@ low tier it’s good, in a battle game on seversk 13 I was on their point, in the open, sitting on a very small dip, and was easy pickings. I got two enemy’s and held my ground for over 2 minutes, critica hitting most enemies, and all by going around the side and just charging in. Fun. Cuz the panzers just walked right into it, gotta love tow tier confidence,
1:25 Spookston, this is only the case for aircraft, not for tanks. For tanks this is modeled properly, for some reason. This game is consistent at being inconsistent.
@@AutumnDeIight it's still 30 mm side armor which is not enough to fully prevent .50 cals from penetrating. Besides in the video Spookston gets one of his crew taken out by a US heavy firing .50 cals.
@@flipallthetables793 you will need to be up his ass if you want to pen him and straight at that... then you also have RNG in there as well and all the other addon armor and modules blocking the way or shattering the bullet
@@flipallthetables793 you can see it on the test drive, get the BMP-2M and fire the mixed belts and you'll notice the HE rounds dropping short of the AP ones
The heavy use of Snoopy for reactions in this feels very appropriate for the fall and winter holiday season we've entered While Snoopy himself was a proud American CAS supporter, I'm sure he could appreciate a fellow war dog putting his image to use regardless of the vehicles used
100% I can almost guarantee I played against Sppoks in a toxic lobby of Halo2/Halo3. Its also how I know he is approximately close to the same age as me! Brings back some good memories
@@clevernamegotban1752 being able to flank and punish people for pushing you side on? skill based gameplay? cant have that, shouldnt be allowed. also funny how all the HVAP autocannon(gau 30mm and 25mm, 20mm rh202 and ww2, any 30mm that isnt russian and so on) nerfs pretty much purely stopped them from killing soviet tanks side on while also making them unfun to use on anything else (including m18s being made a slog to hose down with a 7.0 vehicle with no mobility).
12:20 That Ratel got so gaijined, his round disabled the front and back half of your tank when he shot you side on and did nothing else, entire middle was fine
01:15 is that a ground thing only? Because in Naval the 25mm of the USS Cyclone is unusable when APDS and HE are mixed. HE 25mm act like mortars while the APDS rounds are railguns.
What happened with that T32 is that the rounds went through the rear armor, flew through the space between the top of the engine and the bottom of the engine deck armor, then punched through the firewall to reach the crew compartment
Day 36 of telling spookston to play the IT1. its a ATGM launcher on the t62 chassis, it has decent-ish mobility, the turret is squished. You can hide behind cover and shoot ATGM over the cover like a gremlin and you overpressure tanks (tho it can be rare, but it does happen without you realizing) and its MG is really werid. Also it has a cool reload animation.
One of the most overtiered tanks in the game. Even after the pen and the ammount of HVAP got reduced it's still 7.0. It even sucks at shooting down planes since it fights Jets and is literally 0.3 BR below Radar AA.
Day 2 of asking Spookston to use the Japanese M24 at the BR range of vehicles from around 1952, which is when Japan first got their M24s. If you want to have an extra challenge, try using it at the BR range of vehicles from around 1974, which is when it was taken out of service. Would make for a VERY interesting video... :)
Mans probably not going to see this, but I have the Magnum Opus of plane bs. I had a match where an enemy spawned a fully loaded Thunderbolt without getting a kill, cap, assist, scout, or even a penetrating hit. He knocked off a single track and got shot a bit. If Spookston is interested, I can probably still find the replay. At the very least I have the screenshots I sent to a friend
I played this alot recently while trying to spade the vehicles in the German ground tech tree I moved on from before I finished, it was a mixture of pain and fun. It's an amazingly good Anti-Air, and a pretty decent ground killer, but I never really saw it's true ground potential till the last match I had with it before spading it. Great video as always though!
Fun fact: if Ostwind II the fake SPAA stays, we should get the Israeli super stealth fighter from 1978, the IAI Aryeh - it is not known yet if any were built.
@@yosef_tetro there are more. IIRC the wirbelwind also had no power traverse, the Ostwind II as you said is fake, E-100 is fake, the 2 Ho-Ri are fake, the 3 R2Y2 are fake and likely many more
You should play the Centurion MK 5 AVRE! It's british, the HESH is funny (when it works), but it's also quite tanky* (* not guaranteed against 5000 kilograms of TNT)
since you said the ratel 90 wasn't bad, you should play the objectively awful ratel version; the ratel 20. it has the same bad mobility as the 90, but with the same weapons as the marder IFV, which doesn't sound bad at first, until you realise you're expected to fight king tigers and jumbo pershings with 7 slow moving ATGMs and an autocannon that can't even pen a panther's side (day 10)
In the nicest way possible, thats a skill issue, the Milans can go through the IS-3s front plate, and the autocannon can disable it if you miss It's one of the few good vehicles at the middle tier for Britain
Spookston I summon you to play the Ta-Se, a 1.7 japanese spaa armed with a 20mm autocannon that has 20 round magazines firing AP that penetrates 47mm of armour.
5:45 the poor guy got himself as far as turning around the entire game only for you to ruin in. Now youre just continuing the cycle that you suffer from
Play the M4A3 (105) (the french variant for extra fun),it has EVERYTHING Spookston -despises- loves; slow reload,slow speed,slow turret turning speed,slow ammo velocity AND, because it's so slow,you can -regret your life decisions- plan your strike on the enemy team! (that you will fail because the round will end before your turret turns.)
10:25 Shell shattered happened because you shot through a fence with Hvap (HVAP is another version of APDS which also shatters when it does through something)
Day 140 You should play a tank with hydropneumatic suspension (recommend the MBT-70) But the catch is you have to drop the suspension as low as it can go for the whole match.
Wish Gaijin would partner with whatever the name of the new halo company is so they can release a halo sound effects package. The audio is already iffy as is so it wouldn’t mess with gameplay much. The edits literally fit perfectly with what happens. If they can get people to spend hundreds of dollars on tanks and planes I’m sure they could sell it for like 30-40 bucks and people would buy it
I would love to see a video on all these little knowledge tidbits about War Thunder. Randomly dropping that the first bullet in the belt determines the speed of the rest of the belt blew my mind. Totally have to rethink the ammo I take on some of my AA guns now. Its stuff like that, from years of playing, that really helps out people that may play a lot, but don't have the breadth of generic niche information about the game.
If you like goofy vehicles, I recommend the Chi-Ha Short Gun. "Oh, you were designed to blow up submarines and boats? Well too bad, you're fighting tanks in the steppes of Kuban now." No-one ever seems to talk that much about the little big Japanese trumpet tank, and it's actually pretty fun to play once you get used to it.
Shell shatter isn't new, but this is Gaijin, so it keeps getting stealth changed all the time. That HVAP shell type is APCR. All APCR will seemingly straight up shatter if it impacts a slope or at an angle.. Play one of the 20, 30mm autocannon rat tanks whose default stock ammo type includes APCR (belts that show rounds with black-tipped green-striped) and you'll find out real quick how stupid and not fun it is. You'll fail to penetrate targets you know you can kill, simply because you shot them at a slight angle. One last thing, autocannons on tanks with mixed shell types have different muzzle velocity, 'all-same-speed' isn't a thing.
Decal link: tinyurl.com/42thwzv3
Still not entirely sure how I pulled this off honestly
Day 16 of asking for the AMX M4 good pen mobility fire power and relode
Under 1 minute
Day 12 of asking for t-44 (use the br-367 trust me it’s really good)
PLAY STURER EMIL DAY 123
Day 242 of asking spookston to play the AMR.35 ZT3
Play the Hungarian Csaba! It’s awful but a goofy vehicle.
I thought he has
and it is one of the worst vehicles in the game :)
@ I’ve recently had success. But because I played it at its BR only, and played either really cautious or like what it is, scout car cannon fodder
I would also like to see that in one of the videos! 😅 That tank is so clumsy, I love it! XDD
@ low tier it’s good, in a battle game on seversk 13 I was on their point, in the open, sitting on a very small dip, and was easy pickings. I got two enemy’s and held my ground for over 2 minutes, critica hitting most enemies, and all by going around the side and just charging in. Fun. Cuz the panzers just walked right into it, gotta love tow tier confidence,
1:25 Spookston, this is only the case for aircraft, not for tanks. For tanks this is modeled properly, for some reason. This game is consistent at being inconsistent.
you're fucking kidding me
Good example being the falcon, as it’s SAP is way lower velocity than the apds when fired
I was under the impression it is modelled properly for both, I feel like the plane mounted MK103s perform properly at least
yes this is easiest to see with the bradley mixed ap, he belts. he falls shorter than ap when firing.
5:39 The way the B-29 just disintegrated like it had no will to live is so sad
I like the fact whenever the SPAA is fully enclosed the thing must have no lineup
Should be 6.7 honestly
It has a lineup tho, King Tiger 10.5 and Panther II are also 7.0
@@bassbusterxexcept both of those are now unobtainable so it might as well have no lineup for the vast majority of the player base.
Gaijin are just allergic to viable anti air
@bassbusterx counterpoint who regularly even had those vehicles anymore so it’s not sustainable
@@simplsquam
1. It’s 5.3
2. It has a lineup
“Can’t be .50 cal:ed”
Me: Sees the paper thin side of the Pz.IV.
I beg to differ.
It’s a late panzer 4 so it has better side armour, you’re thinking of the c and e
It’s a late panzer chassis though
@@AutumnDeIight it's still 30 mm side armor which is not enough to fully prevent .50 cals from penetrating.
Besides in the video Spookston gets one of his crew taken out by a US heavy firing .50 cals.
@@flipallthetables793 50 cal has 31mm armor penetration flat from point blank
any angle or distance will make the 30mm of armor immune to 50 cals
@@flipallthetables793 you will need to be up his ass if you want to pen him and straight at that... then you also have RNG in there as well and all the other addon armor and modules blocking the way or shattering the bullet
the first shell velocity in belt thing is only for planes. ground vehicle belt has independent velocity for each shell
Came to the comments to say this
Has that been proven?
@@flipallthetables793 you can see it on the test drive, get the BMP-2M and fire the mixed belts and you'll notice the HE rounds dropping short of the AP ones
Oooooo, well, now I'm looking silly in my original comment.
@@Politovyeah goofy yeah stupid dummy
You know what would be EPIC? Playing the M56 ratatouille with ONLY HESH!!! Maybe this is a bad idea...
I tried this a few days ago, haven’t played wt since…
Yeah isn’t THAT bad on the m56. Got a king tiger with it by hitting the top plate
Jpz 4-5 HESH only challenge but 10x worse got it
@@illegalisntlegal shit forgot he did that...
Did a few de facto HESH only rounds when playing it more actively in 2023. I put the HESH in the firdt ammo slot snd was focusing on armoured cars
Spookston needs to play ST-A1. no day counter, just pure ST-A1.
with the armor of a light tank, the mobility of a heavy tank and the grace of a tank destroyer with that ungodly zoom, it's perfect.
real and true, it's actually a very good vehicle
ST series my beloved
Have taken the ST-A3 to 8.3 and it still performs really well
Actually true
either ST-A1 with the flat profile or the ST-A3 with the 6 second autoloader on the reliable 90mm M3
Day 137 of asking Spookston to play the ikv 72
It's coming, I can feel it.
@@themouthofsauron6926 I can feel you inside of me ❤
@@themouthofsauron6926 I agree
He already did
@@refurbishedaudio4090 your thinking of the ikv 73
The heavy use of Snoopy for reactions in this feels very appropriate for the fall and winter holiday season we've entered
While Snoopy himself was a proud American CAS supporter, I'm sure he could appreciate a fellow war dog putting his image to use regardless of the vehicles used
You know what else doesn't anti-shred?
The Conway, with peak British APDS
(Year 1 and Month 2)
one day
peak shell shattered
@@irirjhrhr4645 *cries in L1G*
The consistent original Halo trilogy soundbites and references are one of my most favourite parts of this channel lol
100% I can almost guarantee I played against Sppoks in a toxic lobby of Halo2/Halo3. Its also how I know he is approximately close to the same age as me! Brings back some good memories
5:57 HVAP used to be 95mm pen on Mk103
The M53/59 at 6.3 gets that pen
And the 20 mm Germany SPAA used to have like 64 mm of pen
@@EulerFinkwirblewinds used to be able to handle t34s from the side with ease.
@@clevernamegotban1752 being able to flank and punish people for pushing you side on? skill based gameplay? cant have that, shouldnt be allowed.
also funny how all the HVAP autocannon(gau 30mm and 25mm, 20mm rh202 and ww2, any 30mm that isnt russian and so on) nerfs pretty much purely stopped them from killing soviet tanks side on while also making them unfun to use on anything else (including m18s being made a slog to hose down with a 7.0 vehicle with no mobility).
I learned that the L33 has a variant with a flamethrower and no main armament in my professional opinion it should be added to warthunder
That would be too broken they can only add it as a top tier premium
$90 15.0 Russian premium
I mean it would be entirely useless, I spose 5% less than other flame vehicles due to the amount of cars running around but still
Counter argument funny
Lemme guess, you visited the museum.
12:20 That Ratel got so gaijined, his round disabled the front and back half of your tank when he shot you side on and did nothing else, entire middle was fine
5:40 the team's main character about to save a losing game, only to be faced against the enemy team's main character
💀
For being such a CAS hater, here he is doing exactly what makes cas hated
@@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave How? Shooting down a bomber isn't close-air support.
@@andyfriederichsen When people say CAS they mean Planes in GRB. And this is one of the most hated use of Planes in GRB.
@@peacefulgamer7560 It's almost as if most military planes were designed with air support in mind.
Spookston: Im starting to not like this vehicle
Also spookston: WE GOT A NUKE!
omg thanks for finally playing my favourite spaa i was requesting you for a while now
Now spookston should try the M42 Duster
Duster is surprisingly funny, and quick.
Agree
01:15 is that a ground thing only? Because in Naval the 25mm of the USS Cyclone is unusable when APDS and HE are mixed. HE 25mm act like mortars while the APDS rounds are railguns.
Ground and air
You NEED to play the fiat 6614, its a amazing light tank with over 400mm of pen, high speed, and decent enough reload.
I felt like you were a little bit more energetic today, glad to hear that you were having a blast!
Heard you like goblin tanks, then you will like the LePKz M41. It is essentially a M41 bulldog with HEATFS.
Day 31 (1 month! Yippe!)
Hey spookston this was a great video, keep up the great work!
What happened with that T32 is that the rounds went through the rear armor, flew through the space between the top of the engine and the bottom of the engine deck armor, then punched through the firewall to reach the crew compartment
spookston please have my future children
what the fuck
Day 36 of telling spookston to play the IT1. its a ATGM launcher on the t62 chassis, it has decent-ish mobility, the turret is squished. You can hide behind cover and shoot ATGM over the cover like a gremlin and you overpressure tanks (tho it can be rare, but it does happen without you realizing) and its MG is really werid. Also it has a cool reload animation.
10:09 "Our luck has been pretty terrible in finding light vehicles to shoot." He says after obliterating the entire manufacturing line of T92s 😂
Spookston should play the finnish ITO 90M it's a goofy finnish spaa
It's gonna be even more powerful when the update comes out because of the ammo crates
Shouldnt be in the french tech tree, dunno why it's there
@@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave it's a french missile launcher
One of the most overtiered tanks in the game. Even after the pen and the ammount of HVAP got reduced it's still 7.0. It even sucks at shooting down planes since it fights Jets and is literally 0.3 BR below Radar AA.
This may be random but I love the guy called "Drunk driving" at 14:40
Another funny anti air is the r3 t20 fa hs, it's not very deadly anymore against tanks but it still shreds air targets
Day 2 of asking Spookston to use the Japanese M24 at the BR range of vehicles from around 1952, which is when Japan first got their M24s. If you want to have an extra challenge, try using it at the BR range of vehicles from around 1974, which is when it was taken out of service. Would make for a VERY interesting video... :)
"oh no, they have my scent"
Jump cuts to another battle😂
kugelblitz being 7.0 is criminal
It's just annoying as you can make such an awesome 6.7 line up as well.
I love the random switches to the Warthog turret sound when firing. No indication or buildup, just Halo chain gun
Spookston trying desperately to resist adding Halo sounds to his videos: (impossible)
5:40 I can hear them slamming their desk
Giorno 30 of asking Spookston to play Lancia R3o (100/17), always present even if late.
AVANTI SAVOIA, I MUST STOP GETIN LATE!
Why the funny truck?
@@HMSYORKWhy not lol, plus it gets HESH
PER CAPORETTO
@@Canadian_Cossack Anti Concrete shell 🗣️
And he has to drive in reverse from spwan and can't drive forward ever
Mans probably not going to see this, but I have the Magnum Opus of plane bs. I had a match where an enemy spawned a fully loaded Thunderbolt without getting a kill, cap, assist, scout, or even a penetrating hit. He knocked off a single track and got shot a bit. If Spookston is interested, I can probably still find the replay. At the very least I have the screenshots I sent to a friend
0:04 Aw hell nah not the Panzer IV with a thicc back, man the austrian painter sure was kinky when it came to tank designs…
with that title, the vehicle could have really been lots of things...
the Gepard, the Begleitpanzer, most other german AAA's...
5:40 despicable behavior.
Eye for an eye and the whole world is blind
Absolutely despicable.
Bro brought on another 5 years of the CAS curse
I played this alot recently while trying to spade the vehicles in the German ground tech tree I moved on from before I finished, it was a mixture of pain and fun. It's an amazingly good Anti-Air, and a pretty decent ground killer, but I never really saw it's true ground potential till the last match I had with it before spading it. Great video as always though!
another wacky "tank," is the Antelope
the old Halo sounds are a great fit, makes me feel nostalgic! thx for the vid
That nuke kill was just sad. I'm disappointed in you spookston
I bet it was his first nuke too
They were winning tho so it was a defensive move but yeah its sad but had to be done
Not to be that guy but the game was pretty much over at that point
It was fair game though. Nuke was on the enemy team.
it was an enemy nuke, completely justified
the ones that kill allied nukes however, now that's a different story entirely
I like how he's genuinely amazed by his team actually helping at 2:34
Pathetic attempt number 70 at trying to get Spookton to play the Churchill VII
The suffering continues.
Can testify. 7 air kills, survived being strafed by multiple, survived a bomb, killed 3 tanks.
fun fact: it never had a powered turret traverse, so it should have like a 10 deg/s turret traverse speed.
That makes no sense for an SPAA
Fun fact: if Ostwind II the fake SPAA stays, we should get the Israeli super stealth fighter from 1978, the IAI Aryeh - it is not known yet if any were built.
@@yosef_tetro there are more. IIRC the wirbelwind also had no power traverse, the Ostwind II as you said is fake, E-100 is fake, the 2 Ho-Ri are fake, the 3 R2Y2 are fake and likely many more
@@o-hogameplay185 The E100 is sorta fake. The hull is real whilst the turret was never produced.
@@thatcrusader3922 in other words, its a fake tank
2nd attempt at asking Spookston to play the Csaba, as it is a fast and nimble tank that perfectly fits his style of play.
You should play the Centurion MK 5 AVRE! It's british, the HESH is funny (when it works), but it's also quite tanky*
(* not guaranteed against 5000 kilograms of TNT)
Spookston: Runs into only armored cars and tank destroyers
Me: Runs into a Tiger 2
since you said the ratel 90 wasn't bad, you should play the objectively awful ratel version; the ratel 20. it has the same bad mobility as the 90, but with the same weapons as the marder IFV, which doesn't sound bad at first, until you realise you're expected to fight king tigers and jumbo pershings with 7 slow moving ATGMs and an autocannon that can't even pen a panther's side (day 10)
The Ratel 20 is better than the 90, the Milan ATGM is great
@@singeslayer8367you’re funny😂
In the nicest way possible, thats a skill issue, the Milans can go through the IS-3s front plate, and the autocannon can disable it if you miss
It's one of the few good vehicles at the middle tier for Britain
@@Mrpancake21Milan is an excellent atgm
@@гига-нигга explain bro it’s Horrible at 8.0
Spookston I summon you to play the Ta-Se, a 1.7 japanese spaa armed with a 20mm autocannon that has 20 round magazines firing AP that penetrates 47mm of armour.
Fiat 6614 when 👀👀
spookston's editing style brings me such joy i can't articulate it
Day Eighty two of asking Spookston to play the SU-100 (The one based on the T-34).
No matter what, you've just got to not quit.
I found Character ai of spookston
It said Cas was fair and basically said skill issue
Day 14 of asking spookston to play the m1 Abrams 105
4:47 That one time Spookston REALLY liked CAS
Video 26 of asking for the 5.3 challenger
The Halo Rotary MG sound brings back so many memories, those were the days...
0:41, what plane?! I've replayed like 3 times, paused it and still can't see it. I'm playing the classic warthunder game of smudge or plane.
Don’t play in 1080p. It’s pain.
Looks like the F4U
Killfeed says it's an F2G.
The sound effect when you kill a light is hilarious! 😂
Spookston trying to not play a rat vehicle (impossible)
You should play the EBR 1954 or 1963. They are quite enjoyable to watch.
5:45 the poor guy got himself as far as turning around the entire game only for you to ruin in. Now youre just continuing the cycle that you suffer from
You should finish the T-44 saga by playing the original T-44 with the 85mm. It has speed, armour, and a decent gun!
Play the M4A3 (105) (the french variant for extra fun),it has EVERYTHING Spookston -despises- loves; slow reload,slow speed,slow turret turning speed,slow ammo velocity AND, because it's so slow,you can -regret your life decisions- plan your strike on the enemy team! (that you will fail because the round will end before your turret turns.)
I love the halo edits so much, I audibly chuckled at the grunt birthday party sound effects
i am actually cried about that shotdown enemy nuke 😢
10:25 Shell shattered happened because you shot through a fence with Hvap (HVAP is another version of APDS which also shatters when it does through something)
5:42 Pure evil...
Yes absolutely despicable
Spookston: "but atleast it cant be .50 cal'd."
Also spookston: *talks how it can be .50 cal'd on the sides
5:32 I am unironically Unsubscribing because of this
Womp Womp
@@RedSkyOmega Nuh uh
Why people get upset if someone kills the enemy nuke? That's why the nule siren exist in the game, you need to kill the nule plane or you will lose
Womp Womp!
Bye Bye!
I was watching shorts and the notification appeared.
Thank you for saving me from shorts doom scrolling.
5:30 Hurt people hurt people spook :(
True... :
you seemed to have enjoyed using the anti-everything tank, now its time for you to use the Black Prince, the anti-fun tank
NANO an spookston uploaded within an hour! This must be a dream
For how American Spookston sounds I’m really impressed by his pronunciation of French tank names
Attempt 32 at trying to get spookston to play warthunder on a Chromebook
Yo spookston I appreciate you so much. Your videos always make me laugh and have a good time. Thanks so much. Keep up the awesome work.
You can .50 cal the turret above the guns, because gaijin didnt model the front correctly, nor did they bother fixing it after reporting it.
Day maybe like 12 I think of asking spookston to play the leopard one though he won’t for at least a year
Day 140 You should play a tank with hydropneumatic suspension (recommend the MBT-70) But the catch is you have to drop the suspension as low as it can go for the whole match.
Love the music. My whole childhood right here. Even had the Halo CE sidewinder reference. godbless you
Spookson shot down a nuke plane...his villain arc is complete
I love your videos, really help me improve my War thunder Skill
Attempt 27 at getting Spookston to play the Soviet rank 2 ZSU-37 ratmobile
3:37 Spookston forgetting he is using Hvap and it goes through the entire tank.
If you want to have truly a different experience in WT please play the strangest T-34 in the game, the Pr.1124!
Wish Gaijin would partner with whatever the name of the new halo company is so they can release a halo sound effects package. The audio is already iffy as is so it wouldn’t mess with gameplay much. The edits literally fit perfectly with what happens. If they can get people to spend hundreds of dollars on tanks and planes I’m sure they could sell it for like 30-40 bucks and people would buy it
I would love to see a video on all these little knowledge tidbits about War Thunder. Randomly dropping that the first bullet in the belt determines the speed of the rest of the belt blew my mind. Totally have to rethink the ammo I take on some of my AA guns now. Its stuff like that, from years of playing, that really helps out people that may play a lot, but don't have the breadth of generic niche information about the game.
This by far is my Fav tank to play in WT. I don't even care about being up-tiered. I didn't know about the velocity of the first round thing though!
I love the halo sounds, new favorite Warthunder channel
If you like goofy vehicles, I recommend the Chi-Ha Short Gun.
"Oh, you were designed to blow up submarines and boats? Well too bad, you're fighting tanks in the steppes of Kuban now."
No-one ever seems to talk that much about the little big Japanese trumpet tank, and it's actually pretty fun to play once you get used to it.
Shell shatter isn't new, but this is Gaijin, so it keeps getting stealth changed all the time.
That HVAP shell type is APCR. All APCR will seemingly straight up shatter if it impacts a slope or at an angle.. Play one of the 20, 30mm autocannon rat tanks whose default stock ammo type includes APCR (belts that show rounds with black-tipped green-striped) and you'll find out real quick how stupid and not fun it is. You'll fail to penetrate targets you know you can kill, simply because you shot them at a slight angle. One last thing, autocannons on tanks with mixed shell types have different muzzle velocity, 'all-same-speed' isn't a thing.