The Mace is so overpowered......!
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- Minecraft's newest weapon, the Mace!
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the market gardener is very cool
Trolldier loadout is finally in Minecraft
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Yes
Mace and wind charges?
The TF2 update
Does market garden have another meaning that just the WWII paradrop operation in the netherlands? Cause at first it made sense since ur attack from the sky, but many people are saying it as well as "Trolldier" that i think there something more. Surley no all these people are simply referencing operation market garden
Oh hell nah they’re putting soldier tf2 in Minecraft
Ha
Gardening Time
@@user-vz3mx2mw3rI love gardening, it's my only exercise as a 94 year old
@user-vz3mx2mw3r Gardening is my only exercise, it's great for a 94 year old
Minecraft got a tf2 update before tf2
Imagine the dragon hits you up like 200 blocks during an end fight while it's perched and you pull out this thing on the descent
Dragon: Oh sh
Achievement unlocked:return to sender
Well they are dead
behooooold!!
That's what i imagined the moment i saw it
3:16 Oh nice, a new mlg!
Translation: Oh nice, a new Major League Gaming!
Lol
@@MrMelonsz I thought mlg stood for most legendary gamer, doesnt it?
I’m pretty sure it means major league gaming
4:32 "it is a 2D weapon which is consistent with every other weapon/tool in the game"
*trident crying in the corner*
Trident is 2d
@@YoussefAhmed-jd5zulike no
@@seaofanimus oh, thats what he meant.
The mace should be like the trident and spyglass 2D in the inventory and 3D when held
The mace looks weird in 2D as it has shading to make it look 3D but they didn't go the whole way, and on top of that it's shown from a weird angle with the top not visible
Trident is 1x1xy (y=pixels used for the art) pixel when held, consistent with every tool in the game.
its kind of fascinating how the took the idea of bucket clutching and turned it into a risky but very rewarding combat option
very dandy
Yeah, it kinda feels like mojang appreciates it's community enough to make cool stuff again.
seems like it considering how many farms still work
Can be a cool pvp option, but people will abuse it alot in survival lol
Honestly doesn't deem easy to abuse at all but we can see apparently @Tiagocf2
It should be modeled like the trident; 2d sprite but 3d sprite when held in your hand
Another thing is that it should look like the maces from Minecraft dungeons
minecraft Dungeons is the best minecraft spin off its so good
They really loved the trolldier playstyle so much they made the market gardener a weapon, can't wait for the mantreads next
Watch as how Mojang proceeds to cap the damage to like 40 and the entire community gets mad
that's a VERY reasonable number and it would still leave the weapon actually practical to use. If they implemented that I wouldn't be mad. (Although maybe the damage should be capped at 50)
I predict that they're going to add a cap, but also add unique enchantments/interactions to make up for some of the "cool" factor lost by one-shotting bosses.
Or at least I hope they do that to mitigate community outrage.
@@dat_fast_boi I would gladly exchange one shotting bosses for cool enchantments.
It's gonna happen, I severely doubt Mojang will keep this as is. They'll probably do it under the veil of "balance" or "too overpowered" lol.
@@AtomicRobloxProductions I mean, 5000 damage? Even with the caveat of needing to block clutch at like 100 blocks or something, being able to one-shot all the bosses might be a bit overtuned.
new minecraft meta of jumping off cliffs to do sun shattering amounts of damage to your friends horse
gonna need to turn that bastard into glue.
@@crimumb4839 the way my jaw dropped when reading this...
But imagine the cinematic shots you could get- it'd be so dramatic with shaders and slow-mo!
max0r reference
GoodTimesWithScar moment
when steve crafts the mace he uses pushes a bit too hard and flattens the heavy core with his incredible strength
spork
The plot twist is that it's not that the mace has power itself, but the mace just allows Steve to use more of his true strength in combat
@EEE-1409 just need summon lightning command on hits though lol
@@EEE-1409 ironically, yes, a mace depends on your overhead swinging power
@@Wepawnet That is indeed true. On second thought, it all makes complete sense. The faster Steve is falling, the more kinetic energy can go into the mace, so it will deal more damage. I imagine it should be true for all weapons, but I can see why it's not. Most other weapons are based on penetrative capability, rather than pure swinging power.
4:37 excluding the trident (you've heard this about a hundred times by now).
4:36 the trident has left the chat
Trident is 1 pixel thick which is the same as every other weapon it just scales up in your hand
thats still a 2d model lol
@@ExceededTag6048 every other model is an extruded version of the item icon, the trident has its own custom idek when in the hand and thrown, similar to the arrow
@@globalwyrm2334 yeah thats what i meant
trident is only technically 3D because it's a projectile.
2D axes and swords make sense cuz they are thin weapons meant for slicing things. The mace is about as blunt as it gets.
Gotta disagree. Minecraft has lots of items like that (apples etc) We'll get completely used to the look
We'll get used to the mace's look. The trident was also 3D.
@@metawarp7446 Apples are still tiny tho. The mace is a block like thing on a rod. Blocks are 3D.
@@metawarp7446 I disagree with you. Look at the different types of boats and minecarts. Look at the thrown trident and the shot arrows. Minecraft renders these items as entities so they may better represent what they are supposed to be.
The mace in its current state looks like a thick war-axe. When I first saw the mace trailer, I didn't understand the texture was supposed to represent the shading on a heavy core. I assumed it was crafted with two different materials. Now that I have watched this video and learned what a heavy core is, I understand the mace is supposed to be a heavy core on a stick.
Anyway, I am sure Mojang is gonna keep the Mace texture as is. People like myself who prefer the 3D render can download a mod.
@@metawarp7446 i think it would look better if it was a model tho (but I hope Mojang can make a better one than the one phoenix did lmao)
This is gonna go crazy with ripetide III trident in rain/water.
3:44 or that
a way to balance it is to make the damage scaling a curve and give diminished returns after a certain height
Indeed! This is as simple as taking the sqrt of whatever value is currently used, though you can choose a different number that isn't two to get a better curve.
I see this item kinda as a go-big-or-go-home for Moyang, either it will fit right in as a great, creative edition to the game, or be f***ing over powered
I bet it'll eventually get nerfed after some updates.
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ngl i hope they don't nerf so much the mace, would be fun to use
tbh, not being able to enchant is a huge nerf tho-
They need to cap the damage probably
tbh considering if you miss you take a ton of fall damage, and it only has 250 durability and cant be enchanted at all + how rare it is it seems well worth its value
Yes you can anvil repair it but you can only do that so many times
im gonna bet against the crowd and say it's gonna be severely underpowered. the 1.9 combat system heavily favors defensive playstyles, and big aggressive setplay like trying to rocket jump into your enemy is gonna net you either a shield counter or end crystal/respawn anchor to your face.
And it was at that moment- I realized that trial chamber boxes were just loot boxes 1:48.
man a 2.2% chance is really low tho
Then again, every naturally generated minecraft chest is. Raiding dessert temples is just opening a bundle of lootboxes.
Then again you don’t spend money on it, at least in vanilla
Terraria dungeon chests
@@maxwell6881 yea but those you can just open and scan for with nbt data. This is actual loot chest
4:56 you should put spikes on it
yeah, and have them match with the breeze rod
maybe that’s what the holes on each side of the heavy core are for
5:15 no wither star?
entity loot is off i think
the trident is a 2d texture in your inventory but when held uses a unique 3d model which I feel is how the mace should also work
Nah, both should be 2d, only when the trident is launched i think it should be 3d it breaks away from every other tool in the game
@@n9it that would look ridiculous
i mean, the sword, pickaxe, axe, hoe and shovel are all 2d both in the inventory and in hand
@@Cibraste I feel like it's neat for special weapons like the trident and mace to be 3d
plus they have lots of 3d weapons in Minecraft Dungeons and I think it looks great there
@@Cibraste every item is 3D tho, it have 1 pixel depth, if it really 2D it would be flat (check it yourself if you don't believe me)
I really like the item texture in the inventory, so they should keep that, but like the trident the hold model should absolutely be made 3D
I think both shoule be 2D ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have mixed feelings about the 2d texture. Whilst it does look very cool it seems a bit too complex, like it has come out of dungeons instead of the main game. Just my take though
the trident is only technically 3d cuz it's a projectile, but when hold it's only 1 pixel thick like a sword so theoretically it's 2d
@@HolyCrossed if it has any thickness it is 3d, that's how dimensions work
gives me hightower flashbacks
Just soldiers flying around like flies
There needs to be like a shock enchantment allowing the mace to do damage to mobs around the target like a shock effect, like sweeping edge but it goes damage more and in a 360 degree around the target.
Or even a stun enchantment that does the same thing but stun targets around the hit mob.
PVP is terrifying now, imagine getting jumpscared by a death screen with no warning then all your stuff was stolen.
They should make the dmg multiplier a little lower and only make you not take fall damage if you use it with a wind charge first
Trolldier is real.
To be fair, PVP is not really a main focus I feel like, also it's really hard to get a considerable height advantage unless you're surprising your opponent, at which point a sharp 5 axe crit will also give you a considerable advantage. If your opponent sees you coming at all its very easy to move out of the way considering while falling it's really hard to hit something as "small" as a moving player
Welcome to Dustbowl.
look up, dont stand still, easy counter
So glad they added rocket jumping from the charges and now market gardening with the mace
SCREAMIN’ EAGLES!
And even a rocket loaded crossbow is close enough to a rocket launcher
As soon as I saw wind charges I knew people would go market gardening. I was not prepared for them to literally make the market gardener.
@@aidansroadams5328Blast res boots as the gunboats
😂😂😂
Team Fortress 2 is in Minecraft 😂😂😂
Flying downward with elytra causes the damage boost to be applied
I think minimum you have to fly downward at an of 15 degrees from the horizon via my tests, i don’t know what the minimum flight speed needed is but there seems to be one
I turned on subtitles to check for the “mace smashes” text
The damage from the smash seems to scale exactly based off the starting Y level of the flight and at what Y level you attack at
Also you can combine the wind charge boost with the mace for extra damage
Speedrunners are going to go crazy with the mace, imagine one-shotting the enderdragon
Yes
They already do that with a bow tho sometimes
they already do that tho using bows
If vault loot is set on game seed, then yes, gotta be a seed out there where you spawn with a diamond sword right next to you to get the key easily, and a vault nearby, and a stronghold peeking in to the room. Otherwise? No
who th is gonna get a mace in a speedrun😭😭
I think they should treat mace like trident - 2d in inventory, 3d in hand
If the mace was more like other weapons (can be crafted from wood, stone etc.) it would make sense to keep it flat for sake of consistency.
I may be in favor of 3D though since since trident got that treatment.
Yeah the 2d weapons look alright, since they have 1 pixel depth, a sword looks like a sword and so on, but the mace, I hate how it looks, doesn't feel I'm holding a mace
The Trident only got the 3d treatment because it is a projectile
That's true, but I can see other weapons being 3D anyway if they don't group well with the standard tools.
@@dekokiri9961 well what about spyglass? 2D in inventory, 3D in hand. My point still stands
I feel like a slight pause/slow effect mid air WHEN you land the shot could make the shot feel way heavier, and it also tops off the no fall damage with a cherry.
1:50
YAAAY! We finally got gambling in minecraft!! Time for some gacha!! 🎉
NOOOOOOOOO GONNA GET BAD LIKE GENSHIN
Steve finally learned how to put a heavy rock on a stick.
Shovel
@@makar51gaming83
No, that's a concave rock.
Toootally different
@@antitheist3206I didn't specify which one
There could be iron -gold- Diamond and or netherite. Gems are effectively rocks.
@@makar51gaming83
Shovels are concave, regardless of the material being used.
That's what makes it a shovel and not a mace, a mace just has to be hard.
4:49 Phoenix sc chan??? you gotta send that to me right now
urethrixSC chan???? 😳😳😳
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@@Trafficallity woopsie daisy!!! 🤪🤪😜
I did testing the damage calcuation is represented by this equation i made a few days ago [(Blocks fallen-1)*5]+7 and ive tested this it seems to be spot on the -1 is because the if you crit something it does the same about of damage as a diamond sword crit 10.5 instead of 12 if it was *5 so you need to subtract 1 first
Oh my god i finnaly found this channel again havent watched a video scince 4 years ago. Theres so much to cach up on
Yo! They NEED to make an advancement for the Mace for dealing a killing blow from a height that would be fatal,and it should be called
"If they came to hear me beg"
Which is not only a Reference to Halo 2 (Microsoft IP) but it's also an achievement from Halo Reach by doing the exact same thing.
Yes!
Or “YELLING PHANTOMS” as a Tf2 reference as well… THATS WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN COMPARING THIS THING TO
@@BlackdragonTheShadow gardening at the market could also be a good ame, i think
"Wind Charge Waltz" - Kill an enemy using a wind-charge boosted Mace hit.
@@theonejackal89 You were good, son. Real good. Maybe even the best.
Ender Dragon, fights be like, please hit me
People already hope for that, for speed runs anyway with bow 1 shots
the minigame potential for popular servers is incredible with this
3:22 dont say it
totally 250 man
bro he said it was multiplied by 10 if you divide by 5 you get the exact calculations
3:49 [Target Acquired]
lol
Garden
1:29 oooh very cool!
the drip is real
@@Happy_doggo fax
Looks Roman
should be consistend with the trident, 2d sprite but 3d when you have it in your hand. Would be cool to have this be a thing of the alternative weapons in the game
Trident is still only 1 pixel wide, so no more 3d in terms of visuals than any other tool.
0:01 the mace model💀
honestly i think they should give maces the same treatment they gave to tridents, they have a 2d texture in your inventory but they also have a 3d model when you hold it
It should indeed be 3D, like the Trident which is also considered a "special" tool
Also fits with the Heavy Core ofc
The trident is only 3d becuse it's a throwing weapon, just like arrows
@@stefperb9531 And not only is it still only 1 pixel thick, just like every other item, but the trident looking like it does is still an odd choice that wasn't necessary at all.
You used to be able to change the 3D model for the trident (it's been bugged for almost a decade if i recall correctly), and it was entirely possible to give it a model that looked exactly in line with other items.
@@stefperb9531 But it's still considered more of a special weapon, so it'd fit more
@@bucketttz It wouldn't as the texture for every other weapon and tool is 1 pixel wide. The only real exception is the spyglass which is 2pixels wide. Having only 1 tool be more than that would and does look goofy.
@@myrkgard2034 Well it would fit better to be 3D though, the Trident and Spyglass are 3D as they're rare/special tools so they're not meant to fit in with the others
your subreddit is #1! literally
Idk why but this feels like a modpack you’d see an smp on
"Are you Phoenix SC, the God of Maces?" - Notch
Lol
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture_ k
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture_okay 👍
Are you PhoenixSC because you are the god of maces or are you the god of maces because you are PhoenixSC?
"or are you the God of Maces because you're Pheonix SC?"
3:54 POV kamikaze plane:
4:20 every genshin player rn : "KAZUHA"
Xiao
It would be so cool if they added mace specific enchants to the game like maybe an enchant that scales the knock back area
Love the 3D model.
Quick idea with the mace. Mace typically have like protrusions from it. Would be cool to use prismarine shards, or echo charges, or amethyst or quartz and "upgrade" the mace with different spikes within its 4 sides and the smithing table.
Would also love if you could charge like the trident, and use a wind charge, allow for a unique attack of sorts.
Love the concept of the mace because it provides a new direction for weapon creation outside of the standard progression model.
/mini-concept
Imagine an "end hammer" weapon that uses Shulker shells, end rods and an eye of ender in the center. It could be charged and allow for you to teleport "dash" forward without taking damage at the cost of a big cool down. Perhaps it could use enderpearls
Advanced magic weaponry with unique play sets.
That’s sounds cool but I’d be surprised if they did that… would be a good mod tho
See, i really like that idea, but the problem is that its actually cool lol
Yeah mojang would never do something that cool
Warden got BONKED
"How does that taste? Like crap? BONK"
Now it's time to see the one shot every mob speedrun
You should be able to right click while holding it to use a breeze charge out of your inventory to make it easier to go into the air
3D looks soooo much better like the trident.
Isn't the java trident 2d in java? Or did they change it? But yeah, agree, it looks better 3d
@@MrBrineplays_the trident is 3d in hand, I think they should do the same thing for the mace, keep it 2d in the inventory but make it 3d in the hand
Oh..so I’m never gonna get one
@@PicronLeVrai I think it is '2D' Like the other items since it is only 1 pixel wide, but because it is so thin it looks 3D. might be wrong tho
I dont like the 3d version of the mace, it just fucks with the consistency
3:03 market garden from tf2 be like:
maybe the mace could use a nerf then have different enchantments that give it its abilities, like negating fall damage
i think a 3d model is a must (like the trident), but i can also feel the need for new swinging, attacking and falling animations for the mace
A few things: Even if they nurf the “mace” to hell and back, ill be okay.
However, the heavy core has holes on the side of it, why? I doubt Mojang would do it, but could you imagine if you could put items into the “mace” holes and customize it further? Dripstone Mace, does more damage. Lightning Rod Mace, summons lightning during thunderstorms. Just something to think about.
Shrapnel mace, bigger AOE
OMG YES combine it with an anvil!!!! that can be the Mace's "enchants"
combine it with the dragon egg for a "poison" dragon breath AOE, that hurts everyone in it except for the user. give the egg a use lol@@JackIves
Wind Charge Mace, punt your target into next week.
@@theapexsurvivor9538 or a wind charge mace could launch you back up in the air so you can chain attacks together without touching the ground
4:11 pigsort
edit: I did not see this coming №
Lol
i think that the 3d model for the mace fits, it should be kinda like the trident where in hand the item is 3d, and in your inventory it should have a 2d sprite
Mace really needs to have a damage cap as terminal velocity is a thing.
i honestly think the mace should have more functionality especially when its made wirh an item called the "Heavy Core". like that's so badass! maybe you can infuse the heavy core with something before crafting the mace! an anvil would make it do what it currently does, blaze powder would make it shoot a fireball by right clicking, redstone would make it strike with more damage, etc etc!
No
Yes
4:20 can’t believe they added Xiao gameplay to Minecraft
Minecraft trolldier build
Mace + wind charge and knockback bow for speed boost
0:39 nice going
We got market garden in Minecraft, let's goo!
I have an Idea for the Mace. What if the Mace gave you a double jump well using it. Like say for example if you want get as much damage as possible from fighting someone, then you could jump off something (like an high place) and the at the same time, you could activate the mace's second ability to increase your jump bye a little bit. Giving you a double jump to get as much damage in on someone as possible in a PVP scenario.
i think that the rod on the bottom of it should be a 2d stick type handle and the hammer bit should be like 3 pixels wide with the same texture as the default one
1:15 Gaster? The royal scientist one?
HELLO
IM WINGS
GASTER
THE RO
YAL SCIENTIS
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oh brother can't wait for those "insane clutch videos" that will come with the mace.
Imagine the enderdragon speedrun is going to be stacking up high above and then jumping down on it
5:07 More math! 🤓 🧮 🏫
I hope they don't add a damage cap to the mace, if anything they should just make the damage scale a bit less with fall distance (so that you need to fall from higher to deal the same damage)
yep! maybe they could even make it a logarithmic scale, so for example for each +5 damage you'd need to fall twice the amount of blocks or something. But a damage cap would just be boring!
Idk man, being able to one shot literally anything (granted, with some setup (mainly being get high > fall > profit)) is rather overpowered. It shouldn't be nerfed into the ground, maybe a 3-5 max hits to kill a warden, but 1-hit K.O.-ing anything whilst flying around in an elytra with a totem of dying in your offhand incase you mess up doesn't sit well with me in terms of balance. Not entirely an issue for singleplayer, but multiplayer would be terrible
OR
Damage hight reducer multiplys DEPENDING ON HIGHT
@@Hunter20107 Trying to land hits for such high distances is not very practical in the first place though: discounting the fact that the timing would have a decent skill ceiling, things like the Wither can move around quickly, and players can simply look up and use all the time in the world to avoid you. As for Wardens, for one trying to do this in a cave is rather difficult, and killing 1 Warden is completely useless.
Unless someone where to find a glitch to exploit the damage accumulation more often, the only way I can see it being abused is through Elytra MLG or some trolling, but other than that it would be best to use it on short to medium falls
imo they should make it rarer than it already is
Just started playing minecraft at 94, truly amazing game
okay, this is the most wholesome thing I've seen all day.
@@Enderbrine0422this person is not 94, I’ve seen them before on many different Minecraft UA-camrs and they’re lying for clout
@@Bradboss10 oh
This wind charges are perfect for a gun/cannon new item.
They should make it so damage to the mace is also height dependent so it's like more of a cost for more damage to enemies
4:39 triednt momen
I think it should have an enchantment. Like impact or fast falling making the attack radius bigger and descending faster making it only be held by players with fast reflexes
i hope the heavy core and breeze rods have other uses when the update is finished
i just realized the mace is made from breeze parts, therefore making it a mace windu
5:03 Can you do the same with the ender dragon? I'm pretty sure they share the same max damage rules.
2:39 Maces can be enchanted using an anvil with an enchanted book
Source: Tested it myself yesterday
Try in survival, not creative
@@NeedForMotivationn Ah ok, didn't know that makes a difference, ty
I like the sprite for the mace, although I do think it would be neat if it was 2d in the inventory and 3d in the hand, like tridents and spyglasses
Speedrunners are gonna have a field day with this
5:02 I love Feetnix's channel! It's so cool!
Feetnix probably has the best Minecraft content!!!11
First crates, then rocket jumping, now market gardening? It's really cool
Troilder in minecraft
Phoenix, I like your mace way more than the normal texture. Like, WAY more
This was incredible, it just needs a 3D remodel, but I'll probably make a video testing this weapon on my channel
If somehow we can manage to acquire it during speedruns then thats gonna be a lot of fun but the drop chances are quite low
Trolldier in Minecraft
it should be like the trident where the item in the inventory slot/dropped is 2d but the item in your actual hand is 3d
1:29 Warrior Ohio Phoenix 💀 🔥 🐦
The Trident has a 3D model when you hold it.
Nope
@@dementionalpotatoit is, stop spreading misinformation
@@ShadyPaperclipsit's 3d on Bedrock and 2d on Java (I think)
@@imaduck5564nope
@@ShadyPaperclips it is only one pixel wide light every other weapon when held. It is 2D in minecraft terms
It should be like a trident where the 2d model is in the inventory while when you have it in your hand it shows a 3d model
this i will be hunting for it in my world
perhaps the best thing to do would be to give it a sprite for the inventory and actual object, and then make it three dimensional when held
3:38 thats the worst way to say "elytra"
ella-tra