Old tracks of the Sunset limited Amtrak train riding on Railcart - Arizona US. (PART 1)
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2025
- Tour on my ZORRITO Railcart from Gillespie Arizona to near Papago Arizona. passing through where the sabotage of the Sunset limited Antrak train occurred in 1995, the tracks are abandoned and are 70 miles that cross the desert with no communication. No signal, I only carry a satellite phone in case something happens to me. But only in this first part I managed to travel about 20 miles, where near Papago the trakcs are destroyed and I could not continue. But the second part is coming. Don't worry, I'm going to cover the remaining 50 miles. spread the adventure!!!
I'm really enjoying your adventure. there's nothing that compares to getting away from everybody and just viewing the countryside. I spent 2 years in a motorhome with my wife just looking for all those place that people never go. It's good for one's mind. Very healthy.
I'm so pleased The Little Fox stopped to remember the October 9, 1995 Palo Verde, Arizona derailment (caused by saboteurs) of Amtrak's Sunset Limited. Sadly, there was one fatality (a sleeping car attendant) and 78 people injured. There is still a $310,000 reward for information leading to the capture of those responsible for the derailment.
I was 15 years old when I heard and saw the news of that fatal sabotage.
Muy triste
Investigators believe the perps were railroad employees, with specific track knowledge. Unsure what the motive would have been. Pretty twisted, to do something like that.
Don't give up then.
@@jessstone7486 I heard they used to work for Amtrak, but I don't know if they did, or if that just a wild rumor.
The sabotage was an copycat to the 1939 Harney NV derailment of Southern Pacific's City of San Francisco. The perpetrators were never caught.
Hi Archie. The ruins you were at was once a place called Saddle, Arizona. It was mainly a Maintenance of Way camp for the railroad built in the 1940s.
Thank you very much for telling me what those station ruins are called, there isn't much information. And I thought that if I write, if anyone knew this place, they would let me know. Thank you very much!
Saludos Archie, Dios te bendiga mucho. me gustan tus clips y videos
I love this so much. As someone who lives in USA and has never had the money to travel makes this perfect. Thank you , 🎉
I'm glad to hear you liked the video. Thank you👌☺️
Save up don’t have kids or get married
@@andrewhatton1606 I'm there ! A 55 year old loser.
Archie, thank you for taking us along for that ride. I'm looking forward to your next adventure on this line beyond the removed trackage.
I'm already editing the second part but this one is going to take me a while to do. thanks for the patience
Every evening at 6pm after work,then i go with for a ride with these guys,it feels like you right there with them
wow what a good dream you had!!! I love to hear that . Yes, people tell me that I'm crazy for walking through the desert hahaha, but it's the most beautiful thing to walk through the desert!!! a big hug!!
Thank you for bringing us along. Learned some history and saw some awesome scenery!! Looking forward to your next video! Very sorry my dad has passed. He would have loved your videos. Regards.
Thank you!!!!
Awesome scenery....where? I must have missed it. Looks like a landfill to me....
@@horsdevors4559 My parents lived in Alabama and loved to travel and take photographs in the west. The arid, somewhat barren landscape appealed to them. Added to that the derailment, the train tracks, and the mystery surrounding the situation would have intrigued them. So, not a landfill to them - a new adventure. Again, thank you Archie for bringing us along. Positive vibes and good will. :-))
I love your opening music and the ride through the rail line.
Greets from Australia - I look forward to your video's so much - thanks for the amazing adventures. R.I.P Eagle Mtn. RR
Gentleman! You are intrepid explorers. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for making this video. The Arizona desert is such a beautiful place. Been there once in 1989, maybe one day I'll be able to go back there.
Thanks!
thank you
Happy New Year!
That was a cool run. Weather was good. Track seems ok...at first. Not a lot of trash weeds. Thanks for sharing your fun runs.
I woke up in middle of night and watched this. Then I fell back asleep. I dreamed of more rail riding. I made up some great meetup location with a few other carts and men in the desert where a town was almost abandoned. One beer joint. A few beers were thrown and drank. Then my dog woke me up to go out. LOL That is what happens to me after watching your videos. LOL Now I know why your so crazy for riding the rails. It teases the mind.
They're actually is A very small settlement With a bar for farm workers just a few miles from there I believe it's called la Paloma. It's where the hider Sentinel Road meets the railroad track. I could meet you there for a beer! Ha ha ha
They're actually is A very small settlement With a bar for farm workers just a few miles from there I believe it's called la Paloma. It's where the hider Sentinel Road meets the railroad track. I could meet you there for a beer! Ha ha ha
They're actually is A very small settlement With a bar for farm workers just a few miles from there I believe it's called la Paloma. It's where the hider Sentinel Road meets the railroad track. I could meet you there for a beer! Ha ha ha
They're actually is A very small settlement With a bar for farm workers just a few miles from there I believe it's called la Paloma. It's where the hider Sentinel Road meets the railroad track. I could meet you there for a beer! Ha ha ha
A fun little ride! Least the sections of track is still intact for running your cart on and going for quite the distance.
Hi Archie, love your videos! I missed the horn😂
Regards from germany
It looks like the air compressor might be in the shop 📢✨👨🏻🔧
Thank You Archie!! I was hoping someday you would come to my state of AZ to run the little fox on this line!!
THAT WAS SO BEAUTFUL THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US THE WAY OF ABANDON TRACKS CANT WAIT TO SEE MORE
Fantastic video friend!!! Good job👏👏👏👏
Thank you
This might sound silly but i love the music in the start,so different to wat i always hear,thanks for that
As always,a great ride and video!!
Wow!! What fun that must have been but I dont see any beer in that cooler. lol
Complimenti per i tuoi video davvero,immersivi e anche paesaggi molto affascinanti,e quel senso di tranquillità e mistero davvero belli
Amigo....find that lost gold mine out there by the mountains and you can buy a bigger locomotive 🚂😊 Thank you for the vacation, it looked like good weather and nice time. A dios
I’ve watched several of these rail cart videos. Really good scenery you won’t get from the highway. Your rail cart looks like it moves pretty fast. I haven’t seen any others that go that fast.
wonderful video looking forward to part 2 thank you for sharing ;-)
@1:19:20 that signal and milepost sign, 853.8, trackside signal cabins and solar power collected are all brand new. Wherever that location is it's almost certainly not abandoned. UP would not have spent money at that site upgrading everything for no reason.
Upgrading for future Amtrak again?
The line is in service at both ends as "Industrial Leads", the middle is out of service but not abandoned@@skyh
UP just opened a new intermodal facility in Phoenix to serve LA and Long Beach customers. If that business takes off, they may restore this section of track (the Roll Industrial lead.) A direct route to the west from Phoenix instead of heading to the sunset route at Maricopa makes sense.
@@erict5234 Not at Maricopa at Picacho
The Chandler line used to connect at Maricopa but was pulled a long time ago.
Archie, your Zorrito adventures are both enjoyable and inspiring. I hope to build a railcart with my sons and follow your example. When we do you will surely receive an invitation to join us if you're available. You appear to be a delightful traveling companion.
Lucky. Ive thought about walking this line. Only a car i have so cant drive the service road. This is epic to ride the line though. Wow.
Like a railway to Heaven!❤😅
LOVE your videos!!
Great videos! Could you maybe share a link or make a material list and do a video for building a rail cart! I live in Yuma and I've been on this rail line and would love to explore it and also Corizo, jacumba and Campo. My girl friend, her grandfather was the president of the railroad in Campo at one time. Be so cool to take her for a ride over the trestles she walked on as a kid. Plus be a great way to go hunting here in Arizona for dove or deer when I'm not working at the firehouse!
That stretch of railroad was the longest length of bolted rail left that Amtrak ran on.
Interesting,
don't you all enjoy railroad
trams, trains etc are just so cool
take a ride in my ''transportation'' folder, (folder 2 in playlists) :)
Resistenza, Archie. Aspettiamo la seconda parte 😊
Io sonno felice di videre un commento in italiano.
si si viene la segunda parte. muy pronto y mejor
Back in 1986 I rode this main line on Amtrak
Bueno! Gracias! Opened my eyes to a whole new adventure and unfortunate history! PS: the rail cart is awesome!
Very nice! Thanks.
I had a thought when you got to the destroyed rails if you had (steering and) larger wheels you could pop onto your rail wheels to basically drive to the next section.
hey guys like the video a lot man I said a nice track it's a shame that that section of tractor was a destroyed but boy is that a nice track be nice to have three or four more like that one wow Happy New Year
Es la vía donde descarrilaron al Ántrax, por qué esa quedó enterita, 🙏🏼👍
I would love some blueprints or an in depth video of how your cart is made. That would be awesome
sorry. but I don't have a blueprint, I did everything by eye respecting the width of the road
Look up rail cars for some ideas
It would be fun to ride the Sunset Limited today and go all the way to New Orleans.
since 1894. 3 trips and 3 returns per week.
I remember when it went to Orlando. I worked for a Short line Railroad there at the time and we shared the rails with the P001 / P002.
One of my most memorable moments with the P001 / P002 was when they sent out a pair of relief engines from Sanford, just ahead of the P001. These two engines were both North-facing engines, but they were backwards! going South from Sanford all the way to Stanton connection about 12 miles south of the Orlando station. I believe the Dispatcher labeled this train P931. Anyway, they went to Stanton connection where there is a wye so they could turn around and go backwards North to Orlando... Meanwhile the P001 was right behind them and stopped in Orlando to unload their passengers and service the cars. When P991 got to the Siding just south of Orlando, they held the main line and waited for the existing power to disconnect. The exhausted engines had a North-facing engine on the North side, so they just cut off and pulled South of the double track switch. Then the dispatcher gave them the block to come North on the #1 track (Rule D-251, no signals for opposing movement.) And meanwhile the other engines came up and coupled to the train. Somewhere in here, they switched designations. The Passenger train was still P001 while the exhausted engines became P931. I think crews swapped here as well. Once all the details were worked out, the exhausted engines went North back to Sanford where they retired. P001 went South and turned the whole train on the wye at Stanton, (as it normally did) and came back to Orlando station. Once it stopped, it became P002. They took on their new passengers and blasted off a couple hours later.
Gosh I miss that train! But Hurricane Katrina in 2005 severed the tracks along the Gulf Coast and by the time they were repaired and ready for service, CSX had worked a new deal with Amtrak, the likes of which Amtrak could not agree to. And so they cut service off at New Orleans.
Nice quiet ride on AmTrack line.
Damn that looked fast lol
The cut rail behind the sign is the cheapskate "catch points" which will derail any runaway or train ignoring the stop sign. Its done that way to ensure the train or runaway runs into the ditch alongside. BTW the line itself is only technically "abandoned", its done so the company doesn't have to pay taxes but has kept up a medium of some maintenance as America is beginning to adopt the European model of shorter trains, faster journeys and traffic on some lines will become a premium hence why Union has technically mothballed the line rather than recover the quite a lot of money in rails and infrastructure it could do.
Its on my bucket list to travel to the US nd do some railcart riding, abandoned tracks in the UK get ripped up pretty quick and turned into cycle paths :(
I wanna ride. Looks fun
excellent video archie. I loved the overhead drone shots too. Can you fly the drone while running the tracks on Zorrito at the same time? I would love to see that!
Unfortunately. The drone does not have tracking. Later I will change it for one that is a little bit bigger. I want it to have the tracking option. That's great. !! thank you!!!
Really enjoyed this one! What mean-spirited busybodies to destroy 1/4 mile of track just to keep rail carts of those tracks! What are they doing, protecting their little piece of dessert from others breathing their desert air?
Is there a part 2 to this video yet? 🇬🇧
Use binoculars to look ahead in case the line is blocked ?
no, nothing,we just get on and leave
good clean fun, two friends just hanging
Remember how the track maintenance vehicles have regular tires AND rail wheels/ Maybe you can fabricate a couple axles with small tires on them, and lift the little fox onto those axles, go over the land, then when you get to the rails again, just take them off. I realize that is a bit of extra weight and bulk to haul around, though.
Tracks on this segment between Yuma and Phoenix were laid in 1926.
What's the story on why this rail line was abandoned? What points does this abandoned section run between and who owns the ROW? Where did Amtrak reroute?
Google it
Just look up Amtrak sunset limited 1995 sabotage it'll tell you everything you need to know
Around 1996 Amtrak and Union Pacific rerouted the sunset south of Phoenix.
Union Pacific was hoping to abandon this line as freight traffic was not feasible on it.
Most of it could easily be restored according to Union Pacific if traffic demands warrant it and there was a need for it it's mainly just used for storage of railroad cars.
I hear Amtrak goes to Maricopa, Arizona instead of the track on the video.
@@MrJuvefrank yep that's how they rerouted it basically.
That was fun - at speeds of 2x or 5x more exciting
Check the CoosBay ralway eugene to Powers the latter part is not much used, From Coquile to Powers set up at the north end of the Mill casino small side track , looks goood for staging
Ruben, I would love to do a professional video on the rail cart. Let me know.
Those tracks aren't abandoned. They're currently mothballed by UP.
For tax reasons and property rights and possible future use. A condition of property ownership often reverted to the previous/original owners if tracks were abandoned.
@@Greatdome99 it isn't railbanked.
Looks like a washout that the RR decided not to repair.
what happened to the tracks? Hello from Italy!
Great video Mr. Moreno. If this is an abandoned main line, where does the new main line go?
Now coming through Maricopa AZ. passing through Gila, Piedra, Sentinel, Dateland, to Yuma and ending in Los Angeles
What caused the damage to the tracks where you had to stop at around 37:00? They look seriously removed/damaged. Flood? Somebody with a tractor?
Google it
@@jljohnson8668 Google what? How tracks moved in the middle of an abandoned RR? By the way, I'm not talking about the Amtrak crash site. I'm very familiar with that. I'm talking about the rails that moved that caused him to have to turn around 37 minutes into the video.
@@bryce2680 well that's where the railroad severed the connection
@@jljohnson8668 That doesn't look like something the RR would do. Typically, it is done with a red flag and one rail shifted to act as a derail. An example would be what he found at the east end of the out-of-service line. There must have been a flood or something that ripped through there and jumbled the track like that.
@@bryce2680 After 1996, the Sunset Limited was rerouted to south of Phoenix (approaching no closer than Maricopa) due to the desire of Union Pacific to abandon this stretch of track (leading to and through Phoenix, AZ) for its through trains between southern New Mexico and southern California. The section of track on which the derailment took place is now used as storage track only. It could be reactivated in the future if freight traffic increases...Per Wikipedia.
Sure would like to know a little more about the cart build, esp the wheels. Type, material, etc...
Vai ser uma viagem muito longa kkklkkkk boa sorte 😅😅😅😅
Quantos quilômetros essa linha ferrea têm Archie? Parece muito boa...😊
60 kilometros
By looking at the pic, the engine looks like it was upright and only the cars derailed?
Wow, Happy to have found your channel. Cab rides in the west are a favorite but your rail car rides are so much more. Have you stopped to sample the wash for precious metals or wild west artifacts? I'd be taking a pan or classifier and a metal detector for down slope of mining districts. I look forward to part 2.
Picking up certain artifacts in Arizona is a huge no no.
@archiemoreno hola, soy mexicana y acabo de encontrar tu canal. Veo que hablas español, y me gustaria preguntarte como se llama en lo que vas por los rieles y porque vas, y mil cosas mas. No te encuentras trenes en sentido contrario? Se necesita licencia para hacer esos paseos? En que parte andas? No entiendo mucho, pero me relaja ver tus videos y veo que los disfrutas un montón, muchas felicidades...!!!
Hola .todos le decimos railcart en vias abandonadas. Eso es lo que hago . Pero los railcart le pongo nombres. Como la pionera LittleFox y luego construi el ZORRITO . Y el permiso se lo pido a Dios .😅
Is it possible to go from Arizona to California on an abandoned railroad?
Qué es bueno el paseo me encantaría mucho darme una aventura con ese moto carril mis felicitaciones desde Perú mis saludos a aquellos fanáticos que se dedican a esas aventuras
So nice
So whats the story with this line? After train wreck they closed it ?
No signals , weeds. Seems to be in good shape.
The last part looked pretty fast. Did you take a speed readout on your GPS? It could be nice to know how fast you went 🙂
Love from Denmark
38 MPH top speed to full throttle!!!
@@archiemoreno che en kilómetros decilo
So what happens when somebody steals your car while you're gone?
It's absolutely pathetic that this line continues to rot. Phoenix SHOULD have Amtrak service.
Hey Archie ever see rattlesnakes or other wildlife?
What is that sign at 28:56 ?
What's your speed?
top speed is 45 mph
Thanks, coool!😊@@archiemoreno
Awesome!!!
Why don't you carry the cart around cut track or put another axle on one end higher up and tie off some small rubber tires , when you get to bad track put tires on upper axle ,pick up other end and move it like a wheel barrow, just a thought.
that's what i was thiinking, i would make them automatic and also to deploy as a safety
Have you done part 2 yet? I really enjoy your videos. There's an old line up here near me that people have taken their rail carts. You can run a good chunk of it. It's scheduled to be torn up. It would be a long drive for you but an awesome video. Look up Camas Prairie Railroad.
Part 2 and 3 is comming!!!🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
На 35-й минуте железнодорожный путь разрушен явно специально и совсем недавно, но позже, чем разобраны разъезды.
Но зачем? И почему посреди пустыни?
Sure wish you could have done something about the horrible sound from the camera. Also would love to see the camera with 360 setup.
is it required to got permission for running railcart on tracks??
can u do this on a normal trak
Location ??? We take apart rail for a company maybe something we can do
Gillespie, arizona US.
Hoping they fix this line bringing amtrak back to phoenix
33°12'42.8"N 113°00'55.6"W if you're looking for that viaduct / derailment location.
I see the thieves have stripped all the Style B semaphores down to the cases. Last time I was on that line, they were all functioning.
I really hope those a-holes that ruined the track get caught & tossed in prison. RIP to attendant who lost his/her life!
Is this rail closed ? w.t.f. 😮
you can put a speedometer on that thing. easy with a bike kind. the ones that detect a magnetic pulse. at walmart. there are calculation that you input into the it
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Im curious... Have you ever encountered with an unexpected live train coming toward you ?
Is abandoned tracks
@@archiemorenoya, perooo,... y si estan igual q tu, recorriendo la pista abandonada con toda tranquilidad pensando q nadie circula por ahí.....😂
You should put a speed odometer app on your phone and show your speed once in a while.
With the signals removed that line is about as out of service as it gets, and replacing that jointed rail is going to be hideously expensive.
the government should step in and put the railroad's leases on hold, and take over the property and maintain it at at least a low level.... what the crap goes down in this country we're going to be transported back to the 1800's and were going to need every bit of track we can find... We may need more rail not less going forward, take a train the bulk of your route and be met by an Uber EV for local
A+
Why was that track abandoned?
It is not abandoned. It's currently in mothball status, used mainly as a storage track.
@@silicon212 Good!
@@silicon212 It has miles of Autoracks and Well cars stored on it. Besides all the missing sections of rail.