The 30 Tyrants | The Fall of Athens
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Athens is world renowned for its ancient democracy, however with its defeat at the end of the Peloponnesian War this ancestral constitution is threatened with tyranny. But how did Athens lose the war? In this video we'll explore the chaotic times of stasis between oligarchy and democracy that eventually led to their perilous position in 404 BCE.
Sources:
Thucydides 8.45 - 8.98
Aristotle. Constitution of Athens. 29 - 34
Xenophon Hellenica 2.2.10 - 2.4.43
Lysias. 12 “Against Eratosthenes”
Diodorus Siculus 13.36 - 14.4
Stem, R.,
2003 The Thirty at Athens in the Summer of 404, The Classical Association of Canada, Vol. 57, No. 1, pp. 18 - 34.
LeCaire, L.,
2013 Tyranny and terror: the failure of Athenian
democracy and the reign of the Thirty Tyrants, EWU Masters
Thesis Collection. 179. dc.ewu.edu/theses/
Kagan, D.,
1987 The Fall of the Athenian Empire, Cornell University Press, London.
Krentz, P.,
2009 The Arginousai Affair, in R. B. Strassler, The Landmark Xenophon’s Hellenica, Pantheon Books, London,
Krentz, P.,
2009 The Athenian Government and the Oligarchy of the Thirty, in R. B. Strassler, The Landmark Xenophon’s Hellenica, Pantheon Books, London,
Chapters:
0:00 The Surrender of Athens
3:10 Stasis in Athens
5:03 The Coup of 411 BCE
8:32 The Argounisai Affair
12:10 The Installation of the 30
lmao ur drawing of the mad lad chad Alcibiades @ 6:08 is perfect
This channel is vastly underappreciated! I hope to see this keep going.
3:43
me and the boys conspiring
Great piece of the Peloponnesian War to cover! And very well told in the time that you did. Imagine, an HBO series on the Peloponnesian War. How incredible could that potentially be! Long live Thrasybulus!!
Great work, again! Wonderful seeing another creator promoting the awesome Armchair Historian website.
Excellent! Glad to have a second history series on here! Keep up the good work!
I see that you almost directly quoted the ancient sources on the terms given to the athenians by the spartans and Corinthians, i can tell because i had to learn to translate them by heart
Greetings from Sparta ,Tennessee
Is there a sparta in tenesse?
Konstantinos Mpoudronikolas about halfway between Nashville and Knoxville
@@Plirgles aw ok
@Ulysses strange There's an Athens in Georgia
@Ulysses strange There are many Athens in the USA
good stuff. Always curious about this moment in history
Nice video! Conincidentally, I have to give a presentation about the 30 in my intro to ancient history class. Nice timing ;)
Good luck with it!
Man your videos are really good and packed full of interesting information. Most of your art and animation is great. Your close up maps are really strong but the larger area one's are slightly confusing.
You have the lands edge marked and the various colours to indicate who's who etc but the mountains that aren't clear and look a bit like funny blobs of colour under the main map makes seeing which area is which and separating what's land and what isn't confusing. Look at 9:53 for an example. I'm sure on a big enough screen they're fine but on a phone as I was using it got difficult at times to know what was the edge of the islands and what was signifying which city had dominance or not.
yay, new video.
Please consider making a video on prevailing myths, legends, and fables about Alexander the Great? Not to debunk or confirm them, but just a video filled with stories for a good popcorn session.
I was hoping to make such a series as a mini series to Alexander but sadly that is a while away
@@ArchaiaHistoria No hurry, at least you noticed the suggestion. It can sit on the back burner until then.
wonderful explanation. Thank you so much..
Thanks, glad you liked it
@@ArchaiaHistoria always welcome sir 😊
What happened to this channel? It is amazing, please more content!
It’s in the works!
Awesome
Hi Everyone!
For those of you that want want to check the music for the entire episode, feel free to follow the link at the bottom of the comment!
It was a such a pleasure composing for Archaia Istoria's The 30 tyrants!
I have a lot of fun writing these pieces and I really hope it enhances your experience.
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PS. Alcebiades sad face should be a t-shirt
3:45 Me and the boy thought Philip part 6 was upload
3:53 Me and the boy saw it wasn't.....
Don’t worry it is in the works!
History repeats itself
Did anyone notice how the oligarchs are portrayed as the bois meme?
10:37 bro what the heck with the inscription on the tombstone
Alcibiaded is voiced by the guy who did Lionel Hutz from the Simpsons
finally
Are you done with Phillip II of Macedon, or do you plan on doing a part 6?
I will finish Philip but things take time sadly
@@ArchaiaHistoria All good things take time. You produce great content; looking forward to your next video. (no matter what the subject might be)
I didn't know that Jay Leno was an Athenian 😂
10:34 did you type 'he was really cool' on google translate?
I tried to fix the translation but google translate is terrible
@@ArchaiaHistoria Eh,its fine,it makes it even funnier.
Mission accomplished then!
My boy has sponsers now? Thats whats up!
So odd to me that not only did both sides either attempt to or actually receive Persian aid but they fought mostly on opposite side of the Aegean.
Why did more of the conflict not take place in Greece? And why did the league and sparta or Athens not march on each others city states but fought what might essentially for many of the battles be a proxy war of sorts. It seemed more a persian proxy war than anything, the objectives don’t make sense.
Then again I’m not in ancient greece with first hand knowledge of what occurred.
ευχαριστώ / Thanks
Is your voice different to usual?
Perhaps? I got a new microphone recently so maybe it’s clearer now
02:34 This is not the Spartan way,greetings from a Spartan in Athens
This yall, idk who the 30 but this is it ! Lol
thank you for letting me pass my test 🧎🏻♀️
That’s fantastic to hear!
I started watching this video. Realized I didn’t know a thing about the war. Watch a video from Epimestheus about it then returned you actually talk about the war in the end, lol.
Well at least now you’re a pro on the Peloponnesian war!
Im not even going to watch this becauae i dont have time but id like everyone who views this to consider the possibility that it was actually the democracy that killed Athens and that any strength and vitality it had came from the times when it was a monarchy and aristocracy.
RIP
omg all the history channels i love are on that webstite
"Either demolish the walls or welcome oligarchy."
"Okay I guess we will beat around the bush and eventually welcome oligarchy."
"Okay now you are an oligarchy, and we are demolishing those walls."
"Huh?"
"That 'huh?' Means you enjoy prison. Huh?"
Usually oligarchies in ancient Greece werent violent .however those 30 were brutal
It reminds me of russian history. Tyrants constantly ruling and while each had different ideas and methods, it was still tyranny.
Sokrates defended Young Alcibiade after this One was accused of mocking the Gods... And the punishment was not death but ostrakon... Anyway Alcibiade betryed Athena for Persians... He ended dead by them ...
Polises... The Curse for Aheeians ( Danaos & hellenic) or better know by the romans given name of Greece & Greeks...never ending feuds among them... Still a gift from Gods...
3:54 The boys remake
M'screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech
Glorious
Who the fuck is Νταβός (Davos)?
Poor Davos
Thailand is the best
Ummmmmmmmmm ok?