KEF KC62 vs REL T7X vs SVS 3000 micro - The Ultimate Compact Subwoofer Shootout
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- This is the subwoofer test for Audiophile subs and Home theatre subs. The new REL T7X vs KEF KC62 vs SVS 3000 Micro subwoofer.
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Is the give away only for Canada? Not England? 😬
Oh, difficult choice and considering waf plus wallet... svs micro is my choice
I hope win the REL Subwoofer. Thanks
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Did the draw already happen? Who won? Cant seem to find the anouncement in any of your page. Same with the tekton lore giveaway. Thanks guys and more power!
KEF KC62 for me. Musicality and ability to disappear are most important for me. KEF has the lowest SPL output but I tend to run my subwoofer on the low setting anyway. Nice video guys. Great job!
Great review, guys! For me, the winner would be the REL because of its well known elegance and musical prowess! 😉
The Kef really has my eye. In addition to multiple exceptional reviews, the size is just hard to beat. I could easily integrate dual KC62s into my smaller room without impacting the aesthetics or feel of the space in my smaller listening room. Not that any of these are large, but the KC62s are just so small, and the rounded matte finish boxes just seem more discrete. The white can just blend in to the walls and melt away.
Agreed. My KC62 arrives in two days.
@@Ford363Stroker Nice. How do you like your KC62?
It has your eye because you have a good eye! It's top notch.
I returned the KC62. You can definitely feel it. I just thought it lacked any type of texture or nuance compared to my SVS SB1000 Pro.
@@losriosprofundos2113 Appreciate the feedback!
I love the utility of the SVS app, and combined with the affordability, I’d have to spend the extra hundred and get duals! No brainer for me. Having dual PB3000’s has been a game changer in my home. Also, since it’s dual use (70% movies, 30% music), it would be the perfect option. One final point not mentioned regarding the SVS connectivity is the Soundpath wireless integration. It is very handy for certain setups when wires are difficult to run. Their latest tri-band system is fantastic.
Great comparison points gentleman. I enjoyed this a lot.
Any thoughts on Kef?
I like the KEF, just a nice overall package.
Because you have exquisite taste my friend.
South Indian & South Korean, shares different tastes and different cultures but passion for sound unites.
The Rel is for Europeans.
Two SVS subs linked with app control. best bang for the buck.
Not untrue but not true either. Entirely depends on your room.
Which is way better than 1 kef which is the same price as the 2 SVS
REL subs are finished so nicely. I was amazed when I unboxed mine. Also, twice REL went above and beyond to make sure I hooked up correctly.
The KEF is a beauty, but it is in a different price category than the REL.
For music listening, I'd go with the Kef. Absolutely. Having a greater extension and a more linear and faster bass response is really nice to get it to integrate naturally with other speakers.
Gosh results of the shoot out really help me make up my mind the distinction between what was the best second best third is so clear so easy to discern and the reason for it so easy to understand you might as well take this video and throw it in the trash
Hard to say but the Kef has a certain feel to it that makes it for me.
Love REL's dual simultaneous use of hi-fi and home cinema setups through parallel connections (high level + LFE)
Does the REL parallel connection feature offer an advantage over having an AVR do the same?
@@fumpt Honestly, as long as the Front L & R are crossed over smoothly with the sub, an AVR with a sub is the better option. But I'm not a "go big or go home" audiophile.
I like all 3. But I'd have to stick with Rel for my Maggie's.
I'm an SVS guy. I've got an SB-2000 and PC-2000 still performing very well. I bought the 3000 Micro to pair with my LS50 Metas for my PC audio system. I love this little guy! The wireless app and $700 savings over the KC62 along with my great experience with SVS made the Micro the obvious choice for me.
@@Shaken_AND_Stirred I've not used the SB3000. I think it would likely overpower the Micro, though. I love my non-pro SB2000, too. The Micro really surprised me with its tight, punchy bass at such a small size. It does great with my music and games on my PC. Hope this helps.
@@Shaken_AND_Stirred If size is not an issue, Sb3000! I have one and it shakes the room. Of course if your room is small SB3000 will overpower.
I would probably choose the Rel in white but don’t think there is a wrong answer. Surprised it had the most dynamics though. Specs don’t lead to that take away but can’t just trust specs to make your decision. Great video!
I have LS50 wireless 2s and I’d still go REL. I just love the warmth and sound of a REL. The look of the new X series too... oooh
How the heck can a sub sound warmth?
Boomy, Flat, Tight, Fast, and Articulate. Warm...really?!
Love to both of you. I have Kef speakers as well. Also am living “alternative” lifestyle like you two fine men and appreciate your openness.
So close for me between REL and SVS. Literally on the boomy fence. Great video gentlemen.
Thank you guys for another objective and logical video. Sounds like its impossible to decide between the REL and the KEF without listening to them side by side. Thank you again!
Great comparison, but I would choose the REL over the other two because of ease of integration and musicality. However, I don't think you could go wrong with any of the three. If price were the most important factor the SVS would be my choice. If I was using KEF LS50 meta's the KEF would be a natural.
From an audio consumer point of view, REL seems to have the best Brand Awareness among audio enthusiasts. The brand of REL is highly appreciated and has higher emotional connection with all segments of consumers. Going for REL is a complete no-brainer.
REL is not respected much in the audio world. They use to be great. I own an REL. Rythmik makes very nice subs as does KEL.
I like the idea of 2 SVS subs. That's my pick.
For me, it’s musicality and seemless Integration that matters the most always on a sub.
Word!
Driver size and power shouldn't get any points. Just SPL and extension.
Agreed. Especially amplifier "claims" from the manufacturer. Weight should not matter either?
If you can't physically sense it (weight, appearance, sound), who cares?
I was confused about the points ratings for this review. I agree with other comments that some initial points should have a much smaller weighting applied.
Initially the REL was down approx 5 points against both. Once the HT, musicality scores started getting judged it made ground quickly which to me is of higher importance
@@anneliesmith7556 I think people claim it has musicality because it's harder to integrate things to go deeper. Doesn't mean they are worse.
With room calibration you'd more easily integrate things and they would all sound equally 'musical' but the better ones would go deeper than the REL.
Bass slowness is primarily due to peaks that make it sound slow to us. Get rid of the peaks and all of the sudden it sounds fast.
This is also why people have the mistaken belief that some speakers are too big for the room: there is no such thing. You simply need a way of taming the peaks that develop, you can still enjoy things that go down to 20hz in a small room.
This is same analogy and logic that would rate a Hellcat over a Porsche 911, based of engine size and specific outputs.
Nice! However I would like to add something. I own a PB13 ultra subwoofer, in a 2.1 channel setup. Since I am using an integrated amplifier and not an AVR it was a huge chore for me to adjust subwoofer settings by moving this 100+ pound subwoofer and changing settings from the back. This year I replaced the subwoofer amp to one of the new ones with Bluetooth control, and I absolutely LOVE it. In your test you gave Bluetooth app integration 1 point but in my book that is a crucial feature and deserves much more mention than that (I know you talked about it further in the end but still it’s an amazing feature). It has improved my quality of life when I need to change settings on the fly, and something I look for now in subwoofers especially large ones. I just ordered a PB16 ultra for my home theater over the monolith 15 because of Bluetooth app integrated
I'm very tempted to get the new subwoofer amp for my PB13 Ultra aswell!
KEF all day every day! But the Rel would be a close second.
All the subs are obviously great but i would choose the rel. i have had several rel subs and find they blend with music so smoothly. Plus the finish and look is top notch
You guys do a great job with your scoring on this review
Thanks
Excellent video. Really useful and interesting comparison. I have 2 Rel T9I subs which I use to augment my Kef Ref 5 floorstanders. I’ve been thinking of placing a 3rd sub at the rear of the room. I was leaning toward the Kef. Your video has pushed me more towards the Rel.
Keep up the good work.
I’m liking the new Rel Cabinet design and would probably have to go with the T7X
I just ordered a full prime system, waited 37 days and returned, 100% of money returned and SVS paid the shipping! Outstanding! Now looking hard at the SVS ultra LCR and dual subs, but SVS has a huge edge with that customer service as a first time SVS customer.
REL for me all day long, bc I value texture and musicality.
Great video as always!
Butt ugly profile pic btw..... but I guess it fits the name of the individual ;-)
@@larsv6144 hahahahaha
Triggered? Good.
@@deeplyclosetedindividual Triggered? Do you even know what that means? Oh, yes, your F news channel and especially that guy from your pic are constantly triggered by reality and facts. hahhaha
I have a SVS SB2000 and love it, but as I move to a larger space, I would go with dual SVSs
Rel Tx series for me!
This is an awesome comparison thank you so much guys
I bought the SVS. Once I got it integrated with my speakers, the music put me in a trance.
Tried the svs micro, too boomy/one note for my liking would love to hear the other subs in this video
Havent even used my Mini DSP or run Audyssey yet with the micro. Really? Boomy? You must be running it so hot in a bad location. Watch or read more reviews, you don't know how to dial in a sub. period.
@@patrickmiller4987 in your opinion….
@@martinaston1715 Sure my opinion. Find a legitimate review that calls this sub boomy and or one note! It may not have the output of my HSU 15" or SVS 12" ported cylinder but boomy and one note!? Give me break, reviewers would not be raving over a tiny $800 sub if that was the case, their reps at stake. Many dont know how to integrate, level match, or just dont like real bass in their music/movies! Have you listened to one?
@@martinaston1715
Of course in his opinion, but his opinion is backed by enough facts. No svs sub is boomy, not even their cheapest, let alone the micro. If it sounds boomy then room correction/DSP wasn't or correctly applied and/or speaker placement and/or room-treatment were horrible.
I bought two REL T7/i's and they gave a 60 day price guarantee. About a month later, they had a sale. I emailed and indeed, they honored the price guarantee on both subs & immediately credited my card. Sweet!
I used to have an older REL T3 and it was an impressive little sub. It was in my budget at the time but knew going in it was undersized for the room (open layout home) but even then it was fantastic. It was still loud enough to shake the kitchen cabinets and rattle the glasses. But it also sounded clean and simply blended in when listening to music. The extension was impressive and seemed more than specified by REL. Sadly though the amp died after 6 years of service. I’ll be buying the new T7X soon and can’t wait!
I had a real T1 loved that sub
I have 15 in. full range drivers in open Baffles powered by a Decware Zen triode SET Amp. I've been using two Klipsch Synergy Sub 10 Subwoofers for the past two years. I was only using the subs for heavy bass tracks for effect , because they didn't sound tight or clean with normal bass tracks.Yesterday i removed both of the Klipsch and replaced them with a REL T/7x . I was literally shocked at the difference it made. Beautiful full mid bass and tight , fast low bass. Anything i listen to sounds extremely better. I've been thinking of this purchase for a while, but watching this video a couple of days ago convinced me to take the leap. I am totally happy with the REL.
What about actual LF extension/output? You covered overall output (REL wins) , but without knowing the source material it's difficult to tell which goes the lowest/loudest. The winner at 50hz may not be the highest at 25hz.
True- extension but will not have high SPL at those lower frequencies. Still, I love the KEF.
Sounds like the SVS is the clear winner once you factor price and the bluetooth app. Easier to set up. The fact that you can control the volume, switch between music and theater and night modes makes it a clear winner.
what is this "night mode" you speak of? I am looking into the SVS and am unaware of this yet
@@davidbowyer6840 night mode is simply reducing the volume output so that the sub is very quiet
Great review! It was very fair. I would pick the REL. Because of performance and appearance. My wife liked the REL as well. Happy Wife happy life. Keep up the great work guys.
The KEF has a built-in dynamic EQ, to make it output more bass at lower volumes. This feature cannot be turned off! This means that the KEF is incompatible with all room correction solution. The KC62 is intended only for HI FI to accompany the KEF LS50. You should buy it for an AV receiver! The SVS is the best option for an AV receiver, but you better got with a SB2000 Pro instead, better yet, two of them.
Really useful video, thank you. I've never owned an SVS or a REL. However, I'm very keen to upgrade my old B&W PV1 with one of these. My listening room is approx 25sq. metres. I was almost convinced that SVS will be a better sub but after watching your video I'm very keen now to go for a REL, instead. Thanks and, keep doing what you are doing!
You can snag a REL HT/1205 at Best Buy today for $449. You can, and should get the full 4 year warranty for $44 more. It's a great deal. I just bought one. You also have 15 days to try it.
I'd personally like the REL or the SVS as mostly i do double purpose. Music and movies both. Currently using Paradigm sub for last 8 years. Have been planning to upgrade for last 2 years.
I would choose the KC62. Smaller footprint for my smaller room, and sounds like it would be the best match to go with my bookshelfs which are very fast.
KEF has the wireless connection option for $200.
And I could be wrong, you can control the KEF with the LS50 wireless ll app. It will send bass signal all to the sub and the main speakers work less hard.
Since I ordered the LS50 wireless ll, the KC62 would be my clear choice. All the reviews seems positive.
I would go for SVS simply because of the convenience of setting things up via the app. Convenience goes a long way for me. However, I'm sure I would be thrilled to own any of these, with any one of these adding to my listening enjoyment.
Don't be lazy Jerry.
5:50 It's always funny to me how audio reviewers love to give positive credit for the physical weight of gear. Maybe I'm weird, but my ears don't hear physical weight.
But my gimpy back does....I'd like to see my orthopedist a little less frequently.
Nice breakdown guys, I think this answers a lot of questions for lots of people. You can get 2 Rythmik f12-400 for the price of one of the kef62/t7x, so unless you have a tight space you know what to do! You can also get two t5is for less than one of the kef62/t7x so thats a killer combo when you're short on space. 2 is always better than one btw.
F12 value edition for around $868 today.
I went with 2 B&W 608 subs. But that's because I got the two for $300 total, and my speakers are matching 606 s1.
That was a fun comparison. They each have their strong points. I just bought the SVS sub for music and home theater in my second house. I'm very happy with is so far but I need to get a calibrated mic to fully use the app that comes with the SVS.
I would take SVS because I already have SVS 1000 and it's within my budget LOL. But if $$$ were unlimited I would go with KEF everywhere!
Or save a little more to get 2 SVS’s
Cut to the chase. A couple of guys that don't know squat rate subs based on ridiculous criteria come up with a ...3 way tie!!! What a shock! Great to know that one measure of quality is the weight of the subs! Well done gentlemen.
I would choose the REL T7X, because of it's musicality as mentioned by Jay, and that it has both downward & forward-firing drivers.
I would choose the Rel because I already have one and I know what I'm getting. They blend seamlessly with main speakers. Their neutrik sets them apart
Which one? Also, do you do a lot of steroids? Not recommended.
@@MOAB-UT REL t7i. Nope. All natural. Workout hard..take creatine and whey protein. It's called hard work. Sitting on your couch. Not recommended.
@@ryanschipp8513 IF you are natural take it as a compliment. You do look good. Wish I had that many muscles. IF you are on the juice, just stop it. Stop it now.
@@MOAB-UT thanks for the compliment:-) I've always been active in sports and lifting weights. It's a passion of mine. I never got into drugs ever. I'm married and have two children and value my life and life with them.
Another awesome video! I thought that the KEF subwoofers would be the ones for me, but after watching this video, I am way more interested to learn more about the REL's subwoofer. You guys gave the more to think about. Thanks for the video comparison!
What did you get? KEF beats REL for music...and I own a REL 1205.
I would go Rel. Super musical and can fill a larger room than the others.
I already have the svs3000 and I'm very happy with it. I have not heard the other two yet.
Im considering this subwoofer also, how big is your room?
@@hclandscapes 15 BY 30 MORE OR LESS
I’d go with the Kef and hopefully be done thinking about subwoofers!
I bought the Totem Kin subwoofer with 150 watt amp built in. It goes down to 29 hertz and is tiny but it sounds pretty good paired to Canadian Noresco speakers from the 1960's which have German Isophon drivers. These speakers are over 50 years old, have nice veneer and still sound great driven by my Yamaha R700 receiver. Nothing has ever been done to these speakers which were bought new back in the day, they have cloth stitched on surrounds so they will never rot out like other speakers do. I doubt if any of these speakers you are testing will last as long as these Isophon drivers now known as GAUDER AKUSTIK.
I am a simple guy, I like fantasy. Therefore my favorite sub is the KEF KC62 with its magical unicorn technology 😉
I personally lean towards the KEF KC62 - I don't have a sub currently and I think it would go great with my 7 year old KEF floor standers
Yes it would. Work some overtime!
Kef is awesome but a little bit pricey. My choice is REL. Thank you guys for the comparison, this is exactly what I needed!
I like KEF KC62....Traditionally, I've been a REL fan though. I'd sure like to hear them both in person. Thanks for your review!
Great descriptive comparison. It would be the REL for me :)
I love the looks on the SVS, but what it kills for me is the gloss finish, hate the fingerprint magnet. If they made a matte finish I think it would be 100% it. But overall I like the KEF looks better, and the multiple connectivities really sell it to me.
Congrats on the video, I really liked the format!
KEF, since my speakers are KEF as well. I like the overall sound of this brand ❤️
It would probably be the SVS for me. That app is so damn convenient, plus I'd be using it more for home theater needs, so I'd probably end up getting two eventually. Great video guys!
REL as a member of a philharmonic orchestra. REL has true sound of low key string, air instruments and drums.
So do all good subs.
Excellent comparison, can’t go wrong with any of these brands.
definately KEF KC62 given the clean design and small size while maintaining the musicality and seamless intergration with speakers
Would give this post two thumbs up if I could. Excellent job, boys.
It’s obvious that rel it’s a overall rounded subwoofer musical and nice. But I purchased the svs because the price.
I would go for the Rel to provide both home theatre and musical performance
REL has no deep bass, bad for home theater.
Musicality should be *double points*... So, the KEF KC-62 for me. ;-) I have LS-50's, so also a good match.
Traditionally, I've been a REL fan though. I'd sure like to hear them both in person. Thanks for your review!
Most of the categories are subjective, so to each their own, therefore weighted average categories will be different for different users.
And REL comes from behind for the win. Shows that base specs don’t always tell the tale.
I believe all these subwoofers are much better than my current one. I'd choose KEF just for design
REL for me due to being the best balanced between price and overall performance for a 50/50 setup. Very musical but with the highest output of the 3.
Gotta go with REL. Love their subs.
Great comparison thanks. I have a T7i and I like it very much. Maybe now that the T7X is out I will find a 2nd T7i used for cheap ;-)
KEF KC62 looks amazing.
One aspect of the REL that’s unique from the KEF and SVS Is the ability to be tuned for music with the high level input and use the LFE input simultaneously.. so when watching a movie you have the low frequency effects then go straight to music and have them tuned and locked onto your speakers if you have two set up for stereo.. that alone should give the REL 4 points.
Great comparison I love the kef but I would go for the svs solely due to it being nearly half the price.
Well done. Your presentation was excellent without too much overlapping between the two of you.
Power cables! 🔌 I’m running KEF LS50 Meta on T+A AMP8 amplifier. My sub is a REL T7i. So here’s an interesting fact... I borrowed and then bought a 3m $700 Transparent Audio power cable for the REL sub, and plugged it into my Transparent Powerwave conditioner with the rest of my components. The speed, accuracy and musicality of the REL went through the roof. It just disappeared. I was shocked with the difference. Food for thought 🇿🇦
Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison. They all seem like great little subs, especially for those who have never owned a "real" subwoofer. Unless they are using servo-controlled drivers, won't they all have the same speed. Isn't speed just a function of frequency?
It's true shame you guys didn't measure these bad boys and show your viewers what extension and SPL you actually got in your rooms. Another benefit would have been some blind testing since you both could have done that together. It's been proven our brains do crazy things with audio when our eyes are engaged in the process. One was quite a bit louder you said, but at what frequency. Louder at 30hz but no extension down to 20hz? These are the types of things that could really help your viewers make decisions since this is so subjective. Anyhow. Thanks for taking the time. I want to hear and measure what that little KEF can do.
About the "speed" of a driver: yes any two drivers will reproduce (within reason) the same frequency but that's not going to take into account how fast the driver can move. The leading edges of notes, particularly in bass where there is a lot of extension, means that the driver has to move to that new frequency almost instantaneously. In most cases there also has to be some filtering inside the sub which has to happen continuously before each note is played. If this is too slow or the driver can't accelerate and decelerate quickly enough, there's an audible delay even though the driver will eventually end up playing the correct note.
Great video again! I would probably go for the Rel and some room treatment for the price of the kef.
Like the look of the REL, the size of the KEF and the price of the SVS. I would likely go with the REL for the musicality and option of in home trial.
Svs has in home trial too. 2 subs is always better than one.
I'd choose the KEF just so I could sell it to help pay for a bigger REL lol
Rel for price vs performance + musicality but all 3 look amazing!!
I would choose the REL for it's looks and dual-purpose nature. Probably have 2 of them.
I would choose the REL, given the high quality and reputation- plus it looks by far the sexiest!
I'd go with the SVS, I have a pair of their bigger models and love the App
I would go for REL because I have some limited experience with them and know the origins of the drivers.
Also, I live in Ireland and REL's are made in Wales, just across a small sea.
It's a tough choice, but probably the REL. Thanks!
Most buyers of Kef are not concerned with: ultimate spl, size of drivers, home theatre. As a company they have always been more about musical fidelity and listening experience at all volumes - as opposed to impressing friends with stats also and annoying your neighbours.
I'd choose the REL, for both its musicality and for movie watching. Aesthetically it's also very pleasing design.
Since I got my first REL, REL is just the way to go. I would have to be convince to switch for something else. Just love REL
The SVS wins this it's a great Subwoofer. Especially for price.
Great review! The REL seems like it would be best for me.
Got to roll with the REL sub. Speed and musicality is what wins me over, but i would definitely need a pair.