Fun linguistic shenanigans: The island of Korkyra (commonly spelled Corcyra when referring to the ancient city) is known today as both Kerkyra and Corfu. The name Corfu comes from an Italianized version of the Byzantine name Korufo. I use the pronunciation of "Korkyra" with an O because it reflects the more common version of the name as listed in ancient accounts - adherence to the original ancient version is also why I'm using Ks in place of any Latinized Cs. Essentially: I'm spelling everything the ancient way, but using modern Greek phonetics to sound out those words. It's an uncommon way to go about, but it feels like the right balance of ancient authenticity and modern linguistic continuity. -B
If I was a fool and didn’t love Blue’s delivery style, that line would have kept me watching. I am only a partial fool, and do love Blue’s delivery style, so I reveled in the line and kept watching.
@@derekskelton4187 nah Sparta is the dude in the corner who doesn't want to be there but will absolutely beat the shit out of any drunk dude who tries to fight him or even minorly annoys him.
Over two millenia later and that superiority complex is still (stereotypically) there among Athenians. Especially the ones who trace their family's lineage back to the 19th/early 20th century Athens, who consider themselves the "true" Athenians.
thats because where better (see the joke here is im greek and i was born and raised in athens so i will just leave this here in hopes someone will find this funny)
OH NOOOOOOOO!!! I have two girlfriends, but very few people on YT are happy for my relationship success. They disl*ke all of the videos I make with my 2 girlfriends. Please be kind, dear mi
@@hrach1384 In Greek Mythology, the Titan Kronos, or Chronos, overthrew Ouranos(who was head god at the time) by castrating him. In some tellings, his balls fell into the ocean, became sea foam, and that sea foam created Aphrodite.
Athens: "It's over Mytilene, I have the High Ground" Mytilene: "You underestimate my power" Athens: "Don't try it, I have the High Ground" *Mytileneian rebellion and Athens almost killing all the men* Athens: "You were my Debt-I mean Friend Mytilene, High Ground, why did you have to push me when I had the High Ground?" (I'm not sorry)
I read the mytilene part in Thucydides this weekend, Kleon’s speech is insane. I was sitting there like “uh, hey, this guys kind of sounding like a supervillain, are we gonna question that one?”
Apprently his name became a euphemism warmongering rulers, that in the "Song of Ice and Fire" (aka Game Thrones books), one of the freed slave cities was ruled by Cleon "The Butcher".
@@patrickfrost9405 Eh, I can't help but disagree with you on the 'delusional' thing. Kleon's speech gives off a lot of 'Make Athens Great Again' vibes what with his earnest desire to maintain Athen's Empire, contempt for discussion or 'cleverness', preference for rigid, unchanging opinions (including killing all the Mityneans), and its frustration with democracy being 'too compassionate.' Whether or not we personally consider Kleon Trumpian... the parallels do exist.
6:30 "Thucydides literally invented history" is a sentence that's surprisingly true, since Herodotus was more of a storyteller that wished to preserve said stories from fading into existence, while in turn Thucydides wrote history the way we define it today. That said, I wouldn't argue with the Romans as to who the father of history was 😄.
Yes and no. At least Herodotus travelled to various places and wrote what he saw and was told. He also always said to take it with a grain of salt when he was 100% sure, but people ignore this for some reason. Thucydides never travelled beyond Greece and only wrote about the War and the history of the parties involved.
@@ptlemon1101 You're absolutely correct; although Thucydides never travelling beyond Greece isn't necessarily a minus since that's where the war unfolded.
I LOVE this format, and how the outlying smaller cities helped to create the glorified image we read about. I'm so excited to learn more about other cities and their 'suburbs' in the future. Also, I am sort of hoping Blue gets to do a "detail diatribe" about architecture or a historical narrative.
I agree, a city can not stand without the surounding area, especially in the food department. So most cities are surounded by small port, fishing, and farming villages that grow into major suburbs and without them the "City Proper" definitely wouldn't exist ir be a strong as it was. So its really cool to learn about the "suburbs" as well, and seeing Athens' wall be essentially a dumbell is really cool and funny.
Oh yeah, agreed. Seeing the whole Athenian network at work summarized was very interesting. Hope Blue does more "city collections" like that in the future!
I really liked the format this time around! Swapping the focal points between each of the cities makes it really interesting, because you get to weave togeather the narrative of the larger empire while still getting to show off more of the niche elements. This could apply so well to so many places! Italy, the HRE, Japan, china, France, or legit like anywhere. All of them could have this same format applied and it would be super cool! Though honestly because you're not aiming for youtube shorts anymore you could probably drop the 1 minute per city restriction, or atleast be flexible with it, but that could go either way. Either way it rocks! You rock!
@@discountchocolate4577 this is just my personal opinion, but their pride still stands as the cause for some of the greatest athenian contributions to the world. no evidence here, but i would guess the way they recorded history in athens and china is different?? so that’s why the distinction is there. however, oral traditions in story telling i guess could be called history and same thing with cave paintings so i have no clue. ignore me lol
As a born and raised Athenian I feel flattered for this video but I have to say that I each region of Greece had and has very vibrant pieces of history to tell.
@@misamisaa4547 Yeah, it has the best utility of any swear word in Greek. Trying to call a friend? "Που είσαι ρε μαλάκα" ("Where are you you malaka") Trying to get in a fight? Again, you use it. Trying to show your surprise? You bet it's there!
This format is AMAZING for enterprising DMs looking to plagia... get inspiration from real world history. That double city fortress+shipyard complex is just *chef's kiss*
@@lorddaegoth If all it takes to be called a Diogenes is to define things by elimination, we must ask ourselves what our good boy from Sinop was doing in Russia in the 1930s with a sick 'stache and pipe.
Love this medium length form. Doesn't feel like you are going to pass out after giving the 60 speel. But it also is not a full 30+ commitment. It is a glancing blow about the city without skipping over everything
6:43 my thoughts about the first city-minutes were “wow this is really cool. I wish it was horizontal and longer/more in depth.” Though my insatiable appetite for history can *never* be satisfied, I definitely enjoyed this version and hope to see more
I mean....it also could of just been the super villan level of charisma he possed....and the mind control powers. Probably more the mind control powers.
I just wanted to say I’m a big fan of your videos! I especially like how open both you and Red are whenever it’s difficult to find sources and exact details for the topics you present, I really appreciate the level of honesty you have with your viewers. I really enjoy history and classic literature, so your channel has been an oasis for when I need to retreat and hear someone rant about how difficult the character of Loki is to define, or how Vienna stands (or floats) as a testament to the fact that some people live to spite the laws of nature. Thank you for everything you do for your viewers!
I definitely love you doing multiple shorts of different cities over a shorter period of time. Given how messy city-state politics can get, this seems like a great way to get a 3D picture of the situation without trying to stuff them all into a single narrative
I saw a new city minute and was halfway through typing a comment to ask if that meant the experiment went well, when I realized this was not a short lol I'd been considering trying shorts myself for educational writing content and was on the "no" side of the fence but still struggling with the decision, and your experience has answered all of my questions and settled my content woes. Thank you for being brave enough to give it a try! PS: As a desktop viewer I personally prefer this format 7000 times over, but as a creator shiny new features are shiny and I was tempted
This was very informative. Blue, if by some twist of fate you ever read this, just know I love your “ancient” history videos. Unfortunately, my college doesn’t offer in-depth classes on history before the 1500s or so, so your videos are a fun way to get more information on topics that my teachers have to rush through in class.
I'm glad it's longer (and horizontal), but I can't say I'd be overjoyed to see these taking over for full length videos. That said, I'm not paying for this in any way so you do you. Content's great as always, I just wish it weren't curtailed by a dumb format trend
My original thought when watching this one : Oh, so that's where Blue was going with this. The Short format didn't really stick on me the first times around, but this time, I'm really impatient for the next one. (If you can, review the cities named Alexandria !) Although I truly think this format works wonders as "reminders" or post-study summaries to jug the memory. I think that kind of thing help tremendously in making sure stuff sticks to the audience's brains in the long run. Congrats Blue on being able to drastically improve and take the criticism, that alone is quite the achievement. I think you're there now, you can feel free to keep going in that direction. Thanks :)
This video is awesome! I loved how you picked a theme (Athens and the Peloponnesian War) and explored many different cities with it. Athenian hubris, best in the world!
I loved it as always!!! Both formats are fine, the shorts were interesting as youtube stories and short blurbs of information, so I like that as well as this, but no real preference. Amazing work!!!
Thanks for mentioning Mytilene. I remember it as an anecdote but I didn't recall the city's name. The Athenians condemned the entire city to be wiped out and every citizen killed. The following morning, having come to their senses, at the insistence of the ambassador of Mytilene, the Athenias recalled the penalty but the problem was the courier had already been sent by trireme (or was it a bireme) the night before. The Mytilene ambassador went around the docks, offering extra payment for volunteer rowers and quickly, they set off in pursuit of the first ship. They did not allow for any rests, the crew were being fed good food and drink while still rowing. When they arrived at the condemned city, they found the first ship had already docked. The ambassador and the new Athenian courier hurried to the local Athenian garrisson, where they fortunately caught the garrisson having just been informed of the eradication order, but not having moved yet. This anecdote was mentioned to show how fast rowing triremes or biremes could be when they rowed non stop and the weather was good.
I like the format, my only hangup is the transitions between slices. I feel like the flow needs to be better for a longer form like this, because as it stands this just feels like a bunch of videos quickly stapled together. Otherwise great work, Blue
Loved the new format! And especially the city-by-city explanation of things that fed into the one city everyone knows about, because of COURSE it wasn't actually just Athens on its own, no matter what Athens wants to say about it.
@@lordtrigon1733 I went to a tiny small-town Class D (meaning little $$) school system. One if the high school teachers was a disgraced college professor (personally I think being an outspoken lesbian in the 70's was her "disgrace") who talked the admin into allowing both a semester of Shakespeare and Mythology (mostly Greek, a little Norse) to the "college prep" curriculum. She certainly knew her Shakespeare but not her mythology. They were fun courses tho. To give you an idea of the average student, when the career counselor asked if we knew what a pharmacist was, one kid said "yeah that's the guy my dad hired to work on the farm" and half the class agreed. "These are simple farmers. People of the land, the common clave. You know... morons."
It's always fun learning about the history of any given city or nation. But Blue, I feel like I have to say this, take a break from Greece, Italy, and the Roman Empire, everyone seems to talk about them to some degree, especially Greece and Rome, so maybe take a break from what we consider the foundations of the western world for a bit and take a look into Chinese and Japanese history, maybe take some time to look Celtic history a bit (there have been quite a few developments in our understanding of the Celts and just where they came from in the past few years). And as much fun as it is to hear you gush about Greek, Roman, and Italian architecture, I feel like you're missing out on discovering the technical achievements the Celts and Japanese made in their building efforts. While the Celts didn't seem to have a refined of a building process as Greece and Rome, they still managed to pull off some feats of building that people are still trying to work out the processes of today. And as for Japanese architecture, there is something to be said about building ways to keep your structures standing well into an earthquake that modern architects in Japan are doing their best to recreate with a modern twist, and that's to say nothing about how fast the ancient Japanese could seemingly get entire towns back up after a fire. To address the Japanese culture side of things, see what you can do about getting Gaijin Goombah in on things, he has two channels on UA-cam dedicated to better informing people about Japanese culture. Also, in the way Blue gushes about architecture, Gaijin Goombah is practically unapologetic in how he gushes about historical shinobi (better known as ninjas to the rest of us) and has a whole series where he analyzes ninja, and ninja-like, characters see just how well they stand up to how genuine shinobi those individual characters do, and quite a few might surprise in authentic to genuine shinobi practices they are.
I enjoyed this version of city minutes! Since the video was a bit longer you were able to go into the details about each of Athens "allies". But I was a bit confused about the map at first since I didn't know where those smaller islands but I was able to figure it out by the end. Anyway I'm looking forward to the next episode in this series!
The thing about the Parthenon being a treasury is a major point in Aristophane's antiwar satire "Lysistrata", because the women take power by seizing the Parthenon. The more you know.
“You know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
So uhhhhh,,, I was listening to one of the older podcasts earlier (9 or 10, maybe?) because I listen when I draw, and at the end one of the questions was about your music tastes, and both of you mentioned miracle of sound. My experience with that was You Died, which is a really cool song but I’ve always associated it with video games, so when you mentioned it and the The Tail of Cu Chulainn I wasn’t expected it. Anyway, the point here is it’s really GOOD and COOL and I’m HAPPY YOU MENTIONED IT. NOW HAVE A GOOD DAY.
Thank you Blue for your lovely information dumps. I never thought I'd be one to learn about history of my own accord. You and Red make it enjoyable though. So thanks. 🤗
I really like these history videos because their easier for me to follow. I’ve never been good at keeping track of history so I’m really glad you make these
Fun linguistic shenanigans: The island of Korkyra (commonly spelled Corcyra when referring to the ancient city) is known today as both Kerkyra and Corfu. The name Corfu comes from an Italianized version of the Byzantine name Korufo.
I use the pronunciation of "Korkyra" with an O because it reflects the more common version of the name as listed in ancient accounts - adherence to the original ancient version is also why I'm using Ks in place of any Latinized Cs.
Essentially: I'm spelling everything the ancient way, but using modern Greek phonetics to sound out those words. It's an uncommon way to go about, but it feels like the right balance of ancient authenticity and modern linguistic continuity.
-B
That's fair.
Uh hey Red and Blue i already posted the comment in your latest post not the video about a idea about the time heist
Hope you read the comment
So... Piraeus. Is there any linguistic connection to pirate? Or is this another Zagreaus situation?
I have no idea what he said, but cool! 👍
When will you continue with journey to the west?
"the annoying thing about athenians is that there almost as great as they say they are" is an amazing line
Not only a great line. A very true line
they're*
And a lie.
Can confirm. I’m descended from Spartans
If I was a fool and didn’t love Blue’s delivery style, that line would have kept me watching. I am only a partial fool, and do love Blue’s delivery style, so I reveled in the line and kept watching.
Athens was that guy who wouldn't let people forget about how great they are
And Sparta is the guy going on about how tough he is, and always trying to fight everybody
@@derekskelton4187 nah Sparta is the dude in the corner who doesn't want to be there but will absolutely beat the shit out of any drunk dude who tries to fight him or even minorly annoys him.
@@colespradlin6994 That was younger sparta
So... They're a business major.
Hey! You should not compare Athens to me, they deserve more respect!
"Diss the fleet, get the yeet!"
*British Empire* : Write that down, write that down!
British Empire: Now would everyone stop shipping slaves?!
I always wonder, who exactly are people talking to write that down?
@@carlosroo5460 Their scribes, of course. Don't you have one?
@@carlosroo5460 it’s a spongebob reference haha
@@shadowling77777 You realize its a joke correct?
All other Greeks: Can't you do something about your superiority complex?
Athenians: *But I'm superior.*
Over two millenia later and that superiority complex is still (stereotypically) there among Athenians. Especially the ones who trace their family's lineage back to the 19th/early 20th century Athens, who consider themselves the "true" Athenians.
Athens: Yes, I am both superior and complex. What will I do about it? Spread like peanut butter, baybee!
Athens: *flies too close to the sun*
Bakugou in a nutshell
@@Mazou-tj4ne Ka-chan is Athens confirmed.
thats because where better (see the joke here is im greek and i was born and raised in athens so i will just leave this here in hopes someone will find this funny)
*Athens:* "What do you mean, 'my hubris isn't good enough'?! Look at my hubris! My hubris is the best in the world!!"
OH NOOOOOOOO!!! I have two girlfriends, but very few people on YT are happy for my relationship success. They disl*ke all of the videos I make with my 2 girlfriends. Please be kind, dear mi
Good lord
@@AxxLAfriku sftu, you're making the rest of us polys look bad
_Look at my fleet_
_My fleet is amazing_
Why do I hear Red saying that in my head?
"In a surprising twist of fate, other cities also had Navy's"
I laughed so hard at this
navies*
The glowing eye triggered meme is my kryptonite
Last time I was this early Ouranos still had a pair.
Lol! Nice one. Last time I laughed this hard at a comment Zeus wasn’t a philandering ass…. That is to say never.
TOO SOON. XDDD
Please help me spread the message of calling the planet Ouranos, so people will stop staying Urine-us as a way to avoid butt jokes.
@@hrach1384 In Greek Mythology, the Titan Kronos, or Chronos, overthrew Ouranos(who was head god at the time) by castrating him. In some tellings, his balls fell into the ocean, became sea foam, and that sea foam created Aphrodite.
Lol
"As iron is eaten away by rust, so the envious are consumed by their own passion"
- Antisthenes
@this comment section
Athens just would not let people forget they had the highground.
Athens: "It's over Mytilene, I have the High Ground"
Mytilene: "You underestimate my power"
Athens: "Don't try it, I have the High Ground"
*Mytileneian rebellion and Athens almost killing all the men*
Athens: "You were my Debt-I mean Friend Mytilene, High Ground, why did you have to push me when I had the High Ground?"
(I'm not sorry)
As a PG-13 Production, Revenge of the Sith is allowed one F-Bomb.
"F*** YOU ANAKIN, I have the high ground!"
Nothing wrong with telling people you had the High Ground.
oddly reminiscent of the us tbh
She definitely had the high ground alright. But she really underestimated the power of Sparta.
I read the mytilene part in Thucydides this weekend, Kleon’s speech is insane. I was sitting there like “uh, hey, this guys kind of sounding like a supervillain, are we gonna question that one?”
Apprently his name became a euphemism warmongering rulers, that in the "Song of Ice and Fire" (aka Game Thrones books), one of the freed slave cities was ruled by Cleon "The Butcher".
He was the Donald Trump of Ancient Greece.
@@Mazou-tj4ne Only if you're delusional.
@@patrickfrost9405 Eh, I can't help but disagree with you on the 'delusional' thing. Kleon's speech gives off a lot of 'Make Athens Great Again' vibes what with his earnest desire to maintain Athen's Empire, contempt for discussion or 'cleverness', preference for rigid, unchanging opinions (including killing all the Mityneans), and its frustration with democracy being 'too compassionate.' Whether or not we personally consider Kleon Trumpian... the parallels do exist.
@@korayven9255your TDS is showing.
6:30 "Thucydides literally invented history" is a sentence that's surprisingly true, since Herodotus was more of a storyteller that wished to preserve said stories from fading into existence, while in turn Thucydides wrote history the way we define it today. That said, I wouldn't argue with the Romans as to who the father of history was 😄.
Yes and no. At least Herodotus travelled to various places and wrote what he saw and was told. He also always said to take it with a grain of salt when he was 100% sure, but people ignore this for some reason. Thucydides never travelled beyond Greece and only wrote about the War and the history of the parties involved.
@@ptlemon1101 You're absolutely correct; although Thucydides never travelling beyond Greece isn't necessarily a minus since that's where the war unfolded.
We could maybe define Herodotus as the first Anthropologist, though he did describe the history of the Persian War so...
In college I heard Herodotus regularly referred to as "The gossip columnist of the ancient world."
Attempting to argue with the romans over the merit or value of anything made by the greek is a bad idea.
I LOVE this format, and how the outlying smaller cities helped to create the glorified image we read about. I'm so excited to learn more about other cities and their 'suburbs' in the future. Also, I am sort of hoping Blue gets to do a "detail diatribe" about architecture or a historical narrative.
I agree, a city can not stand without the surounding area, especially in the food department. So most cities are surounded by small port, fishing, and farming villages that grow into major suburbs and without them the "City Proper" definitely wouldn't exist ir be a strong as it was.
So its really cool to learn about the "suburbs" as well, and seeing Athens' wall be essentially a dumbell is really cool and funny.
Oh yeah, agreed. Seeing the whole Athenian network at work summarized was very interesting. Hope Blue does more "city collections" like that in the future!
I really liked the format this time around! Swapping the focal points between each of the cities makes it really interesting, because you get to weave togeather the narrative of the larger empire while still getting to show off more of the niche elements. This could apply so well to so many places! Italy, the HRE, Japan, china, France, or legit like anywhere. All of them could have this same format applied and it would be super cool! Though honestly because you're not aiming for youtube shorts anymore you could probably drop the 1 minute per city restriction, or atleast be flexible with it, but that could go either way.
Either way it rocks! You rock!
Not sure what else to add to this, so just going to say this is my answer too.
"Diss the Fleet.
Get the Yeet."
~Cultured Athenian
*suddenly materializes* “WHO SUMMONED ME”
Eric
I'm a busy man. Don't anger me. I warned you!
@@merlinmeurer5339 *pulls out bat covered in tasers* “Where?”
Wtf is this comment and reply chain
@@thatoneguy6466 don’t ask questions, your time already started
"The literally invented history so we wouldn't forget about them" is probably the biggest flex ever XD
Didn't Chinese historians already exist by the time -5th century Greeks started writing historical texts?
It's certainly the biggest flex in History, at least.
@@discountchocolate4577 this is just my personal opinion, but their pride still stands as the cause for some of the greatest athenian contributions to the world. no evidence here, but i would guess the way they recorded history in athens and china is different?? so that’s why the distinction is there. however, oral traditions in story telling i guess could be called history and same thing with cave paintings so i have no clue. ignore me lol
I think blue is in a time loop that always begins with covering Athens
I always like learning about history
Amazing, isn't it?
@@taylorleeforcongress8470 It sure is
No wonder so many ancient myths and stories are about "fall due to excess hubris" they were all jelly of Aethens and was what happened to them
They might have been written by Athenians, though
As a born and raised Athenian I feel flattered for this video but I have to say that I each region of Greece had and has very vibrant pieces of history to tell.
I really like this format, as the shorts were like delicious hors d'oeuvres, while these longer video are like equally delicious meals :)
Athens: “we have the best navy! NO ONE Can beat us.”
Me and Kasandra: “try us malaka!”
*MALAKA!* intensifies
Damn that was funny Μαλακα
I know exactly 1 word in Greek and it's the most useful one xD
@@misamisaa4547 Yeah, it has the best utility of any swear word in Greek.
Trying to call a friend? "Που είσαι ρε μαλάκα" ("Where are you you malaka")
Trying to get in a fight? Again, you use it.
Trying to show your surprise? You bet it's there!
@@Lunictd is it basically the Greek kurwa then?
0:29 I can just hear Red voicing "our hubris wasn't big enough! We have to go BIGGER!"
0:44 (Red’s voice) “It’s time for another ~deep thoughts with Heinlein~”
“Cannibalism… is actually fine.”
“Agnes is like that because Freud was right about everything.”
Why not: "Imperialism is fine because we are the good guys."
@@blueteller And anyone who disagrees is brainwashed.
This format is AMAZING for enterprising DMs looking to plagia... get inspiration from real world history. That double city fortress+shipyard complex is just *chef's kiss*
Greek Mythology: Don't do Hubris, kids
Athens: I'm going to pretend I didn't see that
How to make something Athenian:
- Make it gorgeous
- Make it petty
- Make Blue like it
Well, we just have to learn if Cyan is petty, and then we'll have confirmation Blue married/is about to marry an Athenian.
@@samrevlej9331 Calm down, Diogenes
@@lorddaegoth If all it takes to be called a Diogenes is to define things by elimination, we must ask ourselves what our good boy from Sinop was doing in Russia in the 1930s with a sick 'stache and pipe.
That wouldn't distinguish it from being Venetian though.
@@samrevlej9331 I mean....he light weight compared her to the beauty of the Roman road system...so.....
Love this medium length form. Doesn't feel like you are going to pass out after giving the 60 speel. But it also is not a full 30+ commitment. It is a glancing blow about the city without skipping over everything
6:43 my thoughts about the first city-minutes were “wow this is really cool. I wish it was horizontal and longer/more in depth.” Though my insatiable appetite for history can *never* be satisfied, I definitely enjoyed this version and hope to see more
After watching The Owl House and this video, I think I’m starting to develop a rational fear of Owls and Owl-related things.
But... Hooty
The only owl I fear is Duolingo /hj
@@lclrc16 All hail the benevolent ruler Doulingo.
Soon the human race shall submit to its all-mightly rule
Meanwhile, those of us who are old enough knew this already from that time the owls came for our Tootsie Roll Pops.
@@zenogias01 "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?"
Blue: Starts City Minutes to be 1 minute long
Athens? SEVEN MINUTES
Me: So when did things start going sideways?
History: Well there are a few factors...
*Alcibiades has entered the chat... And your pants*
I mean, he IS totally gorgeous
I mean....it also could of just been the super villan level of charisma he possed....and the mind control powers. Probably more the mind control powers.
Athenians thought they were the main character, and they kinda were
They’re like the proto-example of “you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
I love the longer format there’s so much more information
You're right Blue, this is a much better format for City Minutes
I just wanted to say I’m a big fan of your videos! I especially like how open both you and Red are whenever it’s difficult to find sources and exact details for the topics you present, I really appreciate the level of honesty you have with your viewers. I really enjoy history and classic literature, so your channel has been an oasis for when I need to retreat and hear someone rant about how difficult the character of Loki is to define, or how Vienna stands (or floats) as a testament to the fact that some people live to spite the laws of nature. Thank you for everything you do for your viewers!
This format is really nice! A whole bunch of city minutes strung together to form a narrative feels right at home with everything else on this channel
Britain: exists
Athens: My true successor
wait I think you’re on to something here...!
I definitely love you doing multiple shorts of different cities over a shorter period of time. Given how messy city-state politics can get, this seems like a great way to get a 3D picture of the situation without trying to stuff them all into a single narrative
Absolutely love that y’all do classics related videos from time to time
I've been binging everything on this channel for 3 days. I can't stop.
OSP: *releases a video*
Me: *liking video intensifies*
Sparta: "You use your port as way to sustain your population? This is illegal!"
Athens: "Illegal? THIS IS ATHENS!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
>Athens! Is that... legal?!
>I WILL MAKE IT LEGAL.
I saw a new city minute and was halfway through typing a comment to ask if that meant the experiment went well, when I realized this was not a short lol I'd been considering trying shorts myself for educational writing content and was on the "no" side of the fence but still struggling with the decision, and your experience has answered all of my questions and settled my content woes. Thank you for being brave enough to give it a try!
PS: As a desktop viewer I personally prefer this format 7000 times over, but as a creator shiny new features are shiny and I was tempted
I liked this format a lot! I kinda wish they were even longer tbh, but that's mostly because I love your videos so much 👉👈
Honestly I hardly noticed this was less than 10 minutes, it felt way longer than it actually was and I really love this new series and format
Yes, I like this better than the other shorts. Thanks for making it more interconnected!
Love this format, much better than the shorts, please continue with it
Ah Athens
The Greek Britain that constantly stares out into the distance thinking about stuff
with only marginally less navy-based arse kicking
Excellent evolution from the short format, well done!
I definitely appreciate this change in format. Yay for the longer, horizontal videos!
Very much appreciate combine previous talking points in the same subject into one segment.
This was very informative. Blue, if by some twist of fate you ever read this, just know I love your “ancient” history videos. Unfortunately, my college doesn’t offer in-depth classes on history before the 1500s or so, so your videos are a fun way to get more information on topics that my teachers have to rush through in class.
I'm glad it's longer (and horizontal), but I can't say I'd be overjoyed to see these taking over for full length videos. That said, I'm not paying for this in any way so you do you.
Content's great as always, I just wish it weren't curtailed by a dumb format trend
I greatly appreciate this new version of City Minutes. Please more.
Yes this version of city minutes is so nice
Way better this time around. And adding the surrounding city info really helped contextualize it
My original thought when watching this one : Oh, so that's where Blue was going with this. The Short format didn't really stick on me the first times around, but this time, I'm really impatient for the next one. (If you can, review the cities named Alexandria !) Although I truly think this format works wonders as "reminders" or post-study summaries to jug the memory. I think that kind of thing help tremendously in making sure stuff sticks to the audience's brains in the long run.
Congrats Blue on being able to drastically improve and take the criticism, that alone is quite the achievement. I think you're there now, you can feel free to keep going in that direction.
Thanks :)
Very cool, much prefer the longer format
I like the format, it’s nice to see the pieces come together
This video is awesome! I loved how you picked a theme (Athens and the Peloponnesian War) and explored many different cities with it.
Athenian hubris, best in the world!
I loved it as always!!! Both formats are fine, the shorts were interesting as youtube stories and short blurbs of information, so I like that as well as this, but no real preference. Amazing work!!!
Athens, the city that was also its own Greek tragedy.
Thanks for mentioning Mytilene.
I remember it as an anecdote but I didn't recall the city's name.
The Athenians condemned the entire city to be wiped out and every citizen killed.
The following morning, having come to their senses, at the insistence of the ambassador of Mytilene, the Athenias recalled the penalty but the problem was the courier had already been sent by trireme (or was it a bireme) the night before.
The Mytilene ambassador went around the docks, offering extra payment for volunteer rowers and quickly, they set off in pursuit of the first ship.
They did not allow for any rests, the crew were being fed good food and drink while still rowing.
When they arrived at the condemned city, they found the first ship had already docked. The ambassador and the new Athenian courier hurried to the local Athenian garrisson, where they fortunately caught the garrisson having just been informed of the eradication order, but not having moved yet.
This anecdote was mentioned to show how fast rowing triremes or biremes could be when they rowed non stop and the weather was good.
I like the format, my only hangup is the transitions between slices. I feel like the flow needs to be better for a longer form like this, because as it stands this just feels like a bunch of videos quickly stapled together.
Otherwise great work, Blue
This was a great short, Blue! Clear, concise, and well researched.
Excellent video, Blue. Love the new format!
Loved the new format! And especially the city-by-city explanation of things that fed into the one city everyone knows about, because of COURSE it wasn't actually just Athens on its own, no matter what Athens wants to say about it.
As someone who played assassin's creed odyssey all of this places are coming back to my memory like I was there
My high school Mythology teacher: ancient Greece was pacifist and philosophical
Blue: hold on a minute
Wow, your mythology teacher didn't actually read any history, did they?
*every single myth include rape, brutal murders, cruel and unusual torture or a mix of the 3*
Teacher: pacifist and philosophical.
Your high school had a mythology class?
@@lordtrigon1733 I went to a tiny small-town Class D (meaning little $$) school system. One if the high school teachers was a disgraced college professor (personally I think being an outspoken lesbian in the 70's was her "disgrace") who talked the admin into allowing both a semester of Shakespeare and Mythology (mostly Greek, a little Norse) to the "college prep" curriculum. She certainly knew her Shakespeare but not her mythology. They were fun courses tho.
To give you an idea of the average student, when the career counselor asked if we knew what a pharmacist was, one kid said "yeah that's the guy my dad hired to work on the farm" and half the class agreed.
"These are simple farmers. People of the land, the common clave. You know... morons."
"Ancient Greece was pacifist" is either the ballsiest lie or the most blatant admission of ignorance you can utter
This is so fascinating! I feel like I got really good look at Athens in the time it took to eat my breakfast cereal, A++ perfect content
I like it! It keeps the shorter format but gives us plenty of fun history
yes! i've been waiting for this since the podcast! and the chapter function! you used it! woo!
It's always fun learning about the history of any given city or nation. But Blue, I feel like I have to say this, take a break from Greece, Italy, and the Roman Empire, everyone seems to talk about them to some degree, especially Greece and Rome, so maybe take a break from what we consider the foundations of the western world for a bit and take a look into Chinese and Japanese history, maybe take some time to look Celtic history a bit (there have been quite a few developments in our understanding of the Celts and just where they came from in the past few years). And as much fun as it is to hear you gush about Greek, Roman, and Italian architecture, I feel like you're missing out on discovering the technical achievements the Celts and Japanese made in their building efforts. While the Celts didn't seem to have a refined of a building process as Greece and Rome, they still managed to pull off some feats of building that people are still trying to work out the processes of today. And as for Japanese architecture, there is something to be said about building ways to keep your structures standing well into an earthquake that modern architects in Japan are doing their best to recreate with a modern twist, and that's to say nothing about how fast the ancient Japanese could seemingly get entire towns back up after a fire.
To address the Japanese culture side of things, see what you can do about getting Gaijin Goombah in on things, he has two channels on UA-cam dedicated to better informing people about Japanese culture. Also, in the way Blue gushes about architecture, Gaijin Goombah is practically unapologetic in how he gushes about historical shinobi (better known as ninjas to the rest of us) and has a whole series where he analyzes ninja, and ninja-like, characters see just how well they stand up to how genuine shinobi those individual characters do, and quite a few might surprise in authentic to genuine shinobi practices they are.
This is beautiful. And yet another series for you to pour your passion for the subject in to my brain.
Honestly love the format of the video.
I would watch a 2 hour osp about almost anything just to listen to you guys talk. so go ahead and make whatever is most interesting to you
Like the idea of having the shorts all packed into a longer run after the topic has run just to allow for simplification
I really like this format, thank you!
I enjoyed this version of city minutes! Since the video was a bit longer you were able to go into the details about each of Athens "allies". But I was a bit confused about the map at first since I didn't know where those smaller islands but I was able to figure it out by the end. Anyway I'm looking forward to the next episode in this series!
The thing about the Parthenon being a treasury is a major point in Aristophane's antiwar satire "Lysistrata", because the women take power by seizing the Parthenon. The more you know.
Love the format now! Thanks! 😄
I love this series! I'm currently world building, and a quick guide to how cities work together in the real world is so cool!!!
“You know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
One is stuck playing the impassioned protagonist in one’s Subjective Narrative of Self🎈
I understand all of those words seperately
“Everybody is the hero of their own story?
Loved the longer, wider format :)
Great video, Blue! I love this format. Keep it up!
So uhhhhh,,, I was listening to one of the older podcasts earlier (9 or 10, maybe?) because I listen when I draw, and at the end one of the questions was about your music tastes, and both of you mentioned miracle of sound. My experience with that was You Died, which is a really cool song but I’ve always associated it with video games, so when you mentioned it and the The Tail of Cu Chulainn I wasn’t expected it. Anyway, the point here is it’s really GOOD and COOL and I’m HAPPY YOU MENTIONED IT.
NOW HAVE A GOOD DAY.
It's always a good day when Overly posts a new video.
Tip to improve next time:
Nothing, this was awesome. Well done Blue :)
I would love a City Minutes on Nuremberg, focusing on literally any time prior to German unification.
Your history videos are always a pleasure
Great video Blue! Informative and funny as always
Thank you Blue for your lovely information dumps. I never thought I'd be one to learn about history of my own accord. You and Red make it enjoyable though. So thanks. 🤗
Great can't wait to see the next city minutes
Much better and very fun. Thank you, Blue!
I really like these history videos because their easier for me to follow. I’ve never been good at keeping track of history so I’m really glad you make these
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@@taylorleeforcongress8470 can you not
@@deerosprey7117 Sure. Just helping.
Love the format now! Very informative
It was really nice of Athens to not do a genocide on Mytilene.
Tell that to poor Milians