Is Egypt safe for gay and lesbian travelers?
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
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1:43: Overview of topics covered
2:11: Is it legal to be gay in Egypt?
3:22: Differences in perceived identity between USA and Egypt
4:36: Privilege for foreign tourists
6:28: Tips and tricks for gay and lesbian travelers to Egypt
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I get asked all the time if Egypt is a safe place for gay and lesbian travelers. This is a highly personal question, and a lot depends on the travelers asking. In this video, I cover several topics related to this question, and I hope to explore this further down the road with a more robust video series.
Thanks so much for this wonderfully useful video. We’ve binged on multiple videos on your channel in preparation for our upcoming trip. You are clearly very knowledgeable an easy to listen to. Keep up the great work and thanks!
Thank you! I hope you all have a great trip :)
That was a really interesting topic to talk about. Thank u Gus.
My pleasure, Miguel! Send me an email if you’d like to talk about how I can help with a trip to Egypt 😇
gus@egyptadventurestravel.com
This video is so well done and nuanced. Subscribed! :D
Thank you!
Super video. Thank you for your detailed and well researched material.
Thank you!
Thank you Gus! Very important and fascinating topic
Thanks for watching, Michael
I am an Egyptian my self love how you brought this up pretty accurate
Thank you for watching!
Great video Gus!
Thanks, Barb! ❤️❤️
I'm Desperate to visit Egypt, and have always been really reluctant to because I'm gay, so this video was really informative and has helped calm my fears about it, so thank you 🙏🌟
My pleasure! It’s not the right choice for everyone, but I want people to know that it is definitely a possibility.
Such an informative video, so thank you! When my husband and I as a gay couple travelled to Morocco from the UK, I had had to do all the research and confirmation with local riads myself to be sure that they'd be OK for two men to share a bed. You could have saved me a lot of time if you were a Moroccan tour operator and had a video like this one! 😂
I'm so glad you guys got to go to Morocco! It is on my list for sure. If you would like help with your trip to Egypt, send me an email! gus@egyptadventurestravel.com
Thank you so much for this
My pleasure!
bravo - well done and with useful information:-)
My pleasure, thanks!
I've been to Egypt twice. Good advice!
Thank you!
So long as they don't know you are gay you should be fine - def no kissing etc in public
Yes, very good point. I advise no kissing in public for ANYONE, gay or straight. Public displays of affection are usually frowned upon throughout Egypt.
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel NoPDA in public but in that hotel room should be fine, possibly ?
@@torreionjones9317 yes, in private spaces like inside a hotel room, but definitely not in any public areas.
When we toured we made sure our tour guides were gay friendly via the tour organizer ahead of time. This helped greatly, but still caused confusion on our Nile River Cruise. The cruise staff did not want to give us our assigned room because it only had one bed. They did not understand that is what we wanted. It took about 2 hours before they understood and they still changed our rooms to two twin beds. It was awkward, but the cruise was still great.
Sorry that awkward experience happened, but I’m glad you had a good experience overall!
Im sure you guys slept in one bed and messed the other one up to seem someone slept in it, right
Don't come again dirty
What cruise line was this?
@@unbearablepleasures MS Mayflower cruise line
as an egyptain who doesn't work in the tourism industry why would I care about your sexual interest even if knew it you are not egyptain you aren't even a muslim I don't expect tourists to have the same believes as ours and as long as they respect the place's values they are welcome
Thank you for sharing this perspective, Nouran! That is what I have heard from a lot of Egyptian people.
ما انتي علشان مش شغاله في السياحه معندكيش فكره عن شيء ومتعرفيش ان شوا-ذ كتير بيجوا قاصدين يظهروا ميولهم الشا-ذه بطرق كتير منها علم الرينبو ومنها لبس شكله مش طبيعي وحجات تانيه
Can u make a video about the new exchange station Adly mansour where metro , LRT, buses and future monoral meets together
I’d love to get out there to make a video-I won’t be back in Egypt until November/December though, so it will be a while!
I am gay from the uk and will be travelling next summer to Egypt, I’m not in a relationship or travelling with any one else who is gay or anything, but I have filler in my lips (a lot) and I am also a drag queen.
So obviously I won’t be doing drag there so that I don’t disrespect the culture or laws but I do want to be able to still be myself as my out of drag self and I’m not too fussed about my dress sense as I dress quite masculine out of drag have a beard ect
But I have bleach blonde hair on the top and my natural colour on the sides (black) is it okay for me to still travel here for a week with family with this type of look?
Hi there! To me, you will be fine. Like I say in the video, Egyptians don’t care too much about what tourists look like and what they wear (they may comment and stare, but you won’t get in trouble). My guess is aside from some states and the occasional question, you won’t face any issues. I hope you have a great trip!
How did it go?
Hello. I’m coming from Australia next week and stopping in Cairo for only one day, and then I’m off to Europe. I just realised that in my passport, I am wearing make up. Eyeliners and eyelashes etc. Will I have any issues at the airport? Can they deny me entry due to my gender and picture differences?
Also, is it safe for me to attend a bar whilst wearing eyelashes? I will likely have eyelash extensions which can’t be removed.
Hi there, I don’t see eyelashes being an issue, besides getting some stares and maybe some questions. I’d recommend against wearing any makeup, though. Please update us with what your experience is like!
Does all of this advice apply to gay solo travelers? I get told i give off being not straight by people who already know that but never anyone actually picking up on it and asking me before I tell them (I wouldn’t do that in Egypt or course).
Yes, it all applies to solo travelers as well.
Great video 👍🏼, I would like to add: refrain from using any dating apps as I read online, police often use them as traps…is this really happening BTW?
From what I have heard, this is something that has happened before, so I would advise anyone using any methods to meet LGBTQ+ folx to use caution.
I’m a tall female with short hair and mostly wear “masculine” clothing. Even in the US people try to kick me out of women’s restrooms since they mistake me for a guy. Any tips on whether this will be dangerous when I head out there for work in a few weeks? Should I try to wear makeup or change my attire some? I can’t exactly just grow out my hair…
Hi Brunson, thank you for watching and for commenting! I had another female on a guided tour with me who was in a similar situation--she had short hair and wore "masculine" clothing. Egyptian people definitely looked at her more than the average person, but she and I did not notice anything hostile or negative, they were just curious. She did not have any issues with using female restrooms, but we were mostly in fancier, "tourist" areas. I suggest you bring some different options for clothes and "be yourself" for the first day or two and see how that feels. If it feels uncomfortable, then change it up. I do not anticipate you running into any major issues, though.
I would love for you to comment again after your trip and share a bit of your experience...it would help my viewers who have similar questions.
As an aside, an Egyptian acquaintance of mine is female and always dresses in suits and hair very short cropped hair. She's often at a dive bar that I love going to. I've noticed that her friends address her in both the masculine and feminine pronouns in Arabic, which I've always found interesting, but haven't found out the right way to ask about yet!
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel Great video Gus! I think it's great information and is not really mentioned in any other videos that I have seen on UA-cam. I am straight but have a lot of gay friends abroad that are hesitant to visit Egypt and this video really sheds some light on the situation here regarding LGTBQ+. Can I ask, what's the name of the dive bar you mentioned? I am living in Cairo now and know some spots but always looking for more 😅
@@Gventures feel free to send me an email and I’d love to share some spots 👍🏼
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel Thanks Gus!
I just recently came out as bi 2 months ago. I still want to go and I still want to appreciate the many cultures and historical sites of the world, Egypt included. I will say, it has been hard to figure out where to go because of my newfound (or rather, long-time hidden) identity. Even if they might not accept me, I still accept the world's diversity for what it is. I just don't want my identity to change anything, if that makes sense.
That being said, selecting a place for a honeymoon will be tricky.
I hope you are able to make the best decision for you! And if you do end up traveling to Egypt, that you have a wonderful trip.
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel thank you. I love your blog, which is where I found this video.
Thanks for this info. I have wanted to go to Egypt for the longest time but have dismissed the idea because I'm #1-white, and #2-gay, and I just thought it wasn't worth it with all the craziness in the world. I'll definitely contact you when I decide to finally go. I'm glad it's a possibility now.
I have tons of travelers on my group tours (and private tours) who are both #1 and #2, and we always have a great time 😊.
I’m excited to chat about your Egypt trip! Get in touch anytime.
this is a very informative video !. just be private , respectful. enjoy your stay, the food, and the country. no need to share too much or to be very affectionate in public. keep that to the hotel room 😉
Thank you!
I am soon embarking on my second vacation in Egypt. I found that on my first trip my sexual identity was not an issue. If you present yourself to the world with dignity and pride, you are going to be respected. Simply refrain from public displays of affection and overt proselytizing. You can “be yourself“ but remember that you are NOT in YOUR home country. Let common sense and good manners guide your actions.
I agree 👍🏼
Was your Gayness written on your T-shirt ?
No. Than no-one can tell.
I traveled to Egypt with my sister who's lesbian. In Dahab they're pretty cool with LGBT. Heck..even my Airbnb in Luxor is pretty accepting of my sister. Of course my Airbnb in Luxor spent over 20 years in the UK so that's probably a factor as to why he's pretty accepting. But in Cairo just don't tell anyone about your gender identity.
Thank you for sharing-I’m glad you had that experience in Luxor!
Was ‘Lesbian’ written on her forehead ?
Love the way you recognize your privilege!!
I think it's important -- thanks for watching and commenting :)
Great video bro, how about dating locals? is that a big NONO?
I've known foreigners who have dated local Egyptians, but have never seen any long term relationships last. Not saying it isn't possible though! Just not something I have seen, due to a lot of factors.
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel I mean, about the LGBT point of view of dating locals
Yes, that was how I interpreted your comment and that is what I was referring to in my reply above 👍🏼
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel I guess they were more into money and gifts huh, that’s why it doesn’t last
@@jay23cr that wasn’t my impression of the people I know-just a lot of cultural differences and societal pressures.
Well i must say you nailed it very good. However after travelling to Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries there is something i keep hearing from locals when i speak with them "Oh yes all single Western men are gay and all single Western women are easy..." (I dont agree but i do hear many say this) its just their point of view. When i was in Alexandria in a Boutique Hotel (it was great btw) i had a room with Double bed, but i travel alone. 1 afternoon the receptionist with 2 guards knocked on my door and said "Sir! No Visitors in the room!", i guess they heard the tv and thought i had male company and being a male myself well.... offcourse there was no one, they searched my room and left confused since no bust. Though i looked with a happy smug on my face thinking "No tips for you" ✌😈. Not the 1st time this happens
Thank you! Interesting story-I’m glad everything turned out alright in the end.
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel Oh yes, i went back there this year, she dindt dare to do it again. ✌
Cuz adultery is really big crime in Egypt and hotels need to protect the law In the room even if you are couples you need marriage certificate to get one room
Same same in Vietnam years ago! I hear ya girl ;)
yes egyptians have no sense of privacy 😂😂😂 if they meet you for the first time they will ask you all the type of questions but you know it is sometimes annoying but to us many think it is a way of being friendly and strenghtening your relationship with the people you talk to . for example a taxi driver may talk to you about his personal problems and have no issue with that
Yes, very true-I have experienced this a lot!
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel
Bro I want to inform you about something important, Egyptians don’t look like African Americans at all, please be aware of this because of course you know about the Afrocentric movement no need to talk about it , and we canceled Kevin heart show because of this and there is now growing fury towards this movement and the African people who subscribe to this movement among Egyptians,we used to overlook their actions in the temples and calling the natives Arab invaders, we will not tolerate this anymore and this is our right.
Okay
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I'm Egyptian, everyone is welcomed in Egypt, we are all humans after all, just respect the country and the culture and don't shove it in peoples faces
Thanks for watching and commenting.
VERY GOOD VIDEO. I really liked it. Congratulations. I lived in Egypt for 4 years and I am gay. I NEVER had a problem. Yes, being a foreigner will help you very much IF you are from Europe, US, Canada, Japan ... rich countries HHHHHHHH I would like to know if the gay hammams in Egypt are still open. I heard they were all closed.
Thanks for watching and commenting, and for sharing your experience.
Since you brought up white privilege, what privilegea do black gays have in Egypt and is it the same dynamics as in the United States and other white countries were they are treated as second class citizens?
Hi Victor, thanks for bringing this topic up! For me, the biggest difference I notice (based on my experiences and from what I heard from my black friends in Cairo) is that Egyptians automatically look at me and assume I am foreign, and so they always see me in a different light.
There are many people in Egypt who have very dark skin, and look similar to African American people from the USA. So an Egyptian person will not always automatically look at a black person (who is a foreigner) and give them the same benefits that they do me.
For example, since I am white and am always perceived as a foreigner right away, I am often helped crossing the street, given preferential and deferential treatment by law enforcement, and allowed to enter many spaces (5-star hotel lobbies, tourist sites) without much question.
I only knew one black foreigner who is also LGBTQ+, and I last spoke with him several years ago, before starting my travel business, so I am not sure how the dynamics of black LGTBQ+ folks differs (or is the same) as those in the USA and other white-majority countries. And I am not sure how the privileges work either. My guess is that once an Egyptian person knows someone is foreign (especially those from the USA or Europe), they will treat them similarly to how I am treated as a foreigner, even if the person is black, but I might be totally off-base with this.
Are there any black, non-Egyptian, LGBTQ+ folks who have the space and energy to share about their experience? You can always send me an email as well. I would love to do a video interview or a blog post!
Best wishes, Victor,
Gus
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel thanks for your reply. Normally you would expect someone to reply back with a brief sentence or two, but you went above and beyond.
@@pfunk360 this is a topic that is important to me, so all the thanks to you for your question 😊.
did u know that A few months ago, the Netflix platform prepared the first Egyptian movie in which the most famous Egyptian actress is represented by Mona Zaki, who speaks well about gays. I love Netflix
I didn't know Mona Zaki supports LGBTQ+ folks! That's awesome. What is the name of the movie?
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel Sorry, it was a series called اصحاب ولا اعز
@@egkimguy3313 thank you! I’ll check it out 👍🏼
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel i hope u enjoy ☺
@@egkimguy3313 thank you!
So be discreet and not shove it in peoples faces! I am gay and English and live in Australia, and I think a massive issue here is now is people just have to get in the communities face and shove it without reservation down everyone's throat! It has caused so much tension and pulled the whole acceptance thing back years now. I sometimes look on in horror myself, as thousands of other gay people do now. Do people need the billboard of what you do in your bed? Frankly no!
Being discreet is definitely my recommendation for any LGBTQ+ travelers going to Egypt 👍🏼
They should travel to EU countries
EU countries would be a great option, and Egypt is also a good option, as long as LGBTQ+ tourists know what to expect 👍🏼.
Iam Egyptian gay and I want to be straight
Iam still 17😥
خلي بالك من نفسك و كل السنة و انت طيب ❤️
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel 🥹 I wish but I hate myself
@@mostafa8659 اتمنى كل حاجة هيكون احسن في حياتك
man you can contact me ! I am gotta help you
Just for your info who gay traveler needs to be careful
Yes, definitely being careful and informed is important.
Well to my fellow LGBT+ travellers...i think we all know how tricky it can be most of the times...heck in most countries in the world we must step on our toes 😣. Despite this i Always try (no matter what country i go to) to respect the local Culture/Law/Religion since i am a guest and its their country offcourse. However! Just because we must respect it, doesnt mean we must like it do we ? Remember most of the time (if your from "the West") we are just walking ATM's to them arent we? I had the same guide in Egypt for 8 years, the man was like the History loving dad i wish i had 🥳. However when he said he was soooo happy a few gay men got arrested in Cairo for flying the rainbow flag at a concert or when his wife was disgusted when i told her a little boy wasnt allowed into a certain themepark because he was dressed as a princess... i both fired them 😁. Thats sweet Karma for ya. In the words of Bruce Allmighty : i got the power 😎 (gonna get so much hate from locals for this but it had to be said ✌)
Thank you for sharing that story-sounds like you have a lot of experience in Egypt!
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel Well i do love Ancient History and Egypt is a treasure source of that isnt it :D. 1st time was 2010 and went every year after it. Now i want to see other countries but i still try to go to Alexandria every year. again good video, its not an easy topic. When i go, i usually dont hire a guide anymore because of the Homophobia and again i respect their Culture/Law/Religion but im not financing that phobia and thats my right. Most people i know in Egypt are now Expats since its just easier... recently told my Dutch friend in Egypt im lgbt and she had no problem with it, but she said "dont tell my Egyptian husband, he will throw you out the house and you can never visit me again". and she is just to amazing, so shhhhh
@@ThebanTraveller I’m glad you get to go so often! And when you’re that familiar, having a guide isn’t a necessity, because I’m sure you can make your way around just fine 👍🏼
hahaha 😂😂😂u are amazing
I really like his videos but he always refers to the U.S. and sometimes Europe but what about Australia
, New Zealand, and Canada ? I think he should may say North America mention Australia New Zealand or say western country. It’s disappointing to hear this from someone well travelled!
Hi Richard,
Thanks for this feedback! I’ll do a better job adding those places in to my future videos.
When I started my business 3 years ago, I thought all my clients would be from the USA, Canada, and Europe, but over the years I have planned trips for people from all over, like the Maldives, Indonesia, Australia, Brazil, Guatemala, New Zealand, and more! So I want to do a better job being more inclusive with my words.
I appreciate the nudge :)
There is alot gays and bi in egypt
Is that a statement, or a question?
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel noo, is a true answer
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel is a answer hahaha
@@marcoshuayai3995 got it. Yes, there are LGBTQ+ folks everywhere in the world, including Egypt. There isn’t a place in the world where there aren’t gay folks-just because everyone is in the closet, doesn’t mean they’re not there 👍🏼
@@EgyptAdventuresTravel i know but they suppose to be a men but most of the muslims men are bi and gays
W egypt
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@@EgyptAdventuresTravel OP this is a 12 year old kid in the comments
@@littleantukins4415 ah, got it. Thanks!
I spent 6 months in Egypt traveling alone. My conclusion is... Egypt is not safe at all, especially for the gay community.
Thanks for expounding on your earlier comment! I’m sorry that you felt unsafe in Egypt. Are you a member of the LGBTQ+ community?
Mighty white video you got here...
I would love to do an additional video to add more perspectives. Have you traveled to Egypt before? If you are interested in collaborating, feel free to shoot me an email: gus@egyptadventurestravel.com
I recognize that as a white, U.S. American traveler, that is the experience and insight I can offer, so I am open and excited to the idea of having other folks of different backgrounds join me on a future video. Thanks!
You slayed this response
@@donavon3298just saw this comment-missed it before. Thanks! :)
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@@EgyptAdventuresTravel ?
Are you only talking about "white people" when you are talking about foreign tourists?
No-someone who is white will definitely be identified very quickly as a tourist or outsider, but so will someone who is Asian, for example.
Do you have a specific question on an aspect of the video? Happy to help!
No diff we don't belief in ethnics we consider nationality most ppl in Egypt don't know what is ethnics even mean we see it just a skin tune
No!
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