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J. Cole - The Bronze Medal
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2022
- If there’s anything that’s uncommon in a genre such as hip-hop, it’s self-depreciation. Built upon an immovable bedrock of bravado, hip-hop is a sport in which the boastful prosper and the modest are all too often forgotten. Based on the days of battle rapping in which the goal was to prove your superiority while taking aim at your opponent’s weaknesses, it's not uncommon to hear rappers make outlandish proclamations of their own abilities.
Little more than two major projects into his career, Polo G was already labeling himself “the goat.”
Similarly, rappers such as Jay Z and Lil Wayne were dubbing themselves the “best rapper alive” long before the culture was willing to accept those tags at face value.
With the industry more overcrowded and competitive than ever, it pays to be cocky, and if a fanbase wants to fight your case for you, then it doesn't make much sense to dispute their claims
Courtesy of this culture-wide endorsement of bragging, hearing any shred of humility can be hard to wrap our heads around. So, when J Cole seemed to be purposefully eliminating himself from all of the endless discussion over who’s at the top of the mountain out of himself. Drake & Kendrick in the modern era, the world was taken aback.
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Rap/album wise: 1. Kendrick 2. Cole 3. Drake
Commercial wise: 1. Drake 2. Kendrick 3. Cole
Live performances: 1. Kendrick 2. Drake 3. Cole
Impact overall: 1. Kendrick and Drake 2. Cole
To me, it's clear Cole been at the third spot for the last decade but he's been climbing to that 2nd spot last few years with a stellar run of features.
I’d argue impact and commercial wise between Kendrick and cole
Cole is better live than Drake. Drake spends way too long talking about nothing on stage 😂
Top tier comment this. Most decisive I've seen. If we could share this everywhere it would definitely END the argument
ehh I would say drake over cole for album. Cole never made anything better than take care, iyrtitl, and nothing was the same
Spot on 100%
One thing you touched on that most people forget , is Coles dreamville label. Kendrick & Drake’s label don’t compare to Coles label success. You can tell J Cole is going to have huge longevity with dreamville.
Chill out!!....Kendrick’s label is less than a year old😂
His boy has 3 grammy nods and just had a platinum record...
Yup! That's really what this game is about! It's a waiting game and whoever crosses the finish line and stays winning is the victor!
@@ojvic7297 not taking nothing away from his label I know it’s still the beginning but facts is facts if you compare the labels coles out weighs them both . What I really meant though was his depth on his roster. When most artist rely on one or two artist to carry the label .
@@ojvic7297 Who talking about Kendrick just had a platinum album or Cole? All of Cole’s albums are platinum.
PGLang will last for a while i believe
J.Cole just raps about real life shit that everyone can relate to. No bs, no fiction, just real rap and that's why he's my favorite out of the three.
I can see where you’re coming from that’s how I see drake for me
Kendrick does too tf.
@Donchanli11 drake has more than a couple songs like that you would know if you knew his catalog. drake is rightfully top 3 and he's a great you can't say anything that can degrade is pen or success, as both Kendrick and Cole recognize him as a rival
@Donchanli11 drake's whole am pm series and first 3 albums are filled with songs like that, and even the new album songs like champagne poetry, and the remorse are a perfect example. im not sure how yall feel about those songs, but to me it feels like my thoughts on paper even though i didn;'t write it
@@josechamu240 Kendrick doesn't necessarily relate to everyone tho, but his raps is all facts too
I think this quote by Marcus Porcius Cato sums Cole up perfectly.
“I would much rather have men ask why I have no statue than why I have one.”
Only people with status say stuff like this this is like when rich people go I would trade all my money and fame for a normal life no normal person thinks that way
🤯🤯🤯
@@carlosanthony4972 it's about the idea of winning people's admiration without the exterior flashyness, it's a different approach to what success means.
The way I see it:
Drake is for the clubs and parties where ass is being thrown or for people going through heartbreak.
Kendrick is an Anthem for the hood or those who take rap very seriously due to how laced his works are.
J Cole (my fav) is for the average Joe going through everyday life. He's got bops, he's got moods and he's got bars. A bit of everything.
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im sorry but did you just say drake music is for the clubs and parties but not kendricks???tf have you even heard drakes music or even kendricks?? cause i dont think you have
@@sergf3624 You can party to Kendrick and be serious with Drake, but which would you rather party too and which would you rather appriciate for their serious work
@@ill7941 great take, well said
Beautifully said
It's refreshing to see someone like Cole in the public sphere. Humble yet confident
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*Cole is a good rapper.. just makes really boring music*
Real confidence involves humility
@@stansmith5610 more like u listen to trash music
@@stansmith5610 J Cole makes straightforward, common sense records for regular adults without any pretense of commercial appeal. That may be boring to your average 16 year old trying to act tough but it's refreshing to a grown up that wants to hear a rapper act his age for once. We don't need another Pusha T or Freddie Gibbs making Gangsta Rap even though they've been successful for over a decade, live in a mansion, only use a gun at the shooting range (no disrespect to either rapper but they have gotten a little stale).
I don’t get how J.Cole saying “SOME PEOPLE saying ‘I’m running third’ they threw the bronze at me” is an admission of defeat. All he did was acknowledge that a lot of people consider him to be the lesser of the big 3, that not him saying he is. I’m sure he doesn’t believe that because on tracks and features more recent than Heaven EP he call’s himself the “greatest alive” and the “greatest one doing it right now”.
Facts it went right over peoples head .
bro Jay Z already said, these dude dont listen to music, they just skim through it
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He also says it plentiful on forest hill drive
Yep he said it first on fire Squad I think
He said he's the greatest
J Cole makes common sense music. No clout, no stupidity. Just rap that'll help you sort out your shht in life. I fcuks with Cole since "The Storm",
sometimes he does. but he also has laidback joints & songs meant to display his lyrical acrobatics. my favorite of the 3 is definitely when he just spazzes on beats to rap hungrily
He def has stupidity. He has that dumbass “ you the shit but cant out fart me” bar.
Bruh b✔ straight up rearranged your entire comment and made it as his own. These bots are unreal. Literally UNREAL.
Jahen lol I saw that Bruh.... It's a mess outchea
@@FreeArthurian it's fkn terrible
He's very intelligent and possesses humility, two traits that many mainstream rappers lack. While yes it is common for rappers to boast and big themselves up, he simply lets his work speak for itself and he's not concerned with an image or making himself feel like the biggest in the room. That to me shows more confidence. He doesn't need to act like everyone else
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J. Cole got bars man, people need to give him his respect. Idk why it became cool at one point on social media to diss him and say he was boring. People also forget how nice his mixtapes are. Add those to his discography and it's even that much better.
I think people started dissing him after many of his fans kept saying you need a high IQ in order to understand his music.
@@nellym46664 that’s the same thing some Kendrick fans say
@@MrSayWhatIThink23 nah, kendrick fans are white and say they relate to kendrick's music. j cole fans are also white but at least jcole raps about white things
J Cole is so underrated. Like the fact that For Your Eyes Only went over so many heads of my peers. People who call him boring are not not listening. They are simply hearing. This man is a blessing to hip hop.
It didn't go over people's heads. It's just poorly arranged. The tracklisting could have been better to tell the story more consistently. Also his singing is weak accept that. There many more things that made that record weak. Cole's discog is the reason he is running third to me Drake ain't one or two tho for me Cole is less boring than Drake by a mile. And what he has achieved by not going pop after his debut is commendable. Never sold out since Nas criticised him and I respect that.
@@bruh7928 it was arranged in line with the HBO movie release.
@@bruh7928 j coles singing is good though
Deja Vu is a fucking classic, that 2pac hook singing blending in with his voice is pure fire.
J.cole number 1 for me. i on't care what no one say, he's the goat of this generation, Taking nothing away from kendrick, they are the embodiment of rap music, but Cole really has something so pure, you can't compare it to anyone else.
I can respect that
Very well said bro
I agree wholeheartedly. I love Kendrick, his music, his impact. But nobody can touch Cole when it comes to business acumen, setting trends, and when he speaks the entire world listens intently.
Nobody asked who you like more or who's more talented. Its who's the top artist. So it is what it is.
@@jayc5756 you hurting ? Lol
I'm glad to see people giving Cole the credit he deserves.
That feature w benny Johnny p caddi. VERSE OF THE YEAR. Cole is the top of his generation. And an all time great
To early to tell
@@t-god2439 to early in what?
his best verse since FHD 💯
@@IamGroot-g2d most songs on 4yeo
J Cole is the Essence.
Drake is the Phenom.
Kendrick is the Enigma.
this comment right here.
Nice I like this
Very well said
Drake had a ghostwriter on several songs and albums he's handsdown the bronze
Perfect.
Cole is the Klay Thompson of Hip-Hop. Not the biggest numbers, quiet, humble, different, and you know what he brings to the table.
I would say he’s more like Giannis..
@@alexanderjackson8389 ion like Giannis lets go with Klay Thompson
Amazing take
@@factsfacts17 I gotta keep it real 🙏🏾
Not the biggest numbers???
"Kendrick made you think about it
But he is not your savior
Cole made you feel empowered
But he is not your savior"
I completely agree with the video. To me, their music hits me differently. You can't and shouldn't compare them. They are all great. Like 2pac and Biggy. Two legends can co-exist
Kendrick makes you think.
Drake makes you daydream about being the man.
J. Cole makes you feel like he's living your life on the wax. His shit is just so relatable. That's why he's my favorite of the three, and one of my top 5 favorites all time. (Pac, Jay, Em and DMX being the other four).
What people don't seem to get is that whether he tells it to you or not, Cole will forever be considered one of the greats. He's just like Nas. Nas rarely outrightly claims to be the greatest. To him, Rakim is the GOAT. But despite all that deflection, he is unanimously hailed as the greatest of all time by a majority of hip-hop. That's the lane Cole is in.
Couldn't agree more
I love all 3 but I think Cole is the best right now, Kendrick has been absent for so long I feel he cant claim that spot right now until he drops that album and Drakes recent album wasn't it.
Cole is the current best but overall he 3rd
@@ahkenaten522 Nah its 1. Kendrick 2. Cole 3. Drake, if were talking lyrically
@@iiMFzHD I can't even consider drake a rapper anymore
@@iiMFzHD Kendrick hasn’t dropped so for now it’s 1. Cole 2. Drake 3. Kdot
@@iiMFzHD drake makes pop hits, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but I don’t think he’s in the convo lyrically at all
Cole clarifies his stance on the same track by saying " The tales official,the best ni**a breathin', it just failed to hit you". How is that accepting bronze, he is just acknowledging the difference in discourse among the media and respecting other opinions
it failed to hit the dude making the video lol
failed to do his due diligence lol this video was a waste of time
💯bro like are y’all actually Listening? Or just running with the narrative lol he literally says “SOME PEOPLE say I’m runnin in third, they threw the bronze at me” not that he feels like they’re better than him.
Exactly. These ppl mad dunce...cause it actually failed to hit them. FR
@@futurehofer1564 Exactly...exactly what I'm saying. Lol
It's not King Cole, it's Content Cole. The man is gratful for what he is able to do & wants to be self fulfilled, not publicly hailed. That makes all the difference in the world.
Poop bars aren't content
@@quincyundead2417 mannn BIG & Wayne got poop bars. DMX talked about rippin peoples butt holes open. Nobody over the age of adulthood actually gives a shit about whether someone has poop bars or not, pun intended.
@@quincyundead2417 You white huh
This is why J Cole is my favourite rapper and Drake is my favourite artist. Love Kendrick's music too. All generational talents in Hip-pop
Much love to what they've each added to Hip-pop. It really wouldn't be as exciting without them.
I’ve always love the debate of top 3 but Cole wins this hands down. He’s the only producer of the three (which is ALWAYS overlooked) and he actually holds his own as a label owner with arguably the most talented roster currently in Hip-Hop. I’m sorry, Cole really 4 tha culture. He’s da 🐐🔥
Major facts!!
he’s produced close to 75% of his catalogue.
It can go any of the 3 ways
No TDE. Is better
@@t-god2439 no it isn't, they sabotage their artists, look at SZA
Everything J Cole touches is solid gold. He is a staple in the culture, and a trend setter. Always ahead of the wave and the curve. And a fellow North Carolinian, proud of his roots and humble beginnings.
J.cole to me vocalizes and symbolizes the simple, good life, nothing too much. just good. and I think it speaks to a lot of people
I don’t think y’all understood the bar. He was saying that SOME people see him as third, and then followed by saying Kendrick and Drake were gods. That’s not him saying HE thinks that he is third
same
Cole on his Johnny P's Caddy recent feature:
"On God, The Best Rapper Alive
Headshot, now go and ask the best rappers that died they tell you he never lied."
Kendrick has the god flow, some shit we’ve never seen or heard. Drake makes great songs period! .. When it comes to Cole NOBODY RAPS BETTER THAN COLE, He paints pictures with his words and has never missed
J cole has changed Lots in his career , he went from wanting to being the greatest and claiming him self to be in 2014 forest hills drive , to realizing that all that shit really don’t matter it’s about the fans and the love in the music to spread positivity , all three are great artists with different attributes and they own style and j cole embraces that and doesn’t really care for all that “GOAT” talk , j cole one Of the best and doesn’t have to say he’s the best, thats what makes him great
Cole be the secret weapon just like wayne on the features. Amazing at delivering and structuring flows.
I heard of Cole in 2009, I think that head drake dropped best I ever had and it was one of the best summers of my teens.
I love cole, not even because of his skills, I acknowledge them but I don’t even listen like that. He’s still my fav artist tho but because of his approach to life outside the booth.
J coles humility is rare quality that should be treasured especially as a rapper
I always said, “ Kendrick for my mind and Cole for my Soul”. I love Kendrick and Cole. I really don’t fuck with Drake… he is commercial there is a machine that push his success he has ghost writers… he is manufactured…. He a modern Easy E.. His music don’t speak into me. But I’m happy he successful.
Cole's albums always #1 and platinum. He's by far the smartest. He has his own record label with artists who are thriving or at least recognizable for instance. Cole is thinking long-term...
I think at this point we get too caught up in rankings. there will never be a consensus list. im just happy I grew up in the 2010s to watch these guys cement their legend in a new era.
Ay, you heard that verse Cole dropped on P's Caddy? He's coming for the crown now bro 👑🔥🔥🔥
I remember in 07 when I first heard Lights Please off of Limewire which led me to the Warm Up and from then on I have never listened to an artist that can rap (particularly his early years) and the raps truly emulate the listeners life and that’s what Cole does for me. This man’s albums got me through breakups when I was done so dirty and listening to his music and him saying things that I felt in those moments got me through depression and even a suicidal thought. This is why he’s #1 to me, Drake is an amazing artists and obviously the best of the past decade and a half and Kdott I never could vibe with. I love these 3 artists because if you ask 3 different people you’ll get 3 different answers on what each means to them. Truly 3 kings.
Literally had this convo yesterday, I appreciate how well you articulated everything.
We should celebrate all 3 of these legends of this generation. I personally relate to Jermaine the most out of the 3.
Cole came a long way I mean from the come up to born sinner era u could hear he wanted to be like every rapper but his craft matured so from 4 your eyez only to the off season this era shows how he became in love with making timeless music, music we can play today and still feel like it came out yesterday the man legit has crated his own nitch
Cole a humble man and knows that he one of the best... dont need to shout it out every fucking song... and gives other artist their due respect. He no bronze he a legend. W all the way
J Cole rlly is one of the greatest rappers to touch a mic. man he’s got an absolutely insane discography and incredible lyricism. i have the upmost respect for him, appreciate his music and he’s just so fucking talented. i wish more ppl would see that.
i’m honestly really glad to see people say good things about him and see other rappers respect him because mfs always wait til someone dies to praise them for what they did while living
The fact Cole & Kendrick had never discredited Drake apart being part of the 3 just shows ppl really just don’t want drake part of the 3 .. Regardless if he wrote or not .. which is why I will continue to put drake as part of the 3
Kendrick has been subliminally going back and forth with Drake since 2013
@@chinmayathapa8671 I know that but never has discredited him from being part of the 3 or more so going back n forth of who’s Number 1 & 2
@Asmodeus Guy 3am series
Honestly I’m in the right generation. Jermaine is one of the biggest reason. He’s one of the few artists, that i can listen especially bcz of content. He has so much succeeded yet so humble & intelligent. Like Kevin Hart said that Kdot & Cole they doesn’t highlight themselves success bcz they don’t want to be highlighted even with their biggest success. I like Drake tho don’t get me wrong he’s great especially in late 00s-mid 10s. NWTS is my fav Drake album ever. But Cole & Kendrick giving so much authenticity that motivates me to be better everyday with God’s grace through their music.
Cole a Legend 🐐
Always loved Cole. It's a damn shame how massively underrated Cole is from a notoriety stand point
Because he’s boring
J Cole, hip hop's most consistent B student
giving you a F for this comment
@@TheRelentlessKnight an*
@@leotrollstoy2351 white
@@TheRelentlessKnight I have nothing else to say, your comment indicates you’re just looking to fight, being a consistent B student is a fuck of a lot more than most artists can claim. Go listen to something that came out before 2015 and gain a little perspective on the culture, friend.
@@leotrollstoy2351 you take all online comments this serious?
My man said there’s no reason why Kdot, Drake & Cole can’t ALL be the best…boy if you don’t get that everyone wins mentality TF out of hip hop. It’s ok to have an order or list that’s like the essence of hip hop. 3 ppl can’t be the best , it’s ok to say 1 is better than the other lol
Cole the 🐐. Drake kind of has his own lane. And the gap between Cole and Kendrick is wide cause kdot hasn’t dropped in three years yall meat riding him at this point
@@just-a-guy9857 Cole's music doesn't have nearly the depth K Dot's has. You're comparing a feature-for-any-and-all rapper to a pulitzer prize winning MC.
@@TARRS1 what do features have to do with anything and remember the whole 3x platinum no features thing I don’t really get the point you’re tryna make. All I was saying is that Conceptually Cole has the better Albums, his lyrics cut just as deep, his catalogue and overall discography puts him in contention for the best rapper of his generation
@@just-a-guy9857 the gap between kendrick and cole is wide bc kendrick hasnt dropped recently?? Im sorry but that makes no sense. Its not like Kdot only has 1 or 2 albums to his name. The guy has at least 3 back to back classic certified albums to his name. The only 1 I can grant cole is 2014 forest hills and maybe Friday night lights but that was a mixtape. To say with a straight face that Cole has better conceptual albums is....wow. I highly doubt Cole himself would even agree with you. TPAB on its own should dismiss that take.
@@bearcudlybear TPAB is just one project tho
He's the best rapper ever ,PERIOD!!!!. His songs are inspiring, life changing and awesome. He don't need to say he's the best. He doesn't needs to explain it, his fans will do it. COLE WORLD🌍🌍
His songs have a longer lasting effect. I can always go back to them.
I actually think this is a step in the right direction for Hip Hop
Y’all should check out his new verse in Benny the butchers song . I feel like Cole touches on this topic .
tbh lyrically J Cole is the best
Forest Hill Drive, 4 Your Eyez only and Born Sinner are whole classic projects. I can't name a whole 3 from the other 2 big Kats
Should've mentioned his verse on Benny the Butchers new single
This video alone tells me this world is so FUCKKKKKKED up. It is clear that this man spirit is so far ahead of the people you are comparing him to, that he knows that he is better, but humble himself because he is mindful of the game that is being played and knows he not only wants to play that game but recognizes the damage that comes from playing that game. So in reality he is far more superior then what is actually being portrayed.
Drizzy Cole and Kendrick their will never be another trio greater 🔥🔥🔥
Biggie, Pac, and Nas are 10x greater than them lmao calm down
Let me guess. You were born after 95. 🙄
Eminem Kanye Wayne wayyy better, only guy that can compete against them three in that group is Kendrick, drake and cole can’t
@@King_JappyJoe word up
He said PEOPLE called him that, he literally says on January 28th:
"You n- might be L or you might be Kane
Or you might be Slick Rick with 19 chains
Or you might be *Drizzy* *Drake* or *Kendrick* *Lamar*
But check your birth date n-, you ain't the God
Nah you ain't the God
N- Cole the God
January 28th"
How do you consider yourself a hip hop fan or whatever and dont even understand what is being said?
Bro I refer back to this so much because people act like he didn’t say this
That was a while ago...2014 FHD.
My fave Cole joint...
J Cole is one of the greatest rappers fr
I’m a fan of all 3, but is just something about cole flow that the other two ain’t got , like I see everything he be saying, and the feeling I get too.
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J Cole will always be the top dog to me
Cole is amazing. Dot is just different to me. Section 80, GKMC, TPAB are all genre defining albums. May be the greatest 3 album run of all time. I don’t think Cole has one album better than any one of those 3. Just my opinion
I disagree but I respect your opinion. They act like 2 legends cannot coexist!
Cole doesn’t have an album better than gkmc and tpab but fhd, 4yeo and born sinner are better than s80 and DAMN.
Off season > Kendrick new album
"The best ever it just failed to hit you, you couldn't tell because you fell for all the bells and whistles"
If Drake doesn’t write his own bars, why is he in this top 3 conversation? I don’t get these standards. Diddy, Dre, or Will Smith wasn’t making any rap top 5 with Nas n Jay cuz they didn’t write their own bars. That’s automatic disqualification. If anything Cole should at least be higher than Drake by default because he writes his own lyrics.
d riding drake been the trend for ages still love drizzy tho
He's top 3 because he blows everyone out of the water with sales by a long shot
It’s about Impact not lyrical ability
@@hermanosfernandez1537 Never speak on hip hop again
The vast majority of Drake’s music is too personal and clearly written by him. Drake took some songs from a guy and credited him as a writer so the guy could get paid for it.
This whole “ghostwriter” thing has been debunked several times, y’all just don’t like the dude. And that’s fine, but just say that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also, you can get writer’s credits for suggesting a line or an ad lib. Check the credits for your favorite rappers and I guarantee you’ll see other niggas’ names there for “songwriting”😴
Cole I think is an example of where being the best in public opinion doesn’t drive him. I can relate because I don’t wanna be known as the best but a master of my craft through and through. I don’t have to be the GOAT, I’m fine with being elite. I think bravado is great to have but I feel like even the “diss tracks” that Cole dropped are like lessons and conversations on a person’s missteps rather than tearing down the other side. J Cole is a gem, and shouldn’t be under appreciated
Been a jcole fan since he uploaded lights please on youtube! I remember commenting in 20 years jcole will be the next jayz
"..The tales official, the best nigga breathin', it just failed to hit you
You couldn't tell 'cause you fell for the bells and whistles.." Cole LITERALLY says this on the SAME SONG. But apparently nobody caught it because.. well, you know.
Yeah literally. Like jay z said “Do you fools really listen to music or do you just skim through it?” This whole video was a waste of time 🤦♂️
He’s number 2 behind Kendrick when in comes to the biggest names in the mainstream
J Cole is number one among the three.
Great vid. Having the chance to see these guys grow has truly been amazing
When cole can make a series of the heart he’ll be even with dot. But the heart series is some of the best lyrical work I’ve heard.
he did it is the young simba series
As of today, Cole is the best rapper alive. He hasn’t took his foot off the gas. Off-Season is arguably the best album that dropped last year. He dropped a super dope posse album with his label and other random artists. And he also dropped a very dope album with KOD in 2018. He hasn’t stopped. Meanwhile Kendrick can take a 50 year break and still be mentioned.. Drake can drop a mediocre album and still be mentioned.. stop w the disrespect
You just proved why kendrick lamar always will take the number 1 spot in these debates and lists because his work is so great that we still replaying it his old projects still holding strong until he releases again and thats saying something because not too many artists singers and rappers can do that especially rappers
Its not about how much u drop. Its about what u drop.
donda took 2021
@@shugoo7599 over the off-season noooooo way and Nas album and keem album were better than donda
@@markeithjackson6895 yea true but donda had a lot more hype to it especially coming from the listening parties and constant delays
Great content as always , Keep them coming
Nas biggie pac, eminem kanye Wayne, drake dot and kendrick in a perfect world I would have wanted these 3 groups to have done a song each and then a final song all together and I would die happy lol
Let’s be real cole dropped that bar so we can argue for him.
GENIUS!!!!
While Drake has been in the pop lane for years now and with Kendrick on his weird ass experimental shit.. Cole has been the one holding it down with this real hiphop shit ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
So because Kendrick evolves with every album means he's not Hip Hop? You Cole fans are astonishing really
@@katleholehlokoane9663 NO, you Cole haters are astonishing. Just because Kendrick tries something different, whether it be more jazz infused or whatever the case, doesn't make it the best. I never once said Kendrick was bad. He's arguably the greatest rn but Cole has been keeping the true spirit of hiphop, what it used to sound like in the 90s until it turned into pop music, alive.
@@rickyrichreacts9667 This reply is mind numbing. Do you know the roots of Hip Hop music? Hip Hop didn't start in the 90s, research about the genres that came before Hip Hop and influenced it. Kendrick is not experimental in fact by infusing Jazz on the TPAB album he was honouring the roots of the genre. He only used Jazz on 2 albums. I listen to J Cole, in fact I was introduced to him way before I knew who Kendrick was. Don't let your love for an artist cloud your judgement. We're trying to be objective here.
Art is subjective, and the three are all very different. That said, Cole is by far my favorite rapper right now. I can listen to his shit all day. All he does is spit bars.
Kendrick is just on a different level... look at the song Black Friday with Kendrick rapping over coles song. Kendrick also has the heart series, control verse, TPAB, UU. Look at Kendricks free style on funk flex, just absurd. I can respect people who prefer Jcole more though, I get it
IS Cole the bronze bomber? Will kendrick diss Drake? Find out on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z
After that Benny verse I don’t think it’s a debate anymore lol
I view cole and kendrick like mayweather and paqiuao, kendrick being floyd, undefeated and at a base level probably a better rapper, but cole the people's champion, more relatable, and at his highs shines brighter than everyone
Bro cole didn't even mention he had features on the off season, shows you that he doesn't really care about the numbers, and he doesn't need features to promote his music
Better Rapper than Drake
Better Producer than Kendrick
And drops just as often as they do
Cole the Best Hip Hop Artist in the world
He did just drop that joint with Benny the Butcher to refute this perception
edit: It's called Johnny P's Caddy"
What AK said kind of shows the reason why cole is so great. Hes not with all the braggadocio or arrogance he just wants to rap and make music for his people to enjoy. No BS, no trying to make radio, none of that just spitting. Hes almost always been that way and thats why hes my personal favorite of the 3. I love drake and Kendrick but cole is just so damn relatable to me.
Yeah when I heard the cole freestyle I kinda understand him even though I never gave him the bronze he got silver and thats only because I think Kendrick is great at everything but people in these comments and on these music media judging on silly things but it doesn't have to be complicated its results resume and skills lyrically yeah impact on people matters but not really because that's a personal feeling that differ from person to person so obviously Kendrick takes it lyrically because he's just amazing and consistent on everything but Cole is not too far behind also Kendrick has them both in consistent results he haven't missed on a project yet I mean even his scraps from TPAB were great thats crazy but again while Drake might have to numbers in music numbers are irrelevant nowadays with social media helping artists and the streaming its about quality and Cole comes in 2 behind Kendrick again to me its always been about Cole and Kendrick in this generation because they are far better Lyricist than Drake and has better quality than Drake yeah he has the hits and numbers but that's why he's 3 because he brings something that really doesn't matter today Cole is great and always has been the only reason he's not 1 is because of Kendrick but those 2 are still carrying the generation today im still waiting for that joint project like all of us lol.
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Uncle J. Cole that's who he is...you can be more open to him than other people/fathers in the game, illustrated by his aforementioned Dreamville. Drake is definitely the dad, not exactly a father, but he is obviously up there. Kendrick is that cool cousin/brother that keeps it real.
Kendrick Lamar = Mind
Drake = Body
J Cole = Soul
In my opinion you feel J Cole more than Kendrick, and Drake is more commercial so he is the body of Hip Hop while Kendrick is the intellectual of Rap, but you feel J Cole way way more, ironically the soul is more overlooked than the body and mind hence why J Cole is so overlooked and underrated x
It’s called being humble
I think through his change in his feature philosophy and working with artists, he slowly began to stop putting so much focus on being a competitive rapper solely especially with Kendrick Lamar which is why I think The Off-Season was the album it was. Not a concept nor a record that attempted to catch the ear of fans through catchy tunes; just a masterclass of lyricism that made J Cole proud and only his fans proud. I'm happy J Cole isn't trying to catch Kendrick or Drake, cause simply he isn't neither of them nor should be. He's the everyman or rap.....
Kendrick, J Cole and Drake really Big K.R.I.T should be in the conversation also
Cole can call his self third because he knows the public is going to correct him he don’t have to do it his self. That’s what a true king does
Somebody said they would put Cole in the tier with Big Sean lol. Yo I’m done.
Drake don’t write his own lyrics like J Cole and Kendrick. He just more popular. People don’t wait for Drake for his bars thought they dope, but do t hold a candle to Cole or Kendrick
People did at one point. I was definitely one of those people.
Kendrick & Cole lyrics aren’t complex at all, Cole has bars here & there but Drake has more bars, Kendrick & Cole ‘s music just has more deeper meaning
@@moballardful Me too. He messed that up doing an interview saying he had ghostwriters. He may have meant for songs but not necessarily lyrically but the damage was done. Then the whole culture vulture thing along side his lack of originality by stealing others songs. Real hip hop enthusiast know better the rest of society just follow who is POPULAR
@@jfraz1992 Cole is more complex vs Kendrick but he a great story teller who opens your mind to different perspectives or just plain reality. Kendrick go hard. Too bad he been on the sideline due to label issues
@@Xilent1 Cole is definitely not more complex than Kendrick, u obviously haven’t listened to Kendrick albums anytime u stated that, Kendrick stories are way deeper & concepts are way more complex
He’s so chill I’m so glad to have met Jcole back in 2018 and have an actual conversation with him and say thank you. Learned that he produced “Hurt Feelings” by Mac!! Blew my damn mind
Numbers are numbers and jcole knows that. He’s focused on putting out the best music he possibly can. The moment you’re soley focused on numbers the music suffers. In an era where rappers are overhyped Jcole is a true artist and it’s backed up by his work. No one will forget his name 20 years from now and that’s a fact.
I rather J Cole over Kendrick 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️