I was sexually abused and raped as a very young child for several years. It didn't hit me when I was young, then as I got older it fucked with my head a little more until I got old enough to properly deal with it little by little. Some days that trauma rears it's head and I'm back in a funk for a day or two. It's an ugly thing man that I don't wish on anybody. So cheers to all the people here and out there that got messed up back when but managed to become decent people anyways and let us pour some out for the ones we lost along the way.
I'm a man of 36yo at the time of writing this. My older sister and I were both victims and survivors of child sexual abuse at early ages and for different reasons. The monster was our biological father, who stole my older sister's innocence out of twisted lust when she was only 5yo. He stole mine out of anger and as "punishment", for catching him in the act with my older sister in early 1995 when I was a boy of only 5yo (my older sister was 7yo at the time). That monster ruthlessly sodomized me a total of 5-7 times between 1995 and 1997. The last time he sodomized me was in late summer of 1997, while my family was on vacation visiting his parents (my grandparents) and relatives in Oregon. Which was also when our mother discovered that the monster was molesting my older sister. Mom overheard my older sister (12yo) and our older teenage half-sister (17yo) discussing what our father did to them thru the door of our older half-sister's bedroom. My mom kept that monster away from my sister by letting her stay over at our half-sister's house for the remainder of the vacation. It took my mom less than 2 weeks after we returned home, to have the monster arrested for molesting my sister. He was convicted and sentenced 11 to life in prison in 1998. That monster died alone in his prison cell from a stroke and head injury (he fell and hit his head on the edge of the stainless steel cell toilet) in March 2013 at the old Utah State Prison "The Point" in Draper, Utah. The news of his death has sadly caused all of the painful memories of what he had done to me, that I had kept subconsciously suppressed to the point I had almost forgotten them, to steadily resurface over this past decade.
I honestly don't know what to think about this issue. The fact that they are having a nuanced conversation about it, without going into arguments, I appreciate. This needs to happen more often. The US has become far too tribal, we can no longer accept a logical discussion from a detractor, we just go into "but my side says" mode. There's room for grey areas out there. And that also includes whether grey is grey, or gray. Something that some people will argue about.
For anyone who says they don't believe the "boys" were sexually abused. I need to hear you explain why so nany otger people who knew the mother and father believed they did it. Why did 2 of the cousins said they either heard or witnessed the abused when they were hunger. And lastly explain the reason of why the father would have sexually explicit pictures of his son's as kids hidden away. Btw the cousin also accused the mother of sexually abusing one of the sons. The brothers did what no one else around then was brave enough to do. They got rid of 2 monsters who shouldn't have ever been left around children.
So there’s evidence that the dad was doing all that shit and the mom knew?…or are we taking the sons words on the matter when they’re supposed to be narcissistic?
They should never be allowed to leave prison. Just like Gypsy Rose should still be locked up. If she's a hero and a survivor of horrific abuse what about the guy she convinced to actually take her mom out that has autism why is he still locked up. They were so abused that they had to go out on a spending spree. Have they ever proven they were sexually assaulted? Because if not I'll call BS
there was a lot of proof for sexual molestation and abuse. Family members, cousins, freinds, doctors, and more all testified on their behalf saying that what theyre saying is true. During the trial, the prosecution could not find a single person besidses the fathers secutary to say anything nice about him. Speaking of proof, recenlty a former member of the band menudo came out and said that the menendez brothers father had molested him on several occasions. and a letter written by the younger brother to his cousin almost a year before the murders was found and it stated that the abuse was still happening. I reccomend u watch the netfliz documentary (not the show cuz thats ass and just straight up lies)
The sentences were life with no chance of parole. The new sentencing would change that to life with the chance of parole. Their next parole hearing would be scheduled for next year. It is a troubling situation. Everyone is responsible for their own actions but what would be the normal for someone that was in such a horrible situation? The most important question would be are they likely to reoffend or with their abusers gone would they be safe for the general population? They have been in prison for 35 years.
You have to take into account though, this is just allegations of being molested. They didn’t prove any of that in court and everything was hearsay. And if all those witnesses supposedly saw this, why did no one report this? Don’t just take their word for it until there’s evidence.
The thing that convinces me is that they found a bunch of naked photos of the kids in the house, and I don’t mean like family vacation. Photos with a kid happens to be naked I’m talking photos, taken from the waist down of them, both naked and erect at like five.
@@Danheron2None of this is true. The photos could clearly be seen in the court room on Court TV. There was nothing pornographic. And the letter to the cousin doesn’t say anything specific. It was also only mailed to her a few months before the murders. And they premeditated the whole murder.
Presenting allegations as proven facts is suspect at best. Should these claims be investigated, absolutely, sadly time is against the Menendez brothers, both from a perspective and the years lost if the allegations are true. Speaking as a survivor of childhood abuse myself, I am not unsympathetic, but the story gets harder to take on faith (and prove) the more distant in the past it is presented. Had it been my bacon looking at the fire, I would have spilled my guts completely the night I committed the act, not hidden it.
I don't believe any of these allegations against the Parents who aren't here to defend themselves. Those kids murdered their parents to inherit the estate and they lied on the 911 call when they stated "Someone killed my parents". I dont believe ANY of these abuse accusations at all.
i recomend looking into the case more. There a so many doctors and people who specealize in child abuse that testified that there is no way they could be lying about this. Plus new evidence has come out proving that their dad was also molesting other young boys, and more. I get how u would feel like this, but its just a matter of hearing out the facts and then coming to a conclusion. I recomend watching the netflix documentary ( not the show), it gives a pretty broad over view, but its accurate.
Other people other then the boys, admitting to it? Not enough for you? Doctors reports not enough for you? Other family admitting it not enough for you? What is enough for you?
I was sexually abused and raped as a very young child for several years. It didn't hit me when I was young, then as I got older it fucked with my head a little more until I got old enough to properly deal with it little by little. Some days that trauma rears it's head and I'm back in a funk for a day or two. It's an ugly thing man that I don't wish on anybody. So cheers to all the people here and out there that got messed up back when but managed to become decent people anyways and let us pour some out for the ones we lost along the way.
Great episode boys!!!
I'm a man of 36yo at the time of writing this. My older sister and I were both victims and survivors of child sexual abuse at early ages and for different reasons.
The monster was our biological father, who stole my older sister's innocence out of twisted lust when she was only 5yo. He stole mine out of anger and as "punishment", for catching him in the act with my older sister in early 1995 when I was a boy of only 5yo (my older sister was 7yo at the time). That monster ruthlessly sodomized me a total of 5-7 times between 1995 and 1997.
The last time he sodomized me was in late summer of 1997, while my family was on vacation visiting his parents (my grandparents) and relatives in Oregon. Which was also when our mother discovered that the monster was molesting my older sister.
Mom overheard my older sister (12yo) and our older teenage half-sister (17yo) discussing what our father did to them thru the door of our older half-sister's bedroom. My mom kept that monster away from my sister by letting her stay over at our half-sister's house for the remainder of the vacation.
It took my mom less than 2 weeks after we returned home, to have the monster arrested for molesting my sister. He was convicted and sentenced 11 to life in prison in 1998.
That monster died alone in his prison cell from a stroke and head injury (he fell and hit his head on the edge of the stainless steel cell toilet) in March 2013 at the old Utah State Prison "The Point" in Draper, Utah.
The news of his death has sadly caused all of the painful memories of what he had done to me, that I had kept subconsciously suppressed to the point I had almost forgotten them, to steadily resurface over this past decade.
Go get some trauma therapy bud. Sorry you went through that. I hope you can heal.
I honestly don't know what to think about this issue. The fact that they are having a nuanced conversation about it, without going into arguments, I appreciate. This needs to happen more often. The US has become far too tribal, we can no longer accept a logical discussion from a detractor, we just go into "but my side says" mode. There's room for grey areas out there. And that also includes whether grey is grey, or gray. Something that some people will argue about.
I wish there was more of us screaming this from the mountain tops. What happened to discussion? OUR PREDIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DONT EVEN DEBATE ANYMORE!
For anyone who says they don't believe the "boys" were sexually abused. I need to hear you explain why so nany otger people who knew the mother and father believed they did it. Why did 2 of the cousins said they either heard or witnessed the abused when they were hunger. And lastly explain the reason of why the father would have sexually explicit pictures of his son's as kids hidden away. Btw the cousin also accused the mother of sexually abusing one of the sons. The brothers did what no one else around then was brave enough to do. They got rid of 2 monsters who shouldn't have ever been left around children.
So there’s evidence that the dad was doing all that shit and the mom knew?…or are we taking the sons words on the matter when they’re supposed to be narcissistic?
They should never be allowed to leave prison. Just like Gypsy Rose should still be locked up. If she's a hero and a survivor of horrific abuse what about the guy she convinced to actually take her mom out that has autism why is he still locked up.
They were so abused that they had to go out on a spending spree. Have they ever proven they were sexually assaulted? Because if not I'll call BS
there was a lot of proof for sexual molestation and abuse. Family members, cousins, freinds, doctors, and more all testified on their behalf saying that what theyre saying is true. During the trial, the prosecution could not find a single person besidses the fathers secutary to say anything nice about him. Speaking of proof, recenlty a former member of the band menudo came out and said that the menendez brothers father had molested him on several occasions. and a letter written by the younger brother to his cousin almost a year before the murders was found and it stated that the abuse was still happening. I reccomend u watch the netfliz documentary (not the show cuz thats ass and just straight up lies)
The sentences were life with no chance of parole. The new sentencing would change that to life with the chance of parole. Their next parole hearing would be scheduled for next year. It is a troubling situation. Everyone is responsible for their own actions but what would be the normal for someone that was in such a horrible situation? The most important question would be are they likely to reoffend or with their abusers gone would they be safe for the general population? They have been in prison for 35 years.
Angry cops just chillen
You have to take into account though, this is just allegations of being molested. They didn’t prove any of that in court and everything was hearsay. And if all those witnesses supposedly saw this, why did no one report this? Don’t just take their word for it until there’s evidence.
The thing that convinces me is that they found a bunch of naked photos of the kids in the house, and I don’t mean like family vacation. Photos with a kid happens to be naked I’m talking photos, taken from the waist down of them, both naked and erect at like five.
Friends and other family members confirmed the sexual assaults. So you know.
@ So you know it was all just someone told me and they told me this. Then it brings the question of why did no one report that abuse?
@@Danheron2None of this is true. The photos could clearly be seen in the court room on Court TV. There was nothing pornographic. And the letter to the cousin doesn’t say anything specific. It was also only mailed to her a few months before the murders. And they premeditated the whole murder.
@@voodoomaestro well another one of their fathers victims who isn't attached to them has come foreword so...
Presenting allegations as proven facts is suspect at best. Should these claims be investigated, absolutely, sadly time is against the Menendez brothers, both from a perspective and the years lost if the allegations are true. Speaking as a survivor of childhood abuse myself, I am not unsympathetic, but the story gets harder to take on faith (and prove) the more distant in the past it is presented. Had it been my bacon looking at the fire, I would have spilled my guts completely the night I committed the act, not hidden it.
I don't believe any of these allegations against the Parents who aren't here to defend themselves. Those kids murdered their parents to inherit the estate and they lied on the 911 call when they stated "Someone killed my parents". I dont believe ANY of these abuse accusations at all.
Would U Admit Your Parents Sexually Abused U for 15 ish Years??? That Kind Of ABUSE Mentally F*CKS People Up... Dont Judge What U DONT Understand!
i recomend looking into the case more. There a so many doctors and people who specealize in child abuse that testified that there is no way they could be lying about this. Plus new evidence has come out proving that their dad was also molesting other young boys, and more. I get how u would feel like this, but its just a matter of hearing out the facts and then coming to a conclusion. I recomend watching the netflix documentary ( not the show), it gives a pretty broad over view, but its accurate.
they are good liars but they did it for money
Yes
2:14 ... Why... Why are ACs toes painted?...
Both brothers were not being SA all their lives.. Lyle was molested from 6-8 and Erik was the one who was molested from 5 or 6 until 18.
Strong end to the video
The court needs to be lenient on them, they are orphans after all!😂
Was this proved or? Are they coming up with a story? I'm just curious.
Where is the proof the dad was .... Them?
Other people other then the boys, admitting to it? Not enough for you? Doctors reports not enough for you? Other family admitting it not enough for you? What is enough for you?
I think the Menendez Brothers' story is bs. I think they said thst abuse stuff just to cover their rears. They just wanted a payday.
All the abuse is alleged, it was never proven as far as I know.
You also would have to believe what the Menendez Brothers are saying. It’s just an accusation.
In my opinion they should have gotten off Scott free
Unless there is evidence not hersey they should rot in jail.
First
My cell mate was seventeen he protected his sister. Brother just turned 18... they were full grown adults... lol okay