Thanks.. I was building inspector for 17 years and this is the slickest design I've seen. Your explanation of technique ,time ,and material was very helpful.(yes,I intend to build 1....or 4)
This is a classic old design that is very efficient. I've considered building a summer cottage, with cedar shakes on the outside, a glazed front wall, and a sleeping loft with a stained glass window above.
These hoop sheds or Stimson bow sheds are great. My son and I built 4 of them. It is amazing how strong they are. I’m making a small version right now for a greenhouse/duck shelter. Thank you for showing us your sheds.
Hey Patty, did you follow any designs? I'm hoping to make a Cabin next summer following this style! Just not exactly sure where to start. Looking at something like 12x32 ft.
@@deanhammond4124 I’m happy for you and I know you can do it! That is a good size. You don’t need big honking arches. The arches on these sheds in this video look like the ones we made. My son did look at designs on the internet but he simplified or modified them. For example, a video by Loveiswithus shows the design, but if you read the comments, several guys suggest just what we did: we placed our strap of wood on the outside wall of our shop, bent it to the dimension Ben calculated was right. And then we put blocks along that strap to create the jig. There are two straps so we must have done a second one and positioned the blocks as needed. Keeping the arches uniform helps. And we screwed the arches together. We did not use any glue. I liked watching a video by Carol Broman , DIY Greenhouse. That is bigger and better than what we did. But it’s nice. Do Not watch Zack of all Trades! His version made me sick. He didn’t do anything right. I wish I could help you more.
@@pattysherwood7091 Thanks so much for the positivity. That was a lot of help :). As I continue to research I'm sure I'll have some more questions in the future if you don't mind them!
@@deanhammond4124 i don’t mind. You know, I talked to a guy years ago who had a business of building Gothic arch homes. I love the look of them! He had developed a system of making the arches with cheap reject lumber, and his arches were not like the Stimson bow shed design. I think they were more segmented ... I can’t remember how he did it! He’s in Rochester NH. “Gothic Arch Homes and Buildings” is the name of his company. He might have some helpful information .
Thank you for taking the time to video and post this. I'm on the West coast of Florida and am researching how to make Gothic Arch tiny homes. BTW, for simplicity's sake, a 15' wide building would require a 15' 8" outer 1x4, just under 16'. Assuming you're using the equilateral triangle based Gothic Arch.
After doing some more calculations, and if you didn't mind a bit shorter arch, you could go 16' wide and 13' tall as long as you use that ridge board. This would use the complete 16' 1x4 for the outer band of the bow.
I like how you are designing around using shape rather than more materials. In our area the metal is plentiful, and the wood can come off my sawmill. I spotted how you mentioned working with the ideal length truss. I'm guessing that is to make a roof where you can use full panels without cutting. Looking forward to more videos!
I drew up pretty much this design last week, for a totally different purpose in a different climate. My place in the Philippines grows massive bamboo with 2 inch thick side walls, that can be split to make 2x3 materials up to 80 ft long. A pole that can make six of those, is worth less than $10. It's incredibly strong and incredibly cheap. Many of my neighbors earn about $5 a day, so complete houses that come in at under $5,000 are common. We will treat this material with borax, so that it's good for a century, then build a frame that's maybe six times more robust than this one. It will frame a ferro-cement roof, meant to withstand a category 5 typhoon. This shape of building is far less vulnerable as compared to stick framed buildings with sheet metal roofing. We lost 70% of those in the last storm. I've looked at domes and barrel vaults, but the Gothic Arch is a much easier shape to produce using steam bent bamboo. The high peak will allow ventilation when we put a continuous ridge vent molded from the same incredibly durable ferro-cement.
Hey bud are you going to be making any more videos on these, ? I bet a lot of your views came from the last year because this design is really getting popular
What about using layers of Osb bonded (gorilla glued) together to form the arches? Instead of stif warped wood? Ohh how would you insulate a structure like this? I need inexpensive housing!! I like this idea..but it’s the little things that get you.
Would 2 laminated/glued 3/8“ plywood strips ripped to 3 1/2“ work well for making good bends? Would that not be stronger than pressure treated 1x4‘s? The joints could be staggered.
I have been looking for what type wood is used on these. No were on any video or website have it seen if its white pine standard pine from home depot, lowes etc. Would really like to know what species is being used. thanks
I’ve used 1x4 pt pine and just yellow pine Be great to get pieces longer than 16’ to avoid the splicing . Somewhere around a 19’ width and cheating a little on the arch, you can use 16’ boards
If you can cope with a few complications, you might consider roofing from the top down. Just tuck the next sheet under the top sheet as you work your way down. Might be more trouble than it's worth, on a storage shed, but I've been thinking of you!
Yes, but if you start at the bottom and shoot an elevation at each end rob where the top of the sheet shoul be attached, you don’t get a miss alignment at the top, ask me how I Know 😕 also at the top you can sometimes just bend the sheet over and forms it own ridge cap East construction, I love it Renting mine out for $ 500 per month (the big one
Should be just fine. I anchored with embedded tress straps to easy truss. The two end walls would obviously need to be well secured of proper dimension studs These are pretty tall, depending on your width, so 2x6 or 2x8’s would be needed for deflection A little engineering goes a long way Good luck, they are great structures
Hi John Nock. Nice work! Totally agree this construction style is very efficient but yet so under-represented in the Florida housing market. I have a vacant residential lot 8500 sq feet (80wx100d) zone 2 , R1 zoning with minimum dwelling size of 750sq ft in Sebring Florida. The lot is semi rural with very modest houses blocks away. My lot faces a preserve - so no front neighbor. I talked to the county about what it would take get a structure like this to pass residential building codes. Seems the biggest challenge is getting a contractor and engineering to make drawings, then getting to R-30 insulation values on the ceiling and R-13 on the walls with such narrow wall systems. Great news is they seem to have no issues with aesthetics, interior open concept (no interior walls), having no electrical (plan off-grid later) and not having windows on the sides (only front and back). By chance have you explored what it would take to use this construction style for a primary tiny home dwelling and pass Florida building codes.. with structural, wind and energy requirements in Florida? If its possible it might have a very nice market opportunity. I've done some testing and research on my channel. I hope to start talking to engineer soon. Subbed. Congrats and Thanks.
I'm thinking... as a low cost shed, this construction might have advantages over others. As a home, with windows on the sides, interior walls, insulation, HVAC, etc, the advantages will diminish. Your inquiry reminds me of the barndominium dilemma.
I am also in the same area and have been planning on buying from Arched Cabins in Texas. They make a kit for these that include steel ribs and the metal roofing, engineering drawings and can deliver them. These would literally easily alleviate some of the affordable housing shortage. They are cheap, termite proof and easily handle hurricane force winds. I work for a construction company and am working on making drawings for one. I am completely sold that these are the wave of the future.
Hi John, wish I could see one under construction, such as putting the metal on. Is it awkward, you have a ladder against the building working your way up? The fasteners self sealing so it doesn't leak? Is there some way of making skylights, a few clear plastic panels? I want to make a boat shed for a large boat. Is pressure treated really necessary if the ribs aren't getting wet? Thanks, Scott
Metal is easy using 2 or 3 extendable ladders Start at the bottom an just work your way up, extending the ladders as you go. Hint, use a builder’s level to establish the top of each end of the first sheet, that wat they have a much better chance of meeting at the top. PT I guess just bends better when it’s fresh and wet . Plastic panels would be fine, I don’t think they will last as long as metal If you give me your email address I will send you some construction photos. I can’t seem to do that in this message. Goodluck
The one thing I like the most is the overhang it’s more than 4”, Why people in the metal building Industry refuse to make an over hang more than 4 inches is beyond me .
With the curved shape, I doubt snow could build up too much. It should function like a culvert pipe. It would take a lot of pressure to deflect this curved shape
One of the things I don't like is the metal roofing ribs creates a gutter which will hold more standing water the closer you get to the peak, and will start to rust there.. Other than that, pretty efficient use of material.
Nice Shape But cant catch water and the 4x1 looks weak and the joint at the top beam does not look strong at all......not hurricane proof at at so not point butting straps.....
@@kermets the 1x4 bent and doubled is extremely strong. The ridge has a flat strap across the top. Probably more hurricane resistant than conventional construction. Horizontal metal roofing holds very little water which evaporated quickly
I just used cheap sawhorses and plywood with 2x2 blocks to clamp to while screwing. And I have broken it down I’m going to make a plywood template about 18” wide and have a welder build the table with angles to clamp to an pipe legs I can bolt down. I’m going to design it so I can use 16’ 1x4’s
@@renitaphilley9346 Great video, Question... What are your comments with regards hurricanes? I live in Los Cabos, MX, and as well as Florida we are prone to get hit by class 3 quite often. Thanks!
Thanks.. I was building inspector for 17 years and this is the slickest design I've seen. Your explanation of technique ,time ,and material was very helpful.(yes,I intend to build 1....or 4)
This is a classic old design that is very efficient. I've considered building a summer cottage, with cedar shakes on the outside, a glazed front wall, and a sleeping loft with a stained glass window above.
These are cheap to build right?
Would love to know more about how you built these/ planned them out. Thank you for taking the time to post this video, it's greatly appreciated.
Seconded
These hoop sheds or Stimson bow sheds are great. My son and I built 4 of them. It is amazing how strong they are. I’m making a small version right now for a greenhouse/duck shelter. Thank you for showing us your sheds.
Hey Patty, did you follow any designs? I'm hoping to make a Cabin next summer following this style! Just not exactly sure where to start. Looking at something like 12x32 ft.
@@deanhammond4124 I’m happy for you and I know you can do it! That is a good size. You don’t need big honking arches. The arches on these sheds in this video look like the ones we made. My son did look at designs on the internet but he simplified or modified them. For example, a video by Loveiswithus shows the design, but if you read the comments, several guys suggest just what we did: we placed our strap of wood on the outside wall of our shop, bent it to the dimension Ben calculated was right. And then we put blocks along that strap to create the jig. There are two straps so we must have done a second one and positioned the blocks as needed. Keeping the arches uniform helps. And we screwed the arches together. We did not use any glue. I liked watching a video by Carol Broman , DIY Greenhouse. That is bigger and better than what we did. But it’s nice. Do Not watch Zack of all Trades! His version made me sick. He didn’t do anything right. I wish I could help you more.
@@pattysherwood7091 Thanks so much for the positivity. That was a lot of help :). As I continue to research I'm sure I'll have some more questions in the future if you don't mind them!
@@deanhammond4124 i don’t mind. You know, I talked to a guy years ago who had a business of building Gothic arch homes. I love the look of them! He had developed a system of making the arches with cheap reject lumber, and his arches were not like the Stimson bow shed design. I think they were more segmented ... I can’t remember how he did it! He’s in Rochester NH. “Gothic Arch Homes and Buildings” is the name of his company. He might have some helpful information .
Nice work man! Slick Garage setups! Thats how Id do it!
Do you have a video on the building of the forms and assembly of the frame?
Thank you for taking the time to video and post this.
I'm on the West coast of Florida and am researching how to make Gothic Arch tiny homes.
BTW, for simplicity's sake, a 15' wide building would require a 15' 8" outer 1x4, just under 16'. Assuming you're using the equilateral triangle based Gothic Arch.
After doing some more calculations, and if you didn't mind a bit shorter arch, you could go 16' wide and 13' tall as long as you use that ridge board. This would use the complete 16' 1x4 for the outer band of the bow.
I like how you are designing around using shape rather than more materials. In our area the metal is plentiful, and the wood can come off my sawmill. I spotted how you mentioned working with the ideal length truss. I'm guessing that is to make a roof where you can use full panels without cutting.
Looking forward to more videos!
Очень красиво, эстетично, и выглядит очень надежно, а самое главное Бюджетно!!! Спасибо за видео!!!
Thank you for the video. Really was enjoyable and appreciated you sharing the journey and improvements.
I drew up pretty much this design last week, for a totally different purpose in a different climate.
My place in the Philippines grows massive bamboo with 2 inch thick side walls, that can be split to make 2x3 materials up to 80 ft long. A pole that can make six of those, is worth less than $10. It's incredibly strong and incredibly cheap. Many of my neighbors earn about $5 a day, so complete houses that come in at under $5,000 are common.
We will treat this material with borax, so that it's good for a century, then build a frame that's maybe six times more robust than this one.
It will frame a ferro-cement roof, meant to withstand a category 5 typhoon.
This shape of building is far less vulnerable as compared to stick framed buildings with sheet metal roofing. We lost 70% of those in the last storm.
I've looked at domes and barrel vaults, but the Gothic Arch is a much easier shape to produce using steam bent bamboo. The high peak will allow ventilation when we put a continuous ridge vent molded from the same incredibly durable ferro-cement.
Please please show how you built the arch ribs
Have you built anymore? Can you show how you made your jig for the 16 foot ribs? Do you glue and screw the blocks in the ribs?
Would you show us how you made your jig? Thanks
Hey bud are you going to be making any more videos on these, ? I bet a lot of your views came from the last year because this design is really getting popular
Like number #600 here. tHanks for this video!
What about using layers of Osb bonded (gorilla glued) together to form the arches? Instead of stif warped wood? Ohh how would you insulate a structure like this? I need inexpensive housing!! I like this idea..but it’s the little things that get you.
Would 2 laminated/glued 3/8“ plywood strips ripped to 3 1/2“ work well for making good bends? Would that not be stronger than pressure treated 1x4‘s? The joints could be staggered.
3 laminated 1/4AC would do ok with glue.
Corrugated will bend to that shape; then run bird mesh and dpc (damp proof concourse) to stop annoying moisture drips.
I have been looking for what type wood is used on these. No were on any video or website have it seen if its white pine standard pine from home depot, lowes etc. Would really like to know what species is being used. thanks
nice. No diagonal bracing needed?
I’ve used 1x4 pt pine and just yellow pine Be great to get pieces longer than 16’ to avoid the splicing . Somewhere around a 19’ width and cheating a little on the arch, you can use 16’ boards
Thank you for sharing!
If you can cope with a few complications, you might consider roofing from the top down.
Just tuck the next sheet under the top sheet as you work your way down.
Might be more trouble than it's worth, on a storage shed, but I've been thinking of you!
Yes, but if you start at the bottom and shoot an elevation at each end rob where the top of the sheet shoul be attached, you don’t get a miss alignment at the top, ask me how I Know 😕 also at the top you can sometimes just bend the sheet over and forms it own ridge cap
East construction, I love it Renting mine out for $ 500 per month (the big one
What kind of lumber did you use?
Been thinking of building a cabin like this where can I find more information on building the frame and materials list
Pretty much utube
Have they been in any strong winds yet? Wonder if they will hold up if braced enough in missouri.
Should be just fine. I anchored with embedded tress straps to easy truss. The two end walls would obviously need to be well secured of proper dimension studs These are pretty tall, depending on your width, so 2x6 or 2x8’s would be needed for deflection
A little engineering goes a long way Good luck, they are great structures
Hi John Nock. Nice work! Totally agree this construction style is very efficient but yet so under-represented in the Florida housing market. I have a vacant residential lot 8500 sq feet (80wx100d) zone 2 , R1 zoning with minimum dwelling size of 750sq ft in Sebring Florida. The lot is semi rural with very modest houses blocks away. My lot faces a preserve - so no front neighbor. I talked to the county about what it would take get a structure like this to pass residential building codes. Seems the biggest challenge is getting a contractor and engineering to make drawings, then getting to R-30 insulation values on the ceiling and R-13 on the walls with such narrow wall systems. Great news is they seem to have no issues with aesthetics, interior open concept (no interior walls), having no electrical (plan off-grid later) and not having windows on the sides (only front and back). By chance have you explored what it would take to use this construction style for a primary tiny home dwelling and pass Florida building codes.. with structural, wind and energy requirements in Florida? If its possible it might have a very nice market opportunity. I've done some testing and research on my channel. I hope to start talking to engineer soon. Subbed. Congrats and Thanks.
You can make the walls as thick as you want, can't you? Just use thicker spacing blocks when you construct the trusses.
I'm thinking... as a low cost shed, this construction might have advantages over others. As a home, with windows on the sides, interior walls, insulation, HVAC, etc, the advantages will diminish. Your inquiry reminds me of the barndominium dilemma.
I am also in the same area and have been planning on buying from Arched Cabins in Texas. They make a kit for these that include steel ribs and the metal roofing, engineering drawings and can deliver them. These would literally easily alleviate some of the affordable housing shortage. They are cheap, termite proof and easily handle hurricane force winds. I work for a construction company and am working on making drawings for one. I am completely sold that these are the wave of the future.
Very cool looking sheds! What the wind rating one these? In my area things have to be rated for 150 MPH.
Awesome!
Hi John, wish I could see one under construction, such as putting the metal on. Is it awkward, you have a ladder against the building working your way up? The fasteners self sealing so it doesn't leak? Is there some way of making skylights, a few clear plastic panels? I want to make a boat shed for a large boat. Is pressure treated really necessary if the ribs aren't getting wet? Thanks, Scott
Metal is easy using 2 or 3 extendable ladders Start at the bottom an just work your way up, extending the ladders as you go. Hint, use a builder’s level to establish the top of each end of the first sheet, that wat they have a much better chance of meeting at the top. PT I guess just bends better when it’s fresh and wet . Plastic panels would be fine, I don’t think they will last as long as metal
If you give me your email address I will send you some construction photos. I can’t seem to do that in this message.
Goodluck
Using the 16' length lumber what was your width an peak height?
Around 17-18’
Would love to know where to find 16’ 1x4’s. I guess I would have to find someone with a wood mill eh.
The one thing I like the most is the overhang it’s more than 4”, Why people in the metal building Industry refuse to make an over hang more than 4 inches is beyond me .
Great.. I have been looking at these.. look really hard to insult
I'm pondering this design... Just trying to figure out if collecting rainwater is an option.
Does dirt collect in the horizontal ribs of the roofing?
What glue did you use?
How do you control the water. That is the MOST important thing building any structure.
It flows off just fine. The 3’ wide sheets overlap and there is no problem. Of the 3 I’ve built, they are now about 5 years old and look brand new
Nice!
Also, have you considered a faux beam arch under the overhang?
Hi, Were you required to get engineering ? Maybe not with open ends ? I am in Ocala Fl. neat structures. Thanks
Great idea
Bowroof shed with metal, great idea.
What was the length of each 4"x4" block?
Hey man, Did you put rebar and footings underneath or just a 4" pad?
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The silver color of the outer siding, is it to keep heat from the sun out?
I assume because it's the most readily available metal you can get.
Those to Florida code?
What kind of snow,load will this building handle
With the curved shape, I doubt snow could build up too much. It should function like a culvert pipe. It would take a lot of pressure to deflect this curved shape
One of the things I don't like is the metal roofing ribs creates a gutter which will hold more standing water the closer you get to the peak, and will start to rust there.. Other than that, pretty efficient use of material.
Stimson Marine has the gothic arch Boat shed/greenhouse/whatever.. plans for sale.
Nice Shape But cant catch water and the 4x1 looks weak and the joint at the top beam
does not look strong at all......not hurricane proof at at so not point butting straps.....
@@kermets the 1x4 bent and doubled is extremely strong. The ridge has a flat strap across the top. Probably more hurricane resistant than conventional construction. Horizontal metal roofing holds very little water which evaporated quickly
Was that it? You built these 3 a year ago and no more?
How much did it cost you to build the big one?
About $3,000 with no labor
Is that building made for supiste a hurricane in Florida?
No problem, I didn’t have theses engineered, but with simple hurricane tie down techniques they should shed the wind just fine
1:16 I don’t see any strongbacks - just purlins
Yea but windows in the peek end only.
Very Good!... #53 🐄🦉🏴☠✝{5-8-2022}
Think these could handle snow
Hay
I WANT A HOUSE LIKE THAT....
That is fine for a shed or garage but too noisy for a small home, why not use plastic siding , would be a lot quieter
The Amish in Illinois use this method
Check this out
Like to no more to thank u
Why not just buy from Arched Cabins. There building structure seems cheaper and more efficient
I didn’t know of this company, they seem to have great packages. But I can build the arches and buy the metal for less than half of their cost
@@Campswampy13 is that because of the insulation that is included?
I ask because I am looking at building this design as a tiny home.
@@suewomack5528 thier price isn’t bad at all. Assuming your are not in the contracting business, I would get thier package
Who cares?
Perhaps an enlightened pioneer ? But, fuck you 😜
I just used cheap sawhorses and plywood with 2x2 blocks to clamp to while screwing. And I have broken it down
I’m going to make a plywood template about 18” wide and have a welder build the table with angles to clamp to an pipe legs I can bolt down.
I’m going to design it so I can use 16’ 1x4’s
Will you come see us to help us build one of these? We live in a beautiful area and this is my favorite design.
@@renitaphilley9346 Great video, Question... What are your comments with regards hurricanes? I live in Los Cabos, MX, and as well as Florida we are prone to get hit by class 3 quite often. Thanks!