The Most Ridiculous EV - Genesis GV60
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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If the Genesis G80 was the Grandpa car, the GV60 is the "cool aunt" car. With a... unique exterior design, a ton of power, and a flashy interior, it's hard to pin down who this is for, but boy is it a fun ride. Alex took it for a spin and has some thoughts (and maybe a new car?)
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Does Linus think it's ugly?
0:29 Exterior impressions
3:05 Interior impressions ft. a cool orb
7:12 Sponsor - Secret Lab
7:36 This thing is FAST!
8:57 Driving impressions
10:31 Sound system impressions
13:14 Infotainment system and one-pedal driving woes
14:50 Pricing and overall thoughts
16:12 Outro - Наука та технологія
2:52 editors: kw is for power delivery. kwh is for quantity/storage.
I love the idea of the car only being able to charge 4.5 times before the port just breaks entirely
Yes, thank you!
Also, editor - it's "km", not "KM". The "kilo" in "kilometer" is the same one as the one in "kilowatt hour" and the rules for it are the same, since it's a system. And "meter" shortens to a lowercase "m", unlike some other units like watt or the metric ton.
@@hellelujahh that is nitpicking tho, while the other one is a severe concept error
I absolutely love Alex's enthusiasm for the car videos! I wonder how he got picked to be the host/writer for them
I'm gonna guess Alex wanted an excuse to drive around wicked electric cars for free
He is a big car nerd and mentioned that he did a lot of work on suspension design when he was in engineering school
didnt he used to race those dune buggy thing
When he was hired, he went to school to be able to engineer cages and suspension, hes always been a gearhead, that why he initially got picked...
I think Jake is one of the biggest car nerds. I’d love to see him do reviews
Love these car reviews from Alex. His sound / audio review is amazing. Instead of just going over the raw specs like number of speakers and tweeters, he talks about the actual sound quality and sound staging and the experience which is what end users care about. More Alex car videos please !!
he just needs more research/experience. or more time...
It's been great to see them start out pretty shabby and then grow to be better and better. Now they're some of my favorite car reviews from a youtube exclusive creator period. Definitely the highest production value in that category.
I'll never get tired of these EV reviews! Even though I'm not in a position to buy any of them, it's fun to see the market!
I purchased one of these and I absolutely love it. I think it looks better than the Ionic, but it's subjective... He's right about the white getting dirty quickly though... it just looks so nice on the inside. At night, the accent lighting makes the white look so good as well. It's worth it to me to just clean the carpets every now and then. I also have the Advanced with 20in rims. (But no boost button...😞)
Having lived with the car for a bit longer than Alex, I have some additions to his review:
I did test the facial and fingerprint scanner and it works mint! I wouldn't go far from home with worries it might not work... but I have no reason not to trust it.
The trunk auto opener is alright... it starts almost every time for me. I think the reason why it doesn't work for a lot of reviewers is it doesn't work if you're standing around the car for a long time. You need to be away from the car for a certain time to prevent accidental opens. They assume if you're standing around the car you don't want to open the liftgate. That being said, if I want the liftgate opened, I don't want to wait for the 3 beeps. I'm just hitting the button. On my Sonata, which also had this feature, the auto trunk helped me maybe once when I had a bunch of stuff in my hand. Other than that... nearly useless feature. But that waterfall thing... that's annoying as hell. Especially in the winter when the car is dirty. You get dirty water dripping on you.
I don't know what he's talking about with the squeaky wheel. I have about 500 miles on my car and haven't noticed it at all. I've never moved my hand on a steering wheel (ever) the way he was here. Maaaybe... don't do that? Lol! I do slide my hand back and forth because he's right about the wheel being super soft and plush. It feels great and was the first thing that actually sold me on the car. Way better than the Ionic 5 wheel. The wheel and the gear selector... which is SICK!!!
The passenger side air freshener is kind of dumb because it's made for pods that they don't sell in the US. Some people cut up the little trees or use dryer sheets...
I will agree that the wireless android auto missing is dumb. The Sonata was the same way. Why have a wireless charger if you are plugging in anyway?!?
I do agree the sound system is fine... the Bose in the Sonata was better. For most people though, I expect the sound to be more than enough... Their EQ system is one of the dumbest things I've seen.
The car also will do a 90 degree turn and park itself. I don't know if it's because the cameras are obstructed with winter gunk, but that hasn't worked too well for me now. Using the standard smart park stuff is nice to pull in and out still.
A couple other neat things.. I love the way to moon roof opens. It splits from the middle which is a nice touch. The door handles have the Genesis logo projected to the ground which is cool. And the auto unlock when you walk up to it (which is a common EV thing) is nice. Also, the white key fob is dope as hell!!!
Love how he just accelerated faster than 90% of anyone who's been in a car.
99% for sure
EVs already feel a bit like a rollercoaster, even the slower ones. When they get under 4s 0-60 it starts to feel like your organs are being rearranged. I'm lucky enough to have had a p90DL for two days with a 0-60 of 2.4s. that thing tore my face off and I let it. Repeatedly.
@@n47m4n11 I drove an electric Nissan van a few years ago, it made me want to puke from the low end torgue between 10-40km/h. Maybe because I was flooring it all the time.....
Love how the cameraman moaned every time Alex floored it
I've been in an F-40, some say it's the best sports car. It still doesn't accelerate this fast.
At the first glance I thought the design was weird, but as the video progressed, I liked it more and more. Now I think the exterior is Great! Unique enough to stand out, but subtle and balanced at the same time.
It would have been fine if they didn't give it that weird pertruding nose. Like why, that one detail ruins the whole car.
They should start making their own designs and not just ripping off others
@@Linus-qo4qe Genesis is Hyundai's luxury line though so who are they ripping off?
@@flyinfingers303 it doesn’t help that the current lead designer for Genesis used to work for *Bentley,* so that’s why Genesis cars give off “looks like a Bentley” vibe…
@@flyinfingers303 Infinity, looks nearly identical to the late 2000's Infinity SUV's.. like the FX35 or something, idk. Not familiar with the exact models.
2:52 it's not capable of 350kW. Not even in the peak. It's maximum charge rate is 240kW (like ev6 and ioniq). Also it's kW, not kWh. kWh is the capacity of a battery, kW is changing power.
I actually don’t mind the manual blinds for the backseat, but I guess I’m used to it from my mom’s car.
I've never even seen blinds at all on a car
I think having it be manual is good since it’s one less motor to break, but I don’t own a car and wouldn’t be able to afford one so maybe my opinion doesn’t mean anything.
yeah i never understood this complaint. My parents car has manual blinds and we dont need them that often. its pointless for them to be any more complicated.
The less electronics the less that goes wrong 👍
I would also mess with the people in the front seat with that button
Sorry Alex, but the ioniq5 looks like a malformed blob. The Genesis looks like a sports hatchback, they actually did a decent job.
hahahaha it looks like a dead beluga whale
So the frunk line being where it is was probably the best choice. [Pushes up designer glasses] You have a couple options given the headlight design. First is inline with the bottom of the top lights. This might have the affect of making the bottom lights "float", which would look weird. You could extend the line equidistant between them but it'd gut in and look like a weird smile. What they did instead was put it offset in a way that's balanced with the distance form the bottom of the top light to the top of the bottom light. As a result it gives the entire area a connected feel and no one piece is apart.
I think it looks pretty good, personally.
Bruh the roll up cargo cover is literally the best way to do it.
Seeing Alex put the bottle in the trunk made me think what a great idea it is to leave a little bit of merch in every vehicle you test.
Alex sees a litlle compartiment in the car, and automatically thinks of hiding weed there. GENIOUS :)
Always enjoy seeing the automotive content! Personally, I'm still partial to the Ioniq 5. The price markup compared to the Ioniq 5 and EV6 doesn't feel very justified. Sure, it's a pretty vehicle with a very different aesthetic, and it has cool tech, but I'll take an Ioniq any day.
I *think* I’m moving more toward the EV6 as cars on this platform go. The two are about the same price (depending on exactly what spec you want) and exactly the same battery size. It’s really whether you want to give up a little bit of the Ioniq’s space for the bit of extra range the more streamlined shape of the EV6 gets you in return.
Plus, neither are as ugly as either the Ioniq 6 or this Genesis.
@@IainLambert , have you seen the Ioniq 6 in person? I agree it looked weird in close up promos but I saw it in a Kdrama recently and it actually grew on me a lot from normal distances.
@@IainLambert I actually like the Ioniq 6 a fair bit, more so than the EV6 and GV60, but the Ioniq 5 still takes the cake. I take bigger issue with the SUV version from Kia that has been teased, but that's yet to have the production version shown. I can't really get into the EV6 since the smaller interior space is something that doesn't appeal to me, nor does the fiddly HVAC/Audio controls. The outside is super stylish, but after having test driven and enjoyed the Ioniq 5, I'll either pick up an Ultimate version or wait for the N version.
Well, when one's available for me to even buy, that is. lol
@@emma70707 I’ve still not seen it in reality yet, no - local dealership is still advertising their upcoming preview event. By the time I’m ready for a second EV it will have arrived, so I’ll see what I really think. Got a lot to do to beat the EV6 for me, though.
@@Just_a_commenter I need to sit in an Ioniq 5 again to be sure, but I had no problem in the back of an EV6 myself. Re: climate touchscreen weirdness, every owner tells me they just leave it in climate mode - all the radio settings are on the wheel and top screen as well, so you don’t really need the dual purpose thing.
Why does the text say it would be charging with a speed of up to 350 kWh, not kW?! Great Video!
4:39 -- watching this video on my phone and I didn't have it full screen. I was laughing so hard thinking that was a shot of Yvonne getting in the car...
The gear selector turning over when the car turns on might be the most stupid thing ever. It’s just another unnecessary thing to break and when it does break, you’re fucked. You can turn your car on but can’t put it into gear.
I think Alex deserves a EV Auto channel.
I would watch all days.
Minor note for the editor: 350kW charging, not kWh. Kilowatts are a unit of power, which is what you’re measuring for charge speed. Kilowatt-hours are a unit of energy, which is what you’re measuring for how much of the battery capacity you charged.
In addition to this, E-GMP vehicles can not charge at 350KW. There max is around 235KW. The website is alittle misleading in its wording. "When charging at 350kW with the ultra-speed charging function, the battery can be charged from 10 percent to 80 percent in just 18 minutes." In order to get the max charge power you have to charge at a 350KW DC Fast Charger, which would allow you to reach the cars max charge power of 235KW.
I hope there is an aftermarket speaker this thing can support. Alex's face for the sound test is even funnier than he walks in when Linus is trying on that skirt. :3
I feel like this is the car for the middle aged dad, that needed to please the dragon and got a sporty car that's also good to have kids in.
I feel like the design of this car is gonna grow on me. Similar to how the new gen Elantra's have grown on me. Hyundai/Genesis are really taken chances on their designs, and I'm all for it. Hopefully other car brands start taking after them
if you love the corvette C6, then sure
Loving the ev content, keep it coming!
Every single Hyundai/Kia group car review from this channel has had the incorrect charging speed quoted. Max speed is 240kW on a 350kW charger...the E-GPM vehicles cannot charge at 350kW.
Manual components are lighter, and less prone to failure and ballooned repair costs.
Obviously there are certain components you want to be automated, like rain activated lights and wipers, but the blinds? That’s chill.
They have a stupid flippy gear selector so im sure they can have electronic blinds
I can’t imagine standing with my face forward like for 3+ seconds when getting in my car 😂
I really want to see more EVs that are sedans that actually compete with the tesla model 3. Most are luxury vehicles and SUVs or both.
The market for sedan is shrinking so oem wants to focus on cross over and suv first. Sedans will come later like the Ioniq 6
@@sentryion3106 yeah it's sad. i hate driving SUVs and cross overs feel weird. They use soo much more energy too so it's sad this is the way we are going. unless these same people have solar panels and are powering the cars 100% solar/renewable it feels very wasteful energy wise.
As for luxury vehicles, well electric cars cost a lot, they almost have add luxury to create values, cause it’s expensive either way.
@@robertt9342 I disagree. Tesla’s model 3 isn’t luxury class that’s its model S. Everything competitive with Tesla is more against the S but for less than it is the model 3.
grat job on the video and the lighting on alex face way better than the previous video keep up the good work !
In July 2022, Reuters reported that SMART, a Hyundai subsidiary in Luverne, Alabama, U.S.A. had hired minors as young as 12 years old to work in one of its metal stamping plants.
"Manual peasant blockers" I love it.
Best car review yet. Alex just keeps getting better and better.
I would disagree with the design, but I think the color on this car matters. Someone in my parking garage has this car in Green(I guess they call it "SAO PAULO LIME "), and it looks amazing. I originally though it was an Aston Martin.
hahahahaha
Hi alex!
I own a 2022 genesis g70 with the Lexicon speaker system, and theres a couple things id like to let you know about!!
In my genesis, when you use apple carplay or android auto, the sound quality is pretty reduced. When you use the bluetooth functionality that works great, however, the sound quality is amazing. I think this may be the source of your very mid sound experience in the car! Also, as for the sound stage, there is a setting to change the surround sound from « in the audience » to « on stage ». For me, this hugely improved the surround sound in the car.
Thanks so much for checking out genesis and always making great videos!!! Have a wonderful day :)
And that shouldn't be a problem. It's an oversight that the quality is lessened.
I really liked the Lexicon system in the G80.. this is not as good.
@@alexanderclark9719 Does it still sould as bad when playing through bluetooth and not through android/apple auto?
@@AlexPotvin Youre right, its pretty annoying! thankfully the infotainment in genesis is really snappy and fast, so its not PAINFUL to not use carplay lol
Love these Videos with Alex and Andy!
When he brought Linus on I thought this was his new car for a moment.
The Tesla commentary about nanny's kicking in is very misleading. (8:40) . The Model Y Performance has an extremely versatile and adjustable track mode that allows adjustable front / rear torque vectoring and traction assist levels from 0 to 10 (and includes presets like Drift Mode). Not to take away from the GV60, but this is a poor mark on the review that shows an incorrect comparison. Tesla's implementation is very, VERY good, not at all close to the illustration in this review.
I wasn't too interesting until you mentioned it has an infinite baffle subwoofer. I'm not too surprised it's not good at clarity, but I've always wanted to put one in a car. Extremely interesting design choice. Granted, someone else has probably also done something like this but I haven't really looked for like a decade.
Is there a way rotate the orb manually for WHEN (not if) it stops rotating on its own?
keep the EV coverage coming!
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The empty slot on the passanger side where the mirror adjustment is on the driver side, is most likely done like that to make it possible to move the adjustment for cars in England etc where they drive on the opposite side.
What was the software version of the audio system you tested the vehicle on? The latest software update fixes the speakers and it now sounds like an entirely different set of audio system altogether.
I feel like ShortCircuit just became an Alex EV car review channel first and foremost... and I'm not mad about it.
Y'know what? I kinda get the styling
Reminds me of the atomic-age styling in the '50s and '60s and how things were made to mimic jet fighters. The colour's also reminiscent of that, I like it!
In future videos, would you please take a minute or two to go over storage/cargo space? We all know that "frunks" are terrible, but one of the primary reasons to get a hatchback is the rear cargo area.
It looks like a car the old SsangYong made if they're going into EV market.
3:29 hey, I have these camera strap thingies too!! Super useful.
Appreciate the nerdy graphs that can be paused and looked at without wasting minutes reading them to the viewer.
Would love to see some reviews for Polestar EV's
I actually really like the look of the vehicle. Not a fan of that particular color nor white interior...but the shape and style is very nice. As far as who it's made for, it reminds me of the Lexus RX series in the same sense of comfort and some pep to it's step. If I could afford a car, and was going to get an EV then both of the Genesis EVs you've reviewed would probably be at the top of my list.
Yeah seems like regular cars are almost as expensive as houses now. Even used cars are over $15k USD.
@@kingzach74. Depends on age, model, mileage.
Yeah, I'm a fan of all the EGMP-platform EVs, but I think it's weird that a lot of reviewers I watch seem to love the styling of the Ioniq 5 and the EV6, but think the GV60 looks ugly. I think they are all pretty striking, but also a little head-tilting in their own way. None of them looks fully "normal." And of the three, I think the GV60 is the most traditionally handsome.
Really appreciate the comments on sound sytems in all these cars. Many people ignore that
The background music 6:17 is basically "CLUB BANGER 3000" but unironically.
I want to see how Andy does in a Plaid S, I think you could get more than a grunt out of him. Also no reverse burnout donuts?
Love the review! The speakers were what let me down when testing this car and drove me to the Model Y. I love a long car ride, and some loud music to go with it; the Tesla system was a surprise winner outside of the super expensive optional speakers in cars from Merc, BMW, and Volvo.
Otherwise, the Genesis was a more special car to be in. Range and charging was also a big factor in picking the Tesla. The main downside is the build quality of the Tesla... rattles in a $65k car is super disappointing.
Good review!
At 2:04, they should have blurred out the dog's face too. 😄
The voice memo part reminds me of dankpods lmao.
It's not illegal to pass on a double yellow, just a bad idea. Yellow lines are "make your best effort" and solid white lines are "do not touch".
If you gave kids a button to control the rear blinds, you would immediately regret the car purchase lol
That opening door wipe mask transition at the start of the third block, though!!!!
12:20 passing on a double solid yellow in clear conditions isn't illegal in Ontario! They're just a guideline, we have dedicated no-passing signage. The double yellow is for fining someone in result of an accident.
the good thing about the lack of turning radius is that remote parking is standard and you can do it from outside the vehicle
As a person with a child. I’m just imagining Hot Cheeto dust getting on that shifter and then that Cheeto dust forever being stuck in the console when it flips.
holy shit
Oh man I'm so hyped for the Ioniq 5 N. Let's hope they give it to us asap.
I hated this car when I first saw it but it's been growing on me. In fact the whole genesis brand is slowly becoming one of my favorites, mainly because they are keeping a lot of manual controls and the cars are really good quality
I think the lack of a frunk is due to the fact that the electric sled concept where the batteries, electrical components and motors at the wheels, is expensive to engineer and manufacture.
It is supposed to be easier because one sled design can have multiple bodies on top, but it may have turned out to be impractical.
All the large amperage equipment and the cooling required means it’s easier to put that stuff up front like a traditional engine.
only I noticed him almost hitting the road pole when he was talking about the turns? lol
I'd love to see more affordable EVs for the masses! In general of course but there's a lack of LTT EV reviews with affordable ones. IIRC they never mentioned the MG 4.
But I understand it's more enthusiastically enjoyable to watch these expensive EV reviews and at least they progress the technology!
As an Ioniq 5 owner:
Same frunk/froot as an AWD Ioniq 5 (RWD is a bit bigger)
Same cargo cover as Ioniq 5 (sucks I don't have it in my car, collecting dust in my garage somewhere)
Same I-pedal software issue (putting I pedal off, but I'm used to driving in lvl 3 now and using the left steering wheel pedal to brake extra and hold to stop the car's crouching away)
Way more horsepower in this one, o m g!
Awesome gearshifter, I want that!
I don't think I would switch but I wouldn't mind it as an extra car lol
2:53 i think you were supposed to type kw and not kwh. those are two very different things. 🙂
Interesting tidbit - the i-pedal mode doesn't last through key cycles (latch) for EPA/mileage reasons. This platform is the only other vehicle besides the Rivian that has an active driveline disconnect - basically, it disconnects the front axle under light load/cruising conditions for better efficiency. This feature is disabled in i-pedal mode, I presume for stability reasons (driving all that regen into the back axle in a low mu situation would probably be bad). But, this means i-pedal is likely worse for highway fuel efficiency. And you have to certify your mileage for the least efficient mode that persists between sleep cycles.
This is also why your auto stop-start re-engages every time you shut the car off, and most ICE vehicles default to the eco/normal mode even if you park them in Spot.
"Manual peasant blockers" - Alex 2023
I just saw one in person last week and it looks exceptional
A divet in the roof for tall people to put their heads? Genius! That way a 15 MPH fender-bender can snap your head off your spine like a Tootsie Pop!
Bro deserves a pay rise, I always watch the car reviews by him over other professional car reviewers :)
Only people I trust along with The Straight Pipes
@@NoahVanNest1 the straight pipes are pretty boring though, Throttle House is miles better tbh
0:12 coming from the man who happily drives a chevy volt
*Volt not Bolt, although he recently got a Porsche
@@ahwleung sorry not north american gm doesnt exist where i live
"(on frunk) yea no one has really done anything with that idea", except Tesla where you can store a cabin trolley + misc. Why the Germans (ID + Enyaq) cannot even fit anything there is beyond me. Its a huge deal when you are traveling with a big family.
The GV60 - driving straight through a garage door near you soon
Having reviewed this one and the ionic 5, can you guys review the Kia EV6?
What other grocery getter has 500 hp? A chager, a jeep trackhawk, a dodge durango. I'd love to see a hellcat review on here!
I kinda like then look of it, though i dont really like fake grilles, or excessively large ones for that matter and i still dont like those door handles. Also the front compartment seems reasonable to store accessories, like for example charging cables.
But what annoys me more then it probably should is people using kWh and kW wrong.
3:28 We need Lambo doors with those 808s sound FX when shut
PG544 if anyone is wondering 12:23
I own a Kia EV6 GTLine2 and there's no way I could justify jumping to the GV60. As beautiful as the interior and tech are, I can't do it.
The trunk won't automatically open if the doors are unlocked
Lol, that passenger "mirror adjuster" looked like a nug grinder compartment
I'm so deep in the Apple garden that Genesis/BMW are the only cars I'm able to consider - glad LTT is covering these!
So many short circuit we are eating good
waiting for the LTT video
I like the way it looks. Makes wanna own that EV.
What kind of car does Alex drive?
Let's all go and nitpick his car.
It'll be a pain to use that face scanner when it's icy/snowy; probably even rain.
Did I just hear "Genesis you're not trying to do blah-blah-blah in 2002"?
hey that guy just passed me
hits the "sport mode button"
The fact that they're not including wireless Android Auto support in an vehicle in this price range, let alone it being an EV, just baffles me. That should be starting to become standard in any AA car at this point.
I mean my new Kia Rio has wireless Android Auto for gods sake and it's and entry level vehicle.
“I hate that when electric vehicles started getting popular we were promised that they would all have a frunk” huh? Who told you that? Who’s making promises like that to you?
Whoever it was, they failed to take into account that cars like the EV6 have such short, packed front ends that the froot isn’t big enough to hold anything beyond your charging cable anyway.
What's with the 90s eagle talon look coming back?
Can you fill the flippy gear select with chips and lolly parts and dirt and dust to see how long wit works
i guess taste really is subjective, i liked the look of this car and thought the "best look ev" looked boring af
"I mean the grille is probably necessary, it's an electric car"
EVs generate heat too. EVs need to actively cool batteries, motors, and probably other components as well.
Why would an EV not need openings for airflow?
Frunks are rarely used, so manufacturers are ditching them.
Lol Shoutout to Newfoundland's contribution to Canadian news.
Great video by Alex more videos with Alex is always good. Is there a reason why mid-roll ads on this video and on Short Circuit. I know LTT videos do not have mid-roll ads even on the WAN show. Like I got served an ad after right after the sponsorship in the middle. I know I personally would refer have 2 sponsorships one beginning and one end than having a mid-roll add.
Likely answer: sponsors probably pay more to have the ad in the middle of a video than at the beginning or at the end, although of course I have no idea how much of a difference there is.
@@leonro I definitely do get that and don't completely mind, I more annoyed when I watch an ad in the video then get served one by UA-cam right after.