reign1594 “the fell omen stacked high the bodies of hero’s.”
He massacred large portions of army’s without his blood flame or crucible powers or his sword. And he, along with the army of lyndell (which I’ll admit is a big crutch) was able to stave off every demigod who attacked it which is fairly impressive. Also lorewise if he did have other notable feats then he would try his best to make sure nobody knows it was him because he was ashamed of his omen blood.
@@eddisonwilde4699 Did he not have access to crucible knights?
“Even Gideon knew who he is”… yes… Yes, he did… Gideon… “the All-Knowing”
melenia should easily be placed above radhan. Considering this that she bloomed once more after fighting tarnished. She was a handicapped and still destroyed radahan mental and ended the war. She fought Prime Radahan. In what sense will she be below radahan.
Game creators explicitly state they tied. They were equal, but now that she ascended to godhood, they are not
@@unioncare2055 Then it kinda stops being Malenia vs. Radhan at that point and more like Goddess of Rot vs. Radhan since it would basically be using Malenia as a puppet. Also, Malenia having to resort to a suicidal nuke during the fight kind of implies that she knew she wasn't strong enough to beat him on her own.
@@grimmsby3011 that's Malenia, she ascended to godhood after blooming, fair and square.
The reason is bcuz otherwise, radahn fanboys would cry about how their fav character is below malenia
I subbed because your cut scenes are hilarious
Putting Morgott so low with knowing that he won against Prime Radahn after the shattering in his margit version and without is sword fascinates me. Even insaner when you realize that Radahn was a godfrey fanboy but in all that time he never achieved to took over the capital bc of Morgott. There is a reason why Morgott is the main antagonist of the first half of the game
Crazy how this guy is talking about ranking them based off of legit lore yet just completely says “no I don’t agree that morgott beat radahn fair radahn was small and clearly weak and just started learning how to fight” yet in the dlc we literally see that PRIME radahn is nowhere near giant size I feel like something potentially even crazier is the fact that miquella basically confirms the godfrey bloodline is just stronger since he needed the body of a great omen to get radahn strong enough to become his true consort. That whole “oh it was because radahn was infected by rot” is complete bs bc if that was the case he would have never sent malenia to kill him ☠️
@@STIKE214 innit kinda confirmed that the new radahn is just mogh’s body being possessed by radahn’s spirit?
That kinda gives more credibility to the insane/ruined body argument/holding the sky argument
@@stephenroy2943 it’s not kinda confirmed it is confirmed but no it doesn’t give any credibility to that theory Miquella planned on putting Radahn soul into Mohgs body the whole time which is supported by the fact that is Miquella sent Malenia to kill Radahn
@@STIKE214 so radahn = mohg?
@@stephenroy2943Yeah spoliers but thats why Radahn and Mogh are required to be killed. Miquella takes Mogh’s body and Radahns soul and merges into one to get his perfect consort. Radahn is the strongest demigod, but Margit still beat him either with his cane, and Malenia (who IS an empyrean so a fanboy could try and say she not included in the group ig) stalemated him without even reaching prime form unlike Radahn was in.
I just realized some shit. The game says Godfrey got exiled once his final worthy opponent was slain right? Well did they not know about the God-Eating serpent or was like nah we don’t actually want 100% completion
I feel like when melania should be higher cuz she literally becomes the goddess of rot. You could say she’s not the literal god but just the vessel for it but that’s kinda what the elden beast is
You forgot that morgott learned everything by himself, the light magic we see, bloodflame magic, and even controlling his powers, while radhan had his mother who was the best at sorceries and his father who is just another person of Marika
Peak face reveal
Cannonically, Radahn is stronger. Many instances and dialogues in the game infer that... one i recall was that Malenia abandonned smth to match Radahn's might. But I am a huge Malenia fan. The fact she is being fked by scarlet rot and yet could hold her own until she had to resort to the scarlet rot powers. Both characters are super dope and cool. So it doesn't matter who's stronger. It's all about who you love. ❤
Peak video ❤❤
Two things.
Godrick can loose to a flower.
The second thing is, I defeated Radahan before Godrick during my first play-through of Elden Ring.
You did get some things wrong in your video i'll name them first
This is all my opinion based on my current knowledge on the lore but first some of the points you got wrong then my interpretation.
First of all Are we just ignoring that rennala was able to stalemate Radagon? The Fire Giant we fight canonicly fought prime godfrey and survived, it was infact Godfrey who gave him the wound on his leg. Also the lore doesn't contradict itself, I don't know where you got that from. The attack on leyendel happened at the beginning of the shattering war before Radahn gained the title of starscrourge and thus before he was considered the strongest of the demigods, so morgot beating a young before prime Radahn makes sense. It was also made pretty clear that malenia before her first bloom was inferior to prime Radahn by her needing to bloom in order to defeat him. But after her 3rd bloom she became the Goddess of rot, straight up named a Goddess by the game itself thus scaling above any statement that would would mention her as a demigod, making her stronger than Prime Radahn only as the Goddess of Rot. Plasidusax was never an "Elden" Lord as there are no statement that specifically say "Elden" Lord, this makes more sense when you consider that the Elden beast is the representative of the Greater Will who brought with him the Elden ring to the lands between. As for Godfrey if we take him at his prime lore wise he should be above anyone but maliketh (debatable), The Elden beast and The tarnished, as was considered a more powerful combatant than even Radagon and has far more feats and statements that place him above Radagon thus above anyone below him like Plasidusax who was a lord not a god, as the ability to kill a god should not mean he wins by default but that he could said god down for good. Likewise Maliketh having the rune of death doesn't make him automatically above Radagon/Marika as mortal weapons could harm a god but never kill one as the rune of death was not in the Elden Ring until you unseal it after killing maliketh and mend the Elden Ring. Plasidusax being able to kill a god regardless of the rune of death being in the elden ring should place him above all the demigods at least bar (debatably) Prime Radahn.
With this the ranking should about be this (astel and the ancient dragons besides Plasidusax are hard to scale so I'll use your interpretation):
No dlc bosses included and 3rd to 9th are all somewhat interchangeable.
0. All the outergods
1. The Tarnished (at the end)
2. The Elden beast
3. Prime Godfrey
4. Prime Radagon
5. Maliketh
6. Plasidusax
7. Malenia Goddess of rot
8. Prime Radahn (Dabatebly higher)
9. Prime Rennala
9,5. Maybe Astel??? (Highest interpretation)
10. Fire Giant
11. Godwin the golden
12,13,14. The rest of the Ancient Dragons(Gransax, Lansax and Fortisax)
14. Rykard (could be above godwin)
15. Mogh (could be above Godwin)
16. Morgot (could be above godwin, but not mogh)
17. Astel ( lowest interpretation)
18. Everyone else bar maybe Vyke.
So now for a explanation to this mess, Rennala stalemated a younger weaker Radagon before he made a name for himself so her being below the top 8 makes sense. As for me putting Radagon and Godfrey above Maliketh and plasidusax, Radagon/Marika is a god and clearly can tell Maliketh to do whatever they want, if Maliketh was stronger than Godfrey why would Marika make him Elden lord when she'd have a more powerful being at her command. So thus Godfrey above Maliketh, as for Godfrey above plasidusax I'll give the best explanation that counts for both plasidusax and maliketh, just because they COULD kill a Radagon doesn't mean they CAN. Huge difference between could and can here. If they did win in a fight they Could kill Radagon but that doesn't mean they're strong enough to certainly do that. And I've already explained why Godfrey is above Radagon. One little thing to note is that we can't confirm if Godfrey has the ability to permakill a god, only that in combat he is above Radagon, so maybe if they fought Godfrey could beat up Radagon but never able to actually kill him for good. But this is a list of who's stronger not who would win in a fight as that changes allot of things.
Now for tha last bit of explanation we need to consider that all of the demigods got allot stronger during the shattering war so the timeline of when a statement is made changes all of the rankings. Malenia and Radahn being the strongest Demigods is understandable and proven by every reference to them ingame. All of these statements however as you said are with Godfrey excluded as he has feats and statements that none of them scale to. If you do include him tho Prime Radahn becomes stronger than almost everyone, which sounds a little silly to me. While Malenia could be argued much higher with her becoming a goddes and all. None of the demigods bar Godfrey have ever been stated or implied to be stronger than Radagon or even close to his level so I can't in good faith put her above plasidusax or maliketh no matter how much I'd personally want her to be. Either way she is on that level regardless and above Prime Radahn after becoming the goddes of rot. Now for Morgot, Mogh, Godwin and Rykard. All of them should be below Fire giant and Prime Rennala as none of them remotely scale to Radagon or Godfrey. But they were below Godwin before the shattering, Mogh and Morgot likely got stronger during the war so maybe they surpassed Godwin at a certain point, but we can't be sure. As for Rykard, I have no clue where he scales, he's either right below Malenia and Radahn or right above Mogh and Morgot. It all depends on where Godwin scales which we can only say is above the ancient dragons (plasidusaxnot included).
As for astel...... God pls help me. The only thing we have is that he's absolutely below Radahn. Nothing else, so I just put him where he'd be in the low end and the high end.
This was just my opinion, but I hope you learned more about Elden ring somehow.😁
I'd say the tarnished would scale above the outer gods. I mean obviously we are the main characters and pretty much can get infinitely stronger as we ARE THE MAIN CHARACTER but I think even lore wise we would prob win.
1. I say this because of miquellas needle and the blue dancer charm. The blue dancer charm says that some blue dancer sealed away the god of rot, prob the outer god/concept. So he would be stronger than it. Although he trains malenia so malenia would also be relative. Now considering she isn't even stronger than Godfrey or maliketh we could prob scale towards the weaker outer gods.
2. We would prob beat all the outer gods as miquellas needle literally gets rid of frenzy who Would 100% be relative to the greater will given that it's never been gotten rid of and is literally everywhere. There are literal lords of frenzied flame. If miquellas needle is able to atleast fight it off to some degree(a DEMIGOD miquella) we kill the god version of her. I would think the endings also ALLOW YOU to choose, meaning none of the outer gods really have much influence over your ideas or neither can they stop it when you kill their lords/vessels (marika,elden beast, midra and shabriri)
You cooked icl
@AfnanMujahid-co7nq all that "sealing" does is seal the influence of that outergod over the lands between. We can't even engage with any of the outergods directly, or else beating them would be doable by practically anyone. But if you consider sealing their influence as beating them, then go ahead. In a sense, that is defeating an outergod.
Either way, I think that the outergods have to be some higher infinity above the Tarnished that they can't reach due to LITTARELY being able to bring concepts to the landsbetween, and it's not like we can infinitely level up either. But that is what I think. We know very little, so I won't make any conclusions quite yet when it comes to the outergods.
@Blaze57420 I mean really I'm just giving my opinion that we should be relative to them. And really if the game allows us to, maybe in future dlcs or future sequels where we fight them. 1 on 1, then there is no debate, we would win given we ARE the player
Lmao base malenia was a stalemate with prime radahn. Simply transforming into her rot goddess form one shot him. And malenia hasn't bloomed 3 times. She does for the 2nd time against the tarnished. And Godfrey is definitely not above radagon lol.
Something about placudisax and Godfrey: Godfrey is the first elden lord because he served as the first consort to the elden beast/greater will placudisax served as the first lord to a DRAGON god so no placudisax isn’t the first Elden lord
Placidusax's remembrance literally calls him an Elden Lord of the age before the Erdtree, smooth brain
wouldnt mimic tear be number 1?
One ichigo already vaporizes the entirety of the lands between don’t make it worse
Who tf is talking about ichigo?@@planetmars8627
@@planetmars8627Ichigo is fucking trash. Mountain level fodder lmao Godrick negs
The Attack on Titan Music in the Background really caught me off guard 😂
1:23 to be fair I’d run from Radahn to💀
17:54 i think Godfrey could actually kill a God, as he was getting towards Radagon without hesitation, probably knowing he would have won.
Where would you put Ranni ans Messmer?
Ranni below Rennalla
Messmer Idk
@@GLOCKTOBER messmer must be interesting to place
Yet my purpose standeth unchanged... CMONNN TOP 5 @@GLOCKTOBER
Since Godfrey comes right after Maliketh as a remembrance boss and is the final test before the final fight I think It's implied that he's stronger than Maliketh. I'm fairly sure being Elden Lord gave him strenght beyond his natural talent, he was empowered by the grace of gold in a way we only see Promised Consort Radhan being
Is there a elden ring manga ????
Yes but its a gag series that only covers up to Godricks defeat :(
First few pages are cool though
@@GLOCKTOBERradahn is in the manga?
@@reign1594 for like two pages yes
17:54 CURSE YOU BAYLE
That edit at 15:46 was amazing btw
I think Malenia should be ranked higher than Radahn given the fact that we see the aftermath of their battle in the game: Radahn is basically reduced to a mindless zombie while Malenia has remained of sound mind and mostly functional body (her injuries are due to scarlet rot and are not caused by Radahn)
Also, I think Rykard should be ranked higher than Radahn as well, because of the great serpent. Maybe even higher than Malenia and Godfrey since it is implied that the great serpent has the power to devour gods, so it stands to reason that it would make Rykard more powerful than any demigod.
Bro hates radahn for no reason
@@ViciousKell Bro loves Radahn for no reason
She also failed to accomplish her goal, and radahn didn't.(No, radahn isn't my favorite character). It was a tie at best.
@@reign1594 A tie in Malenia's favor
@unnamedmuffin How can a tie be in someone's favor? It's a fight in which radahn failed to beat malenia, and she failed to put him down. Give me your demigod ranking 🙏
Post DLC:
1-Elden Beast
2-Miquella the Kind + Radahn
3-Prime Marika/Radagon
4-Maliketh the Black Blade
5-Dragonlord Placidusax
6-Bayle the Dread
7-Godfrey/Hoarah Loux
8-Messmer the Impaler
9-Goddess of Rot Malenia
10-Starscourge Radahn
I don't see One Piece here.
I don’t see berserk here.
The crazy thing is some of the Bosses that are really hard is still just really weak when we fight them like maliketh placidusax and malenia.
Now Messmer is on the top, please. He's already a super complex character yet as Marika's firstborn, imagine the amount of deep lore that is potentially related to him besides what we already know. We can make theories of him even about the time before Marika ascended to the godhood!
6:30 dawg morgott beat radahns ass HOW IS HE LOWER THAN HIMMMMM
Shout out to rykkard and his blasphemous sword because I don’t think I would have beaten Elden ring without it. He’s the real goat fr 😂
The thing about Astelle: these voidborn are basically entities that fell from the sky with comets. The damage Astelle caused was also the inspiration for Radahn to "capture the stars" ergo meaning so no more voidborn can destroy any cities, in Radahns case mainly Sellia since he learned gravity magic there. He literally held up the giant comet which fell down after he died causing the whole down to Nokstella
edit: Radahn also wanted to defeat all these "comets" and their entities himself, which I forgot to add but felt important
Rykard is the perfect example of “Could’ve Should’ve” been the best. If he had not fallen to depraved means, he would’ve been the strongest. Even Lyndell couldn’t stop him, nor his own soldiers and forces, let alone anything else. Of course that COULD’VE been the result. An unbeatable demigod with unparalleled units. Instead, became not even half of that.
Where's let me solo her at?
He's definitely got enough visual lore surrounding him that he's easily top 3
Godrick licked Malenia's boots, gods he is a genius
13:01
Now here’s the problem where I do agree Malenias placement in base
The god of rot would bump her up only to above this mad radhan (That being said the DLC changes that and further pushes that Radhan is indeed far stronger then base Malenia)
He's weaker in the dlc bro. The only hard part of that fight is phase 2, when miquella starts hard carrying
It's a good thing that placi and maliketh stayed in farum azula yeah?
btw you can fight the regal ancestor spirit without beating Godrick
Well, we now know that is was Bayle vs Plac.... damn epic battle
Plad, Radagon, Marika is op asf and granseax was name means the Biggest so he just the biggest dragon ohh and Pladaseax is an optional boss sooo he still alive and the Elden Beast is just a part of the Greater Will btw doc update it’s half power basically
I think the coolest thing about Godfrey is the fact that he's just some guy, he doesn't have any extraordinary superpower he was born with, and neither does he loan any power from a god like Malenia, Mogh, Radahn, Morgott etc etc
One thing you missed about godfrey is his battle with placidiusax, godfrey is the reason he is missing one of his three heads.
Nop, they never met, bayle is the reason he is missing 2 head's
@@Hydan16 oh damn mb, ty for the correction
@@Hydan16Sure but he had 5 heads so he lost 2 to Bayle and the other one to?
@@denizseyhan1053 to be honest, no idea, i know he lost two for bayle because you can see them on his back, maybe bayle cut one more off or he lost it during some other battle
@@Hydan16 Nah the game says he lost 2 to BAYLE THE DREAD so I do not think there is anh reason for the game to lie.
Using 'You See Big Girl / T:T' in the background gave me instant PTSD and then following it up with the BOTW dragon theme to chill out to was quite the ride
I will point out one thing with Rykard that I believe could put him higher, it involves the blasphemous claw; basically Ranni rewarded it to Rykard (meaning he likely had involvement with the night of the black knives) in the case that he would have to challenge Maliketh, this means that Ranni likely thought Rykard capable of actually putting up a fight against Maliketh which is of course impressive.
Obviously this never actually happened but I believe the fact Rykard was thought at least capable of fighting Maliketh is a testament to his strength, then there is also the fact that Rykard may not even be dead and will just come back over time with the serpent.
the ancestral spirit is feetless because it has hoofs
I think Malenia should be higher. She has so much going for her. Her design, story, imagery themes is some of the best FromSoft had to offer.
Give the tarnished a stick and he can beat all of them 🔥🔥
Morgott could definitely be stronger than Radahn. After all, he successfully defended Leyndell against two sieges from the other demigods. Also, since omen are persecuted, even if people knew that Morgott was who he was, no one would ever call him stronger than the other demigods. It's the same throughout history - smart, strong and influential people who are discriminated against are almost never acknowledged for their achievements. The story is vague for a reason, so that people can speculate on these things, and I think that Morgott, being one of the oldest and most experienced demigods, could definitely have a case made for him being the strongest.
Damn bummer that Margott got #10, he’s my favorite in the series still even with shadow of the erdtree DLC included. Idk there’s just something badass with that “Last of all Kings” line. Great list tho 👍🏼
At 8:23 there’s two kinds of Albinaurics, the ones in Mohgs palace and the ones with no legs are both albinaurics
Not a bad, list actually. Here's mine:
15. Regal Ancestor
14. Rennala
13. Godrick
12. Astel
11. Mohg
10. Rykard
9. Morgott
8. Fire Giant
7. Malenia
6. Radahn
5. Placidussax
4. Fortissax
3. Godfrey
2. Maliketh
1. Radagon and the Elden Beast
The editing at 19:47 is so badass
For the Regal Ancestor Spirit, my only issue is that if you say that it’s stronger than Godrick because of progression, you also have to say it’s stronger than Radahn. His fight is required to unlock the underground areas, unless you do some serious running around. I think due to it being featless as well like you said, it is the weakest.
At the Morgott section about the Shattering timeline, I believe either George RR said it lasted something like 5000 years OR he wrote the events until the player shows up to cover 5000 years. ALSO its possible that Rahdan was just pushed out of the Capital bc Rahdan didn't want the Capital flattened by his power, remember this guy held back the stars while manic and out of his mind BUT then you have to consider Morgott hating his bloodline which may have limited his potential, where as Mohg loved his bloodline, would ascend his followers to become more powerful. I got a little off topic BUT I PERSONALLY and SUBJECTIVELY look at the paintings from the trailer and intro as being "true but...c'mon man" like Mohg stealing Miquella from the Haligtree but we find this huge person on some hips