Can Venator Beat Providence in Star Wars - Empire at Wr: Awakening of the Clone Wars?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Can 1 Venator Star Destroyer Beat 1 Providence Carrier / Destroyer in Star Wars - Empire at War: Awakening of the Clone Wars?
Combatants: 1 x Venator Star Destroyer vs. 1 x Providence Carrier / Destroyer
Players: Both sides are controlled by human player
Tactics: Not allowed
Fighters and Bombers: Depends
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00:00 Without Fighters / Bombers
04:07 With Fighters / Bombers
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venators are pack animals, but the providence, that's just an insane brawler amazing ship, in 2 vs 1 the providence in a broadside alone engagement in between two venators can solo em both, as we saw it only used one half of its firepower and still got away with no shield loss, absolute beast, cant wait fro the dreadnought variant
Thanks for the comment. Coming next week ;)
what dreadnought variant? the subjugator?
@@strixsnightmares467 I meant Subjugator vs. Mandator :)
@@strixsnightmares467 @strixsnightmares467 there are dreadnought variants of the providence recusant and munificent, Trench used the providence dreadnought and grievous in oneepisode the recusant dreadnought, but the aotcw devs did not have the models for it, coreys clone wars mod has them tho
There’s a reason why in the clone wars tv show venators in a battle scene always had a minimum of three ships. They are extremely modular carriers. The republic and kuat drive yards in particular have a funny habit of mislabeling their capital ships. Victory class are frigates venators are carriers prosecutors are heavy carriers mandator II are super capitals and maelstroms are battlecruisers. For those of you who don’t know what the last one is the maelstrom is a prototype star destroyer that saw limited use at the end of the clone wars and was essentially a venator stripped of its dorsal hangar doors and stuffed to the brim with turbo lasers concussion missiles proton torpedos and laser cannons. In a 1v1 like this a maelstrom would kill the providence easy by itself.
Right at the start looking at armaments I knew the venator was dead. Those seppie heavy turbo lasers will tear the shields apart.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, it was surprisingly one-sided :)
As expected... the providence is never to be messed with.
Agreed on that :) Thanks for the comment.
As expected. The Venator is primarily a carrier, while the Providence is primarily a destroyer/battleship, which also carries fighters.
problem is the venator has the same ammount of fighters as the providence
Thanks for the comment. Yea, seems to be the case. So, it should have sent the fighters out clearly before engaging, though would it have been enough still :)
@@vinipm300 Agreed on that though imo the quality seemed to be a bit better. But if Providence's Fighters defended the cruiser, then perhaps its anti-fighter guns would have evened the odds. :) Thanks for the comment.
"Machine is superior!"
At least in this test :) Thanks for the comment.
Truly demonstrates how both the Republic and Jedi relied SOLELY on plot armor!
With or without Fighters the Providence would win against the Venator that was classified wrongly as it’s more of an assault Carrier than a capital ship!
Thanks for the comment. Well, plot armor is the strongest one ;D
Read the text card he mentioned at the beginning: the Venator is labeled in it's ROLE as a battle carrier
Great as always!!
Thank You! :)
Let's face it the Quarrens just did the "can I copy your homework but change it slightly" with Mon Cala ship designs when making some of the Cis heavy ships, why Mon Cal ships are beasts in tanking dmg.
Seems to be the case :) Thanks for the comment.
providences are great brawlers but if they lose their shield generators, they can be ripped apart with concentrated fire pretty quickly
A good point. Perhaps the Venator Bombers (or actually on both sides) could have targeted the bombers a bit better :) Thanks for the comment.
Its just how it is. However i do believe a diservice was given to the venator being ai controlled since it requires good use of its fighter/bomber complement to strategically target the providence's shield gen before it gets in range to body the venator with its superior firepower. If the shields are down on the prov the boost power to weapons on the venator allows it to strip the heavy broadside capabilities pretty easily. Id still never take the chances in my own campaign though, I always give it 2 acclamators for support if going against a providence.
Thanks for the comment. Actually both sides were controlled by players but tactics were limited :) But agreed, that the Venator should have sent fighters to brawl earlier.
@QualityStarWarsGames-d1w oh ok then, didn't see any mention of it being controlled by another person. Either way unless the venators bombers can disable the providence shield gen it loses in a 1v1 every time. Providence vs the valiant would be interesting to see though.
@@backwardsnemo224 Thanks for the comment. I will add that to To-Do list :)
I’ve had the most luck dealing with providence class shuttles by placing my venators valiants and victories at the rear of my formations while placing fighters, frigates, acclamations and drednaughts to the front of the formation
That seems a sound tactics :) Thanks for the comment.
Love the vids dude super helpful for my play through what difficulty is this on and does that make a difference
Thank You! These are done on multiplayer, so I guess it would equal medium difficulty. And my guess is that difficulty will change the fighting capabilities as well :)
I play Star wars empire at war modded Rise of Palpatine, Ator, thrawns revenge etc... so... this looks amazing, absolutely awesome.
Agreed :) Thanks for the comment.
Recusants vs venators plz... Wanna see if the recusants live up to what is was intended to be...
Thanks for the comment. I will add that to To-Do list :)
Wow. This mod looks really good!
Agreed, the visuals are great :) Thanks for the comment.
Venators are broadside cruisers it can levy more weapons in a broadside it is weak pointing forward
Hmm. Not fully sure about that as SDs are usually strongest from the front. Furthermore, broadside ships (e.g. Providence) seems to automatically turn their flanks to the enemies :) Thanks for the comment.
I didn't even have to watch the vid to know what happens. I've been getting my as handed to me for weeks on my republic run, I'm winning but at the cost of my sanity. Couldn't they have lowered the cost of the venator? It's supposed to be a budget ship, why are both the same price?!
I had no choice but to ditch venator builds and go with well thought small ship fleet comps.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, it seems the Providence is really good in terms of cost-efficiency :)
I need to play awakening of the clone wars
Yea, it seems rather cool :) Thanks for the comment.
Can you do ground units
Sure, at some point. Do you have some specific pair in mind? :) Thanks for the comment.
@@QualityStarWarsGames-d1w clones vs droids
The Republic gunship vs cis droid ship( don't know their names)
The Republic Walker vs cis tank
The saber tank vs cis droid light tank
Anakin vs dooku
All Jedi heroes vs all sith and dark acolytes.😁
@@ChinonsoNnadozie Thanks for the elaboration :)
Honestly it's a no brainer the providence is essentially a battle cruiser while the venator is a carrier with a massive opening door for quick fighter launch so weaker armour on the 1st place to get hit by enemy fire. In other words the Republic really didn't think there fleet management through
Thanks for the comment. Agreed. And it seems with the help of their anti-fighter guns the Providence seems do rather well against Venator's fighter complement with their own complement as well :)
why no fighters? that's the whole point
Fighters and bombers included -versions also coming soon :) Thanks for the comment.
The reason for starting with these is the simplicity (and I don't like the fighter chatter during the video)
@@QualityStarWarsGames-d1w oh okay. I've been wanting to try the new clone wars mod out too. But why aren't the graphics as good as the empire one that came out ages ago?
Hmm. Tbh, I didn't notice the difference but there might be some :) Thanks for the comment.
If you stay at range and don't let those horrible close range cannons do their work? Yeah.
Hmm. Perhaps :) Thanks for the comment.
@QualityStarWarsGames-d1w I've found the Venator can do enough damage but you need to use power to weapons and definitely keep it out of range of the Providence close range TL.
@@MrJohnycomelately21 Thanks for the comment. Sounds reasonable. Can you kite with it well enough, as imo aft would be a rather more vulnerable point for it? :)
@QualityStarWarsGames-d1w you can to a point, (if it's one on one) as you're right, the aft is vulnerable. It's as soon as those close-range guns get in range that it's just over.
@@MrJohnycomelately21 Hmm. I guess it would be needed to test in campaign map to keep space stations from interfering. Let's see if we can get that done at some point :)
From what i have seen without fighter support most Republic ships are trash.
Yea, that seems to be the case :) Thanks for the comment.
@@QualityStarWarsGames-d1w why do you thank people for leaving a comment?
@@ChinonsoNnadozie It is polite (and helps the channel for algorithm) :) Thanks for the comment. ;D
poor like always we never see in EaW a full with its possibly 400 fighter and bomber equiped Venator, that was an easy win for Venator, even against an ISD if the Venator hold his distance to the battleship, its same like an aircraft carrier in WW2 against an battleship, don t let the enemy near to you, its a shit outcoming for the carrier.
Wan´t to see a mod add the full fighter complement and than the 400 fighter etc with Venator against the 1000+ and a Lucrehulk. Are the better pilots and fighter of the Venator enough to kill the 1000 mass produced Droidfighters and than the Lucrehulk? A not seen fight in TCW and Co. because the Republic most time cant place the full complement in a Venator.
Thanks for the comment. I guess that would also put quite a strain to the rig it is played with :)
How😐
Thanks for the comment. Yea, the results were a bit of a surprise :)
Venator is more a carrier than a destroyer, providence is simply better armoured, shielded and armed
@m_m_m_l_k6698 Yea, seems to be the case :) Thanks for the comment.