Saying your content doesn't have value is hands down the most crazy thing you've ever said. Every video is an education and an alternate take. I really value these videos!
When it’s information that seems so self evident to him, I could see him thinking “everyone knows this or no one cares..” but his perspective is definitely valuable and not self evident to most ppl. I hope he posts more too
Omm I almost went up to Novo HQ when he said that. Lol seriously though, dude is the most beneficial speaker in the space right now, and yes I was subbed to the Patreon.
No content has financial value anymore… only way to get value from content as a creator is to become an ad board for sponsorships via UA-cam adrev or by getting a sponsor…
devin, your content helped me make streaming my main source of income and i was able to leave an abusive household because of it. it may not have a lot of value to you but it means the world to me. thank you so much for that.
I hope the next video isn't too far away Devin. You are the one and only creator for me on UA-cam who has the most valuable no bs straight to the point content in my opinion. Dont you dare question your value ever again buddy.
I don't like discord communities. They always end up being extremely toxic. Not safe places to be around. Unless its a small discord of a friend, I am outta there. Therefore I wouldn't like to offer people a community I can't manage 100%. What is happening now is that because they can't control the communities, they are enforcing extreme moderation, but not towards toxicity, towards any other type of thing. I am trying to remember a discord server where I didn't run into toxic people. The saddest thing is when mods themselves are toxic. Discord is a very low place of the internet.
26:26 shout out -- Devin your videos are absolutely one of a kind and full of information you can get nowhere else on UA-cam. You have been instrumental in my own UA-cam journey as a creator and I look forward to each and every one of your videos. I thank you so profoundly for your amazing, heartfelt, and well thought out material. Please keep it up when you have the time! You told me to simul-cast long ago and it has been a boon for my streaming. So glad Twitch is getting more on board with this.
Your content is a hidden gem. people return after 2 months because nobody puts out the information you do in the way that you do it. You are an industry exec that has unique experience as an actual creator, making god damn 40 minute notepad breakdowns. Anyone who doesn’t see the value in that isn’t looking.
26:26 Looking good Devin, thanks for the vid. I remember you saying that it didn't matter if someone stayed in a single niche on a youtube channel anymore since recommendations are based off of the "algorithm" aka audience search and history. Is this still accurate or should people stick to a single niche, or connected niches, for each youtube channel?
I respect your opinion Devin, but I really wish you didn't call content creators "dumb" for having opposing thoughts on multi-streaming. There is way better language to use and there are valid concerns against multi-streaming. Being everywhere doesn't completely solve visibility if the content lacks originality and voice. Thanks for your video.
TIME STAMPS 0:00 Introduction 1:10 PART 1: Multi-Streaming and What it Means 2:43 How handle comments when multi-streaming 3:06 Why is multi-streaming better than just Twitch? 3:45 Benefits to multi-streaming on UA-cam/TikTok 4:40 Counter-arguments to multi-streaming 5:17 Summarizing the FAQ 6:43 PART 2: Best Practices for New Streamers 6:51 Should you become a Twitch Affiliate? 7:17 What is the Marketing Funnel? 10:53 Patreon 12:35 Discord 12:55 Twitch 13:24 UA-cam 14:06 Kick 16:00 TikTok 17:08 Multi-Stream Tools 18:08 Combine Chats 18:30 PART 3: Why did Twitch do this? 19:02 Kick’s effect on Twitch 20:05 Kick’s suspected strategy/financial model 21:32 Twitch’s response 22:15 Twitch’s fear 27:01 How to advertise effectively 27:10 How to learn more as a Content Creator? 28:50 PART 4: Important Takeaways 29:05 Twitch New CEO 30:52 Twitch’s new strategy as the best experience 33:53 Recommended mindset as a Creator 35:43 Why Platforms don’t care about you 36:06 Devin gets Excited
I say this with all sincerity. Your content and by extension yourself, comes across as trustworthy. That makes what you provide unique and valuable. Please do not cease making videos. 26:26.
26:26 gang. Your content is the BEST on youtube for this niche BY FAR. You could even branch out into pure marketing/business and be top there. Just because UA-cam algorithm doesn't care to your style of a video doesn't mean it's not the best format to actually learn things. You really are giving us lectures for free here.
I made it to the 26:26 (and BEYOND). As someone that is hoping to start doing some content really soon, this is great news! And your insight on this happening really seals the deal on multi-streaming (something I was always for).
Hey Devin, just want to let you know that I feel you about doubting the value your own content provides, as I’m currently going through this myself and am thus currently on haitus to focus on grad school. I also want to let you know that your content has been incredibly helpful in giving me a uniquely insightful perspective on content creation, esports, and marketing - one that I have yet to find anywhere else. Sincerely hope you can rekindle your confidence in your content. Best wishes.
Your content has always been valuable and I look forward to the uploads. I never would have thought in the slightest that your videos were not valuable. I enjoy getting my marketing news from you and don’t even know who would be second place.
26:26 Was looking forward to this commentary when this news dropped! Always enjoy listening to your takes on the business happenings of the streaming world whether you know exactly what's going on or making your well educated guesses. Always golden!
Dude your content is one of the best for learning business and general marketing. It's the contrarian and unique point of view that you have that is your USP which is why I watch you. Don't stop please.
Literally saw there was a new Devin Nash video before I went to sleep and was like "Naw this is premium. I gotta save Devin for when I'm fresh." Been loving the content for 3-4 years, always a treat to see a new video and find myself going back to watch old videos. Don't get yourself down! Your content is a tremendous value!
tbh, those guidelines say three things. 1. Downgrade your other streams quality to Twitchs level. (Twitch offering the lowest officially supported bitrates of all platforms i know) 2. Dont do ANYTHING that might lead people from Twitch to other platforms. (Super vaguely worded, but sounds to me that this includes everything from links in your Carrd/Linktree to even just showing in your stream that you are streaming on UA-cam, Kick etc. incl. Banners, Alerts and combined chat) 3. You are not allowed to use any multistreaming tools and things like banned combined chat will make the experience on other sites worse (no interaction, no alerts etc.), incentivizing viewers to move over to your Twitch stream again. What this is meant to do is to make people broadcast their Twitch streams to other platforms, practically transforming them into an constant ad for Twitch on the sites of their competition. I do also think (like Devin) that there is no way to enforce that and as it seems on SocialMedia and Co. - nobody even realized that those new guidelines exist, because every news title just screams "multistreaming on Twitch allowed" and even big creators will do it, without caring about the restrictions. BUT i think this leaves an incredibly bitter taste in my mouth if we think about what they were trying to achieve here and looking on how they tried to sell that. Now their incredibly dishonest Pr about that, shot them into their own feet, bc everybody ignores the guidelines.
I agree with you, every time I bring up those restrictions on multi-streaming everyone goes, "Yeah but it doesn't matter because they can't enforce it" So? It's Twitch's attitude towards their creators that's the problem. Though I do think they're getting a bit better.
@@RebeccaEmcee tbh Twitch did one shitty move after another over the past years and it pains me to see how everyone is giving them Ws like its candy. Even this change does not look to me like it was actually meant to benefit the streamers, but just the platform. And i think everybody who believes that Twitch gets better or suddenly starts to care about their streamers, might get a wake up call very soon. imo they have to officially support 8Mbit without strings attached, add AV1 encoder support asap and stop enforcing their guidelines in such an arbitrary way. (Thats also why i was complaining about the vague wording of the new guidelines)
@@CallMeTeci I'm with you, everyone always thinks I'm just being negative for the sake of being negative or I'm a "UA-cam fangirl" or something. I left Twitch about two years ago to stream on UA-cam and everyone thought I was crazy. Since then, I've been very vocal about how Twitch isn't good for creators, so people think I'm just going to be negative no matter what. I have people arguing with me and going to ANY lengths to defend Twitch. But the thing is, they've been so bad that any move they do, like you said, everyone just goes "OMG TWITCH W!" And it is for their platform, they don't really do anything for the streamers, although I think this does benefit streamers a bit more than they used to. I don't like how Twitch says stuff like, "You can't merge chats to ensure your Twitch community has the full experience of your livestream," that's just stuff to try to make themselves look better. While I think it is better than what it was, the bar was already really low. Like I'm still not gonna multi-stream to Twitch because I just don't believe in giving them power.
@@RebeccaEmcee I agree. tho i would still use Twitch - there is no reason to not use them for your own gains and they are still the most popular streaming platform. Consumers are lazy (me included tbh) and diversification is important. Thats why i multistream to four platforms, no matter the guidelines and viewers can choose which platform they prefer.
@@CallMeTeci Yeah, objectively I totally see why using Twitch is still beneficial but personally, I'm just a really unforgiving person and Twitch has gone past the redemption point for me. Just feels wrong for me to stream on Twitch.
2626! Devin as creator i can't say enough how helpful your videos are too me. My entire day stops whenever a new Devin Nash video comes out just to learn and edcate myself on what is next in this space. Your info is incredibly valuable so please know that we appreciate these talks you do so much! Honestly no one does it better 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿.
Your content is valuable Devin, when I had to write an essay on good speakers I pointed to your channel and videos! Without any effects, games, or video that UA-camrs typically NEED to be worth watching, you capture an audience with your profound knowledge and speaking ability. A lot of us are simply loyal Devin fans who watch because we trust that you will make the video interesting. But it is our bad for not showing enough love, as I've watched almost every video over the past two years and haven't commented at all. Most times I'd rather move on to the next video, so enjoy this message as even if I don't comment again... I'll still be watching and enjoying your videos, 26:26.
For what it's worth your videos are a lot like marketing lectures I've been in. You ARE teaching marketing and have a large bulk of experience that equates you of similar value to some professor. UA-cam is going to be my top of funnel(1440p gaming streams/videos, 1080p shorts), shorts going to TikTok/Twitter and eventually a members discord down the line. Your videos provided a lot of information and insight to help me finally make the decision to do UA-cam. I'm trying to gauge how useful it would be to multi-stream to Twitch. Not sure my computer would handle a 1080p/720p stream on top of me doing 1440p high bitrate streams with the games high quality settings(with recording 1440p on the side). So far I like my system and am more than satisfied with the organic views considering the kinds of games I'm playing. Also 26:26 , I'm one of those 90+% viewer duration viewers :D
26:26 dude devon your content is PURE its not biased or opinionated... sure its not " entertainment " but what you provide doesnt have to be entertaining because its super valuble... i often view your content and how much you produce more as " what is needed to be said " vs " ive got to say something just to say something and stay 'relevant' " .... your content is about the numbers and how things ACTUALLY are vs how people want them to be... keep doing you Devon !!! this simulcasting news is huge im gonna be live everywehere now !!!! :D :D :D :D
Awesome video as always Devin! 26:26 I have loved mutistreaming for the longest time. Found that it is nice for everyone who wants to live on the different platforms, but still wants to see my stuff. Also it is great to see you as enthusiastic about this too! Makes the video that much more fun.
Devin your content is inspiring and helps alot of folks, I always look forward to your analysis when it comes to streaming and the content creation atmosphere. please don't ever put yourself down or your content
My bother.!! your content is SOOO valuable.!! I can't even fathom someone saying that about your stuff.! My dude out here teaching whole ass business classes.!!
26:26 crew here. Thank you so much for your content! It's super informative, motivating, and entertaining. You have a whole crew of people here on YT who look forward to your uploads and get so much value from them. Be encouraged and keep it up! 💪🏻 And it's okay to go goblin mode on a game sometimes 😂
Your content absolutely has value. I may not always agree with what you're saying but I always respect you. You know more about what you're talking about than most people on social media.
Enjoyed the video. Very insightful take on it. I feel like I saw a lot of content that said this is a big W, but not WHY it's a big W. Great to hear a good deep dive into it, and 26:26
26.26 🙏🏾Looks like Twitch is HOPEFULLY getting the point. Multistreaming is like the best way for NEW streamers to grow an audience. For a long time, new streams try to grind endlessly to affiliate on Twitch then get locked in not knowing that UA-cam or others may have given them a huge boost in viewship. Let's hope Twitch becomes more of a opportunity for new creators in the space 🙏🏾
26:26 It amazes me you question how good your content is. I'm not a content creator, but find the industry/tech to be interesting and your perspective and presentation style is always informative and interesting.
Devin your content has always been the craziest most insightful stuff on here. The ludwig interview I go back to multiple times a year and I don’t even stream anymore!! The only thing you’re missing is playing the short form clip from long form games. You’ll see huge growth if you fire up that machine trust
First time I saw you was the first day you went on Trainwrecks podcast many years ago, always appreciated what you said and what you brought to the table. Your videos are valuable, even for people that are not yet streaming.
I'm about halfway through so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but one big benefit of skipping affiliate on Twitch is that your viewers don't get ads. I watch someone who streams to 500 on UA-cam and 350 on Twitch. He monetized only on UA-cam and holds membership streams there. Viewers can watch ad-free on Twitch if they prefer that chat interface, and then he has the benefit of the of raiding through Twitch at the end.
This is the first video in a while that I've seen but glad it popped up. Please keep making videos man always super informative and interesting. PS. I like that you are copy/pasting notes instead of typing them, makes the video flow a lot better
26:26 i really enjoy your videos as they are really insightful. i understand how you feel but do know me and I'm sure a lot of others value what you put out.
I'm not a creator, but I watch your videos so I can understand the options better and help my friends or the people who I watch where I can. Great video. 26:26
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When it's content like this, then you are THE go to place for me. Great value delivered in an easy to understand way without clickbait or running circles around the value of the video for retention sake :)
Love the video as always. I'd watch a Devin Nash video daily (well I kinda do already on Patreon) but I'd watch here too! Thank you for your insight. BTW 26:26
I went to an AMA panel at twitchcon with Dan Clancy and was honestly impressed with how he answered both simple and complex questions frankly and with a ton of nuance. Felt like I was watching a Devin Nash video (at least a little)
Thanks for all of your content over the years Devin, I've ben watching for several years before i even had the ability to make content and you're my favorite youtuber relating to improving your own streams and just understanding the industry more. Also have loved all your chats with Destiny haha
I'm actually glad they finally did means I can stream all sites I want without no issues anymore which is nice. Exclusivity should of been removed a long time ago but that's just what I think
I've been multistreaming to UA-cam, Twitch, TikTok and now Kick for the last year + . TikTok has been the most beneficial for all streams and most of the time has the most viewed. It's gotta be vertical though. A lot of the time conversations from 1 platform can drive or start a conversation on another too. Best decision I've ever made was start multistreaming.
26:26 🌭Do you know how often I check the side of your name on my subscriber list hoping for a little blue dot that shows you have a new video?! I was ecstatic today! To hear you say your content might not be valuable is fugging MADNESS. I'm not one to write many comments but I'm rage-writing now because I had to come here and yell at you for speaking such blasphemy. I was a Patron for awhile but I'm poor now, sadge. But as soon as I get dat bag I'll be back!! Your content is SO incredibly valuable; your community is loyal and engaged for a reason. So quit the Imposter Syndrome and own the role of our TwitchDaddy, that we all look forward to hearing your educational and entertaining takes. Peace, love, and hot dog flavored water 🧡
I've been multi-streaming for years and handling multiple chats is not that hard... but make sure you have enough moderators :they really, really help.
Another amazing video man. I've been multi streaming for over a year now I can honestly say it's the best. also feel a bit weird going back to Twitch Affiliate when ive been so against it in almost every video haha
While marketing in the livestreaming space might be for a niche audience, your videos are definitely a valuable resource. I've been following Twitch since the beginning and other forms of live media way before that and I always learn something new from these videos!
26.26 got to you from alok i am 28 studying applied psychiatry and think you are the 2nd best content creator after alok Gaming is nice for entertainment and all love cohh asmon and co but this shit is real and important for MANY people. love your message of free speech and learning. keep at it at your pace you dont have to prove yourself to anyone
this type of professional level content on new industries (streaming is still a new industry, influencer etc) I find very useful and interesting, and I'm in a totally different sector, still I get gems from this I can use. I really like understanding different business models how they work. Really not much content like this getting made, the majority of it is from the angle of 'let's talk about this online scam'. You come from it inside on the decisions needed to make these careers work, I guess there are blogs out there doing this... keep at it. It has longer term value too, as a document of changes in an industry.
26:26 dude you saying that your content is not valuable is insane to me. In a way, I am happy to see even people of your caliber have imposter syndrome it makes me feel better about myself. Recently, I watched a video of Sean Gares interviewing Bryce Blum regarding his article on the Esports Reckoning, I would love to hear your take on that subject (I watched your appearance on Montecristo's podcast, loved it.)
As a content creator who manages my own brand, your videos are THE MOST VALUABLE videos for me on the platform. I tell every one of my peers who is serious about their career in content creation to watch your stuff. God bless you, man. Don't listen to those intrusive thoughts.
Devin, I meticulously follow and glean insights from every single one of your videos, which without a doubt, are all brimming with value. They are incredibly informative and serve as a fantastic resource for individuals venturing into streaming/content creation, as well as for those who have been immersed in it for some time. Truly, there's a wealth of knowledge to be discovered for everyone.
Good news! I am mainly on YT and was really interested in streaming and dedicated myself to Twitch for a while. I started multistreaming earlier this year and it's been a lot of fun, despite the issues with the platform, I do like Twitch and this is a good step for them. I was worried about getting banned but am too small for it to be on the radar so I'm happy they went ahead with this!
.... twitch discoverability is far greater than youtube as far as streaming goes.... youtube streams are basically invisible to anyone who isn't already following you and even then they need to be looking for your stream
A huge benefit of simulcasting that I have not seen mentioned is more potential to be raided. e.g. If you never stream on UA-cam you could never be raided by a UA-cam streamer. I don't know the true value of being raided, but at least anecdotally I have followed a few creators from it.
Oh this is HUGE! A raid from a big streamer on Facebook Gaming (of all places lol) is what got me on the map there. Was multi-streaming to Twitch and UA-cam with like 1 or 2 views before that. This happened back in 2020 btw, but very good point!
Devin your knowledge and presentation skills are top of the tree - thanks so much for the brilliant sharing. As someone who does all the backroom management and tech stuff for Venusworld on Twitch, where we have worked for over 5 years building up one of the warmest and most positive communities around, this is music to my ears (excuse the pun). Will be referring back often!
2626 is amateur watch time. Dont ever say your content isnt valuable. I never miss a video. Your content is the reason ive had any success in the overstaurated gaming space. Thank you.
Devin please stop doubting yourself. You may not know this but the takes you have use a logic that is not very common. You take time to look into all perspectives or at least be informed on them. This is immensely valuable.
Love you Devin. Your stuff may not be what the average (dummy) zoomer likes to watch, so you're not 30 million views or whatever; but for smarter more patient and 'good' people it's A+. Which is honestly one of the best quality videos one can watch
Saying your content doesn't have value is hands down the most crazy thing you've ever said. Every video is an education and an alternate take. I really value these videos!
FR that was wild lol .. been waiting on a DN vid forever
100% agree. I don't miss a single video and there's no better content than this. No time waste and always authentic
When it’s information that seems so self evident to him, I could see him thinking “everyone knows this or no one cares..” but his perspective is definitely valuable and not self evident to most ppl. I hope he posts more too
Omm I almost went up to Novo HQ when he said that. Lol seriously though, dude is the most beneficial speaker in the space right now, and yes I was subbed to the Patreon.
No content has financial value anymore… only way to get value from content as a creator is to become an ad board for sponsorships via UA-cam adrev or by getting a sponsor…
devin, your content helped me make streaming my main source of income and i was able to leave an abusive household because of it. it may not have a lot of value to you but it means the world to me. thank you so much for that.
I hope the next video isn't too far away Devin. You are the one and only creator for me on UA-cam who has the most valuable no bs straight to the point content in my opinion. Dont you dare question your value ever again buddy.
I don't like discord communities. They always end up being extremely toxic. Not safe places to be around. Unless its a small discord of a friend, I am outta there. Therefore I wouldn't like to offer people a community I can't manage 100%. What is happening now is that because they can't control the communities, they are enforcing extreme moderation, but not towards toxicity, towards any other type of thing. I am trying to remember a discord server where I didn't run into toxic people. The saddest thing is when mods themselves are toxic. Discord is a very low place of the internet.
26:26 shout out -- Devin your videos are absolutely one of a kind and full of information you can get nowhere else on UA-cam. You have been instrumental in my own UA-cam journey as a creator and I look forward to each and every one of your videos. I thank you so profoundly for your amazing, heartfelt, and well thought out material. Please keep it up when you have the time! You told me to simul-cast long ago and it has been a boon for my streaming. So glad Twitch is getting more on board with this.
Your content is a hidden gem. people return after 2 months because nobody puts out the information you do in the way that you do it. You are an industry exec that has unique experience as an actual creator, making god damn 40 minute notepad breakdowns. Anyone who doesn’t see the value in that isn’t looking.
26:26 Looking good Devin, thanks for the vid.
I remember you saying that it didn't matter if someone stayed in a single niche on a youtube channel anymore since recommendations are based off of the "algorithm" aka audience search and history. Is this still accurate or should people stick to a single niche, or connected niches, for each youtube channel?
I respect your opinion Devin, but I really wish you didn't call content creators "dumb" for having opposing thoughts on multi-streaming. There is way better language to use and there are valid concerns against multi-streaming. Being everywhere doesn't completely solve visibility if the content lacks originality and voice. Thanks for your video.
TIME STAMPS
0:00 Introduction
1:10 PART 1: Multi-Streaming and What it Means
2:43 How handle comments when multi-streaming
3:06 Why is multi-streaming better than just Twitch?
3:45 Benefits to multi-streaming on UA-cam/TikTok
4:40 Counter-arguments to multi-streaming
5:17 Summarizing the FAQ
6:43 PART 2: Best Practices for New Streamers
6:51 Should you become a Twitch Affiliate?
7:17 What is the Marketing Funnel?
10:53 Patreon
12:35 Discord
12:55 Twitch
13:24 UA-cam
14:06 Kick
16:00 TikTok
17:08 Multi-Stream Tools
18:08 Combine Chats
18:30 PART 3: Why did Twitch do this?
19:02 Kick’s effect on Twitch
20:05 Kick’s suspected strategy/financial model
21:32 Twitch’s response
22:15 Twitch’s fear
27:01 How to advertise effectively
27:10 How to learn more as a Content Creator?
28:50 PART 4: Important Takeaways
29:05 Twitch New CEO
30:52 Twitch’s new strategy as the best experience
33:53 Recommended mindset as a Creator
35:43 Why Platforms don’t care about you
36:06 Devin gets Excited
but no 26:26....
@@Uberzombiemojo they gotta earn it bro. :^)
I say this with all sincerity. Your content and by extension yourself, comes across as trustworthy. That makes what you provide unique and valuable. Please do not cease making videos. 26:26.
26:26 obicham te hon :>
26:26 gang, your social media and marketing content is the best on youtube Devin don't stop making videos for fear of the quality, keep it up!
Twitch is realizing gatekeeping streamers was not a good business plan and had no choice but to fold.
26:26 - great video as always Devin. Cheers legend
26:26 gang. Your content is the BEST on youtube for this niche BY FAR. You could even branch out into pure marketing/business and be top there. Just because UA-cam algorithm doesn't care to your style of a video doesn't mean it's not the best format to actually learn things. You really are giving us lectures for free here.
I made it to the 26:26 (and BEYOND). As someone that is hoping to start doing some content really soon, this is great news! And your insight on this happening really seals the deal on multi-streaming (something I was always for).
I've been waiting for this one lol😅 The second I heard Dan say it I immediately thought "Devin's gonna love this one".
Hey Devin, just want to let you know that I feel you about doubting the value your own content provides, as I’m currently going through this myself and am thus currently on haitus to focus on grad school. I also want to let you know that your content has been incredibly helpful in giving me a uniquely insightful perspective on content creation, esports, and marketing - one that I have yet to find anywhere else. Sincerely hope you can rekindle your confidence in your content. Best wishes.
26:26 Devin. Every time something major happens I check my sub feed for your take. Please keep making videos 🙏
26:26, always watch all the way through, so informative and objective. Much love brother!
Your content has always been valuable and I look forward to the uploads.
I never would have thought in the slightest that your videos were not valuable. I enjoy getting my marketing news from you and don’t even know who would be second place.
26:26 Was looking forward to this commentary when this news dropped! Always enjoy listening to your takes on the business happenings of the streaming world whether you know exactly what's going on or making your well educated guesses. Always golden!
Your videos have TONS of value. Your insights are so valuable and I’ve learned a lot from this channel. Thank you!!
Dude your content is one of the best for learning business and general marketing. It's the contrarian and unique point of view that you have that is your USP which is why I watch you. Don't stop please.
Literally saw there was a new Devin Nash video before I went to sleep and was like "Naw this is premium. I gotta save Devin for when I'm fresh." Been loving the content for 3-4 years, always a treat to see a new video and find myself going back to watch old videos. Don't get yourself down! Your content is a tremendous value!
tbh, those guidelines say three things.
1. Downgrade your other streams quality to Twitchs level. (Twitch offering the lowest officially supported bitrates of all platforms i know)
2. Dont do ANYTHING that might lead people from Twitch to other platforms. (Super vaguely worded, but sounds to me that this includes everything from links in your Carrd/Linktree to even just showing in your stream that you are streaming on UA-cam, Kick etc. incl. Banners, Alerts and combined chat)
3. You are not allowed to use any multistreaming tools and things like banned combined chat will make the experience on other sites worse (no interaction, no alerts etc.), incentivizing viewers to move over to your Twitch stream again.
What this is meant to do is to make people broadcast their Twitch streams to other platforms, practically transforming them into an constant ad for Twitch on the sites of their competition.
I do also think (like Devin) that there is no way to enforce that and as it seems on SocialMedia and Co. - nobody even realized that those new guidelines exist, because every news title just screams "multistreaming on Twitch allowed" and even big creators will do it, without caring about the restrictions.
BUT i think this leaves an incredibly bitter taste in my mouth if we think about what they were trying to achieve here and looking on how they tried to sell that. Now their incredibly dishonest Pr about that, shot them into their own feet, bc everybody ignores the guidelines.
I agree with you, every time I bring up those restrictions on multi-streaming everyone goes, "Yeah but it doesn't matter because they can't enforce it"
So? It's Twitch's attitude towards their creators that's the problem. Though I do think they're getting a bit better.
@@RebeccaEmcee tbh Twitch did one shitty move after another over the past years and it pains me to see how everyone is giving them Ws like its candy. Even this change does not look to me like it was actually meant to benefit the streamers, but just the platform.
And i think everybody who believes that Twitch gets better or suddenly starts to care about their streamers, might get a wake up call very soon.
imo they have to officially support 8Mbit without strings attached, add AV1 encoder support asap and stop enforcing their guidelines in such an arbitrary way. (Thats also why i was complaining about the vague wording of the new guidelines)
@@CallMeTeci I'm with you, everyone always thinks I'm just being negative for the sake of being negative or I'm a "UA-cam fangirl" or something. I left Twitch about two years ago to stream on UA-cam and everyone thought I was crazy. Since then, I've been very vocal about how Twitch isn't good for creators, so people think I'm just going to be negative no matter what. I have people arguing with me and going to ANY lengths to defend Twitch.
But the thing is, they've been so bad that any move they do, like you said, everyone just goes "OMG TWITCH W!" And it is for their platform, they don't really do anything for the streamers, although I think this does benefit streamers a bit more than they used to. I don't like how Twitch says stuff like, "You can't merge chats to ensure your Twitch community has the full experience of your livestream," that's just stuff to try to make themselves look better.
While I think it is better than what it was, the bar was already really low. Like I'm still not gonna multi-stream to Twitch because I just don't believe in giving them power.
@@RebeccaEmcee I agree. tho i would still use Twitch - there is no reason to not use them for your own gains and they are still the most popular streaming platform. Consumers are lazy (me included tbh) and diversification is important. Thats why i multistream to four platforms, no matter the guidelines and viewers can choose which platform they prefer.
@@CallMeTeci Yeah, objectively I totally see why using Twitch is still beneficial but personally, I'm just a really unforgiving person and Twitch has gone past the redemption point for me. Just feels wrong for me to stream on Twitch.
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Devin as creator i can't say enough how helpful your videos are too me.
My entire day stops whenever a new Devin Nash video comes out just to learn and edcate myself on what is next in this space.
Your info is incredibly valuable so please know that we appreciate these talks you do so much! Honestly no one does it better 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿.
Your content is valuable Devin, when I had to write an essay on good speakers I pointed to your channel and videos! Without any effects, games, or video that UA-camrs typically NEED to be worth watching, you capture an audience with your profound knowledge and speaking ability. A lot of us are simply loyal Devin fans who watch because we trust that you will make the video interesting.
But it is our bad for not showing enough love, as I've watched almost every video over the past two years and haven't commented at all. Most times I'd rather move on to the next video, so enjoy this message as even if I don't comment again... I'll still be watching and enjoying your videos, 26:26.
26:26 brother the content is keeping me from failing marketing class.
For what it's worth your videos are a lot like marketing lectures I've been in. You ARE teaching marketing and have a large bulk of experience that equates you of similar value to some professor. UA-cam is going to be my top of funnel(1440p gaming streams/videos, 1080p shorts), shorts going to TikTok/Twitter and eventually a members discord down the line. Your videos provided a lot of information and insight to help me finally make the decision to do UA-cam. I'm trying to gauge how useful it would be to multi-stream to Twitch. Not sure my computer would handle a 1080p/720p stream on top of me doing 1440p high bitrate streams with the games high quality settings(with recording 1440p on the side).
So far I like my system and am more than satisfied with the organic views considering the kinds of games I'm playing. Also 26:26 , I'm one of those 90+% viewer duration viewers :D
Thanks again for the great video Devin! 26:26 call out right here!
26:26 dude devon your content is PURE its not biased or opinionated... sure its not " entertainment " but what you provide doesnt have to be entertaining because its super valuble... i often view your content and how much you produce more as " what is needed to be said " vs " ive got to say something just to say something and stay 'relevant' " .... your content is about the numbers and how things ACTUALLY are vs how people want them to be... keep doing you Devon !!! this simulcasting news is huge im gonna be live everywehere now !!!! :D :D :D :D
Awesome video as always Devin! 26:26 I have loved mutistreaming for the longest time. Found that it is nice for everyone who wants to live on the different platforms, but still wants to see my stuff. Also it is great to see you as enthusiastic about this too! Makes the video that much more fun.
Didn't know you watched Devin. Small world. :D
I love these videos, thanks so much for posting them
Devin your content is inspiring and helps alot of folks, I always look forward to your analysis when it comes to streaming and the content creation atmosphere. please don't ever put yourself down or your content
My bother.!! your content is SOOO valuable.!! I can't even fathom someone saying that about your stuff.! My dude out here teaching whole ass business classes.!!
26:26 crew here. Thank you so much for your content! It's super informative, motivating, and entertaining. You have a whole crew of people here on YT who look forward to your uploads and get so much value from them. Be encouraged and keep it up! 💪🏻
And it's okay to go goblin mode on a game sometimes 😂
I appreciate and enjoy your videos and basically watch all of them to the end every time. Just so you know!
Let's go!!! This was the exact video I was waiting for since the announcement.
26:26 here! I don't even have a reason to watch this, but it's really interesting to hear what you say about everything.
Your content absolutely has value. I may not always agree with what you're saying but I always respect you. You know more about what you're talking about than most people on social media.
Enjoyed the video. Very insightful take on it. I feel like I saw a lot of content that said this is a big W, but not WHY it's a big W. Great to hear a good deep dive into it, and 26:26
26.26 🙏🏾Looks like Twitch is HOPEFULLY getting the point. Multistreaming is like the best way for NEW streamers to grow an audience. For a long time, new streams try to grind endlessly to affiliate on Twitch then get locked in not knowing that UA-cam or others may have given them a huge boost in viewship. Let's hope Twitch becomes more of a opportunity for new creators in the space 🙏🏾
26:26 It amazes me you question how good your content is. I'm not a content creator, but find the industry/tech to be interesting and your perspective and presentation style is always informative and interesting.
Been waiting for this video, its been a long time coming.
Devin your content has always been the craziest most insightful stuff on here. The ludwig interview I go back to multiple times a year and I don’t even stream anymore!!
The only thing you’re missing is playing the short form clip from long form games. You’ll see huge growth if you fire up that machine trust
First time I saw you was the first day you went on Trainwrecks podcast many years ago, always appreciated what you said and what you brought to the table.
Your videos are valuable, even for people that are not yet streaming.
I'm about halfway through so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but one big benefit of skipping affiliate on Twitch is that your viewers don't get ads. I watch someone who streams to 500 on UA-cam and 350 on Twitch. He monetized only on UA-cam and holds membership streams there. Viewers can watch ad-free on Twitch if they prefer that chat interface, and then he has the benefit of the of raiding through Twitch at the end.
This is the first video in a while that I've seen but glad it popped up. Please keep making videos man always super informative and interesting. PS. I like that you are copy/pasting notes instead of typing them, makes the video flow a lot better
26:26 All in on your videos, as always. Your content is invaluable and entertaining. I look forward to it.
We love your uploads devin!! 26:26 don’t stop!!
26:26 i really enjoy your videos as they are really insightful. i understand how you feel but do know me and I'm sure a lot of others value what you put out.
26:26 echoing what a lot of people are saying, but you content is one of the most sensible takes on how to build a business from content creation.
Grerat insights into this massive change up at Twitch! Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this. 26:26
I'm not a creator, but I watch your videos so I can understand the options better and help my friends or the people who I watch where I can. Great video. 26:26
When it's content like this, then you are THE go to place for me. Great value delivered in an easy to understand way without clickbait or running circles around the value of the video for retention sake :)
Love the video as always. I'd watch a Devin Nash video daily (well I kinda do already on Patreon) but I'd watch here too! Thank you for your insight. BTW 26:26
I went to an AMA panel at twitchcon with Dan Clancy and was honestly impressed with how he answered both simple and complex questions frankly and with a ton of nuance. Felt like I was watching a Devin Nash video (at least a little)
Finally! Was waiting for you to drop this.
26:26 secret call out! Another great video!
Thanks for all of your content over the years Devin, I've ben watching for several years before i even had the ability to make content and you're my favorite youtuber relating to improving your own streams and just understanding the industry more. Also have loved all your chats with Destiny haha
It's been a while, since the last time I watched one of your deep dives, but 26:26. Thanks for the always informative content!
I'm actually glad they finally did means I can stream all sites I want without no issues anymore which is nice. Exclusivity should of been removed a long time ago but that's just what I think
I've been multistreaming to UA-cam, Twitch, TikTok and now Kick for the last year + . TikTok has been the most beneficial for all streams and most of the time has the most viewed. It's gotta be vertical though. A lot of the time conversations from 1 platform can drive or start a conversation on another too. Best decision I've ever made was start multistreaming.
Your content is amazing and has a ton of value. I'm always excited to watch when I see a new video posted. Oh yea... 26:26
Of course 26:26, every time. Great stuff again, missed you on YT!
26:26 🌭Do you know how often I check the side of your name on my subscriber list hoping for a little blue dot that shows you have a new video?! I was ecstatic today! To hear you say your content might not be valuable is fugging MADNESS. I'm not one to write many comments but I'm rage-writing now because I had to come here and yell at you for speaking such blasphemy. I was a Patron for awhile but I'm poor now, sadge. But as soon as I get dat bag I'll be back!! Your content is SO incredibly valuable; your community is loyal and engaged for a reason. So quit the Imposter Syndrome and own the role of our TwitchDaddy, that we all look forward to hearing your educational and entertaining takes. Peace, love, and hot dog flavored water 🧡
I've been multi-streaming for years and handling multiple chats is not that hard... but make sure you have enough moderators :they really, really help.
18:45 I was SOOO READY for the secret callout too...
26:26 Still watching and really enjoying your content Devin. I'm glad that Twitch have made these changes, it's about time.
Another amazing video man. I've been multi streaming for over a year now I can honestly say it's the best. also feel a bit weird going back to Twitch Affiliate when ive been so against it in almost every video haha
While marketing in the livestreaming space might be for a niche audience, your videos are definitely a valuable resource. I've been following Twitch since the beginning and other forms of live media way before that and I always learn something new from these videos!
I have been waiting for this video to come out, thank you for putting the twitch news into a very digestible format, much love.
Thx Homie! 26:26 I learn alot from your vids.
Great video. I like that I knew almost everything you were going to say because I watch all the videos
26.26 got to you from alok i am 28 studying applied psychiatry and think you are the 2nd best content creator after alok
Gaming is nice for entertainment and all love cohh asmon and co but this shit is real and important for MANY people. love your message of free speech and learning. keep at it at your pace you dont have to prove yourself to anyone
Gansta 2626 crew! Also your comments about Clancy spot on. He was everywhere during TC and was a constant social presence. Lastly, your YTs are great!
this type of professional level content on new industries (streaming is still a new industry, influencer etc) I find very useful and interesting, and I'm in a totally different sector, still I get gems from this I can use. I really like understanding different business models how they work. Really not much content like this getting made, the majority of it is from the angle of 'let's talk about this online scam'. You come from it inside on the decisions needed to make these careers work, I guess there are blogs out there doing this... keep at it. It has longer term value too, as a document of changes in an industry.
26:26 dude you saying that your content is not valuable is insane to me. In a way, I am happy to see even people of your caliber have imposter syndrome it makes me feel better about myself. Recently, I watched a video of Sean Gares interviewing Bryce Blum regarding his article on the Esports Reckoning, I would love to hear your take on that subject (I watched your appearance on Montecristo's podcast, loved it.)
As a content creator who manages my own brand, your videos are THE MOST VALUABLE videos for me on the platform. I tell every one of my peers who is serious about their career in content creation to watch your stuff. God bless you, man. Don't listen to those intrusive thoughts.
Always appreciate your insight, thanks for this.
26:26 gang gang
Devin's videos save my day, thanks for the knowledge!
Devin, I meticulously follow and glean insights from every single one of your videos, which without a doubt, are all brimming with value. They are incredibly informative and serve as a fantastic resource for individuals venturing into streaming/content creation, as well as for those who have been immersed in it for some time. Truly, there's a wealth of knowledge to be discovered for everyone.
Thanks so much for this video as it was very informative. I've multi streamed for a bit before stopping, but now I'm eager to resume.
Ive learned more about streaming from you than i have anywhere else. Please keep going. Your community needs you
Good news! I am mainly on YT and was really interested in streaming and dedicated myself to Twitch for a while. I started multistreaming earlier this year and it's been a lot of fun, despite the issues with the platform, I do like Twitch and this is a good step for them. I was worried about getting banned but am too small for it to be on the radar so I'm happy they went ahead with this!
Yeah def should post more videos. Always enjoyed the insights and industry views.
26:26 in here! Great content Devin!
26.26 xD I am no influencer but I do enjoy a nice Devin Nash video. I learn a lot of things xD thanks
.... twitch discoverability is far greater than youtube as far as streaming goes.... youtube streams are basically invisible to anyone who isn't already following you and even then they need to be looking for your stream
Yeah for UA-cam Shorts are the best way at the moment
Your videos are super informative, Devin. For me, if you're making a video about a topic, then I know it's important. Keep up the great work, bro.
A huge benefit of simulcasting that I have not seen mentioned is more potential to be raided. e.g. If you never stream on UA-cam you could never be raided by a UA-cam streamer. I don't know the true value of being raided, but at least anecdotally I have followed a few creators from it.
Oh this is HUGE! A raid from a big streamer on Facebook Gaming (of all places lol) is what got me on the map there. Was multi-streaming to Twitch and UA-cam with like 1 or 2 views before that. This happened back in 2020 btw, but very good point!
@@DatSamurai That's awesome! I hope to see more opportunities like this in the future!
We definitely need more of your uploads. Indeed valuable content, which kept me on the track. Thank you!
26:26 🙂 First time feeling positive for Twitch in years too tbh
Devin your knowledge and presentation skills are top of the tree - thanks so much for the brilliant sharing. As someone who does all the backroom management and tech stuff for Venusworld on Twitch, where we have worked for over 5 years building up one of the warmest and most positive communities around, this is music to my ears (excuse the pun). Will be referring back often!
2626 is amateur watch time. Dont ever say your content isnt valuable. I never miss a video. Your content is the reason ive had any success in the overstaurated gaming space. Thank you.
26:26 - great video dude!
26:26 fantastic analysis, as always
Thanks for another great video 26:26
I agree these are exciting times for live streaming and content creation
Devin please stop doubting yourself. You may not know this but the takes you have use a logic that is not very common.
You take time to look into all perspectives or at least be informed on them. This is immensely valuable.
Love you Devin. Your stuff may not be what the average (dummy) zoomer likes to watch, so you're not 30 million views or whatever; but for smarter more patient and 'good' people it's A+. Which is honestly one of the best quality videos one can watch