The way Captain America gets hulk to do what he wants is really funny, he's like that one kid in school that just wants to cause trouble and drama without being involved
In the normal comics. Cap explains how he hates that people make fun of France ....that the French never did stop fighting. The Ultimates universe is just super messed up.
Typical mark millar, ironically America would mirror that sentiment en masse with all that "freedom fries" nonsense so maybe it was actually pretty accurate
The Ultimate universe, where everyone is a massive pervert. Seriously, the only decent person here seems to be Thor, that hammer of his should have been delivering no-horny thunder bonks to people instead of fighting villains.
The Ultimates animated movies are LEAGUES better than their comic counterparts. I had actually watched the animated movies first and I was looking forward to reading the comics. Boy was I in for a massive disappointment.
Ultimate universe was written in the early 2000s GOD DAMN YOU COULD TELL. I was born in 03 but looking back at these comics made me feel both old and young
The Ultimates universe had some interesting concepts, the skrulls being the equivalent on reptilians, Thor being nonchalant about being a god and no one believing him, and Samuel L Jackson Nick Fury. But holy shit, every minute I watch or read more about it the more my brain crumples up in my skull! The Hulk and Betty, the Maximoffs, Hank Pim (well actually thats par for the course for Pim), the shitty dialogue... I am glad the Ultimates universe is not a thing anymore...
To me it's just a guilty a pleasure, it just so goofy and you can tell the writer wants this badass I'm cool cause im a hardass edgy asshole type of comic, like the boys but it comes off as dumb.
I can't blame you for hatting it cuz ultimates 2 and 3 not 1 and of course ultimatum storyline were mostly the marvel comics I read as a kid and like them as a kid I mostly read DC and hulk comics I never read marvel zombies but I literally have nostalgia for it for some reason maybe cuz the concept was neat I was at a mall saw posters and t shirts so that's probably why
The Ultimate Avengers animated movie is literally the only good interpretation of this entire CLUSTER. Cap is actual Cap and not prototype USAgent. Tony Stark is also pretty much the same but not drunk. Hulk isn't a Horngry Cannibal and Banner has interesting motivations. Ultimate Thor is Ultimate Thor. Hank Pym is still kinda an a$$hole but he's a funny a$$hole and not an abusive anus. And best of all the creepy Maximoffs aren't even there!!!
I admit I really do love the sequel, where Klieser is actually a cool villain. He isn’t just “naked guy thats strong”. Also because I like the idea of Wakanda being a shitty place to live in.
@@Otis_.why? Wakanda’s charm is that it’s a fantastical country, where the king (black panther) has to make tough decisions in order to *keep* the peace and prosperity. Which involves tough decisions
@@pqcowboychanel yes that is the point, but it’s better when your country is flawed. The council in that film act as an antagonist to Black Panther. It makes sense to have T’Challa lead a country that’s struggling. It’s interesting to have a parallel to Captain America. Where he both protects and (kinda) hates America.
Yeah it’s been recently shown to have been recreated and teased in the horrible comic, Spider-Men 2. And then there was something with the Maker bringing brainwashed versions of the Ultimates or something last year, I’m not caught up.
Read this book years ago, and for someone who was at an EMH/MCU high, this storyline was oddly amazing and INSANE, so many cringe lines, so many bad choices, and _cool_ art.
I actually really like the WW2 version of Captain Americas outfit and how bombastic they make his missions. Also how Iron Man’s armor is a combo of the very first suit and his red and gold armor.
I love seeing little comic book moments recreated in the mcu. Like banner getting thrown out a plane and hulking out. Repurposed in Thor ragnarok to great effect
Yeah, If you make everybody an asshole (some not All) then it seems like the audience won't root for these characters because everybody is a jaded, narcissistic asshole with no positive qualities to admire. If the writers used the main marvel universe characters' personalities as templates except make them more modern, then it could work. But as a whole, while the Ultimate Universe has some good ideas it just falls flat.
This is the epitomy of a guilty pleasure, that's satirical, graphic, extreme, goofy and intriguing. Like, you wonder the process. I for one appreciate this, not for the message, there is a lack of one, or characters, as they are almost unrelatable from time to time, because it it raw and perfect to reflect criticality. Sometimes it just feels like a darkside, that despite all is very human, and makes you wonder how are you in comparison with these characters, if you want to be different is probably because you see how is that their lives are not so glorious, and that's something. Also, Ultimate Spiderman comes from this, so, I prefer this existing.
I enjoy the two Ultimate Avengers movies. I read three titles in the line. Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men, and Ultimate Fantastic Four. Those were enough for me.
Janet: victim of abuse Steve: saves her and treats her to a nice dance as a friend Nick Fury: Blondie gonna get it! Good God 😤😬😒 Dear lord what BS way of ending a terrible book. I heard of the Ultimates being bad, I didn't think it was this awful. Also the Avengers doing fan castings of themselves was meta as hell, considering Samuel Jackson now plays Nick Fury.
I think Mark Millar is very good at plotting. I think his work on the Ultimate X-Men is quite brilliant, and the second story arc is quite frankly among my favorite comic stories ever, period. His concepts and character ideas often are also quite good (not always; horny, cannibalistic Hulk will always be bad). But sometimes he goes so overboard with his edginess and disdain for the corny and sincere era of Marvel Comics from the 60s, it becomes unintentionally hilarious.
The Ultimate universe was potentially a good idea, a realistic Marvel Universe but I think it didn’t end up sticking because it went in too many different directions without proper focus. Having said that I wouldn’t mind some Ultimates Marvel Legends beyond Miles Morales.
I played ultimate Spider-Man on the ps2 and saw the two animated when I like 10 or 9 I dunno, and that was my introduction into the ultimate universe mind you I knew nothing of the multiverse and not a lot of superheroes at the time but man these comics mortified me as a kid
Honestly I don't know if it's just me but I hate how hank pym is sometimes characterised as a wife abuser like I don't think that's a good character I'd rather have what marvels earth mightiest hero's did where he's not abusive
Ok as stupid as this is i kinda love the whole Captain America and hulk scene because the idea of the hulk being offended at being called a sissy is hilarious
I feel like The Ultimates is the perfect answer to the question: "what if Zack Snyder or Michael Bay had directed the first Avengers movie without any of the characters solo movies had been made before and with Hank Pym and Wasp on the team?"
Just wanna point out the ultimate universe has skrulls but never got to use them lol also betty becomes she hulk to LITERALLY FUCK BANNER/HULK because they are now one person/entity
Hey Smokey, You plan on doing Batman Long Halloween for your Halloween special this year? That be awsome. And if not Long Halloween do Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum.
I would like to change the surrender scene with a different line if I wrote the ultimates. cap would say surrender but the latter on my forehead stands for France line I would and have him say " I will never surrender! no matter the cost! I will stand and fight until the battle is over!
Also the ultimate marvel universe did give us miles Morales Spider-Man and plus ultimate Spider-woman so that's some good news from the ultimate marvel universe. :)
On the subject of Captain America, it’s nice to see Bucky having a happy ending. And while captain America’s criticism of France during WWII is unnecessary, at least modern day France is kinda weird. It’s not like he criticized Poland or Canada.
ultimate Spider-Man is great, ultimate Thor is interesting, the ultimates is entretaining and the rest is bettewen bad and so weird and edgy it becomes entretaining
The way Captain America gets hulk to do what he wants is really funny, he's like that one kid in school that just wants to cause trouble and drama without being involved
It's shockingly hard to find the specifics of the ultimate universe online. As dumb as it is it's fascinating.
Fascinating in the fact that's it's similar to examining a fox with rabies aimlessly plunder around it's environment.
Hey everything that had nothing to do with the avengers was pretty good
im just wishing he'd do vol 4 of ultimate spiderman
In the normal comics. Cap explains how he hates that people make fun of France ....that the French never did stop fighting. The Ultimates universe is just super messed up.
Yeah, except a lot of the French never stopped fighting FOR Hitler…
Or it's fiction and you're fragile.
@@johnmeehan7884 As we know, only TRUE MEN understand the brilliance behind lines like
"HULK NOT SISSY BOY
HULK STRAIGHT".
Typical mark millar, ironically America would mirror that sentiment en masse with all that "freedom fries" nonsense so maybe it was actually pretty accurate
@@johnmeehan7884nah it’s just the mark millar fell off after the dark knight returns and has put out a lot of slop.
The Ultimate universe, where everyone is a massive pervert.
Seriously, the only decent person here seems to be Thor, that hammer of his should have been delivering no-horny thunder bonks to people instead of fighting villains.
The animated movies definitely made this universe more tolerable.
The Ultimates animated movies are LEAGUES better than their comic counterparts.
I had actually watched the animated movies first and I was looking forward to reading the comics.
Boy was I in for a massive disappointment.
I still didn't like them though...
@@infinityalbi9840tbh It’s kinda sad how crappy the writing is considering the art style being pretty damn good
@@meep9231 yeah, I can agree with that
They were even more tolerable written by Jeff loeb, and the antagonists for Batman and Superman in that comic where they were called “The Maximums”.
Betty is an actual sociopath
Is it me, or the cringe % is ridicilously high when it comes to hulk lines and dialogue specifically?
Ultimate universe was written in the early 2000s GOD DAMN YOU COULD TELL. I was born in 03 but looking back at these comics made me feel both old and young
Not just Hulk. Betty’s a freak😂
Hulk straight. You fragile.
Might I say, I really think your voices for Ultimate Captain America and Ultimate Hulk were really good.
The only good thing in the ultimate universe universe is SPIDERMAN
What about the maker aka ultimate reed richards
@@TevyaSmolka the maker is just a crybaby bitchboy
And the movies.
@David Alexander thor is alright
I don't...I don't like any of it.
14:27 that’s line perfect for John walker , not Steve Rogers
Classic Cap meme
#notmycaptainamerica
God bless good ol’ John Walker
This is what happens when you get Edgy Scottish man in his 30s write for a through-and-through American hero
Its ultimate cap. Not 6161 cap. Two different types of. Characters
The Ultimates universe had some interesting concepts, the skrulls being the equivalent on reptilians, Thor being nonchalant about being a god and no one believing him, and Samuel L Jackson Nick Fury. But holy shit, every minute I watch or read more about it the more my brain crumples up in my skull! The Hulk and Betty, the Maximoffs, Hank Pim (well actually thats par for the course for Pim), the shitty dialogue... I am glad the Ultimates universe is not a thing anymore...
To me it's just a guilty a pleasure, it just so goofy and you can tell the writer wants this badass I'm cool cause im a hardass edgy asshole type of comic, like the boys but it comes off as dumb.
@@julianvalencia9351 yeah the ultamates is sorta my guilty pleasure
That's not Nick Fury. That's just Samuel L. Jackson as director of SHIELD, has little to nothing to do with the real Nick Fury.
Guess who’s back, back again. 1610 back, tell your friend
Well the TRUTH is that without the Ultimate universe, all modern marvel movies and cartoons would not be as we know them.
Boy, this is the first time I've ever seen this video before!
Uh huh, sure.
Lol 😂
Yes finally 💯
@@irvingramirez2335 indeed
I can't blame you for hatting it cuz ultimates 2 and 3 not 1 and of course ultimatum storyline were mostly the marvel comics I read as a kid and like them as a kid I mostly read DC and hulk comics I never read marvel zombies but I literally have nostalgia for it for some reason maybe cuz the concept was neat I was at a mall saw posters and t shirts so that's probably why
"Hulk not sissy boy! Hulk straight" has got to be the funniest thing I've ever heard from the Hulk XD
The Ultimate Avengers animated movie is literally the only good interpretation of this entire CLUSTER.
Cap is actual Cap and not prototype USAgent.
Tony Stark is also pretty much the same but not drunk.
Hulk isn't a Horngry Cannibal and Banner has interesting motivations.
Ultimate Thor is Ultimate Thor.
Hank Pym is still kinda an a$$hole but he's a funny a$$hole and not an abusive anus.
And best of all the creepy Maximoffs aren't even there!!!
I admit I really do love the sequel, where Klieser is actually a cool villain. He isn’t just “naked guy thats strong”. Also because I like the idea of Wakanda being a shitty place to live in.
Well there’s the MCU. Mostly Phase 1, especially The Avengers film in 2012. That’s another good interpretation of this edgy fun mess.
@@Otis_.why? Wakanda’s charm is that it’s a fantastical country, where the king (black panther) has to make tough decisions in order to *keep* the peace and prosperity. Which involves tough decisions
@@pqcowboychanel yes that is the point, but it’s better when your country is flawed. The council in that film act as an antagonist to Black Panther. It makes sense to have T’Challa lead a country that’s struggling. It’s interesting to have a parallel to Captain America. Where he both protects and (kinda) hates America.
Also, while Hank and Janet in these movies do argue a few times, it’s clear that they still genuinely love each other
Back to 2000’s time capsule that is the Ultimate Universe!
Comixproviderftw02 Renner when wasp mutated and grew her hair out
That sudden Neutral Milk Hotel break is my favourite part of this whole thing
Jesus, Marc Millar sure has a hardon for cannibalism doesn't he?
Part of me wants a new Ultimate Marvel universe but I feel like the Ultimate universe is to tainted for rebooting
We did technically get it...its called the MCU😂😂
Thought they did reboot it recently.
Yeah it’s been recently shown to have been recreated and teased in the horrible comic, Spider-Men 2. And then there was something with the Maker bringing brainwashed versions of the Ultimates or something last year, I’m not caught up.
I’d like to see the Ultimate universe version of Kamala Khan
Oh don't worry, the Ultimate universe is still alive... somehow...
The ultimate avengers cartoon introduced me to the avengers so these comic books for me are bringing in nostalgia
Read this book years ago, and for someone who was at an EMH/MCU high, this storyline was oddly amazing and INSANE, so many cringe lines, so many bad choices, and _cool_ art.
Wasp is the only somewhat redeemable character in these books. And she gets fucking eaten by Blob.
I actually really like the WW2 version of Captain Americas outfit and how bombastic they make his missions. Also how Iron Man’s armor is a combo of the very first suit and his red and gold armor.
I love seeing little comic book moments recreated in the mcu. Like banner getting thrown out a plane and hulking out. Repurposed in Thor ragnarok to great effect
First repurposed in *The Incredible Hulk*
Good to know I'm not the only one who has issues with the Ultimate universe. I hate how everyone is an asshole. That's not how it's supposed to work!
Yeah, If you make everybody an asshole (some not All) then it seems like the audience won't root for these characters because everybody is a jaded, narcissistic asshole with no positive qualities to admire. If the writers used the main marvel universe characters' personalities as templates except make them more modern, then it could work. But as a whole, while the Ultimate Universe has some good ideas it just falls flat.
@@ashtonchane6126 well the ultimate avengers aminted films are my first exposure to avengers in genreal
@@ashtonchane6126 you mean like iron man? Iron man is one of the good people in ultimates
@@matheusrubimdepaoli5409 Yup.
@@ashtonchane6126 the ultimates did not deserve ultimate iron man, he is actually a good person
Bruh Betty is beyond down bad
This is the epitomy of a guilty pleasure, that's satirical, graphic, extreme, goofy and intriguing. Like, you wonder the process. I for one appreciate this, not for the message, there is a lack of one, or characters, as they are almost unrelatable from time to time, because it it raw and perfect to reflect criticality. Sometimes it just feels like a darkside, that despite all is very human, and makes you wonder how are you in comparison with these characters, if you want to be different is probably because you see how is that their lives are not so glorious, and that's something. Also, Ultimate Spiderman comes from this, so, I prefer this existing.
the ultimate marvel universe did give us at least the maker aka ultimate reed richards
Damn I forgot he’s literally one of my fav newer characters he fits 616 perfect
@@aliteralchad7128 indeed
"Hulk Straight" is peak comedy
Hulk is the funniest thing in the comic
Hulk not funniest thing in the comic
Hulk strait
@@jackcouch8322 god I hate that comic lol
He should honestly become a meme
I think the ultimates was supposed to be a satire of the industrial military complex. Hence the comical lines and edgelord plot.
There are like, 3 things good about the ultimate universe
1. Both ultimate spider-men
2. Iron man's suit
3. Nick fury
What about James Hudson Jr?
@@heavy5013 what about giant man and wasps suits
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 What about them?
The maker?
@@zacharyjochumsen9677Those are horrible tho
17:30 My God Now That Was A Very Awesome Voice For Ultimate Thor Right There.
I enjoy the two Ultimate Avengers movies. I read three titles in the line. Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men, and Ultimate Fantastic Four. Those were enough for me.
ok less be honest steve violating giant man is so cool
Janet: victim of abuse
Steve: saves her and treats her to a nice dance as a friend
Nick Fury: Blondie gonna get it!
Good God 😤😬😒
Dear lord what BS way of ending a terrible book. I heard of the Ultimates being bad, I didn't think it was this awful. Also the Avengers doing fan castings of themselves was meta as hell, considering Samuel Jackson now plays Nick Fury.
I think Mark Millar is very good at plotting. I think his work on the Ultimate X-Men is quite brilliant, and the second story arc is quite frankly among my favorite comic stories ever, period. His concepts and character ideas often are also quite good (not always; horny, cannibalistic Hulk will always be bad). But sometimes he goes so overboard with his edginess and disdain for the corny and sincere era of Marvel Comics from the 60s, it becomes unintentionally hilarious.
Marvel's Avengers written by Michael Bay... wait it's not?
HOLY SHIT
The Ultimate universe was potentially a good idea, a realistic Marvel Universe but I think it didn’t end up sticking because it went in too many different directions without proper focus. Having said that I wouldn’t mind some Ultimates Marvel Legends beyond Miles Morales.
Hey what's up man my name is Everett and I'm completely blind and Yeah we actually got an ultimate Captain America in 2023
I played ultimate Spider-Man on the ps2 and saw the two animated when I like 10 or 9 I dunno, and that was my introduction into the ultimate universe mind you I knew nothing of the multiverse and not a lot of superheroes at the time but man these comics mortified me as a kid
I recently read a terrible venom book from the 90s called Venom License to kill and I think it would make for a fun video
😩 I have that book from my childhood
I was looking up The Ultimates and seconds before I clicked anything I got this notification.
This guy deserves more attention
Speaking of ultimate marvel universe it’s making a comeback
OH BOI ITS HAPPENING
I really really really hate what marvel did to Hank Pym in the Ultimate universe. I hate it so much.
He is a wife beater in the original too
Your narrative is very nice, better than i read the comic myself, highlighting all the humours
Ultimate Betty Ross is for the streets
10:23 that dude looks like Tom Hiddleston
6:00 - 6:50
*Thats honestly the best part of the video/story*
Do more Ultimates please! And then Ultimatum and Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Fantastic Four the way you reviews these books are hilarious
It seems like in the ultimate universes everyone is a twat excepting Peter, Thor and tony
Pretty much
@@SmokeysVideos yup
The thing and Susan storm were also the few that was cool.
Now this is round two.
4:42 "it's techno-organic"
Its like Twitter wrote a book. How miserable.
Honestly I don't know if it's just me but I hate how hank pym is sometimes characterised as a wife abuser like I don't think that's a good character I'd rather have what marvels earth mightiest hero's did where he's not abusive
That worked well he was obsessed with his work was and didn't approve of the avengers
Oh, man, I've missed these videos.
We back in 1610 baby
7:45 I literally blew up screaming in joy when I heard Holland, 1945. ITAOTS is one of my favorite albums of all time!
Can't wait for Ultimates 2 to be reviewed in 2024
7:42
People who don't know: 🤔
People who know: 🤢
I don’t know, I kinda like bully captain America. It’s dumb but kinda funny.
“Surrender? Surrender?! You think this letter on my head stands for FRANCE?!” No doubt my favourite line in Marvel
Ok as stupid as this is i kinda love the whole Captain America and hulk scene because the idea of the hulk being offended at being called a sissy is hilarious
I just recently found your channel. These slightly abridged retellings of comic book stories are great.
I feel like The Ultimates is the perfect answer to the question: "what if Zack Snyder or Michael Bay had directed the first Avengers movie without any of the characters solo movies had been made before and with Hank Pym and Wasp on the team?"
14:24-Best part of the whole review.
i do find cap manipulating hulk into destroying the chaturti fun. I would have liked the dialoug to be a little less cringy.
I love the ultimate universe but it does have its flaws
6:27: Hahaha, grower. I guess that makes Reed Richards a shower.
7:47 I laughed out loud at the music transition.
Man I really like this channel and I want it to be big, you gotta clickbait or sum man, this is a gold mine
I loved your Ultimate Spider Man series... CAN YOU PLZ BRING THAT BACK 🙏😭
I know right? He's supposed to do an Ultimate Spider-Man video every 21 videos. And we're WAAAAAY past 21
This series assassinated the character's identities for shock value. I see why people hated it. Cannibal Hulk? Maximof incest? Other shit?
Then they just assassinated the characters themselves...
Just wanna point out the ultimate universe has skrulls but never got to use them lol also betty becomes she hulk to LITERALLY FUCK BANNER/HULK because they are now one person/entity
3:55 my cousins used to love watching that show.
This is exactly what I wanted. Tell us the story.
If it makes you say wtf or this is good you say that too as you go along
Omg thanks for uploading new content
".....and their off putting old faces." >.
Please continue the ultimates
Hey Smokey, You plan on doing Batman Long Halloween for your Halloween special this year? That be awsome. And if not Long Halloween do Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum.
Perfect panel and timing for that fart joke lol
I would like to change the surrender scene with a different line if I wrote the ultimates. cap would say surrender but the latter on my forehead stands for France line I would and have him say " I will never surrender! no matter the cost! I will stand and fight until the battle is over!
You'd have him quote Winston Churchill? That's worse than the original line...
@@wayfaringstranger8430 I did? I didn't realized that
Oh shit another ergo proxy fan
@@getuliogabriel3522 I see you have a Re-l profile picture as well!
I honestly think Adult Swim produced the Ultimate Avengers as a comedy parody.
Awesome 👏 awesome 👏
Hahahaha I love these! Who knew marvel ultimates could be as hilariously awful as all star batman and robin? That's it I'm collecting these
Starring:
Crazy Steve as Hank Pym
Bonkers Betty as... well... Betty Ross...
So hydra was mixed with the skrulls
you don't understand how happy it makes me to see this notification
Also the ultimate marvel universe did give us miles Morales Spider-Man and plus ultimate Spider-woman so that's some good news from the ultimate marvel universe. :)
On the subject of Captain America, it’s nice to see Bucky having a happy ending.
And while captain America’s criticism of France during WWII is unnecessary, at least modern day France is kinda weird. It’s not like he criticized Poland or Canada.
Zack Snyder's Avengers
HULK STRAIGHT!
Its shocking how terrible the writing is for such a beautiful book. Kinda like DC New 52.
11:14 Jay Z?? Lol
Soooooo... did Erwin Smith grew back his arm just to beat a titan bare handed? Sigma
Hulk straight!
I want more cuz it’s stupid funny
Betty Ross was a “FREAK” in this comic 😟
Wait you guys hate this? I fucking love this, especially how fucking weird and twisted it is LOL
I like Thor in this series
ultimate Spider-Man is great, ultimate Thor is interesting, the ultimates is entretaining and the rest is bettewen bad and so weird and edgy it becomes entretaining