23:30 There's attempted lethal here in a few ways You can use Kaito to stun pre-combat and you can play the EE and pop it for 2 to clear the bowmaster and attack for lethal. Or you can plus the kaito to make it a 4/5 and then force them to trade, and hold up the EE, or use the EE again to clear the bowmaster making the attack lethal. I presume they are holding up stifle (edit: turns out they are), they are playing like they have it the last couple of turns. But you lose almost nothing by testing that by using a fetch, or even just using the kaito and seeing if they stifle it. But I think it's right to try it given there seems to be almost no downside. I think the lesson is to decide what you're doing with your Kaito before you go to combat.
@1:13 Without looking at his full list, lands generally plays 1 GQ and multiple loams, you are better bombing the GQ later (or a saga, etc) though you weren't punished here, still was the wrong play IMO.
Love the almost full on podcast at the end of the video. I often skip the gameplay part of videos just watching the intros and the outro to get the take about the deck Can I recommend you to play some of my lists ? I have 2 controls piles that I find pretty good in the format and I would love to get some others opinion on it
That's a very hindsight response. In the dark with multiple things to do with black mana, it's just as likely to miss on lands after shuffling with ponder compared to what happened in the video
Yeah, I agree. I always fetch Underground Sea play Nethergoyf in that spot. That's strong against Wasteland as well. I don't think seizing turn 1 in the dark is a winning line compared to getting a threat on board.
R3, G2 against UB tempo - why not to take a Brainstorm with Thougtseize? Their hand was double wasteland (kinda irrelevant imo at that time), push, spellbomb (irrelevant) and brainstorm. They ripped Kaito off the top but they could easily Brainstorm and dig 3 cards deeper and still find it. Taking push to protect double Tamiyo imo wasn't worth the risk of then reloading a hand. Ups, should've been a new comment.
@@tuebo-chasse6037 There was no protection in hand! Against a large portion of the metagame, a portion this deck is inherently weak to, playing goyf over thoughtsieze opens up immediately losing to Oops, Necro, Echo, Reanimation, chalice, trinisphere, bloodmoon, doomsday, etc where as only have 1 colored land means a single wasteland is backbreaking. Losing due to variance after a set of bad draws has to be better than losing on the spot because you wanted to get in one extra attack with a 2 power goyf
23:30
There's attempted lethal here in a few ways
You can use Kaito to stun pre-combat and you can play the EE and pop it for 2 to clear the bowmaster and attack for lethal.
Or you can plus the kaito to make it a 4/5 and then force them to trade, and hold up the EE, or use the EE again to clear the bowmaster making the attack lethal.
I presume they are holding up stifle (edit: turns out they are), they are playing like they have it the last couple of turns. But you lose almost nothing by testing that by using a fetch, or even just using the kaito and seeing if they stifle it. But I think it's right to try it given there seems to be almost no downside.
I think the lesson is to decide what you're doing with your Kaito before you go to combat.
Round 2 game 1 turn 2 put nihil spellbomb on top of library after casting brainstorm to protect it from discard
@1:13 Without looking at his full list, lands generally plays 1 GQ and multiple loams, you are better bombing the GQ later (or a saga, etc) though you weren't punished here, still was the wrong play IMO.
Love the almost full on podcast at the end of the video. I often skip the gameplay part of videos just watching the intros and the outro to get the take about the deck
Can I recommend you to play some of my lists ? I have 2 controls piles that I find pretty good in the format and I would love to get some others opinion on it
Sure - if you want to post lists I can give feedback. I'm glad you're digging the banter :)
Fistful of Dollars is actually a western remake of Yojimbo. If you watch both of them in a short span of time it's very obvious.
Awesome. I wasn't sure which came first. Love them both.
BGoyf-put me in coach!
Haha BGoyf is OK goyf. I think Murk is better and I'd play that first.
Hmm tempo decks kind of have an easier time winning quickly then control
Indeed.
I disagree on grabbing the swamp on game 1.
That's a very hindsight response. In the dark with multiple things to do with black mana, it's just as likely to miss on lands after shuffling with ponder compared to what happened in the video
Yeah, I agree. I always fetch Underground Sea play Nethergoyf in that spot. That's strong against Wasteland as well. I don't think seizing turn 1 in the dark is a winning line compared to getting a threat on board.
@@NormalTheBand well you can't know if it was in hindsight or not, however, i can definetly say that was what i thought when he was fetching.
R3, G2 against UB tempo - why not to take a Brainstorm with Thougtseize? Their hand was double wasteland (kinda irrelevant imo at that time), push, spellbomb (irrelevant) and brainstorm. They ripped Kaito off the top but they could easily Brainstorm and dig 3 cards deeper and still find it. Taking push to protect double Tamiyo imo wasn't worth the risk of then reloading a hand.
Ups, should've been a new comment.
@@tuebo-chasse6037 There was no protection in hand! Against a large portion of the metagame, a portion this deck is inherently weak to, playing goyf over thoughtsieze opens up immediately losing to Oops, Necro, Echo, Reanimation, chalice, trinisphere, bloodmoon, doomsday, etc where as only have 1 colored land means a single wasteland is backbreaking. Losing due to variance after a set of bad draws has to be better than losing on the spot because you wanted to get in one extra attack with a 2 power goyf
Love the Video, pls test barrowgoyf too in the main :) its my fav card
Awesome. I may play it in the future.