I know prices are up but I have not seen that yet. Not even close here. Ironically the barn siding I'm using for the ends has not gone up a bit. Go figure.
common sights in coastal Maine are structures like this of 1x3’s and blocks covered with poly. They build boats in them. Having done carpentry work in a greenhouse I can say the lighting must be excellent.
Really brilliant example-illustration how frame works! Construction code composers should thing about changing their family doctor for prescriptions. How is it now?
I am adding a floor of busted concrete and sand. It is free material and will make a much more solid floor for driving on. I should have that video up in a few days.
I have used that method when building for other people but I like the flexibility of putting fasteners anywhere - especially when I don't have any set plan. When I built the structure I didn't even know if I was going to use metal roofing.
For the sheathing 1/2 inch (nominal) it is actually 31/64ths but I think that is just to confuse the average person. Arches are 3/4 (whatever funky fraction that is). I need to make a short video on how I cut the scarf joints... note to self "get on it".
I think much of the problem with bending solid wood is the variation in grain and inherent weaknesses that make it a bit less predictable. I am quite sure that many arch structures have been built by bending solid wood. I don't know how much you have to worry about breaking. There may be special measures that you need to take when bending solid wood. I do not know. One of the reasons that using plywood was suggested is that the alternate grain directions provides more strength overall. I don't know if that is true, I am not a structural engineer. I can say that my methods of bending the arches was quite successful using plywood. However, it was not a perfect success. You should choose a good quality plywood and be careful to look out for voids that could be present.
@@AndrewBrenner1 but my thinking is that the curves almost seem to be irrelevant in other words if you built a large enough curb around your skylight just cut your square opening and then Mount your skylight up against some blocking yeah maybe there is some curves to work around but I'm sure it could be done maybe I shouldn't have skipped out of class that day
Any way to get those thin Arch walls to R-30 insulation rating? Is a build with thicker walls possible? Home depot says they wont cut thinner than 12" wide. Anybody ever try to get a structure like this to pass as a primary dwelling in Florida?
If you do not want any windows in your primary dwelling it might be doable. I doubt if any residential dwelling will allow 4 foot on center for structural support. Locally I have had both Lowes and Home Depot cut 4 inch strips. You may want to reconsider how badly you want an arched building vs. the practical use as a primary dwelling. I can't imagine even hanging a picture on an arched wall.
@@speakeasydoorman4966 Yeah - I would not recommend it as a primary residence. Maybe some place really remote that does not require inspections and where getting materials in is very expensive... and there are no materials you can source locally to make a structure like a log cabin.
@@AndrewBrenner1 I'm in Fiji Some things can be a challenge to obtain This concept is about as easy as a build can be Roof and walls all in one Here the temperature never changes more than 10° Not matter what time if day or year Temps 72-82°F One could go 4 on center I'd probably go 2' on center..... certainly no need for any insulation here Traditional houses here have open beam Usually high ceiling for the warmth to collect then vent out One could create a short wall or a wall to hang pics then to the arch radius All easy to do
fast forward two years and add all the inflation plus an extra 25% cuz who knows why and you can buy 5 sheets of plywood for 500, this doesnt include the 100 dollar tank of gas it takes for the trips to the store
If you pick the play list for the "$500 shed you will see several. Latest one is about putting siding on one end. Would love to hear your comments on the door design for the other end (big door opening)
@@AndrewBrenner1 Roll up canvas door. Several videos on UA-cam. You first would need to front in a rectangular opening then overlap the canvas. I also wonder how well bathroom plastic wall sheets 4X8 sheets work for roofing material.(you may have to mount with slotted holes and lightly nailed, like you mount siding to allow for expansion). Also the white color would reflect the sun keeping it much cooler in the summertime. A solar heater could keep you warm in the wintertime.
@@c50ge The main problem is that the opening is not rectangular. If it were - a regular garage door would be mighty appealing. I might try some form of tarp arrangement for this winter though.
Plywood must be VERY expensive where you live. The concrete was just old blocks that I had left over. 6x6 are fairly expensive but I got them dumpster diving. Also I only purchased a couple of the 2x12's. I hate to see things go to waste.
@@AndrewBrenner1 $50 sheet. I counted roughly 32 sheets on that building. I am guessing the walls are 32'x16'. I applaud being frugal and reusing materials. But i felt the title was misleading by omission.
@@timengland2475 I have never seen any type of plywood at those prices and could probably not bring myself to pay that much if I did. I don't even spend that much on oak veneer plywood. If you watch the video you will note that it is my version of a $500 shed that was built using OSB. I chose plywood over OSB for durability and cannot comment on preferences to spend more or less on building materials. I'm sorry if you feel mislead in any way.
@@AndrewBrenner1 OSB has it's uses but i agree that plywood is more durable. I wish costs here were as low as in your area, especially since i live in a lumber producing area. It did not occur to me that costs are different everywhere. It should have. And the local cost does piss me off, but if you have to build something, you pay what it costs.
I haven't finished yet. Many things were not purchased like the 6x6 posts and the cement blocks. I should look through the old Lowes bills to make an estimate.
Maybe you mean 1 foot and 5 feet from the peak. I think the point of a Gothic Arch is supposed to be that you get more open space and don't need the bracing trusses.
@@AndrewBrenner1 Yes from the peak, I know the Gothic Arch is supposed to be open but they are usually made from 4x8 or 2x4 solid timbers and then sill have metal or plywood gussets, A man in St johns made one really well, he used 2 layers of plywood both sides, Glue, and good ridge beam and it looked very solid, but he still only put plastic over it, i think this design is 99% used with green houses or metal, i don't think the wood sheeting is making it stronger if the ribs can't support the extra load.
@@That1ufo Thanks for the info! I have some other videos that show where I put metal roofing on it. I do sort of "take advantage" of the fact that it is not super rigid as sometime I bruise the lower walls with the bobcat lifting mechanisms or the top of the tractor tires.
Plywood sheets at $55-$70 would make this a $5k shed today!
I know prices are up but I have not seen that yet. Not even close here. Ironically the barn siding I'm using for the ends has not gone up a bit. Go figure.
@@AndrewBrenner1 How about now? Where do you live that prices have stayed so low?
@@ThomasEWalker I don't know. I only planned to build one of them. Still haven't finished the big door.
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Pretty clever ,I'm impressed thanks for sharing .
I'm still working on ideas for the large door on the open end if you have an opinion I would love to hear it.
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common sights in coastal Maine are structures like this of 1x3’s and blocks covered with poly. They build boats in them. Having done carpentry work in a greenhouse I can say the lighting must be excellent.
Well it is no greenhouse but the light is fairly good from the gable ends.
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Awsome engineered lumber trusses for arches . I like to build a House this way
Good luck
Really brilliant example-illustration how frame works! Construction code composers should thing about changing their family doctor for prescriptions. How is it now?
I am adding a floor of busted concrete and sand. It is free material and will make a much more solid floor for driving on. I should have that video up in a few days.
If you are going to use metal roofing, you don't need sheathing. Just run purlins and cross brace on the inside for shear resistance.
I have used that method when building for other people but I like the flexibility of putting fasteners anywhere - especially when I don't have any set plan. When I built the structure I didn't even know if I was going to use metal roofing.
Hi Andrew. What thickness of plywood did you use. Great video
For the sheathing 1/2 inch (nominal) it is actually 31/64ths but I think that is just to confuse the average person. Arches are 3/4 (whatever funky fraction that is). I need to make a short video on how I cut the scarf joints... note to self "get on it".
@@AndrewBrenner1 Thank you
Great job, you do such good work. Could I use 4" pine and not worry about it braking? I want to bend a 12' board. It is for the top of a 10'x20' shed
I think much of the problem with bending solid wood is the variation in grain and inherent weaknesses that make it a bit less predictable. I am quite sure that many arch structures have been built by bending solid wood. I don't know how much you have to worry about breaking. There may be special measures that you need to take when bending solid wood. I do not know. One of the reasons that using plywood was suggested is that the alternate grain directions provides more strength overall. I don't know if that is true, I am not a structural engineer. I can say that my methods of bending the arches was quite successful using plywood. However, it was not a perfect success. You should choose a good quality plywood and be careful to look out for voids that could be present.
I wonder if a skylight a large skylight wood work with this style building
There would be some curves to work out for installation.
@@AndrewBrenner1 but my thinking is that the curves almost seem to be irrelevant in other words if you built a large enough curb around your skylight just cut your square opening and then Mount your skylight up against some blocking yeah maybe there is some curves to work around but I'm sure it could be done maybe I shouldn't have skipped out of class that day
Any way to get those thin Arch walls to R-30 insulation rating? Is a build with thicker walls possible? Home depot says they wont cut thinner than 12" wide. Anybody ever try to get a structure like this to pass as a primary dwelling in Florida?
If you do not want any windows in your primary dwelling it might be doable. I doubt if any residential dwelling will allow 4 foot on center for structural support. Locally I have had both Lowes and Home Depot cut 4 inch strips. You may want to reconsider how badly you want an arched building vs. the practical use as a primary dwelling. I can't imagine even hanging a picture on an arched wall.
@@AndrewBrenner1
Hanging a picture should be the least of your concerns
@@speakeasydoorman4966 Yeah - I would not recommend it as a primary residence. Maybe some place really remote that does not require inspections and where getting materials in is very expensive... and there are no materials you can source locally to make a structure like a log cabin.
@@AndrewBrenner1
I'm in Fiji
Some things can be a challenge to obtain
This concept is about as easy as a build can be
Roof and walls all in one
Here the temperature never changes more than 10°
Not matter what time if day or year
Temps 72-82°F
One could go 4 on center
I'd probably go 2' on center..... certainly no need for any insulation here
Traditional houses here have open beam
Usually high ceiling for the warmth to collect then vent out
One could create a short wall or a wall to hang pics then to the arch radius
All easy to do
fast forward two years and add all the inflation plus an extra 25% cuz who knows why and you can buy 5 sheets of plywood for 500, this doesnt include the 100 dollar tank of gas it takes for the trips to the store
How did you make the arches what was your templet..?
I had some blocks screwed to the floor in the house. I used them to form the rafters 1/2 at a time.
@@AndrewBrenner1 oh no wonder they look so good you used concrete ans blocks on it as a template.., nice job thanks..! Thinking about it..!
Aaand now its 3000...
$500.00 a year ago that structure now will cost $5 grand or more with wood pricing
I saw a brinks truck delivering plywood yesterday.
Any updates on your arched shed?
If you pick the play list for the "$500 shed you will see several. Latest one is about putting siding on one end. Would love to hear your comments on the door design for the other end (big door opening)
@@AndrewBrenner1
Roll up canvas door. Several videos on UA-cam. You first would need to front in a rectangular opening then overlap the canvas.
I also wonder how well bathroom plastic wall sheets 4X8 sheets work for roofing material.(you may have to mount with slotted holes and lightly nailed, like you mount siding to allow for expansion). Also the white color would reflect the sun keeping it much cooler in the summertime. A solar heater could keep you warm in the wintertime.
@@c50ge The main problem is that the opening is not rectangular. If it were - a regular garage door would be mighty appealing. I might try some form of tarp arrangement for this winter though.
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I see over $1500 in plywood not counting framing or concrete.
Plywood must be VERY expensive where you live. The concrete was just old blocks that I had left over. 6x6 are fairly expensive but I got them dumpster diving. Also I only purchased a couple of the 2x12's. I hate to see things go to waste.
@@AndrewBrenner1 $50 sheet. I counted roughly 32 sheets on that building. I am guessing the walls are 32'x16'. I applaud being frugal and reusing materials. But i felt the title was misleading by omission.
@@timengland2475 I have never seen any type of plywood at those prices and could probably not bring myself to pay that much if I did. I don't even spend that much on oak veneer plywood. If you watch the video you will note that it is my version of a $500 shed that was built using OSB. I chose plywood over OSB for durability and cannot comment on preferences to spend more or less on building materials. I'm sorry if you feel mislead in any way.
@@AndrewBrenner1 OSB has it's uses but i agree that plywood is more durable. I wish costs here were as low as in your area, especially since i live in a lumber producing area. It did not occur to me that costs are different everywhere. It should have. And the local cost does piss me off, but if you have to build something, you pay what it costs.
@@timengland2475 Yes, price differentials are sometime vastly different from place to place. I wonder if amazon sells plywood.
Total cost?
I haven't finished yet. Many things were not purchased like the 6x6 posts and the cement blocks. I should look through the old Lowes bills to make an estimate.
$3,000 or more from what i see.
Get Collar ties on every Rib at 1ft and 5ft on both sides A
Maybe you mean 1 foot and 5 feet from the peak. I think the point of a Gothic Arch is supposed to be that you get more open space and don't need the bracing trusses.
@@AndrewBrenner1 Yes from the peak, I know the Gothic Arch is supposed to be open but they are usually made from 4x8 or 2x4 solid timbers and then sill have metal or plywood gussets, A man in St johns made one really well, he used 2 layers of plywood both sides, Glue, and good ridge beam and it looked very solid, but he still only put plastic over it, i think this design is 99% used with green houses or metal, i don't think the wood sheeting is making it stronger if the ribs can't support the extra load.
@@That1ufo Thanks for the info! I have some other videos that show where I put metal roofing on it. I do sort of "take advantage" of the fact that it is not super rigid as sometime I bruise the lower walls with the bobcat lifting mechanisms or the top of the tractor tires.
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your shed is bigger than zach's isn't. looks bigger?
Yes, my dimensions were mostly based on the size of the building site.
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Joe Biden, price increases, now a 15,000 dollar shed.st.Paul,Minnesota.
I'm not an economist but, I do have an econ minor. Deficit spending is probably a bigger problem than the decisions of any single person.