Exactly. Passion has nothing to do with being a drunken idiot , a criminal or having no decency. These were animals. Felipe is trying to minimize the Colombia fan base responisibilty at this event since he is Colombian. A thirsty fanbase that doesnt know how to win or lose.
Passion leads to irrational obsessions and behaviors. You know this. Is it valid??? Def not. But i do believe organizers did not expect the massive number of pple going to the stadium. Tix were expensive pple wanted to ensure they would get what they paid for. Unfortunately there are bad apples who took advantage of the sitiation and no control was in place to regulate.
Thousands of people with tickets were not allowed in. Reports say up to 7,000 people without tickets were in the seats of people who were left out in the hot humid night and not allowed in.
I bet this was planned days ago. I don't understand why people think being in the USA would be accepted to disrespect authority. How is not improving life if people keep the same disaster where ever they go. I do agree, the officials do need to have a better preparation of securityfor world cup
We were some of those ticket holders who didn't get in. The police and security kept telling us to wait, all the while they knew the seats were full and we were never getting in. We finally gave up around 10pm when a sheriff told me they weren't letting anyone else in. Hoping we can get a refund for our tickets but not optimistic.
@@gigibeeyou should be able to get a refund, because it was so many people that couldn’t get in that paid. Just don’t give up on getting that money back, because that is unfair.
@@sergiobarraza1064 I agree that we should be able to. Ticketmaster hasn't gotten back to us on the issue. My husband is considering doing a charge back on the credit card if we don't hear anything soon.
Most of them were Colombian, as a Colombian based in Colombia myself I know the way most of them behave at bus stations, waiting in line. I know most of them are Colombian what a shame.
The negligent behavior is astronomical. The fact that organizers didn’t cancel the game baffles me. How do you not cancel an event where there is a security breach and danger to be open. Organizers consciously decided to keep the game going and completely disregarded the safety of the common folk and players. This could’ve easily been a much more bigger disaster. The organization showed negligence and I urge anyone who was there to get a lawyer because this is unacceptable.
@@numi8985 I think the majority of the public agrees with you considering the mass amount of outrage against Colombians across social media platforms. However, it is important to shine a light & condemn the negligence of the event organizers. Their actions afterwards were not up to par with event safety. If an artist were to have had this type of security breach in a concert the event would be cancelled due to gross amount of liability. Why can’t Copa America do the same? It is time to pay attention to the fruit that the tree bears and demand safety to be a priority for us in such large events.
@@numi8985it's Miami 200k Colombians live there plus all the thousands that flew in. Miami has 50k Argentines plus the thousands that flew in. Plus you have thousands of non Colombian and non Argentines that are also there wearing whatever jersey they support. It wasn't all Colombians and the blame falls mostly on organizers, police department, and security for not properly setting up perimeters way before the main gates to filter out people. The parking lots were packed for parties and drinking there must have been at least 200k ppl in the parking lots that Al l walked to the gates. I've been to major events like Russia 2018 and they always have several checkpoints to filter people into the right gates and filter out people without tickets.
Gate crashing has been a thing since I can remember. English EPL fans know all too well (1980s!!!). I was at a concert in the 90’s and thousands rushed the gates. It was the one of the most frightening things I’ve ever witnessed. Unfortunately if you don’t plan correctly and you have a larger demand than supply humans will act irrational. You have to plan for this in big events.
@mackdeen7021 Back in the 80s, my father took me to see the Pope in Poland. After the event, a mass of people tried to exit the polo grounds, and the gate was not wide enough. I remember being crashed by people around me but eventually being able to exit. Folks were passing out, and it's impossible to breathe at that point.
@@brianbray2262 ah, as others have stated This event has been like this all across the world for years It's just that people, all people in general, when we/they see an opportunity, people are going to take that opportunity. "If they arent going to listen, why should I?" Twellman was mentioning wembley stadium from a few years ago where this happened
No, it actually wasn't. You're sounding very Xenophobic. Argentenians weren't there? Okay. And Fans with TICKETS couldn't get in. they treated this entire tournament like a zoo. US is incapable of hosting a tournament of this magnitude
@@Lbb789 Wrong. The USA held the Copa America in 2016, they should have known. Perhaps this time the organizers wanted to cut corners and keep more money for themselves.
They cross the border, river spikes and other things. You think they won't get into the stadium. ??? You forgot these guys are like that in their land. What do you think will be different ?
In Mexico we haven't had incidents in our league like this, nor have Mexicans caused incidents like this in stadiums abroad...prove me wrong or STFU you racist pocho
This report and interview is so well-done and provided helpful insights. My wife, 13-year-old daughter, and I attended the event and experienced it firsthand. The eloquent truth expressed in the coverage has been valuable for processing our experience. When we arrived at the gates around 6:30 PM, we were met with a large crowd of thousands behind us. To avoid potentially being trampled, we had to escape the crowd. While we witnessed some of the more challenging aspects of human behavior in the crowd, it's important to acknowledge the many kind people who stepped up to help children and those in need, including my own daughter. Despite the difficulties, there were also moments of compassion and community spirit that are worth highlighting. Overall, the report has been helpful for us to fully reflect on the nuanced experience. Cheers to the truth and your brilliant reporting. P.S. We never made it into the stadium.
@@bkbaughn ok blame the fans. Now what? Instead of blaming drunk idiots without tickets how about doing what they do in the Super Bowl and have Two security check points before you go to the gates. You can’t even enter the pregame festivities outside the stadium without a ticket and perimeter security check. . Then when you enter the stadium you go through the stadium security check with tickets (metal detectors bag check etc) then you go to the gate to show your ticket to enter the stadium. . No chance for “bad fans” to rush the gate, also having secure perimeters keep people safe in the fan zones. This is what is done all over the world for big matches. Better planning and not leaving it solely up to ticket companies (stub hub, vivid seats etc) on distribution and grouping fans better we would have not had all these issues.
I don’t think people expected the amount of crowd that colombia was going to bring because when you look at the game in Santa Clara the stadium was not completely full but there was a good amount of people but in Charlotte that crowd was almost all Colombian compared to Uruguay
A Venue that has hosted high profile global events with little to no hiccup, now people are questioning the city. Are you kidding me? Why don't we talk about the UNRULY FANS and CONMEBOL for being greedy and did not want to spend money for a better Tournament? This is an absolute disgrace.
Having attended the USA/Bolivia match I am not surprised that these unfortunate events occurred prior to the final. The USA/Bolivia match only had an attendance of around 47k in an 80k capacity stadium (AT&T stadium) and even then there were red flags all over the stadium regarding operational logistics for hosting a sporting event. From entering the stadium to security presence to straight up not having any concessions open on the upper tier of the stadium. We witnessed stadium employees rushing around to open concessions 30 mins prior to kickoff, citing that they were not expecting this many fans to attend. It was really disappointing to see how poorly organized everything was. I’ve been to sold out (80k in attendance) Gold Cup matches at AT&T stadium and never witnessed that level of unpreparedness. From stadium logistics to scheduling matches in the heat of day at outdoor stadiums, CONMEBOL seriously dropped the ball with putting on a complete and desirable spectacle of this great tournament in a country that has so much to gain from the beautiful game.
Seriously? The stadium employees weren’t expecting so much of a crowd to come when team USA is playing? This is really all on CONMEBOL. Of course FIFA will be better prepared on how to handle security, but it’s not a good look regardless.
@@erickbyarushengo4726 prolly not. They play baseball here. But obviously they don’t look around the world either to see how fútbol is everywhere else. They sent 20 Walmart security lady to control the soccer fans at a final 🤣😂
It's a resale... Tickets was controlled by Ticketmaster. I tired to get a pair of pre-sales tickets, but there's was a huge queue. FIFA and UEFA would never have other markets to sell tickets. UCL is controlled by UEFA, you need an active passport and it goes by lottery draw.
I've gotta admit after watching this Copa America and the major screw ups in security/ crowd control as well as the state of the pitches I'm more than worried about the next world cup.
I had never seen this before. People feeling entitled to enter a stadium without tickets? And where the security belts to control who enters and who does not enter were? So, fans and organizers acted poorly.
After seeing the Colombian fans target family of Uruguayan players in the stands in Charlotte (a place not exactly known for its Colombian demographic), you didn't think that the final, being played in MIAMI would be a problem? The tri-county area in Florida is made up of Cubans, Venezuelans, & Colombians (in that order). There is a massive Colombian population here. The organizers are so out of touch with reality.
I was there and had tickets. I arrived around 5pm and the gates were closed and occasionally let a very small amount in. I never saw any security or organizers try to direct crows or announce that the game was delayed. I haven’t received an email from the event apologizing for this craziness. I was able to find my seat around 8pm and the stadium was half full. Anyone with a tickets were patiently waiting at the game in the heat, I can’t understand why hold the gates closed to people waiting to get their tickets scanned.
CONMEBOL is NOT responsible. The US wanted to have the tourney in their grounds, they cut corners to get even MORE money than was already coming in and a LOT came in only to point their finger at CONMEBOL. Miami as a city seems incompetent and stadium security failed to deliver order. Don't be badmouthing CONMEBOL; I'm not saying they do any favors or that they're not corrupt, but in this instance it was all The US in its city of Miami and the US organizers in that stadium. Incompetence and greed all around.
@@mortalgargoyle2260 What happened in Brazil 2021 Final? Drunk Argentines began that racist nonsense before the game began and they got their heads knocked like animals. When it comes to soccer all South Americans are the same. Religion not sport.
There were people who had no tickets and had no expectation of tickets who came to the stadium. That caused a major problem. For the 2026 World Cup they're going to have to put a 1 mile perimeter around the stadium and no one can enter within 1 mile of the stadium unless they have a ticket to the World Cup or show proof that they live in within that 1 mile radius.
I don't know who Felipe is, but the problem is in a smaller number of viewers - now through the videos and photos you can see Colombian t-shirts. and in Colombia they don't respect anything, let alone entering the stadium. Conmebol is partly to blame, but if people are civilized there is no problem. The Michigan stadium with a capacity of 107 thousand people has not had that problem even in the Superbowl, concerts, etc. What has been done is not justifiable.
Looks like Jose Garza missed the 2021 Euro Final. You must be another self hating Mexican who’s parents hopped the border and convinced themselves that they’re white 😂😂
The USA held the 2016 Copa America - did scenes like this play out then? I assume that the same organizations involved back then would have been in charge today. What's the difference now? It's not like fans were less "passionate" in 2016.
Your assumption is incorrect. Back in 2016 US Soccer organized the event and ended up making a huge profit from it. Conmebol saw this and decided they wanted all the money this time around and decided to organize it themselves.
The security is on US, CONMEBOL asked for more security in the gates and was denied. Gets your facts straight, CONMEBOL has no control over the country’s police force.
@@JorgeJuarez321 Entering illegally especially. How many have no regard for rules when entering a country? Why would they have regard for rules entering a stadium? It's a free for all either way.
Exactly. They do this for the Super Bowl and even many NFL games. The cities and stadiums involved were not prepared for Copa America fans. They thought some soccer games meant some folks from the burbs coming in their mini-vans to see some footy. 😮😂😅.
Come on, dude. You think it's FIFA and no European team made it to the finals? Fans know better than that. Who is this person talking to anyway? His friends and family?
@@white_genocide2050what the he'll is american football. Nobody cares or knows about that outside the us. American sports have no national flag to wave .
One vlogger arrived half an hour early and they weren't letting anyone in. Then they said the game was postponed. An hour later, they still weren't letting anyone in, so fans rushed the gates. All during this time, the stadium was filling up with people - even though they weren't letting any ticket holders in. Go figure.
@@arte7sol I on the other hand, find it funny ASF. I'm glad the world is finally getting to know real Colombian culture and behavior. we must stop pretending to be what we clearly ain't. That's the same reason this country is in the shape it is right now
@@saintjames5816agreed, especially the fact lots single men and old seem obsessed going to Colombia to pay for women services it's pathetic but Colombian ppl are like this and these men go spend thousands over there
Whoever is blaming the fans for the complete failure of the organization of the Copa America in the USA is a complete fool and is part of the problem why soccer always fails in this country. Copa America was a failure from the beginning. 1) the turf was not apt to play on. Repeatedly coaches and players were complaining about the condition of the grass, how it was just layed down in some instances a few days before play, etc... This affects the outcome of games and the quality of play, YES! The ball would bounce around much more than normal because the seems of the grass were faulty, the footing of the players, etc.. 2) Safety of the player's families in the stadium. We saw this in the Uruguay/Colombia game. Absolutely unacceptable for this cup. 3) The refs were pathetic all Cup, we can agree on that. 4) The final was embarrassing the delay in the start, the chaos to get in after spending $2k a ticket, the 30 minute halftime charade (players cramping up in the dressing rooms waiting to get back on the pitch), etc... 5) Weather, Miami in July?? Who thought this would be a good idea for a final?? Players clearly fatigued, slow, etc.. These are just a few of the failure points. It is clear that in this country there is no respect for the game of soccer. It is treated like a 2nd class game for 2nd class citizens. Do you think there are no hooligans in Europe? Do you think there are no crazy fans coming in from all over the place trying to start trouble in Europe? Of course there are! But, in Europe soccer is king and the organization of the EuroCup, for example, is a major event and treated as such, with world class organizers, world class security, world class fields, world class refs, world class everything. In the USA, you get a bunch of amateurs running around trying to fill their pockets, doing the very minimum, without a clue of what it means to organize this type of event. It is a complete lack of respect for the sport and USA shouldn't be awarded these events if they can't meet the most minimum standards. Bielsa is right, the coaches are right, the players are right: USA's organizing committee got everything wrong and Copa America was a complete failure. And if you want to try to blame the fans, you're a fool and part of the problem. And the media is of course going to always blame the fans because we know the media is bought and paid for, just like Bielsa said to their face.
THE SAD PART IS THE ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR OF THE POLICE AGAINST THE FANS WHO WERE FRUSTRATED SHOWING THEIR TICKETS TO GET IN AND WERE BEATED BY THE POLICE, SO CRUEL AND DISRESPECTFUL.
82 minutes of delay… because of lack of communication and security, the “so call fans” trashing and forging their way to entering the stadium and not having any ticket or purchase. A ticket is disgusting, which ruined the game and ruined any respect from themselves and other people who actually bought ticket.
Totally not condoning violence and destruction of property, but US has limited understanding of global football culture. For.example, Argentinians have suffered sky high inflation, and still united; US still searching for something to unite us.
Who is at fault for the fan violence? Hmmmm...the fans? Its certainly not security's fault that people without tickets tried to break into the stadium and climb through vents.
He looks happy and smiling when he said they opened the gates whether you had ticket or not. He is happy for Colombians without tickets who got in to watch their losers lose the match.
Why would anyone pay significant money to travel to another country just to cause chaos, potentially face criminal penalties or be sent home? So bizarre.
This is typical fan behavior from the fans of these two countries. Don’t you dare try to place the blame on anyone but those fans that thought it was acceptable to try to get into the game without tickets. I don’t care how big or how important the event was. If you don’t have a ticket, you don’t go to the game, it’s that simple! To blame the organizers or the police or the stadium workers is ridiculous. Hold the unruly fans responsible for their actions. They, and no one else are responsible for any injuries or issues suffered by the rest of the passionate fans who followed the rules and purchased tickets to cheer on their national teams.
Lack of security rings in Charlotte and in Miami, this was not the case at Metlife. Beyond the security issues, kids separating from parents, people with heat strokes, etc, the fields were a disaster, you can put real grass 3 days bf the games. They endangered players with a disregard for playable field. The UY players families were stuck in a stampede. They didn't learn then, in Rio, in Libertadores, not ever because all they care about is money. FYI Copa America is the oldest international competition.
Pblm is USA thought that this is Random Soccer game. But they forgot there is a whole world outside USA where FOOTBALL is more famous than NBA-NFL-UFC. Kid in a Random village of 3rd world country who dosent have their own TV knows who Lionel Messi is and they never heard the name of LeBron James or Tailor Swift. This is how Famous FOOTBALL IS.
This is a good eye opening for the world cup that will take place in the USA.....most latin American soccer's fans can behave like this...and Argentina most likely will play on the World Cup (no sure about Colombia). Lots of strict rules and security will need to come to play
Wow when i saw that chaos i Thought that was happening in one of those Third world places!!That was Miami 🇺🇸 where' are the cops in Real Situation??drinking Coffee at Starbucks or dunking dunking
Hope they learn from this incident because the World Cup in less than two years time , whch means lots more ppl from all over the world will be attending...They have to find more better strategies & ways on how to get such massive crowd under control, because this is not looking good at all...Some already saying that the U.S was a bad choice to host the 2026 World Cup, which is the biggest game in the world...America's Superbowl is child's play compared to the massive attendance of the WC games...They have the time now to get this right or the WC might end up turning out to be an historical disaster.in the U.S.
This doesn’t happen in South America boyo . I’ve been to many games there is a Secruity perimeter 500 ft around the stadium. No one with out a ticket gets in .
@@jberrocalucfthey know who you are as people. This is not their country. US made the mistake of thinking the animal behavior will be at a minimum. Wrong!
@@djmacattack incoherent message . They ? You ? USA ? Lol what the…. You don’t know I am . The US did not organize the tournament. Who is they ?? Englishs and Italians did the same at Wimbledon euro final 2020. It’s a Secruity and preparation issue . Soccer fans world wide are filled with zeal. Please make a good argument. Something ? Lol
Argentina has played 30 Copa America finals, yet Argentine fans never tried to enter without tickets or through the air ducts. The fact that you see some people wearing Argentina jerseys does not mean they're Argentines. Messi fans are everywhere. Colombians caused this chaos. They tried to enter with fake tickets first. Then, they sneaked into the stadium.
It’s the organization’s fault by catering to messi with hosting the final in that small stadium where he lives. It definitely should have been at a bigger stadium smh
How ignorant can you be thinking somehow Messi has anything to do with this mess? This is just on the thousands of fans overpowering a security system that was inadequate for this type of incident.
Football/ Soccer fans are another breed. They need to learn from European soccer crowd control. It all starts on the outer perimeter. If act like a hooligan before you enter (and I'm talking 100's of yards away from the entrance you get detained. Clearly, there was none of that outside of the stadium. US and Canada better be prepared come World Cup 2026.
True but NFL games have better security and perimeter ticket control than these games did. And NFL fans are not nearly as fanatical. The security was more than lacking it was literally non existent for most of the games. In Miami they actually had automated scanner and a turnstile manning the gates! No excuse.
@@mackdeen7021 When I say Football/ Soccer, I'm literally meaning ONLY soccer as an American and NOT NFL games. I've been to NFL games in Buffalo and the tailgating is the rowdiest part in all good fun! Having said that there are some idiots that get drunk and ruin things. Overall good times!
The US doesn’t understand how big this sport is. The city thinks its just soccer it’ll be a busier version of MLS so they don’t properly prepare they need to understand how big these events actually are and have a large amount of security for these games
oh yea blame the organizers for expecting ppl to act relatively orderly like they usually do at this stadium, you know during nfl games college games ext.
Not to defend CONMEBOL but all entities are to blame including US Soccer, CONCACAF, local law enforcement, etc. Luckily it didn’t get to Travis Scott-level tragedies but this is a close 2nd
This Copa América tournament demonstrated that the US is not able to host these types of large tournaments. It’s not the same as 1994 and the US is not prepared.
In Europe, I am used to hooligans aka Ultras and in South America, Barra Bravas and Torcidas Organizadas. However what I am seeing here just cannot be named yet. Europe can teach the US how to handle situation like that. People from peripheral gates show their tickets and get searched and are allowed in. On the other hand, NFL can handle business as well, I am just asking myself one thing, were the people decided to behave the same way they used to back from their country of origin?
Not because you barely know what CONMEBOL is, it doesn't mean that fans don't know what it is. Fans know what CONMEBOL is. Fifa better prepare for the world cup and explain the magnitud of it to the police and whoever is going to organize the security.
I know that FIFA will do a better job at handling security when the World Cup is here in another two years. But it’s still a bad image. You’re talking about two South American teams, one of which is the current World Cup winner. Of course the crowd will be much more chaotic than just a normal game. CONMEBOL really dropped the ball on this. The US has hosted the World Cup before and I’m more than certain that FIFA will have much better security measures in place.
I did not whatch the game, but this is a terrible behavior. The organizer should have be prepared, these issues occur on any country and by any skin color of the fans (see cases in the British championships)
People should demand the resignation of Commebol president. It is obvious they are diverting money that should have been used in security at such a massive event.
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Stop using the term "passion". Passion has nothing to do with the actions of those "fans". Gross behavior.
Exactly. Passion has nothing to do with being a drunken idiot , a criminal or having no decency. These were animals. Felipe is trying to minimize the Colombia fan base responisibilty at this event since he is Colombian. A thirsty fanbase that doesnt know how to win or lose.
Fax
I agree! Growing up I had this “passion” and then I realized I was violent and angry. No place for that in the sport
Passion leads to irrational obsessions and behaviors. You know this. Is it valid??? Def not. But i do believe organizers did not expect the massive number of pple going to the stadium. Tix were expensive pple wanted to ensure they would get what they paid for. Unfortunately there are bad apples who took advantage of the sitiation and no control was in place to regulate.
Colombians were a complete embarrassment!!!
Thousands of people with tickets were not allowed in. Reports say up to 7,000 people without tickets were in the seats of people who were left out in the hot humid night and not allowed in.
I bet this was planned days ago. I don't understand why people think being in the USA would be accepted to disrespect authority. How is not improving life if people keep the same disaster where ever they go.
I do agree, the officials do need to have a better preparation of securityfor world cup
Just horrible. I feel so badly for those ticketholders.
We were some of those ticket holders who didn't get in. The police and security kept telling us to wait, all the while they knew the seats were full and we were never getting in. We finally gave up around 10pm when a sheriff told me they weren't letting anyone else in. Hoping we can get a refund for our tickets but not optimistic.
@@gigibeeyou should be able to get a refund, because it was so many people that couldn’t get in that paid. Just don’t give up on getting that money back, because that is unfair.
@@sergiobarraza1064 I agree that we should be able to. Ticketmaster hasn't gotten back to us on the issue. My husband is considering doing a charge back on the credit card if we don't hear anything soon.
As a Hispanic, a son of immigrants from Latin America. I am humiliated and embarrassed with this repugnant behavior!
Agree! they have no respect for this country may God forgive them
? Like this isn't normal
Are you serious?? Fans with TICKETS couldn't even get in. Ridiculous
Likewise.
We were at the gate... stuck. We had to squeeze our way out and luckily we found a more organized entrance.
@@Ephesians--zs6pvyo be fair, Americans don’t have respect for this country.
Animals. If you want to attend the game buy tickets! If you can’t afford it, stay home and watch it on TV.
Charged extremely high prices for tickets and couldnt even hire more staff for security and organization . Greedy
Football in a nutshell, some tickets have resched prices of over 100k dollars previously 😂. FIFA its a shame for humanity
Sport and team played by border jumpers why would they buy tickets in the first place
Most of them were Colombian, as a Colombian based in Colombia myself I know the way most of them behave at bus stations, waiting in line. I know most of them are Colombian what a shame.
The negligent behavior is astronomical. The fact that organizers didn’t cancel the game baffles me. How do you not cancel an event where there is a security breach and danger to be open. Organizers consciously decided to keep the game going and completely disregarded the safety of the common folk and players. This could’ve easily been a much more bigger disaster. The organization showed negligence and I urge anyone who was there to get a lawyer because this is unacceptable.
Colombians should also be ashamed of themselves. They were the majority jumping in
@@numi8985 I think the majority of the public agrees with you considering the mass amount of outrage against Colombians across social media platforms. However, it is important to shine a light & condemn the negligence of the event organizers. Their actions afterwards were not up to par with event safety. If an artist were to have had this type of security breach in a concert the event would be cancelled due to gross amount of liability. Why can’t Copa America do the same? It is time to pay attention to the fruit that the tree bears and demand safety to be a priority for us in such large events.
@@numi8985it's Miami 200k Colombians live there plus all the thousands that flew in. Miami has 50k Argentines plus the thousands that flew in. Plus you have thousands of non Colombian and non Argentines that are also there wearing whatever jersey they support. It wasn't all Colombians and the blame falls mostly on organizers, police department, and security for not properly setting up perimeters way before the main gates to filter out people. The parking lots were packed for parties and drinking there must have been at least 200k ppl in the parking lots that Al l walked to the gates. I've been to major events like Russia 2018 and they always have several checkpoints to filter people into the right gates and filter out people without tickets.
Been to concerts and sporting events. You have a ticket you enter the venue, enjoy the show and go home. It's not that difficult
Gate crashing has been a thing since I can remember. English EPL fans know all too well (1980s!!!). I was at a concert in the 90’s and thousands rushed the gates. It was the one of the most frightening things I’ve ever witnessed. Unfortunately if you don’t plan correctly and you have a larger demand than supply humans will act irrational. You have to plan for this in big events.
@mackdeen7021 Back in the 80s, my father took me to see the Pope in Poland. After the event, a mass of people tried to exit the polo grounds, and the gate was not wide enough. I remember being crashed by people around me but eventually being able to exit. Folks were passing out, and it's impossible to breathe at that point.
I agree! Usually, that's how people are supposed to act. Now we live in a world where rules don't apply and the entitled rule.
@@brianbray2262 ah, as others have stated
This event has been like this all across the world for years
It's just that people, all people in general, when we/they see an opportunity, people are going to take that opportunity.
"If they arent going to listen, why should I?"
Twellman was mentioning wembley stadium from a few years ago where this happened
@@brianbray2262 Thank the conservatives who ignore the rule of law.
beer/alcohol should be banned from soccer/football games, and guess what? Budweiser is a FIFA sponsor. Beer is forbidden in latin american stadiums.
It was really overwhelmingly Colombians and he tries to make it sound like it was both fan bases. lol
No, it actually wasn't. You're sounding very Xenophobic. Argentenians weren't there? Okay. And Fans with TICKETS couldn't get in. they treated this entire tournament like a zoo. US is incapable of hosting a tournament of this magnitude
He’s Colombian. Bias
@@Lbb789 Wrong. The USA held the Copa America in 2016, they should have known. Perhaps this time the organizers wanted to cut corners and keep more money for themselves.
Both fans and neutrals alike
Both fans. Xenophobic
Colombians behave like this
They cross the border, river spikes and other things. You think they won't get into the stadium. ??? You forgot these guys are like that in their land. What do you think will be different ?
In Mexico we haven't had incidents in our league like this, nor have Mexicans caused incidents like this in stadiums abroad...prove me wrong or STFU you racist pocho
This report and interview is so well-done and provided helpful insights. My wife, 13-year-old daughter, and I attended the event and experienced it firsthand. The eloquent truth expressed in the coverage has been valuable for processing our experience.
When we arrived at the gates around 6:30 PM, we were met with a large crowd of thousands behind us. To avoid potentially being trampled, we had to escape the crowd. While we witnessed some of the more challenging aspects of human behavior in the crowd, it's important to acknowledge the many kind people who stepped up to help children and those in need, including my own daughter.
Despite the difficulties, there were also moments of compassion and community spirit that are worth highlighting. Overall, the report has been helpful for us to fully reflect on the nuanced experience. Cheers to the truth and your brilliant reporting.
P.S. We never made it into the stadium.
Hard Rock is willing to work w/fans to provide some type of compensation for the unused tickets. Check it out.
Thank you for this insight. I’ll research.
Do you know where I can learn more about Hard Rock’s reimbursement plans? Thanks again for the reply.
... so the fans aren't to blame for what they've done?
Exactly... "Passion" has nothing to do with what those "fans" were doing... How about we act like humans, not animals.
This is the result of this administration promoting everything in America is free!
@@bkbaughn ok blame the fans. Now what? Instead of blaming drunk idiots without tickets how about doing what they do in the Super Bowl and have Two security check points before you go to the gates. You can’t even enter the pregame festivities outside the stadium without a ticket and perimeter security check. . Then when you enter the stadium you go through the stadium security check with tickets (metal detectors bag check etc) then you go to the gate to show your ticket to enter the stadium. . No chance for “bad fans” to rush the gate, also having secure perimeters keep people safe in the fan zones. This is what is done all over the world for big matches. Better planning and not leaving it solely up to ticket companies (stub hub, vivid seats etc) on distribution and grouping fans better we would have not had all these issues.
@@bkbaughndo not insults animals 😂
@Doritos1216 DORITOS THIS IS FOR REAL? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANIMALS?
The crazy thing is Colombia won fair play award.
WHAT????? 🤯🤯🤯
Noooo 🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The team.
That's crazy.. Colombians were anything but fair!
Argentina fans were jumping the fence Colombia fans where going threw vents.
I don’t think people expected the amount of crowd that colombia was going to bring because when you look at the game in Santa Clara the stadium was not completely full but there was a good amount of people but in Charlotte that crowd was almost all Colombian compared to Uruguay
A Venue that has hosted high profile global events with little to no hiccup, now people are questioning the city. Are you kidding me? Why don't we talk about the UNRULY FANS and CONMEBOL for being greedy and did not want to spend money for a better Tournament? This is an absolute disgrace.
Having attended the USA/Bolivia match I am not surprised that these unfortunate events occurred prior to the final. The USA/Bolivia match only had an attendance of around 47k in an 80k capacity stadium (AT&T stadium) and even then there were red flags all over the stadium regarding operational logistics for hosting a sporting event. From entering the stadium to security presence to straight up not having any concessions open on the upper tier of the stadium. We witnessed stadium employees rushing around to open concessions 30 mins prior to kickoff, citing that they were not expecting this many fans to attend. It was really disappointing to see how poorly organized everything was. I’ve been to sold out (80k in attendance) Gold Cup matches at AT&T stadium and never witnessed that level of unpreparedness. From stadium logistics to scheduling matches in the heat of day at outdoor stadiums, CONMEBOL seriously dropped the ball with putting on a complete and desirable spectacle of this great tournament in a country that has so much to gain from the beautiful game.
Sure it wasn’t Jerry’s fault lol
Way too big of an event for the Miami organization. International embarrassment…. And they want to run the World Cup 2026? 😂
Seriously? The stadium employees weren’t expecting so much of a crowd to come when team USA is playing?
This is really all on CONMEBOL. Of course FIFA will be better prepared on how to handle security, but it’s not a good look regardless.
@@erickbyarushengo4726 prolly not. They play baseball here. But obviously they don’t look around the world either to see how fútbol is everywhere else.
They sent 20 Walmart security lady to control the soccer fans at a final 🤣😂
@@NatsHorseVideosI mean soccer😂u only say football cus other people call it that
$2000?!!! Conmebol ripped them off! The world cup better not screw people over like this!
It's a resale... Tickets was controlled by Ticketmaster. I tired to get a pair of pre-sales tickets, but there's was a huge queue.
FIFA and UEFA would never have other markets to sell tickets. UCL is controlled by UEFA, you need an active passport and it goes by lottery draw.
People will still buy the tickets 😅
It will screw people even worst why else do you think the US became the host 😂
Wrong . Resale system.
Resale tickets...the ticketing system is the problem...the way you can buy a handful of them and resale them easily...
I've gotta admit after watching this Copa America and the major screw ups in security/ crowd control as well as the state of the pitches I'm more than worried about the next world cup.
I had never seen this before. People feeling entitled to enter a stadium without tickets? And where the security belts to control who enters and who does not enter were? So, fans and organizers acted poorly.
Half-time show does not belong in football😂. This isn't super bowl
The Super Bowl is football That’s was soccer ⚽️ smh jajaja
@@ArturoGarcia-er1hkAmerican Handegg!
Colombia y venezuela son cortados por la misma tijera 🎉
Damn 😂
When they said “filep… “ thought we might see tact making a crazy crossover
I thought the same thing !!
After seeing the Colombian fans target family of Uruguayan players in the stands in Charlotte (a place not exactly known for its Colombian demographic), you didn't think that the final, being played in MIAMI would be a problem? The tri-county area in Florida is made up of Cubans, Venezuelans, & Colombians (in that order). There is a massive Colombian population here. The organizers are so out of touch with reality.
Some of them blamed Uruguay 🇺🇾
Colombians are guilty!
Cubans don’t give a hoot about soccer…. Thank you.
Colombian fans again 😂
I was there and had tickets. I arrived around 5pm and the gates were closed and occasionally let a very small amount in. I never saw any security or organizers try to direct crows or announce that the game was delayed. I haven’t received an email from the event apologizing for this craziness. I was able to find my seat around 8pm and the stadium was half full. Anyone with a tickets were patiently waiting at the game in the heat, I can’t understand why hold the gates closed to people waiting to get their tickets scanned.
Ask anywhere in Europe about English fans in the 80s and 90s
CONMEBOL is NOT responsible. The US wanted to have the tourney in their grounds, they cut corners to get even MORE money than was already coming in and a LOT came in only to point their finger at CONMEBOL. Miami as a city seems incompetent and stadium security failed to deliver order. Don't be badmouthing CONMEBOL; I'm not saying they do any favors or that they're not corrupt, but in this instance it was all The US in its city of Miami and the US organizers in that stadium. Incompetence and greed all around.
Thank you for the informed explanations for what happened.👍
Why was it only Columbian fans that busted through the gates?
What does that say about these fans?
Look up 2018 Copa Libertadores final Argentine fans aren’t exactly angels 😂
@@chinglee100we aren’t cheap animals, if we have a ticket we go like normal human beings if not we enjoy the game at home on the tv with family.
@@mortalgargoyle2260 What happened in Brazil 2021 Final? Drunk Argentines began that racist nonsense before the game began and they got their heads knocked like animals. When it comes to soccer all South Americans are the same. Religion not sport.
@@mortalgargoyle2260 y’all look like cheap animals during the Copa Libertadores 2018 final and in 2005 when Boca played Guadalajara 😂
@@chinglee100can’t compare to a Boca River final. That’s a different animal.
There were people who had no tickets and had no expectation of tickets who came to the stadium. That caused a major problem. For the 2026 World Cup they're going to have to put a 1 mile perimeter around the stadium and no one can enter within 1 mile of the stadium unless they have a ticket to the World Cup or show proof that they live in within that 1 mile radius.
I don't know who Felipe is, but the problem is in a smaller number of viewers - now through the videos and photos you can see Colombian t-shirts. and in Colombia they don't respect anything, let alone entering the stadium. Conmebol is partly to blame, but if people are civilized there is no problem. The Michigan stadium with a capacity of 107 thousand people has not had that problem even in the Superbowl, concerts, etc. What has been done is not justifiable.
Guess how many of them also crossed the southern border the same way 🤔
Their best and brightest
Looks like Jose Garza missed the 2021 Euro Final. You must be another self hating Mexican who’s parents hopped the border and convinced themselves that they’re white 😂😂
I guess none of them. Do you really think some ilegal alien having just crossed the border is worried about going to FL for a football venue?
The USA held the 2016 Copa America - did scenes like this play out then? I assume that the same organizations involved back then would have been in charge today. What's the difference now? It's not like fans were less "passionate" in 2016.
Simple the passion for this sport in this country is growing and on top of that you add millions people entering the country since 2016 is insane
Your assumption is incorrect. Back in 2016 US Soccer organized the event and ended up making a huge profit from it. Conmebol saw this and decided they wanted all the money this time around and decided to organize it themselves.
The security is on US, CONMEBOL asked for more security in the gates and was denied. Gets your facts straight, CONMEBOL has no control over the country’s police force.
Colombians were not there. Cmon smarty.
@@JorgeJuarez321 Entering illegally especially. How many have no regard for rules when entering a country? Why would they have regard for rules entering a stadium? It's a free for all either way.
Security rings around stadium. No one without ticket pass this sistem.
Exactly. They do this for the Super Bowl and even many NFL games. The cities and stadiums involved were not prepared for Copa America fans. They thought some soccer games meant some folks from the burbs coming in their mini-vans to see some footy. 😮😂😅.
They did this for the Super Bowl but that’s the NFL not CONMEBOL
People don't know who CONMEBOL is?? WTF, it's more than 100+ years old, everyone in Latin America knows who those mafiosi are
We have American football here 🇺🇸
Americans don't give a damn about soccer.
I've never heard of Conmebol.
Come on, dude. You think it's FIFA and no European team made it to the finals?
Fans know better than that.
Who is this person talking to anyway? His friends and family?
@@white_genocide2050what the he'll is american football. Nobody cares or knows about that outside the us. American sports have no national flag to wave .
Now I'm rethinking seeing the FIFA world cup live in 2026. 😳
Same here
What ever is US entity CONMEBOL used is about to get a massive lawsuit from ticket holders that weren’t allowed
One vlogger arrived half an hour early and they weren't letting anyone in. Then they said the game was postponed. An hour later, they still weren't letting anyone in, so fans rushed the gates. All during this time, the stadium was filling up with people - even though they weren't letting any ticket holders in. Go figure.
Same happened in last euros 🇬🇧🇮🇹
One Colombian fan is interviewed saying he doesn't have a ticket but he'll still get in lmao 🤣🤣🤣
Thats terrible. Embarrassing for all fans, for all latinos and for Colombians. I am Colombian and this is disturbing to watch.
@@arte7sol I on the other hand, find it funny ASF. I'm glad the world is finally getting to know real Colombian culture and behavior.
we must stop pretending to be what we clearly ain't. That's the same reason this country is in the shape it is right now
@@saintjames5816agreed, especially the fact lots single men and old seem obsessed going to Colombia to pay for women services it's pathetic but Colombian ppl are like this and these men go spend thousands over there
“They’re coming to America, today!”🎶
Impossible! Probably a fan from Uruguay
Isn't the owner/sponsor the Seminole tribe? Would be nice to have their input on this.
Whoever is blaming the fans for the complete failure of the organization of the Copa America in the USA is a complete fool and is part of the problem why soccer always fails in this country. Copa America was a failure from the beginning. 1) the turf was not apt to play on. Repeatedly coaches and players were complaining about the condition of the grass, how it was just layed down in some instances a few days before play, etc... This affects the outcome of games and the quality of play, YES! The ball would bounce around much more than normal because the seems of the grass were faulty, the footing of the players, etc.. 2) Safety of the player's families in the stadium. We saw this in the Uruguay/Colombia game. Absolutely unacceptable for this cup. 3) The refs were pathetic all Cup, we can agree on that. 4) The final was embarrassing the delay in the start, the chaos to get in after spending $2k a ticket, the 30 minute halftime charade (players cramping up in the dressing rooms waiting to get back on the pitch), etc... 5) Weather, Miami in July?? Who thought this would be a good idea for a final?? Players clearly fatigued, slow, etc.. These are just a few of the failure points. It is clear that in this country there is no respect for the game of soccer. It is treated like a 2nd class game for 2nd class citizens. Do you think there are no hooligans in Europe? Do you think there are no crazy fans coming in from all over the place trying to start trouble in Europe? Of course there are! But, in Europe soccer is king and the organization of the EuroCup, for example, is a major event and treated as such, with world class organizers, world class security, world class fields, world class refs, world class everything. In the USA, you get a bunch of amateurs running around trying to fill their pockets, doing the very minimum, without a clue of what it means to organize this type of event. It is a complete lack of respect for the sport and USA shouldn't be awarded these events if they can't meet the most minimum standards. Bielsa is right, the coaches are right, the players are right: USA's organizing committee got everything wrong and Copa America was a complete failure. And if you want to try to blame the fans, you're a fool and part of the problem. And the media is of course going to always blame the fans because we know the media is bought and paid for, just like Bielsa said to their face.
It was organized by Conmebol... Also the 2016 edition didn't have any issue.
USA not used to deal with copa América crowds, that was it
USA held the Copa America in 2016, they should have known.
CONMEBOL planning, officiating and organizing was lacking too.
CONMEBOL cut corners to keep more money for themselves.
If by "Copa America crowds" you mean "Third World Shitbags" then I agree
@@trollking99but in 2016 Colombia didn't make it far. Moat od the problems came from Colombian fans and nit just in thw final
I just hope that the honest paying patrons that did not get in get a full refund.
THE SAD PART IS THE ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR OF THE POLICE AGAINST THE FANS WHO WERE FRUSTRATED SHOWING THEIR TICKETS TO GET IN AND WERE BEATED BY THE POLICE, SO CRUEL AND DISRESPECTFUL.
82 minutes of delay… because of lack of communication and security, the “so call fans” trashing and forging their way to entering the stadium and not having any ticket or purchase. A ticket is disgusting, which ruined the game and ruined any respect from themselves and other people who actually bought ticket.
Totally not condoning violence and destruction of property, but US has limited understanding of global football culture. For.example, Argentinians have suffered sky high inflation, and still united; US still searching for something to unite us.
you mean its not shakira? :/
Some people still harping on "conmebol organized it". Well, it's in the USA. Take some ownership!
Who is at fault for the fan violence? Hmmmm...the fans? Its certainly not security's fault that people without tickets tried to break into the stadium and climb through vents.
He looks happy and smiling when he said they opened the gates whether you had ticket or not. He is happy for Colombians without tickets who got in to watch their losers lose the match.
Why would anyone pay significant money to travel to another country just to cause chaos, potentially face criminal penalties or be sent home? So bizarre.
They should be cancel the game
No cancel culture.
This is typical fan behavior from the fans of these two countries. Don’t you dare try to place the blame on anyone but those fans that thought it was acceptable to try to get into the game without tickets. I don’t care how big or how important the event was. If you don’t have a ticket, you don’t go to the game, it’s that simple! To blame the organizers or the police or the stadium workers is ridiculous. Hold the unruly fans responsible for their actions. They, and no one else are responsible for any injuries or issues suffered by the rest of the passionate fans who followed the rules and purchased tickets to cheer on their national teams.
Are you saying no need for police as people should police themselves? what a silly yank you are
Lack of security rings in Charlotte and in Miami, this was not the case at Metlife. Beyond the security issues, kids separating from parents, people with heat strokes, etc, the fields were a disaster, you can put real grass 3 days bf the games. They endangered players with a disregard for playable field. The UY players families were stuck in a stampede. They didn't learn then, in Rio, in Libertadores, not ever because all they care about is money. FYI Copa America is the oldest international competition.
Pblm is USA thought that this is Random Soccer game.
But they forgot there is a whole world outside USA where FOOTBALL is more famous than NBA-NFL-UFC.
Kid in a Random village of 3rd world country who dosent have their own TV knows who Lionel Messi is and they never heard the name of LeBron James or Tailor Swift. This is how Famous FOOTBALL IS.
I made it in, as a ticketed guest, but it was very difficult. I’m glad I was alone and didn’t have my family or kids with me.
Very smart if you! Definitely not a family event.
As a veteran of 4 World Cup & Copa 2016 organizing committees, this will not happen in 2026 as US Soccer/FIFA will be a very different story
This is a good eye opening for the world cup that will take place in the USA.....most latin American soccer's fans can behave like this...and Argentina most likely will play on the World Cup (no sure about Colombia). Lots of strict rules and security will need to come to play
Wow when i saw that chaos i Thought that was happening in one of those Third world places!!That was Miami 🇺🇸 where' are the cops in Real Situation??drinking Coffee at Starbucks or dunking dunking
Hope they learn from this incident because the World Cup in less than two years time , whch means lots more ppl from all over the world will be attending...They have to find more better strategies & ways on how to get such massive crowd under control, because this is not looking good at all...Some already saying that the U.S was a bad choice to host the 2026 World Cup, which is the biggest game in the world...America's Superbowl is child's play compared to the massive attendance of the WC games...They have the time now to get this right or the WC might end up turning out to be an historical disaster.in the U.S.
Non football nations shouldn't hold big tournaments.
Sad to say, It was mostly caused by Colombian fans. They even had ladders and were climbing in
These Colombian fans without tickets hexed their team.
At the end, greed triumphed.
Thats how they cross the border
There's a reason why south America is considered primitive.
This doesn’t happen in South America boyo . I’ve been to many games there is a Secruity perimeter 500 ft around the stadium. No one with out a ticket gets in .
Said by the mexican.. 😂
@@jberrocalucfthey know who you are as people. This is not their country. US made the mistake of thinking the animal behavior will be at a minimum. Wrong!
@@djmacattack incoherent message . They ? You ? USA ? Lol what the…. You don’t know I am . The US did not organize the tournament. Who is they ?? Englishs and Italians did the same at Wimbledon euro final 2020. It’s a Secruity and preparation issue . Soccer fans world wide are filled with zeal. Please make a good argument. Something ? Lol
Argentina has played 30 Copa America finals, yet Argentine fans never tried to enter without tickets or through the air ducts.
The fact that you see some people wearing Argentina jerseys does not mean they're Argentines. Messi fans are everywhere.
Colombians caused this chaos. They tried to enter with fake tickets first. Then, they sneaked into the stadium.
It’s the organization’s fault by catering to messi with hosting the final in that small stadium where he lives. It definitely should have been at a bigger stadium smh
👍🏼👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼 so true
How ignorant can you be thinking somehow Messi has anything to do with this mess? This is just on the thousands of fans overpowering a security system that was inadequate for this type of incident.
“Passion” is NOT an excuse for behavior like this
Make no mistake, CONMEBOL is at fault here.
Why does this remind me of the euros 2021 finals
I don't know.
Wrong!!!!! In South America we know exactly what Conmebol is, we know that this wasn’t a FIFA tournament
Is this still America?
Did they kick everyone out and reenter everyone?
At least he put the responsibility on CONMEBOL.
they should be banned by fifa
lol
Close the borders
😂😂😂 your latino
Figueroa.
Football/ Soccer fans are another breed. They need to learn from European soccer crowd control. It all starts on the outer perimeter. If act like a hooligan before you enter (and I'm talking 100's of yards away from the entrance you get detained. Clearly, there was none of that outside of the stadium. US and Canada better be prepared come World Cup 2026.
True but NFL games have better security and perimeter ticket control than these games did. And NFL fans are not nearly as fanatical. The security was more than lacking it was literally non existent for most of the games. In Miami they actually had automated scanner and a turnstile manning the gates! No excuse.
@@mackdeen7021 When I say Football/ Soccer, I'm literally meaning ONLY soccer as an American and NOT NFL games. I've been to NFL games in Buffalo and the tailgating is the rowdiest part in all good fun! Having said that there are some idiots that get drunk and ruin things. Overall good times!
Ay Colombia , Colombia 😅
Seems to be that countries fan base because weve never had issues at any events before.
The US doesn’t understand how big this sport is. The city thinks its just soccer it’ll be a busier version of MLS so they don’t properly prepare they need to understand how big these events actually are and have a large amount of security for these games
In 2 year in the world cup is the US going to learn from this
South Florida. Third world.
oh yea blame the organizers for expecting ppl to act relatively orderly like they usually do at this stadium, you know during nfl games college games ext.
Not to defend CONMEBOL but all entities are to blame including US Soccer, CONCACAF, local law enforcement, etc. Luckily it didn’t get to Travis Scott-level tragedies but this is a close 2nd
I won't forget England Fans ran and entered the Wembley Stadium without tickets in the Euro 2020 Finals.
This Copa América tournament demonstrated that the US is not able to host these types of large tournaments. It’s not the same as 1994 and the US is not prepared.
You must have missed the 2021 Euro Final 😂🤣
There a huge difference between CONMEBOL Copa América v. FIFA World Cup.
The US hosted the 2016 copa America as well and there were no issues. The US has nothing to do with this🤣
In Europe, I am used to hooligans aka Ultras and in South America, Barra Bravas and Torcidas Organizadas. However what I am seeing here just cannot be named yet. Europe can teach the US how to handle situation like that. People from peripheral gates show their tickets and get searched and are allowed in. On the other hand, NFL can handle business as well, I am just asking myself one thing, were the people decided to behave the same way they used to back from their country of origin?
Is not like Taylor Swift concert. Is a fútbol final with fans. You don't understand. Is not soccer. Is fútbol.
"Soccer": abbreviation of "Association Football". The OFFICIAL name of the game.
FIFA: International Federation of Association Football
2:00 - I totally agree. Stupid to think that this was going to be similar to an MLS game.
Not because you barely know what CONMEBOL is, it doesn't mean that fans don't know what it is. Fans know what CONMEBOL is. Fifa better prepare for the world cup and explain the magnitud of it to the police and whoever is going to organize the security.
I know that FIFA will do a better job at handling security when the World Cup is here in another two years. But it’s still a bad image. You’re talking about two South American teams, one of which is the current World Cup winner. Of course the crowd will be much more chaotic than just a normal game. CONMEBOL really dropped the ball on this. The US has hosted the World Cup before and I’m more than certain that FIFA will have much better security measures in place.
It was 101 degrees at 10 am in the morning lol
This reporter doesn’t want to criticize his people. 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🙄
BIELSA WAS RIGHT, “THIS ORGANIZATION WAS A SHAME “
This is what they do in the Central and South American nations that they come from. It's cultural...
I did not whatch the game, but this is a terrible behavior. The organizer should have be prepared, these issues occur on any country and by any skin color of the fans (see cases in the British championships)
People should demand the resignation of Commebol president. It is obvious they are diverting money that should have been used in security at such a massive event.
There were more security for Shakira than for the fans