Strength Endurance: Pushing Beyond Limits With Extreme Workouts
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Awesome! I couldn't agree more with almost everything you said.
I just think you are selling your own strength endurance feats considerably short by comparing them to an eight hour arm workout. In my opinion, the latter can be beneficial, too, but only on a psychological level, namely by helping you develop that kind of relentless mindset that you need to progress beyond a certain level, especially as a natural athlete. On a merely neurophysiological level I rather go with doctor Mike and highly doubt it will make your arms grow at all, let alone faster than a normal workout, not even for someone on as much gear as Rich Piana was. As for the possibility of triggering systemic anabolism: I think that is much more likely to occur from a whole body endeavor like your bear hug carries and "spammed" shoulderings, because they put load on your spine - continuously and repeatedly. On the other hand, isolation exercises for the upper extremities usually don't even cause central nervous fatigue, let alone that deep subconscious "Oh crap, we have to get bigger in order to not get crushed"-panic. Arms can get amputated, if they are injured beyond fixing, because they are not essential for survival. The spine, however, is.
There is also the proprioceptive aspect: Curls after curls after curls will numb not only your biceps as such but especially its ability to adapt in real time to sudden shifts in strain and leverage and angles, because the movement is so monotonous. In contrast, every tiny pebble or tree root you step on during your carries sets off a cascade of proprioceptive adaption reactions from the soles of your feet to your head as well as the tips of your fingers.
Ok, TLDR-version: Imo 8h arm workouts may occasionally have some psychological value to certain bodybuilders in certain phases of their lifting career, whereas I would wholeheartedly recommend prolonged bear hug carries and high rep shoulderings to practically any serious bodybuilder 💪👍
I love this thank you!!
@@thestonecircle My pleasure! 🙂
@@thestonecirclewhats the Steve guys name I want to look up his videos. Also I love you content, being muscular and functionally fit, being healthy and ready to be fit to defend your community is my goal so I love this stuff.
@N81999 hey really glad you like the videos, and I think that goal is very honorable! Steve Justa
Time is a stone circle my brothers.
Frost hammer!!
@@thestonecircleYour gonna be the stone sphere soon
@Theendoftimekaliyuga 😁 I like that idea haha
I don’t do this type of training but I love how poetic, passionate he expresses what he preaches. There’s not many UA-camrs out there like him. He’s a rare breed, a humble passionate smart person.
Hey thanks so much for your support!
I used to load 18-wheelers for work. The goal was to load 500 boxes an hour total, with the weights ranging from almost nothing to about 60lbs. You'd put the heavy stuff at the bottom, and press the lighter stuff up top. I ate about 6,000 calories a night (I worked nights) being mostly chicken nuggets and cheese burgers totaling about 450 grams of protein a night. Now I was about 195lbs when I started (6'2 tall), so this amount of food was insane, but totally necessary. I still lost almost 30lbs in two months eating that amount of food, getting down to the low 170's. When I quit that job (it was awful) I started going back to the gym, and only lost 10lbs on my db bench, but my deadlift 1rm went from 335 to 355 at over twenty pounds lighter WITH NO OTHER TRAINING. If anything, I was detrained. I PR'd my deadlift about two weeks after quitting. As I gained weight again, I quickly got stronger than ever, taking my all-time bench from 195 to 225 in only 3 months. My deadlift PR is now 375 at 190. The other thing is that my core got really strong with all that dynamic lifting. All in all, even if you mostly focus on one lifting pattern (in this case loading trucks is essentially deadlifting for 12 hours 3 days in a row) you WILL get stronger, you will get lose weight/get leaner, but it can absolutely come at a cost quickly if you don't let yourself recover.
For those curious, I did the math a while back... I was burning more calories per shift than if I were to run a half marathon a night for 3 nights in a row.
That’s interesting. Reminds me of the people that would do Dan John’s 10,000 kettlebell swing challenge for a month and would report deadlift PR’s after the challenge was over.
I think one guy did a vid where he max-deadlifted like 365 with straps before the challenge, then for 30 days I think he did 300 or 350 swings a day for sets of 50 with a 70lb kettlebell, then after the challenge he max-deadlifted 395 without straps, if I remember all of this correctly. I might have the exact numbers wrong but I’m pretty sure he came close to 400 lbs.
That's an awesome story man! Just shows how effective this stuff can be!
I did his 10,000 swings in 10 days challenge back in 2017, completely fixed my hinge pattern and definitely made me a much better deadlifter!
My dad also did this job and had to quit because he was literally starving to death from the calorie burn. It’s no joke.
You're a philosopher king, bro. I have 1 sandbag, it's 184 lbs. I will put it on my shoulder, alternating shoulders, until I think I've had a good workout. I tried bear hug carries for the first time a few days ago, it was brutal. I picked it up and carried it for about 20 seconds about 10 times and I had had it. I was done. In other words, my sandbag workouts are intense but short. I am definitely going to try this ultra endurance approach. You look like a Greek statue.
Hey thank you that has to be the coolest compliment I've ever had, those Greek statues are perfection! I still look to that Farnese Hercules for motivation :) I think those short intense workouts are great I do a lot of that myself too, every once in a while the crazy endurance workout is a good change of pace though for sure!
you could stretch out the duration by only carrying it for 5 to 10 second bursts and resting a bit between each. youd be further from failure but be able to carry it for more distance if done right.
THIS is the kind of stuff that keeps me coming back to your channel. Absolutely top notch.
Hey thanks so much!!
This is the channel I needed.
Hey glad you're liking it!
You are not alone in that, brother.
The greatest benefit to me from long grueling workouts is that it makes normal workouts feel much easier. I used to ruck with 15 pounds then 30 then 50 and now 80. The easiest way to sustainably ruck 50 pounds was to force myself to carry 90 points then go back down to 50. 50 felt hard after 30 but going from 30 to 90 then to 50 made 50 feel much more achievable.
That's such a great benefit to this stuff! Really does make everything else feel so much easier
I did the same with 60/40 bags. 40s are basically weightless unless I’m doing Zerchers
I did a Demolition job 2 years ago for 5 months, still one of my favourite jobs I've ever done. Had to smash things down until a month in they got a Bobcat to start ripping up the flooring, collecting bricks to put in an 'Armorguard Rubble Truck' (a big heavy duty wheelbarrow), we as the labourers had to pick up metal, and wood ourselves and throw it into skips, but with the Rubble trucks we had to empty it outside on the floor for the excavator to pick it up and throw into the skip. Every day I was lifting, pushing and pulling around 6+ tonnes a day easily, it became obsessive to keep picking up more and more to the point my gym work outs got weaker but I didn't care. So we're talking about 7-8 hours of hard manual labouring accompanied with gymming 3/4 days of the week. This was strength and mental endurance at it's peak for me.
Dang that's some true strength endurance!!
This is a very interesting concept. Not from a muscle building perspective I think. But as a mental challenge and also very importantly, to build connective tissue. People that do rucking usually only do one of the big sessions every 14 days to every month.. and they improve. The same goes for marathon+ runners. Those extra long runs build resillience mentally and in your tidsues, so you can take the pounding. A slow but necessary process
That's a great point about the rucking/running I hadn't thought of that!
1 month sand bag lifting thanks to you bro! Eating good, and training hard. Actually starting to see some back muscles again. I’m getting stronger everyday. God bless you man 🤘🏼✝️
Heck yeah man!!
Best fitness channel on youtube! Always relaying important information. Useful information. Honest! Cant wait to finish watching this!
Thanks so much man!! Glad I can still make stuff worthy of you being here even after all this time!
Compelling! Completely agree. I was put off as well until I did 100s of push ups and burpees, my body and mind changed for the better along with a decent diet
The high volume workouts really can do a lot!
Spot on. 🤘💯🤘
Functional fitness.
Functional strength.
Functional power.
Functional endurance.
There are some days where I push myself not enough. And there are those days where I push myself just enough. Then there are those days where I push myself more than enough, pushing past my limit even if for just a few more seconds; a few more movements; a few more steps. It wears me the eff out after and later on in the day. And then I have to take it easy the following day. And it's a totally humbling experience.
"Faster. Stronger. Smarter. More humble. Less ego."
-Jocko Willink
Hey awesome comment!! For sure pushing past that point takes it out of you like nothing else, definitely humbling!
I am now inspired to do these challenge workouts. Typically I’m a 20 rep squats kind of guy when it comes to challenging myself however the thought of bearhug carries, farmers carries or shouldering for hours on end might be the type of training lunacy I need.
Oh heck yeah! If you like 20 rep squats you'll love the ridiculousness of these strength endurance workouts haha
What you thinking man, down to back it up.
i am still weak but this is the type of work outs that are fun and that i now do regularly thank you
Hey I bet that strength is coming quick though!!
@@thestonecircle yes especialu after changing my eating
Sometimes I do what I call a gut check workout. Where the idea isn't building anything, but to make sure I can still do an extremely hard thing. An example would be my last one where I took a 50kg medicine ball and loaded it onto a sternum height platform until I had loaded a total of 16,000kg onto that platform. It took me just shy of 2 hours of work with no meaningful rest and really wiped me. I have a slight advantage here coming from a background of treework where for hours and hours everyday I'd be dragging branches and hauling logs but it's always hard regardless how used to it you are.
After stuff like that, things just dont seem as hard, its not like you're any fitter or any stronger but it's just reminded you what fatigue actually feels like, what it's like to just work. After that, training pales in comparison in terms of difficulty and I find myself able go harder simply because "well I don't feel as bad as that yet and even when I did, I didn't die so I'll just keep going". I reccomend everyone give themselves gut checks on occasion, just to remember what hard actually is.
16000kg / 50kg = 320 loads
And here I thought shouldering my sandbag 60 times was hard lol.
What a badass workout! Yeah that's exactly it, everything else is so easy after something like that!
I mean we're basically talking Crossfit, or a six-eight event strongman comp then, no? One's longer, the other heavier, but kinda the same idea. Since I've started competing in LW strongman, at age 42, I've realized I'll probably never get the big 240 lb+ log press, probably never see more than 500 lbs on the deadlift... But moving, loading events? Sandbags, stones, farmers carries... That's my jam. Already pretty competitive and will hopefully keep improving. And for me, that means training with longer, more exhausting sessions like this. If I can't build the static strength, I can build the strength endurance.
I have a 200lb odd object carry for distance coming next month. This is good inspiration! 😅. I feel like they'd have to be on a day all their own though... I currently have sandbag to shoulder at the end of an already heavy press day, usually five rounds of sixty seconds. There's no way I could do 100+ lol.
I'm so right there with you!! I find that stuff so much more enjoyable than anything else myself too :) good luck with the carry!
This video was the reason I tried climbingmy tree in my backyard for max amount of time. It goes higher than my house by almost double in height. I was able to push and go one hour straight of climbing up and down and walking around the yard as a ready time and was able to do 10x sets! Thank you man this video was really motivating
Wow that's seriously impressive so awesome!!
This is gold my friend!!! greetings from Chile 🎉
Hey thank you!! Greetings from CO, US :)
Excellent video!!!
Extreme workouts like this are no joke!
I worked moving fully made up kitchen units all day,8 to 10 hour shifts and my strength endurance went through the roof at this time!!
I love the idea of 2 hour bear hug carry session... that sounds brutal,gonna have to try this!!
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Thank you! And man that sounds like a tough day, I can only imagine the strength you get from doing something like that day after day!
Just when I was making a new training model and questioned myself it I was overdoing it. Mostly because I'm overweight and not consistent with training, so I would train for a while then stop. Thanks for this.
Hey I hope it helped! These crazy workouts definitely wear you down for a few days but used in moderation I think they're great! Good luck with the new setup 🙂
@@thestonecirclethe worst of all is that it makes you realize how much you have it in you to push through. Although when I did this type of thing was for work, so getting paid did the heavy lifting lol.
Dragging piles of boxes filled with fish weighing 50kg, picking them up, throwing the innards, and then the cleaning afterwards, made me lose a lot of weight and get really strong. And all of that in a few weeks. Normally I would start working at 4am and punch out after 16pm. So yeah, ultra long training sessions can make you a completely different guy in no time.
@luckyenforcer dang that sounds like an intense work day! I always love hearing these stories of how effective this stuff can be
Two years ago, I trained like this. I only did it with pushups. I didn,t hit legs cause I was in the army and we would run almost everyday. Now I know it was still a mistake not to hit them. Also I did not do any other exercise for upper body or core. It was really a shitty routine. The simplest it gets. I would do lots of sets to failure for an hour or two just to train and to kill some time and with the aim of building discipline in mind. As i said went hard as hell and did lots of sets. What happened is that my body got used to it and wouldn,t feel any pain were not training so it improved recovery capacity a lot. When the sergeants made us do pushups or even other exercises others would not be able to move their arms the next day and I was okey. Also gained about 20 pounds which felt like a bless cause I was really skiny and now I was thin but athletic. Upper body strength went up but nothing crazy. My cardio started improving way faster and became one of the fastest endurance runners in my section, probably because I had gained overall endurance and mainly because I was already running daily and my mental strength did the rest by making me push throuh pain to the first places. And yes it is exciting to make the most out of yourself and it builds crazy mental resilience.
That's so awesome!! It really does that mental resilience like nothing else, it's such a useful thing to have, I imagine VERY useful in that setting!
Damn your video idea variety amazes me, always something new and interesting😊
Hey thank you! Really glad I've been able to do that so far haha, most of the time when I try to think of a video topic I get nothing, then out of nowhere I'll think of 5 😄
Yes brother! I've actually been doing a similar thing for a couple of years now. Every 6 or 7 weeks I have what I call a "Quest" day which involves doing workouts and challenges all day, similar sort of stuff you're talking about. I'm gonna add in the 2 hour bearhug carry on my next one!
Heck, yes! I love that, I need to start thinking of these as quests asap!
Relevant topic and nice timing with the upload - New Strength Unknown has just dropped and that displays Strength Endurance with Grizzly with those Sled pushes. FULL 💪🏻
I saw that they just kept going!! One day I'll figure out how to rig something like that up 😄
This is simply peak.
Hey glad you liked it!
6:45 Alex Leonidas did a video the other day about Dips. This seems to fit what he was saying about people doing 50 dips to 100 dips before adding weight.
That was such a great video!
Caveman/Bigfoot workout 🌲🪨💪🏽⛰️
Haha yes! 😁🌲🌲🌲
Great stuff. Thanks. Bear Hug Carry session is now on the docket.
Heck yeah it makes for an intense workout!!
I'm really into grind kettlebell workouts (30 minutes just doing clean and press or front squat with one heavy bell for example) and callisthenics but I'm definitely throwing in sandbag work 3 times a week now. I'm a commercial diver so I rarely have access to a gym, seems like the perfect compliment to kb and body weight work
That kettlebell style sounds like something I need to try asap, sounds completely brutal! I think you'll like the sandbag stuff!
YES keep pushing the boundaries!! I think there's so much merit to this idea. I'm gonna try it and I'll let you know how it goes. Definitely gonna check out Rock Iron Steel too.
Not sure if I've said this plainly before, but I really love your approach to training. You frame it almost like an adventure you're going on, as apposed to just checking boxes to achieve certain outcomes.
Your channel is such a breath of fresh air in the UA-cam fitness space and I'm glad you're starting to get some wider recognition. I find it very inspiring as I come back to my own channel and decide how I want to approach making videos in the future.
Keep up the great work!
Hey thanks I always appreciate your support!! Good luck with the strength endurance workout :) I definitely think training is way more fun as an adventure :D
a blessing to come across this video.
My desire is to do strengh exercices, but never using dumbbells again.
Thanks to you, I discovered the sandbag tool. Something I had never considered. It makes me so happy to discover new exercises, and to free myself from the gym !
thank you
I can no longer stand the atmosphere of a room. I want to train at home, or outside, in a park. Be free !!
For years, all my sessions revolved around the same exercises.
Since I changed, I've discovered so much that I don't know what to choose! it's so good. I think it may be possible to do 4 programs in one month, with 4 completely different weeks.
It's incredible
lets go for a sand baag !
Hey so glad you've decided to start working with sandbags! I know that exact feeling, it's so great having that freedom :)
Great video Cody, I read the title and immediately said to myself he's going to mention Steve Justa working in the foundry haha!
This got me thinking, I started weight lifting in 2002, I ordered some obscure ring binder amateurishly printed course back then, I can't remember at all what it was called but part of it was going through a period of time which required full days of training each lift, it was for hours on end! I actually planned it around holidays so it would fit my schedule. I have went through stages of my life completely untrained and now just general fitness and some odd object lifting but I never lost that bulky wide shouldered thick neck look which I think those crazy workouts acheived. Your video brought it back to me.
Haha yes hard not to mention his awesome book! That course sounds like a true gem there really does seem to be something to these long workouts. That's a good thought too, knowing that look of power sticks around :)
Steve’s Target Zone training makes sense as well 👍🏼
Definitely!
Rock, Iron, Steel is a great book.
There’s a thread on the Ironmind forum about long duration atlas stone sessions. One man said he loaded his 225 lb stone 75 times in one session. Pretty impressive.
I love those old ironmind forums! Learned so much about stone lifting from those guys, even if the threads were already years old by the time I read them haha. That sounds like an intense workout, 75 times with 225 is just ridiculous! Supposedly one of the modern Basque stone lifters shouldered 100kg 1,000 times in a couple hours or something like that (heard this story secondhand from 'Training everyday until I die' Maybe he'll see this and chime in) but it's amazing what people are capable of!
This video also has me thinking about incorporating carries/loads into a One Lift a Day Program (Dan John). And, something like this is just a good challenge workout, a test of mental toughness we all need every so often.
@matthewbosnick7879 Yes Dan John is the man! There really is something to be said for those one lift sessions, just hyper-focused in on that one thing
Another great video! Looking forward to more in the future!
Hey thank you!
You are a forerunner with Bioneer with hybrid training. I am in the realm of GPP and combat sports, and a passion for the Olympic lifts.
Thanks you the Bioneer is great!
Right now I am at home with an ear infection, but once I am healthy again, I will be incorporating the Sand Bag into my three day routine. Thanks Bro
Hey awesome I think you'll love it, hoping for a fast recovery for you!
Great video. I first got onto the idea after reading Rock, Iron, Steel by Steve Justa (RIP) from Ironmind.
Steve said you didn't need to do these workouts often, as they would stick with you for the rest of your life. Two that come to mind for me are when I did 3 reps every minute of 225lb trap bar deadlift for 80 minutes (so 240 reps) and doing a mile of walking lunges. If you're using an exercise/weight you can do 10-30 reps with, the problem is never muscular failure. You can always do another rep. It becomes a total mind game and test of willpower.
Thanks! Love those old ironmind forums. That walking lunges for a mile workout is so crazy haha, no doubt it stays with you!
Wow, I read the same book and do the same thing on each full moon. I call it a Misogi, loosely based on the Japanese Samurai Waterfall ritual. Some of my workouts have been - body weight on a sled and push pull for 2 hours. BW sandbag 1 mile carry. 25k trail run. Ruck with 20kg KB for 15kilometers each 5k mark I do snatches, squats pushups etc.
They’re truly humbling workouts and no doubt beneficial for the body but more so for resilience in my opinion.
Definitely going to try a longer workout of carrying a stone or what not. seems interesting.
Hey good luck! It gets tough quick haha, feels great when you're done though!
Rock, Iron, Steel
Great book 👍🏼
And great motivation from you. Keep it coming 👊🏼
Hey thank you! Yes what a great book
this sort of mindset works really well with burpees. imagine doing navy seals burpees broken up by 10-15 seconds between each rep. it would start off super easy but very quickly that difficulty would add up. im not even sure how long i could manage that pace.
That would be killer!!
@@thestonecircle could superset a rep goal or time limit with some lighter, longer distance sandbag carries or something as well
@penumbrium heck yes, extreme endurance and strength endurance simultaneously
Outstanding video buddy .thanks
Hey thank you!
Thanks for sharing.
Hey thanks for being here!
Nice video. This idea makes me think about the mountain hiking trips I occasionally take. They’re essentially hours long “leg workouts” with a nice view although I’d never really thought about them that way before. I would always be on a bit of a high for several days afterwards although completely worn out at the same time. The feeling of accomplishment of completing a demanding physical challenge is great for the soul.
So true! There's nothing like a good hiking trip, I think there's even more going on there, being in nature always gives me that feeling too!
I helped a guy with Coleman's syndrome go from can't do 1 push-up to 30 pushups with just 1 week of training. The solution was, max rep every hour. First from knees, then real pushups.
Those are really impressive results awesome!!
Good video as always. This kind of reminds me of Dan John's 10,000 Kettlebell swings challenge and additional benefits some people notice after completing the challenge.
Thank you! I did the 10,000 swings in 10 days challenge a while back, it really did cause a lot of good things to happen! Like an even more extreme version of this, Dan John really is a great coach!
This is my favorite channel im into all this i didnt know there was people doing this 😂 , this guy is way more proffesional than myself though , 😂 love the channel
Hey thank you! Do you use stones for your strength endurance workouts too??
Hah man i used to work in a transportation work witch i was unloading trucks reloading smaller trucks and unload them again and carry the bags boxes furnitures and freezers and other odd objects to the owners more than 12 hours a day 6 some times 7 day's a week most times all alone,i really now what endurance strength is even if i not even close have my current single heavys and maxes💯
That's awesome you've really lived this stuff!
I don't have a sandbag or stones to do this with, but a good gym substitute is to carry heavy plates or dumbells in different positions and just walk back and forth for half an hour or so. The more awkward positions, the better. It's lead to a tremendous increase in strength endurance and mass on the upper back. Cannot recommend this enough!
Hey that's a great way to do it!!
Ive always trained for strength- The size never came but im solid for a 49year old
I've always found strength training a lot more enjoyable myself!
Thank you so much for your initiative.
I really appriciate your stuff.
I love thos idea I would really like to incorporate it.
What would you surggest for recovery after such a beast session?
Hey thanks I'm glad you like it! Usually for me it's lots of food and sleep :) and the next day I'll make sure to dead hang from a pullup bar for a good 10 minutes throughout the day for the spinal decompression
Great video
Thank you!
Fuck yeah, been through this many times with work. It all ends up coming down to the mind. Great video bro. We didn’t evolve doing a convenient amount of sets and reps, sometimes life is supposed to involve a brutal level of physical output. I would wager it’s more in line with what humans are designed for than hitting sets of 2 reps or whatever with big rests.
I believe it man, you're really out there putting in the work!! I think you have to be right, it only makes sense anything that needs doing usually needs done again!
I discovered you last week man and your videos have been such a joy to watch. I’m gonna be incorporating heavy sand bag into my 5 day routine here soon when I get my bags delivered.
Random personal question but are you a gamer at all? And if so what are you currently playing?
Heck yeah so glad to have you here!! Good luck with the sandbags I think you're gonna love it :)
Definitely! I kinda forced myself to stop playing anything for the last year to really double down on work and making videos, but I have a huge list I plan on getting to at some point! If I could be playing anything right now it would be the Elden Ring expansion, my favorite games are probably Bloodborn, Dark Souls 3, and The Witcher 3
Accurate descriptions of Steve Justa abound. Likewise I wish the dude was still around to write more.
Yes what an interesting guy!
Excellent video, really glad I subscribed to this channel, hope the channel blows up soon. Have you tried Indian Club swings for shoulder mobility? or done any work with sand/rice buckets for grip and forearm work? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on those.
Cheers
Hey thank you!! I haven't tried either myself but I definitely plan on it, for some reason the rice bucket training has always just seemed so awesome
Bro your on the rise in YT fitness. Love these calm, VO type videos you do. Also you look AMAZING 😍😍 No Diddy 😏
Hey thank you! 🙂
This guy rules!
Hey you're the best! :)
I'm a relative beginner with all of this. Ive had some time in the gym but overall I'm more on the skinny side. Ive been watching your videos for a couple weeks now after seeing your rucking video. Really hits home.
My work chopped down a tree a week ago and oh man did i see that as an opportunity because of what you've imprinted on me. Ive got some torso sized logs in the garage and its been great.
I still struggle a lot with them and worry about proper form. I dont want to overload my lower back. Have you thought about doing any beginner oriented videos at all? Or have any youve done you'd recommend?
Hey that's so awesome you've been working with the log lifting, so fun!! This one is about sandbags but most of it should apply pretty well to logs. (Sorry I used to kinda shout in my videos lol) ua-cam.com/video/69gorZAu7yM/v-deo.htmlsi=WOn7cs4rx8YYY9sa
Great to hear you speak of Steve justa sadly missed rock iron steel is my favourite book on training his book on isometrics is excellent also
What a character! I keep meaning to go back to the isometrics book, I think at the time I read it I was so obsessed with stones I didn't get as much out of it as I could have, definitely want to get into more isometric training!
Great stuff. I love shouldering sandbags so I might try this craziness one of these days!
Hey thank you hope it goes well! Seriously helps so much with dialing in that technique!
@@thestonecircle on your stone to shoulder endurance, is there any reason you opted to lap-chest-shoulder as opposed to lap-to-shoulder directly?
@@Jimperial that particular stone goes up easiest that way based on the shape 🙂
@@thestonecircle thanks man! Is there any benefit to doing the same using sandbags?
@@Jimperialonce the weights get heavy enough I think using some rotation like this can help a lot! I have a video in the making on that actually! Still a couple weeks away for that particular one, but to answer your question, definitely some benefit!
Gotta give this a go. What im using right now for a start is as i do medieval reenactments is basically all the bits or armour ive acquired in a large canvas sack. Its also good practise for when i have to carry it all to an event. And has the floopyness of a looser sandbag.
Hey that's so awesome!! I'd love to get into that myself someday. Do you have any tips for getting historically accurate stuff as a beginner?
@thestonecircle So I was exceptionally fortunate to befriend a guy in my local Longbow archery club. Who was starting out with tailoring. He would get me round his and measure me then I'd pay him for materials. N I would help in some capacity to help him finish the piece. For example when we made A Brigandine chest piece after buying a bunch of basically scrap offcuts (16 gauge galvanised steel) then cut them roughly to shape and drill holes then I would hand rivet them with the ball peen hammer and pliers. About 760 in total aha. So in conclusion I think either a local archery club or Hema school would be a good place to start. There would certainly be someone to point you in the right direction I'd imagine. There are also reenactment trade and sale Facebook pages selling good second hand stuff too.
@ajaxtelamonian5134 hey thanks! That has to add a lot to it being part of the process like that too!
Fun stuff
Glad you liked it!
I like the way you think. Everytime i hear someone say "don't do over 15 reps per set for muscle growth, because you are most likely to fail the set because your lungs fail or you can't take the pain/burn and you stop" I cringe because if some one is that out of shape and mentally weak that can't do a set of 30 for example to muscular failure especially any upper body movement, that person should reconsider getting more conditioned before anything else.
I agree completely!
If you want to overcome limits, then you should try overcoming isometrics and yielding isometrics.
Actually getting back into Steve Justa's book on that too! Excited to give it a real honest try
@@thestonecircle Same!
the principle of diminished returns is generally understood, but considering every variable, its (imho) not specifically understood, the great gamma did something like 5000 to 6000 sqts a day in his 50's.. and was arguably unstoppable, howecerthe amount of training he underwent on his way to that cant be overstated. he started with a paltey 500 a day on his teens
Yeah to keep up with something like that every single day, just crazy! Definitely gotta work up to it
it is a lifetime commitment! for sure..
Hey man, I love your channel and approach, it totally resonates with me and I'm going to start training like this. I have a question, how would you approach adding sandbag (rocks and logs in my case) training into a 6 day program? Would you add some carries everyday or would you do a single day dedicated to it? any advice you have on starting to incorporate it would be much appreciated (if you have a video on this already pls lmk) thank you for the great content man, its very inspiring
Hey glad to have you here! You're right on with the carries, I usually recommend adding 2-3 sets of max distance bear hug carries at the end of your squat or deadlift day once a week for a while, and eventually bump it up to twice a week if you'd like. That gives a solid base and from there you can add in as much as you want!
@@thestonecircle i appreciate that advice man, thank you!
That’s what I have been doing hehehe. I do 45kb cleans per arm every day with 32kg. Working myself up to a 100. I will do that with the sandbag at one point also.
Hey that sounds awesome! I can only imagine how much of a beast you'll be when you hit that 100 mark!
Dude you just blew my mind! For a young guy like you to have such an understanding of the principles and be able to apply them across the strength and conditioning spectrum. The fricken supposed experts can't do that. Side note the 8 hr. arm routine is an old school routine. I'm not sure how far back it goes at least the sixties. Maybe farther? It also is not just an arm routine. It could be used on any body part. I've read accounts of Arnold using it w/ squats. It became the 8 hr. arm routine, because that's how most people used it. Oh, I've also seen it done for 10 &12 hr. It also was originally meant for nattys so it could have come from before steroids. The point is not to blast the muscle like Rich says, but to maintain a pump and keep trying to push the protein from the shakes or, the way I first saw it, dessicated live tables into the muscle. Years later when aminos were invented I saw it done w/ that. I've done it a few times when I was younger. Didn't see the results that are claimed, but I couldn't afford the protein power and liver tables. I believe it's still worth doing for all the reason you cite.
Thanks so much I always value your opinion! I didn't know that about the 8 hour arm workout that's so cool! I love that old school logic, it just makes sense
Nice idea. Ever thought about doing it once a wwek with a calistenics movement?
I think that could work pretty well! From all the time I've spent doing greasing the groove pullups, it does seem like you can push the volume pretty far with that stuff!
@@thestonecirclelooks like I will be giving it a go. Thanks for another inspirational video
I got a couple minutes in and I was saying to myself, "Cody needs to read Steve Justa's book", and then you said that you read a book...
Hahah it's such a good read!!
How many rest/easy days would you take after the big workout? Or did you just listen to your body before hitting heavy weight again?
Also! Haven’t been seeing you do many of the zercher pin squats lately. Have you been taking on more stone work in its place?
Usually at least 3 or 4 days without anything too heavy, but I like to throw these in right before a deload too. I put all my barbells in storage last year, been all sandbags and calisthenics :)
Your channel amazing! Appreciate your insight -.-/
Hey thanks so much!
I highly suggest you try that same method with your calisthenics, brother. Im sure you know at least a little about the old school NY calisthenics scene. Some of these guys are on those bars for hours. Their warmups alone can destroy you. Every workout, almost every day is thousands of reps. And they look like freakin body builders most of them. Doing 600 pullups an hour or some crazy shit like that
Those guys are next level! The closest I've come to that is greasing the groove pullups all day, but some extreme challenge calisthenics workouts sound brutal!
Bro you just read my mind. I was thinking about doing a super high rep shouldering session before we get off for 12th of July holidays over here. Might as well throw in a 2 hour bear hug carry session at some.stage as well. I've seen great results coming back from one of them mtor resets that team3dalpha talks about.
Heck yeah there's nothing like it!! I've thrown these in as a final push the day before a deload a few times and it's a really great way to finish off a training block!
@thestonecircle also have done a few workouts adding in the rows and box squats. Tried horse stance last night and it's went up 30 seconds I couldn't believe it only after a few workouts
@@keith4957that's a great improvement!!
Where'd you get your stone collection mate? I'm keen to grab a few but I have no idea if taking them from a reserve is legal or not
I collected these in the mountains with permission but I'm not sure on the laws for taking them randomly, you can find a lot of good stones by rivers though! Smooths down the rough edges
I have to actively keep myself from doing too much. I end up losing gains and fighting injuries if I don't. I was lifting 6 days a week and now I lift 4 days and do cardio 2.
Definitely walked that line many times myself haha, that sounds like a great setup you have now though, props for making the time for cardio!
@@thestonecircle I know right cardio is gross. LMAO
@ChrisCoul haha so worth it though!
Where oh where can I find those tied pants and the shirt? Love your vids man keep up the good work.
Hey thank you! Here's the setup I have in the video. The shirt does fit kinda funny but it does the trick. The pants are awesome though! Usually anything Bergschneider or Mytholon from the Medieval Collectibles site is good. Actual clothes rather than a costume 🙂
www.medievalcollectibles.com/product/ketill-canvas-pants/
www.medievalcollectibles.com/product/canvas-hamond-leg-wraps/
www.medievalcollectibles.com/product/jonathan-shirt/
@@thestonecircle You're a Godsend my guy
@IcarusTheRaven hey good luck! I'd say the pants add at least +10 strength just from the coolness factor haha
@@thestonecirclelol, I sometimes assign stats to my clothing items as well
@stonesofjoshua5516 haha yes 😁
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hi man i was wondering if i can use some clips of your videos in a video I'm going to start working on ?
Hey thanks for asking, I'd be honored!
@@thestonecircle Is that a yes ?
@@oliversmith1760oh yeah feel free
@@thestonecircle i will send you the link when it done
@@oliversmith1760 I look forward to it!
Please Answer. Does long endurance running increase testosterone, because i have heard it releases cortisol and its bad for test but i also have heard that our ancestors out endured their prey to catch it while having more testosterone than we do. So how does it work, i am confused.
This is just my opinion, but I think modern fitness places WAY too much emphasis on testosterone. Even if endurance running did temporarily lower testosterone, the health benefits from running far outweigh that in any case. I'd say if you like running, if you can do it without any joint pain and it makes you happy, do it and screw the testosterone! The benefits you get from running will be worth it in the long run.
@@thestonecirclei just do it bc its painful
How can I get your book without the sand bag?
Mine should be out soon! I really appreciate your interest in it, I'll definitely let you know when it's fully published :)
Please tell me benifit of sand bag lifting
It makes you big and strong!
"8h arm workout could add an inch to your bicep"
Rhabdomyolysis has entered the chat 😅
This video reminded me of an interview with Chinese weightlifter, Tian Tao. His numbers hit a plateau so his coach made him do squat jumps for 800m. He says after he recovered he broke his plateau. I managed to find the interview and the link is below. I think the relevant part is around the 1m10s mark.
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Dang that's a real challenge workout if I've seen one :O thank you for this!
What's the update on your book brother ?
Hey thanks for asking! The book cover should be just about finished up and I think that's the last stage!!
neck training vid when?
I could do that!
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I will squat 315x100
Heck yes you got this, awesome back btw :O
There is a problem about Strength Endurance: you can be tough enough to achieve it but probably such a guy will not be recognized either by physical appearance (like bodybuilders for example) nor by extreme good execution (like technical athlete), thus it is not much "showable" or impressive on the social media (uploading 8h sped-up training sessions is not something that really will add much following) thus the lack of such clips in youtube. Most of such strength endurance freaks are just a rare breed of people who love to challenge themselves and who live and train in solitude, but there are exceptions like David Goggins for example, but there must be large witness proof or records of some kind to develop the legend or else it is as nothing really has happened.
Yeah that's a great point, it definitely transfers over better to in person situations than the internet! Becomes pretty clear when you show up to help a friend move and you're flyin though haha
@@thestonecircle Yeah, its real world / life strength, it must be felt in person to really be understood :)
When you look at pro athletes you find that they have next to no such brutal sessions. They avoid them. Why? You can only stimulate so much growth with one session. Going beyond that doesn't make you grow more, it makes you injured or skip the next couple of sessions.
I guess it depends on what you consider a pro athlete. I spent a couple months at a powerlifting/oly lifting gym with nationally ranked lifters, and many times I'd see the weightlifters doing this exact thing. Every 5 minutes they'd do a snatch, then hang out on their phone for another 5 and go again for hours. I'd also argue there's a difference between a pro athlete who trains for one specific sport, and an average lifter who trains for bodybuilding and general strength
Sounds like eating up a lot of your free time to simulate a job you wouldn't want and not getting the strength or hypertrophy benefit you could out of a 1 hour session
It might sound that way in theory but in my experience it's not actually like that at all
While I do think there's a lot of value to this, when it comes to the Rich Piana 8 hour arm work out... Let me introduce you to my pal, Rhabdo. Strength endurance is huge. No doubt. But there IS such a thing as too much, all at once. Something like the bear hug carry, that's going to be relatively safe. You're not doing a focused, single muscle group full-ROM movement. Doing what Piana did? 8 hours of just arms? You're at VERY high risk of rhabdomyolysis. Rhabdo will kill you. And it's going to hurt the entire time.
Hey not a bad point man there's always that chance. I've done some pretty ridiculous things but I can't say I've ever pushed one joint for 8 hours haha, just insanity
@@thestonecircle The various carries are probably the safest approach to an endurance challenge like that. Or some other large compound movement. Isolated movements though... Sheeesh. As someone with a medical background... That's a big yikes.
Rhabdo happens when
1) the stimulus is too new
2) you weren't drinking enough water
if you build up to it and drink water there'll be no problem. There are athletes that train ALL day. Ancient warriors fought for multiple days continuously.
@@user-he4ef9br7z Rhabdo can happen for a lot more reasons than that. Intensity, volume, ambient temperature, hydration status, and whether you're adequately recovered from previous workouts, can all play into it. It happens to even seasoned athletes. Marathon runners, Crossfit competitors, etc etc.
Embrace the suck.
I’m definitely going to do this, but with a log.
That's gonna be awesome!!
Wow, I read the same book and do the same thing on each full moon. I call it a Misogi, loosely based on the Japanese Samurai Waterfall ritual. Some of my workouts have been - body weight on a sled and push pull for 2 hours. BW sandbag 1 mile carry. 25k trail run. Ruck with 20kg KB for 15kilometers each 5k mark I do snatches, squats pushups etc.
They’re truly humbling workouts and no doubt beneficial for the body but more so for resilience in my opinion.