Definitely nice to have a down bag for the packability and light weight. I recently bought a Paria Thermo-Down 0 degree bag. So far I've used it on a weekend trip last November the temps were in the 30's at night and I was in a hot tent. But once the fire burned out, it still kept me nice and warm. Haven't been able to try it in colder conditions yet since the winter here in Michigan was a joke this year. Thanks for the video, Blackie. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for another informative video. Having a sled, or "pulk" is a great means of transporting heavier loads of outdoor gear. Not sure, but believe that the idea originated in Sweden, and has been used for many years. Thanks for your "Ground Pounder" series, and all of the very informative videos that you air on your channel. Cheers.
Dpm is like British military surplus woodland camo of US. I like the colors of it. I have a DPM gas mask bag I am using for my haversack. Great video Blackie thanks for sharing 😊 stay safe
I like DPM as well. Have a couple of shirts, boonie hat, and the gas mask case. I use mine for medical. I'd like to acquire a few more items but you have to order from the UK. I like the German flectarn too. Precious little of that though
Blackie, Thanks for sharing this information and Tip and Trick, and How To. I used a M-49 Mountain Sleeping Bag when I was station in Germany 1980-1982 and the date on it was 1968 , it never did fail me the whole time I was there. I appreciate your Teaching on this subject and All Others Too. Thank You Sir and Enjoy your campout this weekend. God Bless Y'all . Your Brother from North West Tennessee Paris, Tennessee.
A good way to get as much fluff as possible back into a garment or in this case a sleeping bag, is to put it in a slightly warm dryer with a pair of shoes. The shoes knock the feathers around as the dryer is turning and plumps them back up. Give it a try and see what happens to the sleeping bags. To remove a lot of the air in the down that you squeezed in to the little bag a better way of doing it where you won't crush the feathers is to use the vacuum hose. Put the hose into the bag as you are filling it and suck the air out. Good video, thank you for info.
I lined my ruck with a big trash bag- then I used my military sleeping bag and put it inside my ruck sack opened up bucket style; then another trash bag inside the S.B. then I packed all my gear inside as per usual in the second bucket style trash bag. Very little lost space and the sleeping bag was already somewhat lofty and still dry.
Thank for information on how to store the sleeping bags. I didn't know that. I will be getting my bag out to store property later. Another great video.
Anaconda bro green denali down bag. Snugpack bivi your all good in Australia. Whack it thru the dryer on cold hour before you go camping hiking to fluff it out
Back in the day, I carried a -20 degree Snow Lion down sleeping bag and I slipped it inside a nylon bivy sack to protect the sleeping bag inside the tent from liquid spillage and to keep it clean. It also added some additional warmth as well as wind protection in sub zero temps. I also used an oversized uncompressed storage bag when not in use.
In the 101st in the 90s, since our deployment potential was tropics to arctic, we had a bag about the capacity of 2 duffle bags IIRC that was simply full of cold weather gear. Had to store them all in secure storage before we left for Saudi.
REI outdoors company in Seattle years ago explained to me the importance of vigorously shaking any of your down items like parkas, vests and especially sleeping bags when you pull them out of a stuff sack or from your pack. It re-fluffs the down and restores the air space (loft) that is part of what makes a down product so effective at providing the warmth it’s known for. I have never heard anyone in these types of videos pointing out the need to shake your down filled items for better performance. It’s equally as important with synthetic insulations too after being compressed into stuff sacks or crammed into backpacks. It makes a guaranteed difference in how you can keep warm. Especially under quilts with hammocks.
You can get waterproof down fills that are treated…the cover to those ligh bags will puncture rip and burn easily…Does your army bag have the extra waterproof cover on it also ??? Have fun stay safe.
thats a nice Bag !!.......I'm a Quit or envelope style bag myself..... I have both down and fiberfill style bags so Im covered as far as the weather goes..... I like down but it becomes worthless if it gets damp or wet so I pretty much only carry it out if Im using it in a basecamp or fair weather situation other than that its dangerous up here in snow country to find yourself in freezing temps with a wet or damp bag
the thing I find strange about currently available military sleep systems it appears that both the US and the UK issued kit has a lighter 'summer' bag and a heavy 'medium' bag both parts together make a cold weather system but the strange thing is the lightweight bags have a side zip while thr heavier bags have a centre 'burst through' style zip I personally would have thought have centre zips on both with ties to stop them shifting
Good points. Down is the way to go even for coats. I have a couple of parkas you could spend the night in. In snow country a tobaggan to carry all the extras you need is the way to go. Not the tobaggon sold in stores. The one to use is no wider than your stance in snow shoes in the front and tapers inward as you go back.
I use a 20 or 30 Liter aqua quest dry bag when I pack my down quilt. It’s so much easier and faster than stuffing it in the tube style stuff sacks that come with the quilt.
Light dry bag down bag in first. Dry bah rest of gear in that on top. Easy to pull out get doss bag dry bag of kit back in pack quick easy 1 movement loose nothing in the dark
Some things about sleeping bags. 1. Down. Love it. Pros: It's soft, warm and typically compressible. Cons: Must stay dry and hard to dry once wet. Loses loft and therefor warmth. Can be spendy. 2. Various man made fibers. These are ok but have many hidden issues. Whatever you do, don't believe the marketing hype. Some of these companies make outrageous claims. These fibers are primaloft and all the similar fibers. Also not good if wet but not as bad as down. Pros: Affordable, a bit more resistant to wetness. Cons: Not as great an insulator, regardless of the marketing claims. 3. An exception to the man made fibers. Wiggys. There is something to be said for Wiggys bags. They work and even when wet. They have people who have tested by soaking them in a bathtub and then rolling them out on their lawn at
Yes my friend and with aluminum foil to reflect my body heat back into the sleeping bag and extra blankets and 12 hours hand warmers used to heat up my mummy bag my friend
down bag can be a great sleeping bag for cold winter nights but you must know the weakness of down to help prevent a bad camping trip.
Just what is that weakness?
As always great info
I love my down bags! Mostly, while I’m truck camping, I use the fiber-fill bags though.
Definitely nice to have a down bag for the packability and light weight. I recently bought a Paria Thermo-Down 0 degree bag. So far I've used it on a weekend trip last November the temps were in the 30's at night and I was in a hot tent. But once the fire burned out, it still kept me nice and warm. Haven't been able to try it in colder conditions yet since the winter here in Michigan was a joke this year. Thanks for the video, Blackie. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for another informative video. Having a sled, or "pulk" is a great means of transporting heavier loads of outdoor gear. Not sure, but believe that the idea originated in Sweden, and has been used for many years. Thanks for your "Ground Pounder" series, and all of the very informative videos that you air on your channel. Cheers.
Dpm is like British military surplus woodland camo of US. I like the colors of it. I have a DPM gas mask bag I am using for my haversack. Great video Blackie thanks for sharing 😊 stay safe
I like DPM as well. Have a couple of shirts, boonie hat, and the gas mask case. I use mine for medical. I'd like to acquire a few more items but you have to order from the UK. I like the German flectarn too. Precious little of that though
that DPM is effective in my woods
Blackie, Thanks for sharing this information and Tip and Trick, and How To. I used a M-49 Mountain Sleeping Bag when I was station in Germany 1980-1982 and the date on it was 1968 , it never did fail me the whole time I was there. I appreciate your Teaching on this subject and All Others Too. Thank You Sir and Enjoy your campout this weekend. God Bless Y'all . Your Brother from North West Tennessee Paris, Tennessee.
A good way to get as much fluff as possible back into a garment or in this case a sleeping bag, is to put it in a slightly warm dryer with a pair of shoes. The shoes knock the feathers around as the dryer is turning and plumps them back up. Give it a try and see what happens to the sleeping bags. To remove a lot of the air in the down that you squeezed in to the little bag a better way of doing it where you won't crush the feathers is to use the vacuum hose. Put the hose into the bag as you are filling it and suck the air out. Good video, thank you for info.
I lined my ruck with a big trash bag- then I used my military sleeping bag and put it inside my ruck sack opened up bucket style; then another trash bag inside the S.B. then I packed all my gear inside as per usual in the second bucket style trash bag.
Very little lost space and the sleeping bag was already somewhat lofty and still dry.
Thank for information on how to store the sleeping bags. I didn't know that. I will be getting my bag out to store property later. Another great video.
Good informational video Blackie, thanks for sharing YAH bless !
My pleasure
Thank you for sharing this information brother
glad to do it
I love my Extreme Cold US mummy bag, inside liner rips easy now days and I patch with coth first aid tape
those are very nice
Hi Blackie, greeting from Australia 🇦🇺, thank you for your time to make these videos. Muchly appreciated.
Anaconda bro green denali down bag. Snugpack bivi your all good in Australia. Whack it thru the dryer on cold hour before you go camping hiking to fluff it out
Back in the day, I carried a -20 degree Snow Lion down sleeping bag and I slipped it inside a nylon bivy sack to protect the sleeping bag inside the tent from liquid spillage and to keep it clean. It also added some additional warmth as well as wind protection in sub zero temps. I also used an oversized uncompressed storage bag when not in use.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the information Blackie.
Any time!
Blackie could you do an updated visit to the surplus store like you did before with updated info please
sure i will be glad to do that
@@BLACKIETHOMAS ty so much
In the 101st in the 90s, since our deployment potential was tropics to arctic, we had a bag about the capacity of 2 duffle bags IIRC that was simply full of cold weather gear. Had to store them all in secure storage before we left for Saudi.
thank you for your service.! and yes you guys had to jump into any season and weather with no time to get used to it. much respect sir!
REI outdoors company in Seattle years ago explained to me the importance of vigorously shaking any of your down items like parkas, vests and especially sleeping bags when you pull them out of a stuff sack or from your pack. It re-fluffs the down and restores the air space (loft) that is part of what makes a down product so effective at providing the warmth it’s known for. I have never heard anyone in these types of videos pointing out the need to shake your down filled items for better performance. It’s equally as important with synthetic insulations too after being compressed into stuff sacks or crammed into backpacks. It makes a guaranteed difference in how you can keep warm. Especially under quilts with hammocks.
Very informative as normal Mr. Blackie ! Thank You for your time amd experience. It's muchly appreciated ...Alan in 🇨🇱
thanks for watching
enjoyed...!!
Excellent!
Sargevining has a series of videos explaining the history of sleeping bags
You can get waterproof down fills that are treated…the cover to those ligh bags will puncture rip and burn easily…Does your army bag have the extra waterproof cover on it also ??? Have fun stay safe.
thats a nice Bag !!.......I'm a Quit or envelope style bag myself..... I have both down and fiberfill style bags so Im covered as far as the weather goes..... I like down but it becomes worthless if it gets damp or wet so I pretty much only carry it out if Im using it in a basecamp or fair weather situation other than that its dangerous up here in snow country to find yourself in freezing temps with a wet or damp bag
very true water is death in snow country
the thing I find strange about currently available military sleep systems it appears that both the US and the UK issued kit has a lighter 'summer' bag and a heavy 'medium' bag both parts together make a cold weather system but the strange thing is the lightweight bags have a side zip while thr heavier bags have a centre 'burst through' style zip I personally would have thought have centre zips on both with ties to stop them shifting
ah yes but remember it is being created by a committee and they often do not think of such real world practical things
Good points. Down is the way to go even for coats. I have a couple of parkas you could spend the night in. In snow country a tobaggan to carry all the extras you need is the way to go. Not the tobaggon sold in stores. The one to use is no wider than your stance in snow shoes in the front and tapers inward as you go back.
good to know
I use a 20 or 30 Liter aqua quest dry bag when I pack my down quilt. It’s so much easier and faster than stuffing it in the tube style stuff sacks that come with the quilt.
nice
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The Pathfinder Forresters quilt can replace a sleeping bag. It's a solid piece of gear
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thanks
Light dry bag down bag in first. Dry bah rest of gear in that on top. Easy to pull out get doss bag dry bag of kit back in pack quick easy 1 movement loose nothing in the dark
Some things about sleeping bags.
1. Down. Love it. Pros: It's soft, warm and typically compressible. Cons: Must stay dry and hard to dry once wet. Loses loft and therefor warmth. Can be spendy.
2. Various man made fibers. These are ok but have many hidden issues. Whatever you do, don't believe the marketing hype. Some of these companies make outrageous claims. These fibers are primaloft and all the similar fibers. Also not good if wet but not as bad as down. Pros: Affordable, a bit more resistant to wetness. Cons: Not as great an insulator, regardless of the marketing claims.
3. An exception to the man made fibers. Wiggys. There is something to be said for Wiggys bags. They work and even when wet. They have people who have tested by soaking them in a bathtub and then rolling them out on their lawn at
thanks for comment good information
Wiggy's bags are the cat's meow!!😊
Synthetics also tend to be more Flammable.
Do you remember Grandma's feather bed?
lol yep and the song as well
Found a new unused extreme cold type2 for 2 bills
very reasonable price
I have the world War 2 mummy bag
great score
Yes my friend and with aluminum foil to reflect my body heat back into the sleeping bag and extra blankets and 12 hours hand warmers used to heat up my mummy bag my friend
It’s a shame that I’m allergic to down.
sorry i know who that can be
There are synthetic down options that are just as good, if not better, than the real deal.
Blackie, can you tumble dry that on low heat to keep it,fluffy and dry? Thanks!
Yes you can!
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