that's the same with all screens of that size. What we did that worked GREAT was to use a DeWalt battery-powered fan blowing air OUT of the door which creates a flow of air consistently throughout and really pushes the heat out. The higher you set the fan, the more heat it pushes out. Just our experiences. Thanks for the review.
The small fan sounds like a great solution to what (to y'all) is a MAJOR problem w/ the Gazelle. A larger mesh would allow the bugs/insects access to the interior, thus, ANOTHER prob for y'all in Florida. Guess, sitting under an awning is the solution, for some. Y'all Be Safe!@
Thanks for the review it helped me to keep looking and I settled on the Gazelle G6 Gazebo Deluxe because it has windows in the mesh and another door for better ventilation and also roll down sides for complete rain protection. Its expensive but worth it!
We have one too. We like it and are happy we got it. But definitely agree. The biggest con of this screened tent is: When it's sunny & warm it can get HOT inside the tent. We made somewhat a solution to this by adding an additional layer of shade....we just rig up a small blue tarp to the "ceiling" by attaching it to the support poles. That helps a lot. And we have the exact same metal stakes with the orange....definitely need to upgrade the stakes!
I’ve owned a lot of high quality tents, by different manufactures, and I just bought a Gazelle T4. I bought new stakes when I ordered the tent. I have never had adequate stakes come with any of them. Just the way it is
we just got ours and you right about heat. we where at a beach campground no shade during a heat wave here in del. i had a fan inside to move air later in the evening. I rather put a fan in it then deal with bugs. best part is setup and take down.
It would be good if they gave a couple of options on mesh size. I hear a lot of people in the more southern areas talk about no see ums but in the northern areas the enemies are mostly mosquitoes, black flies and deer flies and the mesh doesn't have to be that fine to keep them out. In hot weather being able to feel a breeze is important and you might not be able to plug in a fan
Thanks for the heads up on the shelter I too would not be able to be comfortable with the mesh. But we want to set one up on the patio with fans inside ours would be in the shade. Smoking is done outside and we have west Nile concerns. Would be nice for smokers as long as you midigate the heat.
I had the same thing with the clam model. it works best when you are trying to be out of the wind and its cooler out. I also upgrade the stakes and you have to run ropes from the side tie downs.
I have a clam too...i love it. Camped a few weeks ago...unzipped the door and you could feel the cold air rush in. I'm not looking forward to FLA summers. Ha. The Clam stakes are huge and solid.
No tent I’ve ever had came with good stakes, guess is kind of standard to include crappy ones. I’ve had my Gazelle for a few years now and personally I would much much rather put up with some heat than bug bites, maybe I haven’t encountered the temperatures you have although I have camped in Death Valley in late Spring and I didn’t get as hot inside as you mentioned. Thanks for the review.
All that said, the reasons why you don't like it, is EXACTLY why I do. Ordering mine right now. It'll make for a great winter cigar tent. Great review.
I just bought one and got 6 wind panels for it. I also got a wood stove and some stuff to make a stove jack. I got some mylar emergency blankets to attach to the insides of the wind panels. I plan to use it as a hot tent. UPS just delivered the gazebo today. Waiting on the blankets and panels and the stove jack supplies so I can put it all together. I've been wanting to make a hot tent with the mylar blankets attached to the walls of the tent, but couldn't figure out a good way to attach them to a regular tent without making it permanent or putting holes in the wall of the tent. I saw these and it all came together.
Great review. I live in the South and Heat & Shade can be a real problem while camping. I had my eye on this. I would have never thought the air flow would have been so poor, with all those big mess windows. So glad I found your review.
I do agree with the part about no air and what I did was keep it if possible setup in the shade and I brought a Vacmaster Air Mover Blower Fan Dryer Cooling Carpet Wall Floor Dryers 3-Speed set it up on a bucket and it moves the air in a way it feels like AC lol and I also got a blowup couch and man oh man I be so relaxed I rest for hours. Now one note when it’s day time and I’m out doing stuff I open all the triangle vent and front door then as it starts to get nite time I close them and turn on the fan I don’t even go inside the RV and get under the AC
I hadn't thought about the heat build up. I have a small portable A.C. unit that I could use but then you need power. I'm an old time tent camper and I have replaced the stakes on every one I have bought with the heavy metal ones. Great review.
I adore your After the Honeymoon videos and your partial after the fact. I purchased my RV awning and the screen with it in Quartzsite. It does allow the breeze while blocking the sun. It's not handy to set up as you did in Florida to make a community shelter. The screen can be purchased on Amazon to enclose a regular pop up.
💯 agree! In NC, I can’t really use the G6 from late spring through early fall because the gazebo is too hot. I’ve given up on using this to avoid mosquitos. But I still like it for sun, wind, and rain protection and for storing my stuff. I’m not ready to buy the cool top deluxe G6. I’m thinking about modifying my old G6 so that it breathes. Specifically, I’d cut out the mesh on the two sides that are diagonally across from the door. With those 3 sides open, I should get plenty of ventilation (and mosquitos, alas!). If I ever needed to close it up, I’d just use the add-on wind/rain panels. Cutting up my gazebo feels like sacrilege. But it’s either that or let it gather dust in my garage. Have you ever done something like this or know of anyone who has? How’d it turn out?
I want to do some boondocking in my Honda Odyssey, but I have two smaller dogs and do not feel safe just tying them out. Thought a clam would give me a place to relax and let my dogs run around too. Maybe a reflective shade blanket over the top?
For stakes I use those big nails you can buy at Lowes or Home Depot. They are used to nail landscape timbers together. Buy a large washer for each nail. You can drive them with a hammer and remove them with the same hammer or use a crowbar. Those things you have in your hand break like crazy.😀
Problem w pop up shelter solution is no bug protection. I’ve seen people (on YT) putting reflective tarps over the top of their Clams to reduce the heat going in through the ceilings. That’s what I’m going to try.
The stake issue is pretty much the norm in the tent industry. All the tents I’ve ever bought come with crap stakes and I’ve always have had to upgrade the stakes straight from the initial purchase. I keep a stock of aftermarket stakes in my camping gear.
Brenda Sweetapple we’ve found that it will provide some protection from light rain. I’ve not noticed leaks around poles or seams, but I wouldn’t leave anything in there that can’t get wet because of the screen walls which provide far less protection from rain especially if there is wind involved. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!!
I would miss the breeze... wud be nice with a roof vent. And would need a fan... I'd maybe put a diff hanging net over the door like a curtain so u can keep door open and maybe get breeze that way.
With the cams collapsing because of the wind, did you use the provided guy rope to hook to the cams so they don't collapse. Also, Florida, it would not matter what gazebo you have, it's going to be hot regardless. I agree with the wire stakes, easy upgrade. Other than that, it's a great product.
Mountainsky Aerial Photography sorry, it’s been a while & I don’t recall the details. I likely did use the cam stakes, always do, but sandy soil & high winds were the problem. Better stakes did keep it from becoming a tumbleweed. Thanks for watching!
We have a Gazzelle too. I agree about the airflow but the Clam is the same. It does work well when it’s cooler when you don’t need airflowWe used it for bike storage in Yellowstone and it snowed. The weight of the snow collapsed the top but no damage. We replaced the stakes too with the same metal stakes you showed. I think a screen shelter that fits over a picnic table with a courser screen that keeps out larger bugs would be more useful.
Hi Cindy, We didn't sit in either, as I recall nobody did. I believe the screen is the same on both, very tiny. Looking at them side by side, there may have been tiny differences, but overall it's as if they could have been made on the same assembly line on a different day if you know what I mean, very much alike.
Can you tell us what the best alternative is? I noticed one commenter asked the same thing, but the link you directed him to was a list of various gazebo's, including the clam and gazelle. Did you settle on anything that keeps larger bugs out and has more air flow?
Hi Kim, It's Matt. I'm replying from my other channel Native Sugar Shack. We never did find an alternative that suited us. When we boondocked with other RV'ers who had other brands and compared notes we had all come to about the same conclusions, but it does depend on the climate you happen to be in I suppose. We and most of the RV'ers we traveled around with chased the sun & well, you know the issues noted. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Thanks for watching!!
Chase Custom Builders I suppose if could, but the only thing we found that worked was to leave the door open & have a fan blowing air in. Thanks for watching!
I do not know about battery but regular fan helps a lot. I set the tent in sun and I felt myself very comfortable with fan and gazebo provides shade from roof. I have chipper brand $120 or so
The lack of a zippered floor to keep rattlers and scorpions out for western use looks like a limitation to me. It looks like it might be good for use in the mountains. Still there are snakes in the western mountains.
Great review. Can the roof stand up to rain? Once Clam reviewer said he got soaked in his Clam from water seeping through seam holes stretched by the pop-out feature of the roof frame - which it seems is why I would buy one of these designs. (I had the same wet experience in a pop-out hunting blind). I see both shelters have attachable side panels as well.
cabincreek not as well as I had hoped. It can handle a sprinkle but not a rain storm & if you don’t anchor it down well it can become a kite... don’t ask how I know this, ha!!
Hi Matt, my wife and I just bought a 2018 Forza. We now know not to use regular toilet paper. Our half bath toilet is plugged. Were do you shut off the water so I can clean the pipe out? When open the water keeps filling the bowl up. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Those stakes they supply are a joke! Like you, we use the metal stakes! That is the number one problem with these type of outdoor rooms. Heat! If you follow 70 degree's, they are great! Thanks for sharing the truth of the matter!
Heat build-up no problem you're in Florida Place where nobody should inhabit up North Pennsylvania York Ohio perfect. So in that oven they call Florida I would you stay away beside that's a place where Retired people go to die.
Ukinkall Meray with all due respect, I didn’t make this video for you, but I did let you watch it for free, so in the end I got paid for you watching & commenting (cha-ching!) & you got exactly what you paid for. So, as far as I’m concerned it’s a win win & you can shove your complaints & insults straight up your ass.
I agree Ron. Some folks are not happy unless they have something to bitch about. It wouldn't have been so bad if he would have just said that they get hot and the stakes are useless. I would never own one but it took him over NINE MINUTES to say what I said in EIGHT WORDS. Ironically you could literally set up 10 of those tents in the time it took for him to get TO THE POINT. But he is right, I bet he made a tenth of a cent by you AND me wasting our time watching his stupid video. More like Nomadic Naive - HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
that's the same with all screens of that size. What we did that worked GREAT was to use a DeWalt battery-powered fan blowing air OUT of the door which creates a flow of air consistently throughout and really pushes the heat out. The higher you set the fan, the more heat it pushes out. Just our experiences. Thanks for the review.
The small fan sounds like a great solution to what (to y'all) is a MAJOR problem w/ the Gazelle. A larger mesh would allow the bugs/insects access to the interior, thus, ANOTHER prob for y'all in Florida. Guess, sitting under an awning is the solution, for some.
Y'all Be Safe!@
Thanks for the review it helped me to keep looking and I settled on the Gazelle G6 Gazebo Deluxe because it has windows in the mesh and another door for better ventilation and also roll down sides for complete rain protection. Its expensive but worth it!
FYI more than double the price at Gazelle.
Always an accurate and fair assessment of a product. Thanks for your efforts.
Love your candor!
Thank you for the great review. 😊
Thank you for your service👍
Thanks for the review, very informative.
Good information, wind is always a problem and we have lost one of the popups to it.
Thank you for this honest review! I appreciate you!
You’re welcome, thanks for watching!
The long lag bolts work well to hold down a tent, and quick with a cordless impact wrench, may need washers as well!
Great review! Thanks!
We have one too. We like it and are happy we got it. But definitely agree. The biggest con of this screened tent is: When it's sunny & warm it can get HOT inside the tent. We made somewhat a solution to this by adding an additional layer of shade....we just rig up a small blue tarp to the "ceiling" by attaching it to the support poles. That helps a lot. And we have the exact same metal stakes with the orange....definitely need to upgrade the stakes!
I’ve owned a lot of high quality tents, by different manufactures, and I just bought a Gazelle T4. I bought new stakes when I ordered the tent. I have never had adequate stakes come with any of them. Just the way it is
we just got ours and you right about heat. we where at a beach campground no shade during a heat wave here in del. i had a fan inside to move air later in the evening. I rather put a fan in it then deal with bugs. best part is setup and take down.
It would be good if they gave a couple of options on mesh size. I hear a lot of people in the more southern areas talk about no see ums but in the northern areas the enemies are mostly mosquitoes, black flies and deer flies and the mesh doesn't have to be that fine to keep them out. In hot weather being able to feel a breeze is important and you might not be able to plug in a fan
Thanks for the review! We just ordered one of these. Hope it isn't too miserably hot for us.
Great review
Great review and it's actually helped confirm my purchase. I am looking to block the wind in cooler temps so this sounds like the perfect product!!
Thanks for the heads up on the shelter I too would not be able to be comfortable with the mesh. But we want to set one up on the patio with fans inside ours would be in the shade. Smoking is done outside and we have west Nile concerns. Would be nice for smokers as long as you midigate the heat.
Yes, you're right. As long as you can negate the heat it will serve you well. The mesh is definately tiny enough to help prevent pest spread virus.
I had the same thing with the clam model. it works best when you are trying to be out of the wind and its cooler out. I also upgrade the stakes and you have to run ropes from the side tie downs.
Matt DeWitt thanks for the comment & watching the video Matt! Safe travels.
I have a clam too...i love it. Camped a few weeks ago...unzipped the door and you could feel the cold air rush in. I'm not looking forward to FLA summers. Ha. The Clam stakes are huge and solid.
Good info, thanks.
No tent I’ve ever had came with good stakes, guess is kind of standard to include crappy ones. I’ve had my Gazelle for a few years now and personally I would much much rather put up with some heat than bug bites, maybe I haven’t encountered the temperatures you have although I have camped in Death Valley in late Spring and I didn’t get as hot inside as you mentioned. Thanks for the review.
All that said, the reasons why you don't like it, is EXACTLY why I do. Ordering mine right now. It'll make for a great winter cigar tent. Great review.
Curtis A Deror I think you’re right & great idea!!
I just bought one and got 6 wind panels for it. I also got a wood stove and some stuff to make a stove jack. I got some mylar emergency blankets to attach to the insides of the wind panels. I plan to use it as a hot tent. UPS just delivered the gazebo today. Waiting on the blankets and panels and the stove jack supplies so I can put it all together. I've been wanting to make a hot tent with the mylar blankets attached to the walls of the tent, but couldn't figure out a good way to attach them to a regular tent without making it permanent or putting holes in the wall of the tent. I saw these and it all came together.
Great review. I live in the South and Heat & Shade can be a real problem while camping. I had my eye on this. I would have never thought the air flow would have been so poor, with all those big mess windows. So glad I found your review.
You definitely helped my decision making on this subject thank you for your honesty
TY good job
I do agree with the part about no air and what I did was keep it if possible setup in the shade and I brought a Vacmaster Air Mover Blower Fan Dryer Cooling Carpet Wall Floor Dryers 3-Speed set it up on a bucket and it moves the air in a way it feels like AC lol and I also got a blowup couch and man oh man I be so relaxed I rest for hours. Now one note when it’s day time and I’m out doing stuff I open all the triangle vent and front door then as it starts to get nite time I close them and turn on the fan I don’t even go inside the RV and get under the AC
100% accurate about the heat build up inside one of these. We were shocked how stuffy it got in there in spite of the walls being mesh. :/
I hadn't thought about the heat build up. I have a small portable A.C. unit that I could use but then you need power. I'm an old time tent camper and I have replaced the stakes on every one I have bought with the heavy metal ones. Great review.
Try MSR Groundhog stakes. I replace all of my tent stakes with them.
Thanks for this review. I’m going to buy this gazebo because I want to use it in Alaska. I would like a little heat buildup in Alaska😀
I adore your After the Honeymoon videos and your partial after the fact. I purchased my RV awning and the screen with it in Quartzsite. It does allow the breeze while blocking the sun. It's not handy to set up as you did in Florida to make a community shelter. The screen can be purchased on Amazon to enclose a regular pop up.
💯 agree! In NC, I can’t really use the G6 from late spring through early fall because the gazebo is too hot. I’ve given up on using this to avoid mosquitos. But I still like it for sun, wind, and rain protection and for storing my stuff.
I’m not ready to buy the cool top deluxe G6. I’m thinking about modifying my old G6 so that it breathes. Specifically, I’d cut out the mesh on the two sides that are diagonally across from the door. With those 3 sides open, I should get plenty of ventilation (and mosquitos, alas!). If I ever needed to close it up, I’d just use the add-on wind/rain panels. Cutting up my gazebo feels like sacrilege. But it’s either that or let it gather dust in my garage.
Have you ever done something like this or know of anyone who has? How’d it turn out?
I want to do some boondocking in my Honda Odyssey, but I have two smaller dogs and do not feel safe just tying them out. Thought a clam would give me a place to relax and let my dogs run around too. Maybe a reflective shade blanket over the top?
For stakes I use those big nails you can buy at Lowes or Home Depot. They are used to nail landscape timbers together. Buy a large washer for each nail. You can drive them with a hammer and remove them with the same hammer or use a crowbar. Those things you have in your hand break like crazy.😀
I have the same ones you’re talking about, so cheap and so great.
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What is a "Pop-Up"?
Thanks for the info in florida now and thought about one but ill save 180.00
Problem w pop up shelter solution is no bug protection. I’ve seen people (on YT) putting reflective tarps over the top of their Clams to reduce the heat going in through the ceilings. That’s what I’m going to try.
Good info. See you next week? I'll im ya.
thanks ! :] ]
The stake issue is pretty much the norm in the tent industry. All the tents I’ve ever bought come with crap stakes and I’ve always have had to upgrade the stakes straight from the initial purchase. I keep a stock of aftermarket stakes in my camping gear.
I just bought this and set it up the other day, but I have different stakes.
Try the one where the screens open for air flow with the fold done sides. We love ours
I think they made that version, with the fold down sides, because of this video, ha! Thanks for watching!!
HI.....Great info, One concern I was wondering is was there any leakage while it rained around the poles or stitching.
Brenda Sweetapple we’ve found that it will provide some protection from light rain. I’ve not noticed leaks around poles or seams, but I wouldn’t leave anything in there that can’t get wet because of the screen walls which provide far less protection from rain especially if there is wind involved. Hope that helps, thanks for watching!!
Do you remember the temperature in FL you had it set up in?
When you say "pop up things", what are you referring to?
I would miss the breeze... wud be nice with a roof vent. And would need a fan... I'd maybe put a diff hanging net over the door like a curtain so u can keep door open and maybe get breeze that way.
It all comes down to common sense. Something sorely lacking today.
What is the pop up??
With the cams collapsing because of the wind, did you use the provided guy rope to hook to the cams so they don't collapse. Also, Florida, it would not matter what gazebo you have, it's going to be hot regardless. I agree with the wire stakes, easy upgrade. Other than that, it's a great product.
Mountainsky Aerial Photography sorry, it’s been a while & I don’t recall the details. I likely did use the cam stakes, always do, but sandy soil & high winds were the problem. Better stakes did keep it from becoming a tumbleweed. Thanks for watching!
Using it as a storage shed they do make battery operated fans
We have a Gazzelle too. I agree about the airflow but the Clam is the same. It does work well when it’s cooler when you don’t need airflowWe used it for bike storage in Yellowstone and it snowed. The weight of the snow collapsed the top but no damage. We replaced the stakes too with the same metal stakes you showed. I think a screen shelter that fits over a picnic table with a courser screen that keeps out larger bugs would be more useful.
Did you notice the same heat build up in the Clam or is the screening different?
Hi Cindy, We didn't sit in either, as I recall nobody did. I believe the screen is the same on both, very tiny. Looking at them side by side, there may have been tiny differences, but overall it's as if they could have been made on the same assembly line on a different day if you know what I mean, very much alike.
Can you tell us what the best alternative is? I noticed one commenter asked the same thing, but the link you directed him to was a list of various gazebo's, including the clam and gazelle. Did you settle on anything that keeps larger bugs out and has more air flow?
Hi Kim, It's Matt. I'm replying from my other channel Native Sugar Shack. We never did find an alternative that suited us. When we boondocked with other RV'ers who had other brands and compared notes we had all come to about the same conclusions, but it does depend on the climate you happen to be in I suppose. We and most of the RV'ers we traveled around with chased the sun & well, you know the issues noted. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Thanks for watching!!
I'm pretty sure Tom shook the camera hoping you would get to the point... JEEZUS!
Do you think a battery operated ceiling fan drawing air in (blowing up) would help pull cooler air in along the sides and help push out the warn air?
Chase Custom Builders I suppose if could, but the only thing we found that worked was to leave the door open & have a fan blowing air in. Thanks for watching!
I do not know about battery but regular fan helps a lot. I set the tent in sun and I felt myself very comfortable with fan and gazebo provides shade from roof. I have chipper brand $120 or so
What's the name of the just the regular pop-up you talking about
The lack of a zippered floor to keep rattlers and scorpions out for western use looks like a limitation to me. It looks like it might be good for use in the mountains. Still there are snakes in the western mountains.
I had the same problem. Gazelle addressed the issue with a new version with better flowing mesh. Has anyone tried it?
Great review. Can the roof stand up to rain? Once Clam reviewer said he got soaked in his Clam from water seeping through seam holes stretched by the pop-out feature of the roof frame - which it seems is why I would buy one of these designs. (I had the same wet experience in a pop-out hunting blind). I see both shelters have attachable side panels as well.
cabincreek not as well as I had hoped. It can handle a sprinkle but not a rain storm & if you don’t anchor it down well it can become a kite... don’t ask how I know this, ha!!
A demo of the set up would have been helpful.
Hundreds of UA-cam videos out there. All manufacturers are all the same method.
buy another Class A just for mosquitos then you can set in the “bug”
I have seen people rig small ac to cool and it works well
Thanks for posting. We're looking for something like this and stumbled onto this video. Do you have any alternative brand/type/model suggestions?
Ralph B Hi, here you go & thanks for watching!
thetenthub.com/garden-patio/pop-up-gazebo/
Hi Matt, my wife and I just bought a 2018 Forza. We now know not to use regular toilet paper. Our half bath toilet is plugged. Were do you shut off the water so I can clean the pipe out? When open the water keeps filling the bowl up. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Greg Hettig turn off the water pump or the water faucet outside. It’ll probably take a few bowls of water to depressurize the water lines.
@@NomadicNative thanks Matt ,I'll give it a try.Been following you when you pick up the Forza. I like most of it, but finding some quality issues.
Those stakes they supply are a joke! Like you, we use the metal stakes! That is the number one problem with these type of outdoor rooms. Heat! If you follow 70 degree's, they are great! Thanks for sharing the truth of the matter!
Looks like my clam
Easy set up 2 minutes
Heat build-up no problem you're in Florida Place where nobody should inhabit up North Pennsylvania York Ohio perfect. So in that oven they call Florida I would you stay away beside that's a place where Retired people go to die.
Yawn.
With all due respect your whining. Your complaints are very minimal. This video was not worth my time.
Ukinkall Meray with all due respect, I didn’t make this video for you, but I did let you watch it for free, so in the end I got paid for you watching & commenting (cha-ching!) & you got exactly what you paid for. So, as far as I’m concerned it’s a win win & you can shove your complaints & insults straight up your ass.
I agree Ron. Some folks are not happy unless they have something to bitch about. It wouldn't have been so bad if he would have just said that they get hot and the stakes are useless. I would never own one but it took him over NINE MINUTES to say what I said in EIGHT WORDS. Ironically you could literally set up 10 of those tents in the time it took for him to get TO THE POINT. But he is right, I bet he made a tenth of a cent by you AND me wasting our time watching his stupid video. More like Nomadic Naive - HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣