Man, one cannot describe how epic this game was to play when it came out. No other game was like it and i thought it was gonna be a huge game changer in the industry but for some reason it didnt catch on. Because i played this game I was IMMENSELY disappointed with Skyrim’s combat which launched 5 years after dark messiah. This game was truly ahead of its time.
skyrim combat mechanics are based around realism, i mean no super dashes, no super jumps etc, that makes the combat slower. But imo its gold on his genre
definitely. I never understood why nothing like this game was made after. level design, story, combat mechanics, all extremely satisfying and on point.
When I first saw this game announced in a gaming magazine I was sure that it will be the greatest game ever released lol I think I even saw a gaming demo and test about it, the combat seemed super good Didn't have a good enough pc to play it back then
Picture this: You wake up the hero guy so he can defend himself from the attackers. He then furiously kicks you and saves the world in the next 25 minutes since waking up.
This game is somehow a must play game for me every year. When it came out my dad didn't know what I would want for my birthday so he being into RPG games and so was I he went to a game store, looked a bit around and when the cashier asked him what he's searching for he just said some RPG. The cashier then told him that few days back this game called "Dark Messiah of Might & Magic" came out and when he heard that he was like a baby in a candy store. You know, Might & Magic 6 - 8 is somewhat of my family's game you could say. Everyone played Might & Magic 6 to 8. My both parents, my brother and sister ... and we all shared some secrets, knowledge where something is, how to glitch out some mini-boss npc's (For example the miniboss called "Q" in M&M6 you can glitch him around a corner so he will send his spells into a wall and you can barely hit him with your melee attacks. So he got home, gave me the game and holy shit I was so surprised when I played it for the first time. Yes it had nothing to do with Might & Magic series (we didn't know that Ubisoft bought out 3DO and butchered the "brand" Might & Magic) so my dad was a bit disappointed, but still played it through several times. Nowdays I just can't play this game normally. I know every secret, boosts, invisible walls and thanks to this speedrun I know some new ones that I didn't find on my own. This game when it came out was really ahead of it's time, the combat was the most fun you could get and even though the story is kinda "Yeah get the skull, oh noes the skull's gone, let's get the skull, oh noes it's gone again" of way, but still... every year I play through this game and boi o' boi how god damn much I wish for a similiar game ...
@@shoganflamemasta3975 eeeeh not really my dood. I mean, sure Oblivion is nowdays a icon. And as much as I like Oblivion I'd still rather return to Morrowind. Either way both of these games lack something that Dark Messiah of M&M has... probably it is a more linear game or the great combat mechanics the game has ... can't tell for sure. Right now I've started my new year's playthrough of Might & Magic 6... and with this game I can't really tell why I love it so much. Played it more then 100 times, always love to go back to it Probably for both M&M6 and Messiah I have more nostalgia ... that's probably it
Dark Messiah and Oblivion... heck even skyrim are different games. Skyrim comes kinda close if you heavily invest in stealth though. But in the end it's more like a prototype for Dishonored than Oblivion... or any Might&Magic game... with the possible exception being Crusaders of Might & Magic. But crusaders kinda bombed. I remember liking the demo but reviewers at the time really didn't like it.
it's really sad that this game was overshadowed by Oblivion. While the story is not that great, the gameplay was top notch, I can only imagine if it had been a fully free roaming game.
The thing that made DMoMM so great is a very clever level design, making player engaged with action and story all the time. If you do it fully free-roam, you will loose it. So, what it is, is still better.
I played it when it came out, I own it now on steam. Its a janky mess. However, its also really fun. Its one of those bad games that are just fun and you can ignore the jank.
I remember having fun with this game til the game glitched out and corrupted my save, so I didn't want to play through it again cause I was already so far
@@Cauchemar89 there's actually a developer making a game similar to might and magic, complete with a satisfying kick: twitter.com/Wabbaboy/status/1167748735591432194?s=20
For some reason this game wasn't super popular, I loved it. It had a certain cheesy attraction. Kicking orcs into spiky bits or off cliffs never really got old. "Stranger!" *kick* "AAaaaaaargh!" Also, Xana.....mmmmmmm
The fact that the game didn't crash is a miracle (mine was crashing at random times, or every 30 minutes or so). Kinda sad we don't get games like this. also, wondering if i should try the others Might and Magic (never actually played those) Also nice speedrun, makes me wanna try it since i really like this game
i remember that part with escorting percy, when i played it i ran past the ogre not throughthe door just straight ahead and percy teleported to the next part so no need to wait for him if you took the sneaky approach, i still turned around to stab the ogre in the eye tho
For a game that's "not super popular" it seems a lot of ppl know about this masterpiece. I loved the online while it lasted, have it for the xbox 360 port too. Not as good tho ofc, bc why would something on a console ever be better than anything on pc.
Best game ever, we had so much fun on multiplayer was active made trainings clanwars, if someone wants to play multiplayer feel free to write me there is still 1 server online!
Is there any option to run this game smoothly on Windows 10? Crashes every 10 Minutes/ after Chapter Load/ doesn´t even start or starts with a 5 Minute lag... .
Source is still a modified Quake engine. Valve forked the engine shortly before the release of HL1 so they could have a stable version for release (which got called GoldSrc) and one version they could keep working on for following projects (which got called Src, or Source), so it's the same engine, just another (a lot more heavily modified) version. According to John Carmack on his blog in 2004, there was still early Quake code in Half-Life 2. Probably not much left of it nowadays, but even modern Source is technically still based on a modified Quake engine, just very far removed.
"... this game runs on the Source engine, so exact same engine as..." preceeds to quote one of the few valve games NOT created with the Source engine :P
I just hated the mono-class stuff on console version... anyway, average epic story but awesome gameplay... unfortunately during the open-world mania. 14 years ago ??? I feel old..
2006 wasn't open world mania. 2006 was the beginning of the cover shooter and modern military era of gaming. Open world mania started after Assassin's Creed 2 and Far Cry 3 ~5 years later.
@@haverjamarosi680 any% speedruns not about hardness of the game, speedrunners are trying to end the game as fast as they can. It is very hard to learn all glitches and use all of them, and hard difficulty will only make the time of speedrun worster
@@haverjamarosi680 in a few words: the challenge of speedruns is the fastest time, but hard difficulty will make it slower. So all speedruns at any% runs on lowest difficulty
I only played this on xbox 360 so maybe im missing something but alot of these comments say this was a great game, it wasnt it was just ok. Maybe the PC master race know something i dont but this game was just average at best.
Something about glitch runs just takes all the fun out of watching. “We’re supposed to do this, but screw that we’re just gonna skip it.” Are you even playing the game if you’re just skipping entire levels lol
You're missing the point. Speedruns aren't playing the game. They are playing on an obstacle course which happens to also be a game. Glitch runs, in particular any% ones such as this one, do not care about anything except total time spent. Some people say that that ruins the game. It doesn't. It doesn't even PLAY the game. Besides, in order to get good enough to do any kind of speedrun, you need to know the game very well, which means you played it and liked it enough to dedicate time to learning to speedrun it.
Hello fellow cool kids, I too am a cool kid. Hey guys, what's up with us children shouting in the park? I mean, come on! All us youngsters really want is to sit quietly at home and read books! We should really listen to our parents more, am I right? *dabs*
He's speedrunning for a live audience and an international audience on Twitch. This is a better alternative to dead air. Cropax and his couch had to keep people engaged so they would stay and donate for charity.
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Man, one cannot describe how epic this game was to play when it came out. No other game was like it and i thought it was gonna be a huge game changer in the industry but for some reason it didnt catch on.
Because i played this game I was IMMENSELY disappointed with Skyrim’s combat which launched 5 years after dark messiah. This game was truly ahead of its time.
skyrim combat mechanics are based around realism, i mean no super dashes, no super jumps etc, that makes the combat slower. But imo its gold on his genre
ok i just saw in deep DMoMM combat and its very good, funnier than skyrim combat
definitely. I never understood why nothing like this game was made after. level design, story, combat mechanics, all extremely satisfying and on point.
Hihg its in no way based off realism, its the same mechanics as oblivion and even morrowind
When I first saw this game announced in a gaming magazine I was sure that it will be the greatest game ever released lol
I think I even saw a gaming demo and test about it, the combat seemed super good
Didn't have a good enough pc to play it back then
Love how he spends 45+ seconds skipping a 30 second cutscene
Picture this:
You wake up the hero guy so he can defend himself from the attackers. He then furiously kicks you and saves the world in the next 25 minutes since waking up.
This game is somehow a must play game for me every year.
When it came out my dad didn't know what I would want for my birthday so he being into RPG games and so was I he went to a game store, looked a bit around and when the cashier asked him what he's searching for he just said some RPG.
The cashier then told him that few days back this game called "Dark Messiah of Might & Magic" came out and when he heard that he was like a baby in a candy store.
You know, Might & Magic 6 - 8 is somewhat of my family's game you could say.
Everyone played Might & Magic 6 to 8.
My both parents, my brother and sister ... and we all shared some secrets, knowledge where something is, how to glitch out some mini-boss npc's (For example the miniboss called "Q" in M&M6 you can glitch him around a corner so he will send his spells into a wall and you can barely hit him with your melee attacks.
So he got home, gave me the game and holy shit I was so surprised when I played it for the first time.
Yes it had nothing to do with Might & Magic series (we didn't know that Ubisoft bought out 3DO and butchered the "brand" Might & Magic) so my dad was a bit disappointed, but still played it through several times.
Nowdays I just can't play this game normally.
I know every secret, boosts, invisible walls and thanks to this speedrun I know some new ones that I didn't find on my own.
This game when it came out was really ahead of it's time, the combat was the most fun you could get and even though the story is kinda "Yeah get the skull, oh noes the skull's gone, let's get the skull, oh noes it's gone again" of way, but still... every year I play through this game and boi o' boi how god damn much I wish for a similiar game ...
You want a similar game? Just play Oblivion, is similar and pretty much better imo
@@shoganflamemasta3975 eeeeh not really my dood.
I mean, sure Oblivion is nowdays a icon.
And as much as I like Oblivion I'd still rather return to Morrowind.
Either way both of these games lack something that Dark Messiah of M&M has... probably it is a more linear game or the great combat mechanics the game has ... can't tell for sure.
Right now I've started my new year's playthrough of Might & Magic 6... and with this game I can't really tell why I love it so much.
Played it more then 100 times, always love to go back to it
Probably for both M&M6 and Messiah I have more nostalgia ... that's probably it
A new similar one based on Source 2 would be nice, oh and level design emphasising abusing the ability to kick people into environmental hazards.
Dark Messiah and Oblivion... heck even skyrim are different games.
Skyrim comes kinda close if you heavily invest in stealth though.
But in the end it's more like a prototype for Dishonored than Oblivion... or any Might&Magic game... with the possible exception being Crusaders of Might & Magic.
But crusaders kinda bombed. I remember liking the demo but reviewers at the time really didn't like it.
You should play dishonored, its kinda similar combat wise, its a great game.
The skull is the only thing that matters now.
You're right.
He lost more time trying to skip the cutscene than watching it would take.
It's the principle!!
your right The skull is the only thing that matters now
it's really sad that this game was overshadowed by Oblivion. While the story is not that great, the gameplay was top notch, I can only imagine if it had been a fully free roaming game.
you compare this combat to oblivion ?
@@lukebies8969 You should re-read what he said
Both games came out at the same time (2006)
AMEN! Within 2 year's time of this games release I had already beaten it a couple dozen times or so.
The thing that made DMoMM so great is a very clever level design, making player engaged with action and story all the time. If you do it fully free-roam, you will loose it. So, what it is, is still better.
@@lukebies8969 Not sure what you are saying, but combat in Dark messiah was a lot better than in Oblivion
I've played this game alot, the combat mechanics are amazing
mulitplayer was also pretty good
Such an underrated game...
Been saying this for years now. Few games in my life were as slick and engrossing as this.
Funhaus did a really funny play through! I love seeing someone fly past all the missions they spent weeks doing lol
"Kick the boxes!"
I have a riddle…
Run starts at 0:37
Nice run man! Really enjoyed seeing the Source related shenanigans; had no clue this game ran on the engine. Pour it up!
They need to make a second Dark Messiah or another Thief, but this time please a good one.
st0ox Dishonored is pretty good, highly recommend it
@@Kantrophe yeah it's good but it is not comparable with their Dark Messiah
4:18 I'm so glad we got that second, far worse explanation of the tech the runner just eloquently described.
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this is honestly my favourite speedrunner for this game. hes just alot of fun to watch
This is a game that deserves a remake ....
the more the runner talks about the game the more i kinda wanna play it, especailly the t posing liches story
If you're still on the fence about playing, I recommend the review by Mandalore Gaming. Even if you don't play the game, the review is worth watching
The game's definitely well worth playing today.
There's no other game in this world that has such a cathartic kick button as Dark Messiah.
I played it when it came out, I own it now on steam. Its a janky mess. However, its also really fun. Its one of those bad games that are just fun and you can ignore the jank.
I remember having fun with this game til the game glitched out and corrupted my save, so I didn't want to play through it again cause I was already so far
@@Cauchemar89 there's actually a developer making a game similar to might and magic, complete with a satisfying kick: twitter.com/Wabbaboy/status/1167748735591432194?s=20
This game is gorgeousl!
Best game back in the days
For some reason this game wasn't super popular, I loved it. It had a certain cheesy attraction. Kicking orcs into spiky bits or off cliffs never really got old. "Stranger!" *kick* "AAaaaaaargh!"
Also, Xana.....mmmmmmm
sick run, nice runner. good watch
An unique take on mini-putt golf since Kirby's Dream Course.
Fantastic. Thank you, ESA.
The fact that the game didn't crash is a miracle (mine was crashing at random times, or every 30 minutes or so).
Kinda sad we don't get games like this.
also, wondering if i should try the others Might and Magic (never actually played those)
Also nice speedrun, makes me wanna try it since i really like this game
Run start @ 0:36
Just give us a 2x Skyrim sized Game + this combat - or dragons Dogma Combat - and there is my new Favorite game.
This is why you never skip leg day
30 minutes is how long it took me to finish chapter 3.
i remember that part with escorting percy, when i played it i ran past the ogre not throughthe door just straight ahead and percy
teleported to the next part so no need to wait for him if you took the sneaky approach, i still turned around to stab the ogre in the eye tho
12:14 Cropax HLTV user confirmed mens))??? 👀
Tfw pause launching is basically Kraftworks ability.
Tfw Sareth is a stand user.
*_dude kicks Phenrig to fuck up his animation_*
oh yee, it's gonna be good
I'm pretty sure you can jump from chapter 2 to 9 by jumping on the tree in the left far corner of the map so you can make new world record.
Whoa, nice game to speedrun. Also hey hey, people
Chapter 9, watch your hand going up the ladder!!
For a game that's "not super popular" it seems a lot of ppl know about this masterpiece. I loved the online while it lasted, have it for the xbox 360 port too. Not as good tho ofc, bc why would something on a console ever be better than anything on pc.
Best game ever, we had so much fun on multiplayer was active made trainings clanwars, if someone wants to play multiplayer feel free to write me there is still 1 server online!
And how can you join? I tried on steam but didnt work.
@@Bleeding_Nose Add the server ip to your fav, then u should find it 188.122.80.70:27025
20 minute mark he does a bug to save 30 seconds, spends twice that to skip it lmfao
But I will walk five hundred miles
And I will walk five hundred more....
I recognize the Kick through haha
Finicky
awesome game. :) Awesome run.
1:49 AHHO!
Sick hops!
Wow dis game kinda epic doe
It's on steam, I recommend it wholeheartedly.
The screaming is the background is a bit distracting.
Is there any option to run this game smoothly on Windows 10? Crashes every 10 Minutes/ after Chapter Load/ doesn´t even start or starts with a 5 Minute lag... .
seems like a problem with your system, works fine for me
Just look up most general Win 7+ commands that work on any source game and set up an autoexec for the game.
I know it's kind of late, but if you still want to know how to fix this, you should patch the game's exe file with Large Address Aware
even later reply but you actually just need to turn the graphics down the game can only use 2gb vram everything beyond makes it crash
Half-Life used a modified Quake engine, Half Life 2 was created in Source.
Source is still a modified Quake engine. Valve forked the engine shortly before the release of HL1 so they could have a stable version for release (which got called GoldSrc) and one version they could keep working on for following projects (which got called Src, or Source), so it's the same engine, just another (a lot more heavily modified) version. According to John Carmack on his blog in 2004, there was still early Quake code in Half-Life 2. Probably not much left of it nowadays, but even modern Source is technically still based on a modified Quake engine, just very far removed.
9:43
Руки на стол, там полигонов мало)
This is Maxam, right? Hi Max!
This guy was pretty cool
i was so hyped for this game, but it didn't work on the pc i used at the time :-(
Pentium 3 1,5ghz or whatever lol
the cutscene is only 30 seconds, waste 1 minute trying to get passed the skull is the only thing that matters.
вот это подарочек !
Режим ожидания Ворэльного
is that the half life speedrunner in the background??
This game looks good someone said oblivion just fucked it over but it really sucks I never heard of this when it was relevant.
23:07 Yes.
"... this game runs on the Source engine, so exact same engine as..." preceeds to quote one of the few valve games NOT created with the Source engine :P
What was the only thing that matters?
The skull.
15:45
Там Шар сидит?
Uhhhh, I see Maxam I click like!
"Triggle"
жду разбор от коалы
Anyone here from Funhaus?
kinda finicky
I just hated the mono-class stuff on console version... anyway, average epic story but awesome gameplay... unfortunately during the open-world mania. 14 years ago ??? I feel old..
Pretty sure the open-world mania hasn't ended yet. One game did it right, and that was Metro Exodus.
2006 wasn't open world mania. 2006 was the beginning of the cover shooter and modern military era of gaming. Open world mania started after Assassin's Creed 2 and Far Cry 3 ~5 years later.
Is this game any good played casually?
Its the best, you will be mesmerized
Le don de laink
Заебись. Четко
Охуеть я ее весь день проходил
Is the left guy finnish? Because I can hear the accent.
Anyone else only know this game because of funhaus? 😃
speedrun on the easyest difficulty? tha fkk?
All speedruns runs on easyest difficulty
@@СлаваМойжес-д8т
REALY?!?!?!
That is super lame!
@@haverjamarosi680 any% speedruns not about hardness of the game, speedrunners are trying to end the game as fast as they can. It is very hard to learn all glitches and use all of them, and hard difficulty will only make the time of speedrun worster
@@haverjamarosi680 in a few words: the challenge of speedruns is the fastest time, but hard difficulty will make it slower. So all speedruns at any% runs on lowest difficulty
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More ads pls! Really enjoy them, and love the look of the yellow bars!
Analog what do u mean? I only got one add
30:05 she is sitting all wrong with that skirt
I only played this on xbox 360 so maybe im missing something but alot of these comments say this was a great game, it wasnt it was just ok. Maybe the PC master race know something i dont but this game was just average at best.
Something about glitch runs just takes all the fun out of watching. “We’re supposed to do this, but screw that we’re just gonna skip it.” Are you even playing the game if you’re just skipping entire levels lol
You're missing the point. Speedruns aren't playing the game. They are playing on an obstacle course which happens to also be a game.
Glitch runs, in particular any% ones such as this one, do not care about anything except total time spent.
Some people say that that ruins the game. It doesn't. It doesn't even PLAY the game.
Besides, in order to get good enough to do any kind of speedrun, you need to know the game very well, which means you played it and liked it enough to dedicate time to learning to speedrun it.
Hello fellow cool kids, I too am a cool kid. Hey guys, what's up with us children shouting in the park? I mean, come on! All us youngsters really want is to sit quietly at home and read books! We should really listen to our parents more, am I right? *dabs*
I love this game but this guy never shuts up
He's speedrunning for a live audience and an international audience on Twitch. This is a better alternative to dead air. Cropax and his couch had to keep people engaged so they would stay and donate for charity.
Love the game and runs but this runner is insufferable
Speedrunnin' by wall hacking doesnt count
its any%
take the combat out this game was shit
Take guns out of Counter Strike, the game was shit!
Speedrunning through THIS game must feel disappointing, you don't get to kick anything lol.